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The 'Xir
09-06-2005, 03:01 PM
In the immortal words of Han Solo, "I have an Idea".

I was just discussing some of my pet peeves with EpIII and the PT as a whole in another thread when I realized that there is an outlet(and a much needed one) in EpIII that could allow for a sequel trilogy! There is also a very natural progession or course/guideline for the story to follow that gives creedence as to why EP 7,8,9 have to be created! Ya see, as I was arguing in the other thread, Amidala is the protaganist in TPM and the PT much as Luke was for ANH and the OT, and Obviously as Anakin is for the whole Saga! So you have the story of the Mother, the Son, and overall The Father, and the ST should be the story of the daughter! Ok big whoopie you all say we all knew thats what it would be about if it was ever done, however, my Idea is to have Padme survive EPIII in order to clarify some of the lingering questions 'caused by EpII and III's meddelings.
She could be brought back to life simply by the literary tool already establised by her Handmaidens, 'Deception'. It was a handmaiden that was in the casket for all of Naboo to see! Amidala planned it all along with Bail Organa, not even entrusting the Jedi with this knowledge as why the Med droids confirm her death infront of them! Just as Ben lied to protect Luke from certain truths, Padme did as well to protect both children, from Vader and mainly the Emperor,but also protect Leia alone in case the Jedi failed in raising Luke as a Jedi! The Emperor falls for it with his admittence to Vader, "It seems that in your anger, you killed her".
Fastforeward to Ep7-9, it is shown how Leia helps reestablish the Senate, and helps MonMothma become leader of their newly reformed Republic. She also helps Luke reestablish the Jedi Order by increasing her own Jedi skills! She and Han get married and have twins themselves. However their is a great disturbance in the Force and Master Lukes very soul is now tormented by a new but literal Phantom Menace(all of this much in keeping with the new novels and Dark Horse books)
However, how all this can tie into the rest of the saga, is that Leia finally reveals to Luke the truth about their mother, she is alive! She has known ever since the battle of Endor, but withheld the truth, only telling him of her memories of her adoptive mother to keep him focused on saving Vader/Anakin! This would help flesh out Leia's line, "Somehow...I always knew", the somehow was her real Mothers help/assistance, on top of her Force abilities" Why lie about her existence to Luke? Same reason Ben told Luke to "bury your feelings deep" about Leia, except not that they could bemade to serve the Emperor, but instead Vader. If Vader knew Padme was still alive, he would do everything in his power to find her, including let Luke die at the hands of the Emperor! The Emperor would welcome that seeing as how Lukes' lack of vision, would mean the end of the Jedi Order once and for all, and he could maintain Vader as a pawn! However, Leia/Padmes deception has saved the Republic, but now Leia's admission to her brother only comes about because the disturbance Luke has felt; one that Leia has felt as well and has confirmed true, The Spirit of the Emperor has survived and Padme is now Missing. With Anakin now as there guide only together can Luke and Leia save there mother and bring finality to this otherwise swiss cheese of a story! :yes:

Obviously alot would need fleshing out, and I just threw stuff out there about the Emperor based on the new books to keep a threat involved in the storyline, but this is plausible, and would give Lucas another chance to finally get the story right! Whad'ya guys think? Anything important I over looked that could debunk this whole thing? Attack away! :cool:

shammykenobi
09-06-2005, 06:54 PM
That Is The Dumbest Thing I Have Ever Heard!!!!!!!!!

Markimus
09-06-2005, 07:25 PM
think I have to agree

2-1B
09-07-2005, 01:58 AM
I like it better with Padme dead in the casket. :)

seanmcfripp
09-07-2005, 09:42 AM
Do we really want to endure Natalie Portman being in another 3 movies?

Rogue II
09-07-2005, 10:57 AM
Do we really want to endure Natalie Portman being in another 3 movies?

No. The 'Xir appears to have watched one too many daytime soap operas.

JimJamBonds
09-07-2005, 12:08 PM
Ahh I'm going to have to say 'no' to this idea. :yes:

Rocketboy
09-07-2005, 05:27 PM
Do we really want to endure Natalie Portman being in another 3 movies?As long as they aren't more Star Wars movies, yes.

2-1B
09-08-2005, 01:24 AM
Closer part 2
Mathilda: The Professional part 2
and
Garden State 2: Back to New Jersey

I could go for those 3.

seanmcfripp
09-08-2005, 10:03 AM
Closer part 2
Mathilda: The Professional part 2
and
Garden State 2: Back to New Jersey

I could go for those 3.

Closer 2: Yes, if Portman's body double signs on too.:twisted:

The Professional 2: meh...no Leon = weak movie

Garden State 2: I liked the first one, but not sure I want to see the Scrubs dude in another movie. (He wrote and directed it, didn't he?)

2-1B
09-08-2005, 12:32 PM
Yes he did.

Did Nat really have a body double for Closer ? I don't think so, she got pretty randy in her performance because she "trusted" Mike Nichols as the filmmaker. Do you know that for sure ? I'm curious.

For the record, I wasn't serious about any of those 3. :D
(well, maybe Closer 2 ;) They could call it "Still Closer" or "Even Closer")

JimJamBonds
09-08-2005, 01:13 PM
For the record, I wasn't serious about any of those 3. :D
(well, maybe Closer 2 ;) They could call it "Still Closer" or "Even Closer")

I would say the only people that would really have a story to tell in Closer 2 would be Nat and Jude's characters. And at that I'd say more Nat since she seems to be the only 'happy' one at the end. Hey I'd like to see what happened to that crazy hampster home in Garden State II. :yes:

seanmcfripp
09-08-2005, 01:23 PM
Did Nat really have a body double for Closer ? I don't think so, she got pretty randy in her performance because she "trusted" Mike Nichols as the filmmaker. Do you know that for sure ? I'm curious.

I'm pretty sure. Not sure how I know, but I'm certain I've read it in more than one place. Sorry to disappoint!

JimJamBonds
09-08-2005, 01:50 PM
I'm pretty sure. Not sure how I know, but I'm certain I've read it in more than one place. Sorry to disappoint!

I know there was a topless shot of Nat but that didn't make the final cut. :frus:

JediTricks
09-09-2005, 02:15 AM
Nat didn't have a body-double for the film, she did the full frontal nude scenes herself and later asked director Mike Nichols to remove them. I remember reading this on IMDB news last year (I thought it was more recent, looked it up and it was November): http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000204/news

Personally, a topless scene with her could not be much less interesting, I'm sure, she's as developed as a 12-year-old boy.

JimJamBonds
09-09-2005, 02:30 AM
Personally, a topless scene with her could not be much less interesting, I'm sure, she's as developed as a 12-year-old boy.

You haven't seen some of the kids waddling around these days have you JT? Some 12 yr old boys could definitly use a boyssiere. lol

JediTricks
09-09-2005, 02:39 AM
So in essence, you're suggesting that Natalie Portman is less developed than most 12-year-old boys. I can't tell who I feel worse for, her or the 12-year-old boys. ;)

2-1B
09-09-2005, 03:03 AM
That's so shallow JT, I know of tons of beautiful women who are small chested. Shallow. :whip:

But thanks for saying she didn't have a double. :grin:

And for not closing this thread for being off topic. :grin:

seanmcfripp
09-09-2005, 11:08 AM
Nat didn't have a body-double for the film, she did the full frontal nude scenes herself and later asked director Mike Nichols to remove them.

I dunno, I trust my porno sources more than this IMDB you speak of, if there even really is such a thing.:silly: No, I've seen conflicting reports. I remember using that IMDB entry as evidence to the same point you made when I discussed this with someone else. I've since changed my mind. Trust me, the Mr. Skins and other porno type places of the world seem to think it's a double, and I think their shady credibility and questionable morality may actually be useful in giving this thing some merit. Isn't it peculiar how you can't get a clean shot of her face during the scenes in question? I think just by virtue of these porno folks obtaining "deleted sex scenes" and the like, that they are also privvy to the inside information on how they were made as well.

Oh, and btw, I'm not a frequenter of porno sites. Little story...my boss at work knows I'm a SW fan and told me that I just had to Closer, because Natalie Portman had a very revealing scene and I'd like it because she was in it, blah, blah, blah. Well, I thought I'd heard somewhere before about the whole Mike Nichols editing out the scenes, yadayadayada, so I researched it a bit. Well, in the course of the "research", I inevitably came across the usual "celebrities exposed" types of porno sites. Most of those sites seem adamant in their claim that there was, in fact, a double used. I reported my findings, and my boss was quite disappointed.

It's just one of those cheesy urban legends, we'll probably never know one way or the other. What does Natalie Portman's website say?

JimJamBonds
09-09-2005, 12:10 PM
So in essence, you're suggesting that Natalie Portman is less developed than most 12-year-old boys. I can't tell who I feel worse for, her or the 12-year-old boys. ;)

No I'm saying there are LOTS of fat kids out there. :D

Rocketboy
09-09-2005, 12:29 PM
Nat didn't have a body-double for the film, she did the full frontal nude scenes herself and later asked director Mike Nichols to remove them. You are correct, sir. The movie clearly shows her face numerous times in next to nothing. As you watch the film, there aren't many times that a double would have been able to be used.

Personally, a topless scene with her could not be much less interesting, I'm sure, she's as developed as a 12-year-old boy.No quite. You have the internet. Do a search. That's all I have to say. ;)

What does Natalie Portman's website say?She doesn't have one, but fansite Natalieportman.com hasn't ever said they used a double (to my knowledge).

JediTricks
09-10-2005, 04:37 AM
That's so shallow JT, I know of tons of beautiful women who are small chested. Shallow. :whip:That'd make you the shallow one since I made no such judgement about her beauty, only the lack of appeal of her nude chest.


Sure sean... right. :p



No quite. You have the internet. Do a search. That's all I have to say. ;)I remember, I had to ban a forumite for posting topless pictures of her on the beach here in the forums and then delete them so I saw them, it was certainly nothing appealing.


As was pointed out, we've gone far afield in this topic and need to bring it back to home discussion. Besides, the off-topic talk is pushing the boundries so let's curb it before it becomes a problem.


Oh, and after Natalie's performances in Eps 2 and 3, I never want to see her attempt another Star Wars performance again. In terms of acting, she was the one who most let me down from TPM to AOTC, in TPM her performance was one of the few brighter spots for me and I remember her credit at the end grabbing the most applause from the audience on opening day at the Mann Chinese theater, yet the transition from TPM to AOTC was like going from filet mignon to stale bread.

2-1B
09-10-2005, 04:43 AM
That'd make you the shallow one since I made no such judgement about her beauty, only the lack of appeal of her nude chest.


You seem to be implying that I meant beauty in the sense of one's face, when in my experience small chests can be beautiful as they are, not taking into account the chest owner's face. :)

I could be mistaken in your interpretation, though, sorry if I am. :)

Rogue II
09-10-2005, 02:50 PM
Even if they did use The Xir's idea, I hope they would get a different actress to play Padme because of her age. Carrie Fisher and Mark Hamil have aged a bit since 1983. I can't comment on her acting ability since I really haven't seen any of her other films. So, I don't know if she is a bad actor or if she just had bad direction and script. I'm sure you all have heard Harrison Ford's quote on GL's writing.

JimJamBonds
09-11-2005, 01:56 PM
Even if they did use The Xir's idea, I hope they would get a different actress to play Padme because of her age. Carrie Fisher and Mark Hamil have aged a bit since 1983. I can't comment on her acting ability since I really haven't seen any of her other films. So, I don't know if she is a bad actor or if she just had bad direction and script. I'm sure you all have heard Harrison Ford's quote on GL's writing.

I like her in Blues Brothers. Also a bit more recent: I thought Carrie was great in the first Austin Powers movie! :yes:

rich_of_the_dead
09-11-2005, 02:01 PM
i think this is truly one of the best ideas i have ever heard you go bro !:D
and as for the dumbest idea comment:whip: :whip: :whip: :whip:

The 'Xir
09-20-2005, 02:37 AM
Atleast, we are starting to get back "on-topic", not that I wouldn't mind discussing Nat's well...gnats but...

My Idea was solely based on my displeasure about Leias' memories of her mother that are now gloriously confusing! This is suppossed to be a story about a famliy, right? For forever we were wondering who Mrs. Skywalker really was, and all we had to go on was what Leia talked about in RotJ, and now all we have to go by is... well not much at all. Leia's reflections have no real signifcant meaning any more(atleast not directly to her (real)mother)) and what we have now been shown/told isn't very satisfying either! I made my whole scenario up on the fly, obviously relying heavily on the Novels and DH comics' "Dark Empire" series, but the main point was that there was an outlet, where Padme could survive so more could be fleshed out about this families destiny and to finally flesh this story out and make it whole, make it good, ...make it right! I mean, would anyone here really be upset if Lucas announced he was making 7,8 &9? OK well if he was wrtting/directing don't answer that but you know what I mean.

This was just one ex-Star Wars fans' despearte hope to have a fufilling and sensical(sp?) movie. :(