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scruffziller
10-11-2005, 02:01 PM
"Once again the Sith will rule the Galaxy!!!!" In the OT or (the rough drafts of the scripts) there was never an indication the Sith once ruled or that there had been an evil Empire before. As far as we know the OT's recollection of the Jedi was just that they were just Republic police and that the Empire happening then was the dark time to speak of. Of course Obi could be hiding info from Luke for his own good.

Not a profound thread, rather obvious. Since so many books were written before EPS I, they wrote it for GL. He wanted to keep the fans happy in that regard, I guess. Insight?

JimJamBonds
10-11-2005, 02:51 PM
I don't think so did the sith ever rule the galaxy? I know they had a big brew ha ha with the Jedi but I don't recall them ever having total control. As far as Palps comment about the Sith ruling I think what he was really saying was that HE will rule the galaxy.

Although as its been said Obi has been known to say only certain 'perspectives' on a given situation so maybe there was some back story that he never told Luke. lol

El Chuxter
10-11-2005, 03:04 PM
There was nothing prior to the prequels in the EU that indicated the Sith had ever ruled, although they caused some major upheaval. I believe the KOTOR games, though, deal with a brief period when the Sith did rule, but those are post-TPM.

I guess since there are multiple outcomes to the games, there's no official history. The Ultimate Visual Guide says that historical records from that period are fragmented and contradictory.

2-1B
10-11-2005, 11:33 PM
Master Windu said "the oppression of the Sith will never return" so I took that to be in reference to Palps' citation of a previous Sith rule of the galaxy.

scruffziller
10-12-2005, 11:59 AM
As far as Palps comment about the Sith ruling I think what he was really saying was that HE will rule the galaxy.


True, but that goes with the saying that there are only 2 Sith, no more no less. And since he is the Master........

JimJamBonds
10-12-2005, 12:13 PM
True, but that goes with the saying that there are only 2 Sith, no more no less. And since he is the Master........

Yup yup, although even if there were an army of Sith Palps would still be wearing the big boy pants and I think that meant alot to him. :D

decadentdave
10-12-2005, 01:11 PM
The "Rule By Two" doctrine was only applied to Sith philosophy after the rule of Darth Bane in which it was imposed because the legions of other Sith had all turned on each other in their bloody lust for power.

This information was found in the Star Wars.com databank:

Architect of the Sith
July 21, 2000

It was their hunger for power that doomed the Sith (http://www.starwars.com/databank/organization/thesith/) to extinction. Internecine fighting dwindled their ranks until their sinister order -- which once held dominance over a multitude of star systems in a distant Empire (http://www.starwars.com/databank/organization/theempire/) -- was reduced to a single member. It was this Sith Lord, Darth Bane, who enacted the rule of two; there would only be two Sith at a time: a master, and an apprentice. The Sith order began thousands of years ago, when a splinter group of dark side-turned Jedi (http://www.starwars.com/databank/organization/thejediorder/) were exiled from the Republic proper. Traveling through the void of unexplored space, these evil Force wielders came upon the world of Korriban, and its native inhabitants, the Sith. The Sith people were talented in their own magic, and the Force flowed strongly in their bloodlines. Despite their potential, the Sith were cowed by the newcomers, and the former Jedi set themselves up as gods among the primitive people.
Generations of interbreeding merged Jedi and Sith bloodlines so that the two became inseparable. Eventually, the term "Sith" came to encompass not only the native inhabitants of Korriban, but rather all members of the dark side sect. The Dark Lords of the Sith ruled from opulent palaces and ziggurats on Korriban and other worlds of their secluded area of space. The Sith grew powerful, and eventually launched a brazen attack into the heart of the Republic, starting a struggle that has lasted millennia.
http://www.starwars.com/eu/lit/young/img/capkoons_sm.gif Time and again the Sith and Jedi clashed, each conflict resulting in worlds ravaged by warfare. The last great battle between Jedi and Sith occurred in the scarred plains of Ruusan. The Sith Lord Kaan and his Brotherhood of Darkness did battle with the Jedi Army of Light. The immense battle resulted in the annihilation of both armies.
One Sith escaped the carnage: Darth Bane.
Bane sought to keep the order alive, but he had witnessed the self-destruction that was inherent in the Sith's previous ventures. Bane crafted the Sith order to preserve it as much as possible. There could only be two, no more, no less. Bane took an apprentice. When that apprentice succeeded him, that new Sith Lord would take an apprentice. And so the Sith would quietly continue for a millennium. Although encounters with Jedi were rare, the Jedi did eventually learn of this new Sith structure, and thought themselves rid of this menace.
http://www.starwars.com/eu/lit/young/img/1005_a_meyers.jpg It was not until the time of the Battle of Naboo (http://www.starwars.com/databank/location/naboo/) that the Sith re-emerged, seeking revenge for past defeat. This mission of vengeance has been inherited by Darth Sidious (http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/darthsidious/). Following in the dark tradition of Bane before him, Sidious' complex schemes remain hidden from the Republic at large, with few suspecting the impending chaos.
A detailed history of Darth Bane's past is revealed in the upcoming Secrets of the Sith book by Random House, available in October, 2000.

scruffziller
10-12-2005, 04:46 PM
Yup yup, although even if there were an army of Sith, Palps would still be wearing the big boy pants and I think that meant alot to him. :D Right, for the moment.... but that is why there are only 2 Sith as per Darth Bane instructed by DecadentDave. The only one who would cahllenge him would be Vader(or new apprentice). And Vader succeeded.