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PickADuck
08-21-2001, 09:59 PM
I am kind of new to the Star War scene. I saw it on video at a birthday party when I was a kid and a few years ago in the movies with the special edition version. I still have one pressing question on my mind. How did Han Solo and Luke Skywalker get into the bodies of the stormtrooper robots when they took Chewy to the detention center.
Someone at that party was talking about the stormtrooper robots and that is the only one of the movies that someone wears their shell. Can someone who knows more of Star Wars than me tell me what happened? I heard from a guy at work that theres lots of books now, but I have not found any yet.

Jargo
08-21-2001, 10:16 PM
ARE YOU FOR REAL? Please tell me you really are just not clued up about star wars...

Hmmm. okay.. I'll let you into a little known secret......There are people inside those stormtrooper suits, they're soldiers, they aren't robots...... But don't tell everyone or we'll have a mob riot on our hands! ;)

The rumour is that the stormtroopers are really just a cloned army. But we don't have concrete proof of that until the new movie comes out.

If this is just a wind up I shall be terribly terribly cross.:mad:

JEDIpartner
08-22-2001, 09:20 AM
Quite right, Emperor Jargo!

Senor Duck... they are just soldiers in armour! Glad you asked the question... it will most likely help others!

Now you know something you didn't know before you asked!

Grif
08-22-2001, 04:08 PM
By the way Mr. Duck, a rebel wears a stormtropper uniform in Return of the Jedi.

El Chuxter
08-22-2001, 04:46 PM
Mr Duck, I'm sure there's not a single person here who didn't think Stormtroopers were robots at one point. :)

As for books, there are indeed a lot of them. Most can be found or ordered at your local bookstore or online. A few, though, are out of print (such as the kids' horror series Galaxy of Fear, which is quite a chore to track down in its entirety). If you're just starting out, I'd recommend The Star Wars Visual Dictionary (which can be found on clearance through many retailers). It's not the most comprehensive reference book out there, but it includes quite a bit of info on the Stormtroopers. Also check out the Han Solo trilogy by AC Crispin (The Paradise Snare, The Hutt Gambit, and Rebel Dawn), which tell of Han Solo's origins, Timothy Zahn's Thrawn trilogy (Heir to the Empire, Dark Force Rising, and The Last Command), which were the first post-Jedi novels and take place five years after Return of the Jedi.

The other books vary in quality from excellent to bantha poodoo. There's generally quite a bit of discussion under the Comics & Books section of this very forum as to the quality of different books.

master jedi
08-22-2001, 08:43 PM
Stormtroopers robots? What the...?
I've never thought they were robots.
PickADuck, I sure hope you were getting confused with darktroopers.

JediTricks
08-23-2001, 02:06 AM
Originally posted by Grif
By the way Mr. Duck, a rebel wears a stormtropper uniform in Return of the Jedi. That's a scout trooper uniform, actually.

Grif
08-23-2001, 04:18 PM
I know. I may be dumb but I am not stupid.

Obi-Don
08-23-2001, 05:08 PM
Pickaduck,don't worry about dumb questions.The only ones that are dumb are the ones not asked.Unless you are me asking them.:D

JediTricks
08-24-2001, 12:29 PM
Ok Grif, just wanted to make sure that other folks reading this thread get the info too.

BTW, there ARE two types of dumb questions:
1) The question not asked;
2) The question asked when a response is not really what the user wants.
;)

Jargo
08-24-2001, 10:26 PM
Now see - with gems like that it's easy to see that that's why JT's a moderator and us schmucks are merely members. :) Can you match such pearls of wisdom El Chuxter? ;)




So now that's three moderators from CA... the thick plottens.....

GNT
08-25-2001, 12:37 AM
Originally posted by master jedi
Stormtroopers robots? What the...?
I've never thought they were robots.

I never ever thought they were robots either!

stillakid
08-25-2001, 01:18 AM
Which leads to an even better question:

What did our heros do with the bodies of the guys they shot up in the control room? We never see Han or Luke move them, yet nobody ever trips over them either? Hmm?

BenQuad
08-25-2001, 08:17 AM
How about..... they put them in the storage compartments and dumped them later.

The Bald Ewok
08-25-2001, 09:37 AM
If you want to take it a little further.....according to the SW visual dictionary, the officers you saw wearing black unforms with the black hats were stormtroopers out of armor. Only when there was a battle would they wear their white armor outfits. However, when I was a kid I didnt want to believe that they was human, but instead robots. So I can see where the confusion could be.

BenQuad
08-25-2001, 10:47 AM
Confession...... when I first saw ANH (first release) back in 1978, I thought they were robots to. I was only 8 years old though. Didn't take me too long to work it out though, think I was 9. :)

Bel-Cam Jos
08-25-2001, 11:46 AM
I too believed they were robots. Remember how poorly the sentry robots from The Black Hole shot? I figured that was why Stormtroopers couldn't hit anything. I just assumed that Han and Luke scooped out the wires and gears to get into the suits. I think Ben and Chewie ate the officers! Wookies need lots of calories, and Ben just doesn't get quality Coruscant dishes like he used to. ;)

Bel-Cam Jos
08-25-2001, 11:48 AM
P.S. Yes, S.T.A.R. was quite the sharp-shooter in TBH, but he cheated! V.I.N.C.E.N.T. sure showed him!
Two-barreled blasters rule!

JediTricks
08-25-2001, 12:49 PM
Originally posted by The Bald Ewok
If you want to take it a little further.....according to the SW visual dictionary, the officers you saw wearing black unforms with the black hats were stormtroopers out of armor. Only when there was a battle would they wear their white armor outfits. However, when I was a kid I didnt want to believe that they was human, but instead robots. So I can see where the confusion could be. I read that too, but then why are there garrisons upon garrsions of armor-clad Stormtroopers running around the Death Star after the Falcon lands and it's announced nobody's inside? There's no reason to be in armor at that point between the time it's announced that nobody's aboard to the time that Han has his boring conversation.

Obi-Don
08-25-2001, 02:28 PM
I never thought they were robots,but then again I didn't do a whole lot of thinking when I first saw Star Wars.I was in to it to deeply to wonder about those things.I to think that the stormtroopers need some training in marksmanship really bad.

bigbarada
08-25-2001, 05:36 PM
I had the stormtrooper toys before I saw the movie, and I always used to think they were robots, until I read the comic. I used to pretend the "OII" on their back was a rocket pack, too. My stormtroopers could fly!!;)

JediCole
08-26-2001, 01:43 AM
As for the question of what Luke and Han did with the troopers they killed to get the armor (not to mention the hapless scanning crew, the answer is simple.

The scanning crew, their equipment and the remains of two Stormtroopers in their skivies were tossed into the same smuggling compartments that had previously allowed three humans, two droids and a Wookie to evade a cursory run through of the Falcon by Stormtroopers who could obviously think of fourteen dozen things they would rather be doing than walking the hallways of a captured freighter. That much is simple and really rather obvious.

What most don't know (as it does not appear anywhere in the tons of backstory that now exists for the Star Wars Universe is what role these poor departed soles played in the future of the trilogy.

You see, the smuggling compartments that Han never thought he'd have to smuggle himself within were, out of necessity, dangerously close to the better part of the hyperdrive motivator. When one has a hold full of spice stowed away in there, no big deal. Unfortunatly not only did no one trip over the bodies resulting from Han and Luke's rescue escapades, no one remembered that they were there at all! And so it was that many an unchronicled adventure took place after the departure from Yavin and the subsequent arrival on Hoth. Many months passed and depspite a distasteful scent unfairly blamed on Chewie, there was little to jog the memory of our heroes. And so it was that the decomposing remains of four former Imperial troops served to compromise the hyperdrive motivator on the Millenium Falcon, causing Han much frustration when he attempted to depart the Hoth system with Leia during the Rebel exodus. Though it was later discovered that the hyperdrive was in need of repairs, what C-3PO failed to understand was that the Falcon's computer was conveying news of the presence of rotted corpses in the smuggling hold. Furthermore, upon arrival on Cloud City, a crack team of Bespin mechanics and engineers set to work on the Falcon's hyperdrive and soon discovered the tragic secret. Mortified they chose to simply report to their superiors that the Falcon was fixed and ready to fly. In light of the arrival of Imperial troops earlier that week, the repair team decided to lie low on this one, prefering not reporting the remains to being detained indefinitely as witness for the Imperial Prosecution which had an infamous tendancy to "throw the baby out with the bathwater" and execute all parties involved in capital crimes, including their own star witnesses.

There you have it, an abbreviated version of one of my yarns from "Star Wars: Tales from the Background".

Jargo
08-26-2001, 08:40 AM
Dude, you one sick puppy! :p I never thought that the stormtroopers were robots as they move too like humans to be robots and their voices were too human. As to the captured Imperials, I reckoned that they simply awoke from there imposed unconsciousness and slipped from the falcon while the stormies were hunting the intruders and tiptoed back to their quarters un-noticed feeling foolish and red faced skulking around in their underoos while trying to think up a really really good excuse as to why they'd lost their armour and hadn't completed their duties. I had visions of one of them producing a note from his mother when confronted by vader to excuse him from *insert task of choice here... *

stillakid
08-26-2001, 11:01 AM
No, no, wait...

I meant, what happened to the guys that they killed in the control room? You know, when Chewy growls after the door opens. The head guy that is about to leave the room is shot immediately and presumably hits the floor. Our heros never move him or trip over him. The Stormtroopers later on don't take any notice either.

JediTricks
08-26-2001, 12:20 PM
Originally posted by bigbarada
I had the stormtrooper toys before I saw the movie, and I always used to think they were robots, until I read the comic. I used to pretend the "OII" on their back was a rocket pack, too. My stormtroopers could fly!!;) I thought, and still think, that the section of the armor you're talking about is a socket for attaching specialty backpacks, so it's quite possible they ARE for rocketpacks. Since comics ain't canon, we may yet see something about this in the prequels.


"Tales from the Background" - TOO FUNNY!!! Great stuff, I loved it.


As for that poor fool who opened the control room door and his buddy, I think they ended up being dianoga-chow. :D

stillakid
08-26-2001, 05:17 PM
But who put them there and when?

bigbarada
08-26-2001, 05:48 PM
When Han and Chewie break into the control room, Chewie bashes the first officer sending him flying off and out of the way of the door. Han blasts the other officer. who presumably falls down also out of the way. Or he could've been moved by Chewie when he was off-camera.
When the Stormtroopers blast into the control room, the leader says, "Take over, see to him." Pointing down to someone on the ground. I assume its the officer who Han blasted, maybe the one hit by Chewie was knocked so far out of the way that the Stormtroopers didn't notice him when they first walked in. He could have been crumpled up in the corner.

I understand this is really not what you wanted. So how about this: STAR WARS IS A STUPID MOVIE THAT NO ONE WITH HALF A BRAIN WOULD EVER LIKE SINCE THEY DON'T EVEN EXPLAIN EVERY SINGLE LITTLE MINUTE UNNECESSARY DETAIL. WHY WATCH A MOVIE THAT DOESN'T SPEND HOURS OF UNNECESSARY TIME COVERING UP PLOT HOLES?

There that better?:D

Bel-Cam Jos
08-26-2001, 05:58 PM
As a kid, my "proof" that Stormtroopers were robots was the "OII" on their backs. My friends and I thought it was "Oll" (as in "oil" ), and that the packs were their fuel tanks.

But NOW I know the TRUTH. Ewoks are in those suits! :D

BenQuad
08-26-2001, 07:42 PM
I meant, what happened to the guys that they killed in the control room? You know, when Chewy growls after the door opens. The head guy that is about to leave the room is shot immediately and presumably hits the floor. Our heros never move him or trip over him. The Stormtroopers later on don't take any notice either.

Quite simple really...

Luke : "What about the bodies.....?"

Ben : "Don't worry young Luke, the Force will show us the way. But remember no disintegration..... oh dear. "

Han : "...oops."

Chewie : "doh!"

stillakid
08-26-2001, 10:14 PM
I don't remember anyone saying "See to him" but it's been awhile. Thanks.

JediTricks
08-27-2001, 11:28 AM
barada, I always thought that comment "Take over, see to him" is about the dorky trooper who walked into the door, but the script confirms what you're saying. You know, it's pretty lame of Han and Luke to leave those bodies there, they could have put them in a garbage chute or behind some of those boxes at the other side of the room.

bigbarada
08-27-2001, 07:27 PM
Yeah, but that whole rescue operation was just one stupid decision after another. That's what made it so cool!!:D

The 'Xir
08-30-2001, 10:41 PM
I was about 4 or 5 when I saw SW in the theatres, and I too was under the impression that stormtroopers were robots at first! The strange thing was I didn't get that impression from Vader! Go figure. Oh and hey pickaduck! Welcome to the forums! May your Jedi studies here, be fruitful!

Lobito
09-21-2001, 04:18 PM
When i first saw the movie i also thought the Stormies were robots, but i was a kid. The next time i saw a SW movie i realized they were no robots, but that was until ESB came out. 20+ yrs ago...:D

2-1B
02-17-2008, 01:58 PM
Mr Duck, I'm sure there's not a single person here who didn't think Stormtroopers were robots at one point. :)


I never thought they were robots.

El Chuxter
02-18-2008, 11:58 PM
You lie, Liar McLiar. :mad: