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jedi master sal
09-13-2005, 10:45 AM
Is it me or is the offering of Commander Gree just a little shoddy on the paint application?

Check out the toy pics here:
http://photos.sirstevesguide.com/showphoto.php?photo=14580&cat=4046
http://photos.sirstevesguide.com/showphoto.php?photo=14587&cat=4046

Then compare to the official site:
http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/gree/index.html
http://www.starwars.com/meta/rd/expand/expand.html?world=databank&img=/databank/character/gree/img/eu_bg.jpg&width=undefined&height=undefined&import=undefined

and you'll see that Hasbro is NOWHERE near how Gree looked in the movie.

Okay let's go over the points of discussion:
• For one notice even the helmet in the picture of the insert for the toy is from the movie and yet (1) the top portion of the helmet on the toy appears to be all green. Yet again the insert it's not. Going to the main site you can see that in fact it's not, (2) the "cheeks" of Gree are white, but the toy's are green. Again the insert in the toy packaging even clearly shows this.
• Chest straps-okay I'm not alone in feeling that Hasbro cheapened out here and painted them instead of sculpting them, but sheesh at least paint them thicker and EVEN!
•Overall green wash-particularly in two areas. The difference from the shoulder armor (dark green) and the lower arm armor (camoflauge and lighter green) is on the toy virtually indistinguishable. The chest part bothers me even more. The niddle part of the chest is the dark green while the rest is the camoflauge pattern. On the toy it's MUCH different. The middle portion is now the olive drab green while the outer parts are BLACK?? WTH is up with that? Once again this is even clear on the insert in the package.
• The legs suffer the same olive drab coloration rather than the light camoflauge that it should be (not to mention no pistolstrap on the left leg!)

All in all I've got to say that Hasbro did a crappy job with the paint apps of this figure. Will I still get him? Yes, but I will heavily modify at least one of him to be movie accurate. That and I'll make some appropriate chest straps and pistol strap.

Dang, I was all excited about this figure, but seeing what's coming out leaves VERY much to be desired. (And that's putting it nicely.)

Thoughts/comments/rebuttals?
-Sal

Hellboy
09-13-2005, 06:53 PM
Good observations Sal. I knew something seemed off when I first saw pictures of Commander Gree but hadn't taken the time to look into it as you did. Nice work.

Its pretty unfortunate that in Hasbro's rush to get 12 more figures out to capitalize on the success of the ROTS line they cut corners like this. The sad thing is as inaccurate as this figure is most of us will still buy it knowing that we'll probably never get another Gree. Customizing one of these will probably be our only chance at having a figure that represents the character we all saw in the film.

Very disappointing job Hasbro. :dis:

Luuuuuuke
09-14-2005, 03:19 AM
A Lord of the Rings customizer made a Gree for me a couple of months ago:
http://www.lordoftheringsguide.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=12454

He actually looks 10 times better in person.

I'm going to get the Hasbro release but I'm not sure it will be an improvement. In fact, I might end up deciding to buy two or three of them and just call them regular clone soldiers compared to my custom Gree.

jedi master sal
09-14-2005, 08:49 AM
A Lord of the Rings customizer made a Gree for me a couple of months ago:
http://www.lordoftheringsguide.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=12454

He actually looks 10 times better in person.

I'm going to get the Hasbro release but I'm not sure it will be an improvement. In fact, I might end up deciding to buy two or three of them and just call them regular clone soldiers compared to my custom Gree.

Ah, now see, if a LOTR fan can do this (while still not 100% accurate, it's MUCH better than Hasbro's), why can't Hasbro? BTW how much did that cost, if you don't mind me asking?

Oh and Luuuuuuke, I have the same idea. I'm going to buy a few of him. At first I thought I'd use him for just Gree, then realized that the paint job would make for a good Jungle/Forest Trooper. Instead of getting the 3or4 I first thought, I may get upwards of 8 of him now, customizing 3 of him as the "real" Gree.

Oh and here's a shot of Gree on one of THREE covers for SW Insider this month:
http://www.starwars.com/meta/rd/expand/expand.html?world=community&img=/community/fanclub/mag/img/20050913_1_bg.jpg&width=undefined&height=undefined&import=undefined&caption=

It's the same pose as above, but is a little clearer. Also if you want to see the other two covers for SW Insider issue 84 go here (It shows Commander Bly and the other of Fox):
http://www.starwars.com/community/fanclub/mag/news20050913.html

Luuuuuuke
09-14-2005, 01:20 PM
It's definitely not 100% accurate--the nose of the figure is missing a green paint application(there's a shade of the right "V" shape there, but I think he may have forgotten to paint it a more vivid green). But all in all, I think he came out really good.

The movie Gree has a CGI quality that is hard to replicate though, as you can probably tell from the official site's picture. He has a smoother look. So I didn't expect perfection from Hasbro. But I might buy 5 max of these as jungle troopers like you said Master Sal.

Mr. JabbaJohnL
09-14-2005, 06:50 PM
The weirdest thing about this is, the picture on the cardback shows the correct paint application, though the true figure does not. Maybe this will be yet another ROTS variation? We can only hope.

Also, I noticed that Passel Argente's chest scar is just painted on (pics at GH) . . . I thought they'd at least sculpt a new piece. Very disappointing.

jedi master sal
09-15-2005, 11:08 AM
Thing is Hasbro can and probably will use the excuse of "Product in package may differ..."

It's just an excuse to get out of doing it right.

Umbra
09-15-2005, 11:41 PM
looking at the new entertainment earth catalog, the Gree figure pictured seems to have at least the correct helmet paintjob

Luuuuuuke
09-16-2005, 01:13 AM
Ah, now see, if a LOTR fan can do this (while still not 100% accurate, it's MUCH better than Hasbro's), why can't Hasbro? BTW how much did that cost, if you don't mind me asking?



I just realized I never answered your question. He charged me $15. I think part of the reason was that he had never done a SW figure and it looked challenging. He was going to charge me $10 to customize an SA clone into a shocktrooper. Pretty reasonable I think.

jedi master sal
09-17-2005, 12:55 AM
That's a GREAT price, Lu(6)ke! Is he still doing them for that price? I'd like to get one.

Luuuuuuke
09-17-2005, 10:40 AM
That's a GREAT price, Lu(6)ke! Is he still doing them for that price? I'd like to get one.

I think he would do Gree for that price. He quoted me that price before doing it, who knows he might even charge less. I really don't know. Let me know and I can ask him, or get you his email or something.

Luuuuuuke
09-17-2005, 01:29 PM
Just fyi, if you're interested in a custom Gree from the guy who made mine(and by the way, that was his first and since then he's gotten more practice, so I'm sure anything he makes in the future will look even better), his email is: dkulmacz@yahoo.com.
Believe me, the Gree is posted up looks 10 times better in person, the weathering is awesome. And Dave is great about suggestions for improving on things.

Blackened88
09-17-2005, 10:10 PM
Do you have a link to the pics?

Luuuuuuke
09-17-2005, 11:49 PM
Do you have a link to the pics?


I posted it here earlier, but here is it is again:
http://www.lordoftheringsguide.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=12454

Again, keep in mind that this was his first Star Wars custom ever. He's not quite the rookie anymore. He's a cool guy to deal with too. The great thing about him is that you can take the figure he made for me as a reference point and tell him what you think could be done to make it more accurate.

Blackened88
09-18-2005, 12:39 AM
Thanks, that looks pretty good. I'll keep him in mind.

Luuuuuuke
09-20-2005, 01:33 AM
I've thought of asking him to make me a shocktrooper out of an SA clone but I think I'm going to wait for the line to be over.

spang2005
09-30-2005, 12:52 PM
I found a Commander Gree today, and after seeing it in person, Hasbro definately dropped the ball on this one.

Blackened88
09-30-2005, 09:29 PM
Where did you find him?

spang2005
10-01-2005, 12:39 AM
I found Gree at a Wal-Mart today in central Kentucky. I also saw a Wookie Commando, but I passed on it. Keep your eyes open. I've never found a figure this far ahead of its big hit before, so if I can find a Gree now, anyone can. In my honest opinion, he is defiantely worth buying despite the paint errors. By biggest beef is the lack of an accurate holster on his left leg. Other than that, I dont think it's a bad figure, but it could always be better.

Blackened88
10-01-2005, 06:55 PM
In my opinion If Hasbro did a variation change of the helmet to the correct look that would make him look alot better. If his helmet was corrected the holster would be the only critisim from me, desite the really bad paint job.

Veers
10-02-2005, 07:17 AM
Yeah, the helmet is all green. Hasbro has failed again to make a figure exactly like the movie version appears.