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Hellboy
05-20-2006, 11:39 PM
I just noticed the Casino Royale trailer (http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/casinoroyale/) was up.

I like what I see so far. :yes: Looks promising.

2-1B
05-20-2006, 11:58 PM
I saw the trailer in the theater today and all I could think about was the internet backlash against Craig. lol

The movie looked interesting though, so I'm gonna check it out. :thumbsup:
I'm not a huge 007 fan so I don't really have much in the way of expectations...

JimJamBonds
05-21-2006, 12:21 AM
I saw the trailer as well today and it just didn't feel like a Bond movie. I don't think I'll be seeing this one.

Slicker
05-21-2006, 01:28 AM
I saw the trailer as well today and it just didn't feel like a Bond movie. I don't think I'll be seeing this one.x2

This movie just didn't have the Bond feel in the trailer. I'm totally against this feller playin' Bond so that may have something to do with it though...

2-1B
05-21-2006, 01:47 AM
X2 came out 3 years ago. The new one is called X-Men The Last Stand.

starwarsfan1
05-21-2006, 12:54 PM
Bond movies just won't be the same without Pierce anymore.

JediTricks
05-21-2006, 02:20 PM
It's like they made him even uglier than before, he looks like a guy Bond would be pummelling, not Bond himself, and he carries that same vibe on-screen in that trailer.

As for the trailer's content, it felt very "generic action movie" to me, moreso than any other Bond trailer, but trailer editors sometimes do that on purpose so I'm not assuming Casino Royale is actually like that. Would have been nice to have some scenes in a CASINO though.

Slicker
05-21-2006, 02:38 PM
X2 came out 3 years ago. The new one is called X-Men The Last Stand.I'm not even sure how to properly respond to this one Caes. I think I'll just walk away as I've been outdueled...

DarthBrandon
05-21-2006, 02:43 PM
Not sure if I'm going to like the new Bond, but I'll have to check it out anyways as the trailer looks good enough that the movie may be O.K.

JediTricks
05-21-2006, 02:48 PM
I'm not even sure how to properly respond to this one Caes. I think I'll just walk away as I've been outdueled...
Slick, your Rommel-tar has a similar likeness to the new James Bond! :D

2-1B
05-21-2006, 06:25 PM
No way JT, I believe Rommel is way better looking than DC. :crazed:

I know Clive Owen turned down the idea of playing Bond but he would have been the bee's knees in that role. I think. :)

Yeah, uh, I agree JT, not much in the way of a Casino in the trailer. I noticed that as well, except for that close up 4th wall breaking shot of him at the end but the trailer sure didn't lead me to think there would be some casino action.

Lowly Bantha Cleaner
05-28-2006, 05:06 PM
I'll abstain from watching the trailer just like I did with Revenge of the Sith.

Still can't forgive MGM for not heeding the financial demands of Brosnan. I think the perfect "Casino Royale" would have an easing of the role for Craig as Brosnan tells the story of his first missions in flashback.

Craig is a competent actor and will probably acquit himself in the role nicely, but I'll reiterate the earlier concerns of him, he does not look like the agent. He does not have dark hair, is not over 6 feet tall, and does not have enough charm to woo the ladies that cross his path. While that may be overcome by great acting, it does not seem believable to me.

2-1B
05-29-2006, 01:04 AM
Entertainment Weekly graded the trailer an A-

I thought that was funny. lol

jjreason
05-29-2006, 01:15 AM
I haven't seen a Bond movie since half way through that Denise Richards debacle. Goldeneye was fine, but the action started taking center stage in the next one, so I fell asleep. I haven't even tried to watch the 3rd Brosnan adventure.

From what I've read, they've promised to bring the character and espionage elements back to the forefront. I'll go and see it just on spec - with any luck it will be more like classic James Bond.

Jedi_Master_Guyute
11-17-2006, 08:22 PM
slight spoilers nothing even remotely big, just discussing bond history in contrast to this flick.

Caught a 12:45 showing this afternoon to a pleasantly crowded theater. Very very excellent movie; makes the Dalton and Brosnan years look almost laughable. Were those good movies? For the most part (the last 2 from Bronsan were kinda iffy), but this flick is just fantastic. It's much darker than a majority of the installments. Here we see Bond without all the gimmicks, the cheesey lines: he gets beat around, he doesn't always get things to go his way, and he is actually a 3-D character versus some 2-D killing and shaggin' machine. The action is pretty awesome and that first chase scene is SUPERB. How that guy can do all that stuff, jumping and climbing is beyond my comprehension; Jackie Chan would be proud. I don't know the whole Bond history, but this one discusses his promotion to 00 status under the ever scrunitizing eye of M. Jump ahead a bit (we don't know, but i'm assuming the incident in the beginning and the rest of the film aren't related, and plus, M in the Judy Dench form don't come along till later, if memory serves and plus, mentions 9/11, so are we to think that the rest of Bond adventures take place between 9/11 and now or? Somebody clear this up) and Bond is tracking a bomb maker (played by the kick arse free runner Sebastian Foucan and the movie expands. I wont' get into it much, but I will say that i enjoyed the film a lot. Check it out and yes, i do approve of Craig as Bond. He's a cold hearted bastid, but also has his weak spots and vuneralbitilites. And hey, no really really campy lines. sweet. :thumbsup:

General_Grievous
11-17-2006, 09:14 PM
This has got to be one of my favorite Bond flicks. Daniel Craig did an amazing job as Bond, much better than Brosnan and Dalton. I'm sorry I ever doubted him. And Eva Green was a great Bond girl. Probably the best since " The Spy Who Loved Me". And how brutal was that torture scene? Yeesh. But when Bond said his famous "Bond...James Bond" line at the end, the whole theater cheered. I can't wait until the next Bond movie. Hopefully Daniel Craig will stay on for a while.

JetsAndHeels
11-17-2006, 09:59 PM
Thanks for the reviews guys. I am planning on seeing it tomorrow...can't wait.

JetsAndHeels
11-18-2006, 10:29 PM
I saw it tonight and thought it was great. I now officially take back the doubts I had concerning Daniel Craig as James Bond. He had some great lines and his overall demeanor and presence in the film was classic. It was definately worth the price of admission.

scruffziller
11-18-2006, 10:59 PM
Wow guys, Guyute, J&H, GG you took the words right outta my mouth with everything that I have been saying after I left the theatre. I kept hearing that it was a fluffjob by folks who had seen it already lastnight, but this is one of the best Bonds I have seen since Sean Connery. Brosnan's films in general are a disgrace to the franchise. The World is not Enough is the only one I thought was descent. Maybe it was just the opening score that I like. Shirley Manson's voice is heavenly!!!!:love:

What I liked about it was that they didn't try to fill the seemingly weak spots with crap. That will kill a movie. A minimalist approach will always be better than trying to compensate by trying to put something there. Just leave it be. Less is more. The best example I use is is TRANSPORTER 1 vs TRANSPORTER 2.
Transporter 2 would have been a descent sequel if it didn't have a bunch of crap bogging it down. People who try to argue that Trans2 was "pretty good" are only using a Devil's advocate angle to their argument and don't know what they are talking about.

This movie was pure content. The poker game was reminiscent of Bond's showdown with the video game in Never Say Never Again.
Craig's look I think is the main thing that is throwing most people off, but his performance did more than enough to earn him respect to the Bond name. Most people my parents age that grew up with Connery, are having nothing more than nostalgia lag. They compare the new with the old that they know and love. So it is a tough sell.
The conversation in the train car took me back in time for a moment. I thought it was Sir Sean sitting in the seat speaking to the lovely lady.:thumbsup:
Have you guys had any moments there in the film that Craig reminded you of
Connery, Moore, etc.? I kinda chalk him up to a hybrid between Connery and Moore.

Jayspawn
11-19-2006, 08:32 AM
I saw it opening night and WOW! I had my doughts but not anymore. Craig is definatly worthy of the role of Bond! I kept waiting for him to say is signature name and I thought maybe the writers had forgotten. Then when he finally says it at the end, Woohoo! Playing the Bond Theme at the end was also a great part of the ending.

decadentdave
11-19-2006, 10:12 AM
I'll abstain from watching the trailer just like I did with Revenge of the Sith.

Still can't forgive MGM for not heeding the financial demands of Brosnan. I think the perfect "Casino Royale" would have an easing of the role for Craig as Brosnan tells the story of his first missions in flashback.

Craig is a competent actor and will probably acquit himself in the role nicely, but I'll reiterate the earlier concerns of him, he does not look like the agent. He does not have dark hair, is not over 6 feet tall, and does not have enough charm to woo the ladies that cross his path. While that may be overcome by great acting, it does not seem believable to me.

I totally agree with you. No matter how good of a film Casino Royale is, Daniel Craig is NOT BOND.

Jedi_Master_Guyute
11-19-2006, 10:43 AM
I totally agree with you. No matter how good of a film Casino Royale is, Daniel Craig is NOT BOND.

Man DD, it seems pretty assinine and idiotic to judge an actor without seeing the actual film. Then again, i wouldn't ever suspect you of doing such a thing. After all, it would make sense to judge the actor only after you've seen the film. What do i know though? :thumbsup:

scruffziller
11-19-2006, 12:04 PM
Daniel Craig is NOT BOND.
Riiiiiigggggghhhhhhttttt...........

That's what they kept saying about every actor that replaced Sean Connery.

2-1B
11-19-2006, 12:36 PM
So what are they saying over at craignotbond.com ? I've not had a chance to look...I've also not had a chance to see the movie but it looks interesting.

Jedi_Master_Guyute
11-19-2006, 12:55 PM
So what are they saying over at craignotbond.com ? I've not had a chance to look...I've also not had a chance to see the movie but it looks interesting.

That site seems to have been "disabled" as of right now. The other danielcraig, blah blah.com has a bunch of random negative reviews from bloggers, wesites, etc. Aka: their argument doesn't hold much validity. :crazed:

decadentdave
11-19-2006, 03:53 PM
I'm not going to see it because no matter how etertaining the film is, I will never accept Craig in the role. He doesn't fit the image of Bond. That's like casting Ben Affleck to replace Harrison Ford as Indiana Jones. It's not Indy, it's just another guy wearing his hat. Casino Royale is nothing more than Layer Cake with a bigger budget. That film put me to sleep. Reimagining Bond was as bad a mistake as reimagining Battlestar Galactica. I'm not sure which is worse, turning Starbuck into a chick or Daniel Craig playing Bond. I can't stand either one. They are ruining everything I have loved one franchise at a time.

2-1B
11-19-2006, 04:45 PM
That's like casting Ben Affleck to replace Harrison Ford as Indiana Jones.

or as Jack Ryan

Rocketboy
11-22-2006, 09:17 PM
Awesome movie.

I always held a wait-and-see attitude toward Craig. I thought he ws fantastic.
Craig brought humanity back to Bond where hindsight now sees Brosnan's as more of a caricature.

That action secenes were far better than I anticipated (and far better than most action movies these days). They were over the top, but not cartoonish. I never thought a card game could be exciting.

The few minor complaints:
I saw a few of the twists coming a mile away.
No Q or Moneypenny - toned-down re-intro versions would have been nice.
The opening theme - not the song, but the animation. Where were the token hot chick sihlouettes?

master jedi
12-05-2006, 02:52 AM
I really liked this movie. I do have some issues with it though but some of them can be explained being as it's when Bond first becomes a Double 0 agent.
My issues are:
1. M is played by Judy Dench, a woman. The Bond films are filled with retroactive continuity (think that's the term) to explain newer technology when compared to the previous films but I think they could've at least kept M a man. I love Judy Dench but as far as the basic Bond storyline goes she's a relatively new M. Like John Cleese taking over as Q as in the previous Bond films. In that sense I think that M shoul have been played by a man.

2. Bond doesn't say "shaken. not stirred." they allude to it but he never says it. I'm sure he'd been drinking martinis before becoming a Double 0 agent.

-these first two are basically my only real problems with the film but I can look past them.

3. No Q or Moneypenny. This can be explained. THey may not have hired Moneypenny yet. With Q they may not have hired him yet or MI6 might not have really brought that into their system/agency yet.

4. At the beginning of every bond film they have you look down a scope or barrel of a gun and Bond shoots the gunman and blood trickles down. I thought this one was noticeably different. I know there are differences in the different Bond films in the past but this one seemed noticably different, to me anyways. But because they're different depending of the Bond film I don't really care about this one being noticeably different.

5. Bond doesn't use his traditional gun. Though I don't really mind because he's basically coming into his own as a Double 0 agent.

6. I thought the card game could've been shorter. It's not that it was bad, it was pretty good. I just think it could've been shorter.


I did like how they made it seem less sci-fi-ish. The pierce Brosnan 007 film seemed a bit sci-fi-ish and sort of unrealistic compared to other Bond films. I thought this one brought back more of the feel of the older/original Bond movies which I love.

Overall, fantastic movie. I liked Craig as Bond, too. Even thoughI did have my doubts. I hope he returns for more 007 films.

General_Grievous
12-06-2006, 02:55 PM
No Q or Moneypenny - toned-down re-intro versions would have been nice.
The opening theme - not the song, but the animation. Where were the token hot chick sihlouettes?

They'll all be back next movie-I hope.

Lowly Bantha Cleaner
12-07-2006, 05:41 PM
I too liked the movie after having my initial misgivings about Craig as Bond. But the key to remember is that after Connery left, the moviemakers have stressed that Bond has never been one man. Each different actor has brought in their own special uniqueness that has contributed to the culmination of the Bond we know.

Remember in Live and Let Die, Moore's first outing as 007, Bond never drank a martini (was it a malted whiskey? I can't remember) and didn't drive the Aston-Martin. We see the same in Craig, (he does drive an Aston-Martin though although doesn't order the martini the correct way). And we also see a skip of the gun barrel sequence, as Master Jedi mentioned, as the movie cuts right to the chase (I didn't like that change :( )

Craig doesn't have the charm that Brosnan possesed, or the sense of humor that Moore owned, but he does have a toughness that lends a bit of reality to the superhero Bond which has been portrayed a bit too extreme in the latter movies.

I loved the portrayal of James Bond and I welcome more movies by Craig.

BountyHunterScum
12-20-2006, 11:18 PM
This has got to be one of my favorite Bond flicks. Daniel Craig did an amazing job as Bond, much better than Brosnan and Dalton. I'm sorry I ever doubted him. And Eva Green was a great Bond girl. Probably the best since " The Spy Who Loved Me". And how brutal was that torture scene? Yeesh. But when Bond said his famous "Bond...James Bond" line at the end, the whole theater cheered. I can't wait until the next Bond movie. Hopefully Daniel Craig will stay on for a while.

The torture scene was a bit disturbing. Seriously who really whacks people in the nuts with a metal tipped rope. The real Bond would have avoided getting hit. This Bond was a little too gullible.

scruffziller
12-21-2006, 11:27 AM
This Bond was a little too gullible.

That is because he is a little green.


Seriously who really whacks people in the nuts with a metal tipped rope.

Villians who mean business.:rolleyes:

BountyHunterScum
12-21-2006, 01:44 PM
That is because he is a little green.



Villians who mean business.:rolleyes:

Heroes who mean business wouldn't even bother with the speech about yielding in time. I'd go to work on Le chiffre regardless, no speeches no bs just the bad guy in extreme agony then ultimately death. In some peoples' points of view I'd be seen as evil. Who say's I care what they think though.

Jedi_Master_Guyute
01-08-2007, 11:35 PM
Early DVD info from DVDactive:


Sony Pictures Home Entertainment has revealed some early details on Casino Royale which stars Daniel Craig, Eva Green, Judi Dench, and Jeffrey Wright. The full details have yet to be revealed, although we can confirm that the two-disc collector's edition will include a Becoming Bond documentary that takes an intimate look at how Daniel Craig stepped into the role of the 6th James Bond, a James Bond: For Real featurette that looks at the action and stunts, a Bond Girls are Forever featurette that takes a closer look at Bond's leading ladies, a Death in Venice featurtte, and the Chris Cornell ‘You Know My Name’ music video. The film itself will receive an anamorphic widescreen presentation, and English Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround track. We'll bring you further details just as soon as we receive them. Stay tuned for that.


This 2-disc set will be mine; oh yes. It'll look nice next to my Ultimate Bond collections 1-4. :crazed:

Rocketboy
01-09-2007, 11:57 AM
No release date?

EDIT: ComingSoon.net says March 13.

General_Grievous
01-09-2007, 06:44 PM
The torture scene was a bit disturbing. Seriously who really whacks people in the nuts with a metal tipped rope.

That friggin thing was metal tipped? I don't remember that. I always thought it was just a huge knot in the rope.

Anyway, it's likely that I'll pick up the DVD.