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Bel-Cam Jos
06-22-2006, 03:13 PM
We have a wonderful thread here about what we are reading now, and I'm pleased that so many of us are into the copyrighted bookbound pulp and ink. At times, several of us have mentioned other books we've read before (and sometimes are re-reading). So, what have you read before that you've loved? Or despised? Or been indifferent about? If someone was just getting into reading or has time off (i.e. summer vacation), what would you suggest? Doesn't have to be SW related, can be anything in book form (no magazines, comics, newspapers, or inappropriate types [for this thread]).

As a start, my favorite book of all time is John Steinbeck's The Grapes of Wrath. Will discuss it more as replies add up.

El Chuxter
06-22-2006, 03:30 PM
My three favorite books ever written are One Hundred Years of Solitude by Gabriel Garcia Marquez, The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain, and Gulliver's Travels by Jonathan Swift.

If you haven't read them, do so.

If you read them and didn't like them, I should kick you in the groin, but it wouldn't matter none since you ain't human. :p

I've not read The Grapes of Wrath, but everything I've read by Steinbeck has been high on my list.

Kidhuman
06-22-2006, 03:57 PM
One of my all time faves is Catcher in the Rye. A great book. I would also reccomend Stephen King as well, The Talisman by him and Peter Straub is a good book. Havent read part 2 yet though.

Patient Zero
06-22-2006, 04:29 PM
Anything by Camus or Rimbaud, but on the less serious side of things I would suggest Carl Mellick. His works are like putting your brain in a blender and laughing hysterically as it rotates. That guy should be cut open and studied.

Bel-Cam Jos
06-25-2006, 11:16 PM
As a start, my favorite book of all time is John Steinbeck's The Grapes of Wrath. Will discuss it more as replies add up.This is, IMHO, the true "Great American Novel." It has the American Dream (while seldom fufilled), the struggles that both made the country great and pitiful, and true-to-life grit intermixed with poetic fancy that is still realistic. Contradiction and consistency, beauty and barbarism, depth and desire. A wonderful tale, that while historically based, is still fiction at its finest.

Here's what I've read so far in my life that I've been able to document or remember, totalling as of today at 613 books (I have my master list elsewhere, so this is off memory):

- 204 Star Wars novels and "story" books (not counting comic books, trivia guides, visual collections, Essential Guides)
- about 10 Encyclopedia Brown mysteries
- about 7 Paddington Bear books
- all 6 Harry Potters
- all 12 Series of Unfortunate Events
- just about every Dave Barry book written
- all 4 of William Least Heat Moon's books (shortest is 300 pages, longest is 800+)
- Steinbecks' G of W, Cannery Row, The Pearl, The Red Pony, The Wayward Bus (I think), Of Mice & Men
- Shakespeare's Romeo & Juliet, Julius Caesar, Midsummer Night's Dream, King Lear, Macbeth, Hamlet
- just about every Joseph Campbell book (except Skeleton Key to Finnegan's Wake and The Portable Jung, I believe)
- at least 4 by Mark Twain (Huck Finn, Tom Sawyer, Puddin'head Wilson, CT Yankee in KA's Court, etc.)
- 3 by Stephen King (Eye of the Dragon, Running Man, the anthology that includes "Apt Pupil," "The Body" et all)
- several by H.G. Wells
- several by Arthur C. Clarke
- several by Jules Verne
- To Kill a Mockingbird
- Poisonwood Bible
- The Alchemist
- a few by Alice Walker
- a couple by Toni Morrison
- The Notebook and Message in a Bottle
- the "Bunnicula" series
- Mrs. Pepperpot to the Rescue
- several by Carlos Castaneda
- several by Judy Bloom
- Joy Luck Club
- Memoirs of a Geisha
- Speak
- Monster (not the movie one)
- 2 by Rudolpho Anaya (Bless Me Ultima and By the [some river] I Wept)
- Big Fish
- Fried Green Tomatoes at the Whistlestop Cafe
- the Lord of the Rings trillogy (plus The Hobbit, Roverendale [sp?], Ballad of Tom Bombadill, Unfinished Tales, Silmarillion)
- Bridges of Madison County
- 4 by Howard Gardner (creator of "multiple intelligences" concept)
- Blink and The Tipping Point
- Born of the 4th of July
- Forrest Gump
- Game of Thrones
- Epic of Gilgamesh
- Beowolf
- Odyessey and Illiad
- Dante's Divine Comedy trilogy
- Aenid [sp?]
- Wuthering Heights
- The Zoo Story
- a few by Paul Zindell
- Canterbury Tales
- Ivanhoe
- about 4 by Charles Dickens

And many more I fail to recall right now. Will highlight those that I really love later.

Kidhuman
06-26-2006, 01:07 AM
the anthology that includes "Apt Pupil," "The Body" et all)

That would be Different Seasons and it contained Shawshank Redemption and Stand by me as well.

Darth Jax
06-26-2006, 08:49 AM
That would be Different Seasons and it contained Shawshank Redemption and Stand by me as well.
'the body' that BCJ mentioned is 'stand by me'

nice list BCJ. chevy chase did the character justice in fletch, but the books are better.

Rocketboy
06-26-2006, 09:45 AM
chevy chase did the character justice in fletch, but the books are better.I read "Flecth Won" last summer when there was still a chance that Kevin Smith would be making a movie. I'm disappointed he's not, especially with the two possible leads he wanted (Jason Lee or Zach Braff), but it was a great, fun read anyway.

Bel-Cam Jos
06-26-2006, 10:34 AM
That would be Different Seasons and it contained Shawshank Redemption and Stand by me as well.I think the story was "Rita Hayworth at Shawshank," or something; I forget the 4th story's name.

And here are some more I thought of last night:

- all 7 in Narnia series
- 5 by Douglas Adams
- DaVinci Code, Angels & Demons
- Brief History of Time
- Lord of Flies
- 3 books in Oedipus cycle
- Their Eyes Were Watching God
- Invisible Man (by Ralph Ellison, see above for Wells one)
- first Left Behind
- a few movie novelizations (Fish that Saved Pittsburgh, Batman, THX 1138, IJ and Last Crusade)
- The Dig
- Native Son
- Raisin in Sun
- The Awakening
- Jurassic Park & Lost World
- Bridge to Terabithia
- The Outsiders
- 1984 and Animal Farm
- The Stranger
- Cool Hand Luke
- 3 Bud Macfarlane Catholic novels
- Di and I
- Old Man and Sea
- Tortilla Flat
- Pomona Queen
- Do Androids Dream of Elec. Sheep?
- Moonraker and Casino Royale
- When China Ruled Seas
- The Crucible
- The Scarlet Letter
- Catcher in Rye
- Shoeless Joe and Shoeless Joe Comes to Iowa (not the same: one’s good, other’s bad)
- Fahrenheit 451
- Something Wicked This Way Comes
- Walden & Civil Disobedience
- Icarus Hunt
- Emerald
- Wizard of Oz
- Alice’s Adven. In Wonderland & Through Looking Glass
- Peter Pan
- Island of Blue Dolphins
- Uncle Tom’s Cabin
- Great Gatsby
- Glass Menagerie
- The Little Prince
- Jonathan Livingston Seagull
- Treasure Island
- Robinson Crusoe, Journal of Plague Year
- Things Fall Apart
- The Question of Hu
- The Sea and Poison
- The Doctor’s Wife
- 2 What If? revisionist history books
- Mouse & Motorcycle, Ralph to Rescue
- Flowers for Algernon
- Night, The Accident
- The Good Earth
- Skipping Christmas
- Samarkand
- Heart of Darkness
- Portrait of Artist as Young Man
- Dracula
- Frankenstein
- a few sports biographies (Bradshaw, Clemente, Bird)
- How to Eat Fried Worms
- Charlotte’s Web
- Stuart Little
- Charley and Choc. Factory, Charley and Great Glass Elevator
- The Princess Bride
- at least 3 by Isaac Asimov
- Death Comes for Archbishop, O Pioneers!
- 3 White Mountains series
- Anne Frank diary
- Red Badge of Courage
- Our Town
- Jewish Japanese Sex and Cookbook and How to Raise Wolves (weird one…)
- Sisterhood of Traveling Pants
- The Natural
- Things They Carried
- Basil and Pygmy Cats
- Call of Wild
- Million Little Pieces
- Go Tell It on Mountain
- Siddhartha
- The Prince
- Strange Case of Dr. J & Mr. H
- Gulliver’s Travels
- Cyrano de Bergerac
- Seedfolks, Half A Moon Inn
- 2 Turtle Street books
- The Gizmo
- Jude the Obscure
- The Jungle
- The Octopus
- All the King’s Men
- Wrinkle in Time
- House on Mango Street

I'll take a break now; I have a book to read. :D

Kidhuman
06-27-2006, 02:54 AM
I think the story was "Rita Hayworth at Shawshank," or something; I forget the 4th story's name.


The breathing method...


http://www.horrorking.com/different.html

Bel-Cam Jos
06-27-2006, 01:04 PM
The breathing method...


http://www.horrorking.com/different.htmlThat's right; thanks, kh.

Taking my book list, here's what I'd consider my 10 favorites (in no particular order):

- The Grapes of Wrath (see above)
- LOTR: The Fellowship of the Ring (of all the Lord of the Rings books, I recall enjoying the character development the best in this one, but it's hard to choose among these great stories)
- Poisonwood Bible (by Barbara Kingsolver, wonderful characters, mystery that is still somewhat uncertain by the end, and I love palindromes! )
- The Da Vinci Code (it just grabbed me and I couldn't let it go, a fast read that is well-constructed)
- Hero with a Thousand Faces (Joseph's Campbell's most noted work, it led to a lot of links in other areas of philosophy/religion/archeology/etc.... it's even where my user name comes)
- King Lear (my favorite Shakespeare work, includes my favorite character The Fool, sad and empathetic but good lessons to learn)
- 1984 (by George Orwell, oddly frightening account of the "future" that hasn't officially arrived yet but has been so close that one wonders how humanity will ever survive)
- Blue Highways (by William Least Heat Moon, a travel book that's about much more than the places visited, was an inspiration for a similar trip myself)
- The Alchemist (by Paulo Coeulo [sp?], my favorite non-G of w book that I teach my students, great journey through time/location/mind, with excellent development and surprise)
- Harry Potter & Prisoner of Azkaban (I have really liked almost every one of them, and like LOTR it's hard to choose but this one was dark and intricate in a good way).

I'll list my 10 least favorite later.

El Chuxter
06-27-2006, 01:08 PM
BCJ, you scare me. Not because you've read so much, but because you have no problems recalling all that you've read. :p

Bel-Cam Jos
06-27-2006, 01:45 PM
BCJ, you scare me. Not because you've read so much, but because you have no problems recalling all that you've read. :pI made an alphabetical (by authors) list, which I don't have access to right now, so it's just an exercise in memory (from the corners of my mind... :D ). You should know me and lists.

BEL-CAM'S TOP TEN TYPES OF LISTS TO MAKE:
10. Mental
9. Online
8. Historical timeline
7. To-do :sleeping:
6. List of lists :p
5. Numerical
4. Alphabetical
3. Alpha-numeric :confused:
2. Categorical
1. Nostalgic... :rolleyes: (ahh...)

Bel-Cam Jos
06-29-2006, 05:51 PM
These would be considered my 10 least favorite books I've read, not that I'd say don't anyone else read them, just that I did not prefer them for various reasons...

- Scarlet Letter (Mr. Hawthorne was too wordy, too convoluted, too dull for me... a give it a read letter A for academically forced)
- Who Moved My Cheese? (this book was supposed to change people's lives, but I found it to be so trite and simplistic that it wouldn't be effective)
- Born on the 4th of July (I know this wasn't supposed to be rosy and nice, but it was just too vulgar and base for me, it taught no lessons and made it hard to empathize at times)
- Left Behind (I read the first book and stopped there, the characters weren't believable nor did they make me connect with them, a weak plot and overly basic)
- Pomona Queen (think is a local novel set in the area where I live, a local newspaper columnist suggested it as a summer reading and it was so profane and violent that such plots distracted me from whatever its messages were supposed to be)
- Different Seasons (an anthology by Stephen King where two of the stories were great, but the other two so bad it gets this poor rating, "Apt Pupil" is the most wretched and depraved story I've ever read, I actually had to put the book down and walk away to do some other action to get my mind off it)
- Shoeless Joe Comes to Iowa (another anthology, the story that became Field of Dreams was good [which also became a separate novel], but the others fit my descriptions of Pomona Queen or Born on 7/4 above)
- The Perks of Being a Wallfower (this was a book that the school where I was teaching was considering to be taught, it was gratuitously vulgar and salacious, that it was an MTV Books publication should tell you all you need to know)
- The Natural (not the film at all, any person who tells you it's a great sports novel might have only seen the movie version, I felt no sympathy for the guy)
- Beloved (I like Toni Morrison's style and characters but this one fell flat in confusion and too-long passages)

- [extra #11] Catcher in the Rye (normally I'd probably have liked this story, but I was in a foul mood while I read it and it has affected me ever since then, but I will admit it was still too gloomy and apathetic for me anyway)

Darth Jax
07-18-2006, 10:25 PM
You should know me and lists.

BEL-CAM'S TOP TEN TYPES OF LISTS TO MAKE:
10. Mental
9. Online
8. Historical timeline
7. To-do :sleeping:
6. List of lists :p
5. Numerical
4. Alphabetical
3. Alpha-numeric :confused:
2. Categorical
1. Nostalgic... :rolleyes: (ahh...)
you really are the girlguy of 100 lists.

Rocketboy
07-19-2006, 01:01 PM
In the last few days, I have read/finished:
"The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and Clay" Michael Chabon. My new favorite book. I was actually a little sad by the time I finished it. I didn't wan't the book to end.

"A Model World and Other Strories" also by Chabon. More good stuff. Since I loved Kavalier and Clay so much I wanted to try something else by Chabon so I picked a short story book instead of Wonderboys, just in case.I wasn't at all disappointed. I like his writing style.

I started and am about half way through
"Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader." So far, not too bad. The Vader stuff is easily the best parts. The Jedi in the book are fairly boring.

Bel-Cam Jos
07-16-2008, 05:45 PM
Time to fit something I read into a thread, without creating a new one. AOL had a list (LISTS... :drool: ) of the '10 Books You's is 'Posed to Done Have Read Before Ya Kick the Bucket,' although their name didn't have as many proper grammar examples as mine :p . But here's what they chose, in no order:

10. Atlas Shrugged
10. Gone With the Wind
10. Catcher in the Rye
10. The Bible
10. Lord of the Rings (3 books?)
10. Harry Potter (7 books?)
10. Da Vinci Code
10. Angels & Demons
10. To Kill a Mockingbird
10. The Stand

I have little respect for online service providers' lists/recommendations, but I have to disagree strongly with this'n. Why?
#1: You can't choose multiple-book series, even if they were originally to be one novel; they're still seperate books. :cheaters:
#2: Sure, the DV Code was a sensation, but you CANNOT put the "prequel" novel on this list, sorry. :mad:
#3: There are just too many others that should've made the list.

Well, what would you consider to be the 10 books every person should read before they :dead: ?

El Chuxter
07-16-2008, 08:03 PM
Why would both Da Vinci Code books be on there? (Especially since TDVC sucked all sorts of arse--sorry, but it did. Worst written book I've tried to read in ages.)

Bel-Cam Jos
07-17-2008, 11:44 AM
I liked Da Code, but ignoring that, it was on the best seller list for a long time and made it into the national mindset. So I can forgive them for including it. A&D was decent, but nowhere as good/popular as the other novel.

Their list had no Shakespeare? No Steinbeck? Twain? Mary Shelley? Faulkner? Dickens? Hemingway? Alice Walker? Amy Tan? Hugo? Orwell? Uncle Tom's Cabin, Great Gatsby, Scarlet Letter, Lord of the Flies, Peyton Place, Last of the Mohicans, or The Jungle all had literary and/or social appeal. Bridges of Madison County, Color Purple, War & Peace, Are You There God It's Me Margaret? all had impact more than some of those others. Even Joyce Carol Oates, Grisham, Crichton, Jackie Collins, or Patterson sell more books. C'mon! :upset:

El Chuxter
07-17-2008, 11:21 PM
Huckleberry Finn, The Great Gatsby, Slaughterhouse-Five, and One Hundred Years of Solitude are the most glaring omissions, IMHO.

Bel-Cam Jos
05-30-2012, 01:25 PM
Like hitting your head on a library book shelf... ba-bump!

I was going through some papers I had just dumped on a desktop, and I found the Barnes & Noble printouts they include with your receipt about what other books they believe you'd enjoy, based on this particular purchase. Here's a breakdown of the 10 I found:


YOU MAY ALSO LIKE…
Star Wars Beware the Sith
Star Wars: Mysteries of the Jedi
Star Wars: The Complete Saga
Star Wars The Clone Wars: The Enemy Within
Star Wars: Battles for the Galaxy

America Again: Re-becoming the Greatness… (by Stephen Colbert)
Lizz Free or Die
The Wind through the Keyhole: A Dark…
The Ten, Make That Nine, Habits of Very…
This Is a Book (by Demetri Martin)

Star Wars: The Millennium Falcon Owner’s…
Star Wars: The Ultimate Visual Guide…
Star Wars Fate of the Jedi #9: Apocalypse
Book of Sith: Secrets from the Dark Side
Star Wars: The New Essential Guide to…

Star Wars Mad Libs (Mad Libs Series)
Ninjas Mad Libs
Cool Mad Libs (Mad Libs Series)
Star Wars: The Clone Wars Mad Libs
SpongeBob SquarePants (Mad Libs Series)

Star Wars Fate of the Jedi #8: Ascension
Star Wars: Darth Plagueis
Star Wars: Shadow Games
Star Wars the Old Republic #3: Revan

Star Wars Force Unleashed
Star Wars: The Complete Vader
The Art of Star Wars Comics: 100…

Lego Star Wars (Ultimate Sticker Book…
Star Wars: The Clone Wars New Battlefronts
Star Wars The Clone Wars: The Visual Guide
DC Comics Ultimate Character Guide
Star Wars: The Clone Wars: Secrets of…

Star Wars Fate of the Jedi #6: Vortex
Star Wars: Scourge
Star Wars Knight Errant

B&N RECOMMENDS
Dreaming in Chinese: Mandarin Lessons in…
Through the Language Glass: Why the…
Globish: How the English language Became…
A Little Book of Language

Divine Misfortune
Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter
His Majesty’s Dragon (Temeraire Series #1)
The Eye of the World (Wheel of Time…
The New Essential Guide to what? Don't leave me hangin' there, elipsis! ...
I wish I could recall which book(s) I bought that recommended those titles (I know I bought S.Colbert's I Am a Pole "kids'" book for the 2nd stanza above, and various SW books of course but I don't know the specific ones, don't know the language or Lego/DC stanzas). I actually did read/buy many of those SW titles eventually.

p.s. I might have to update my best/worst books ever read lists (LISTS... :drool: ) from in this thread.

Bel-Cam Jos
08-25-2012, 08:26 PM
p.s. I might have to update my best/worst books ever read lists (LISTS... :drool: ) from in this thread.And paraphrasing The Little Red Hen, "and so he did."


BEL-CAM'S WORST 10 BOOKS HE'S EVER READ (updated)...
10. The Catcher in the Rye
9. Who Moved My Cheese?
8. American Nerd (trying to be funny, it was bad and sad)
7. Left Behind
6. Pomona Queen
5. Born on the 4th of July
4. The Perks of Being a Wallfower
3. Different Seasons
2. The Secret by Rhonda Byrne (complete waste of time, paper)
1. Zombie by Joyce Carol Oates (it's so bad, I refuse to comment on the specifics of it; after readign it, I was actually negatively affected by it emotionally and physically for about a day later)

bigbarada
08-26-2012, 02:42 AM
I remember reading about 20-30 different Star Trek novels during my sophomore and junior years in high school. My favorite ones being:

Enterprise: The First Adventure (it had nothing to do with the TV series) by Vonda N. McIntyre
The Final Frontier (it had nothing to do with the movie) by Diane Carey
The Romulan Way by Diane Duane
Pawns and Symbols by Majliss Larson
The Wounded Sky by Diane Duane
Strangers From the Sky by Margaret Wander Bonanno (this one was about the Vulcans who first visited Earth and it was so good that the movie First Contact felt like a total slap in the face)

Other stuff:
The Bible

Chronicles of Narnia:
The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe
Prince Caspian
The Voyage of the Dawn Treader
The Silver Chair
The Horse and His Boy
The Magician's Nephew
The Last Battle

The Hobbit
Lord of the Rings
The Scarlet Letter
The Great Gatsby
Of Mice and Men
The Pearl
Great Expectations
Beowulf

Star Wars related aside from all three OT movie novelizations:
Splinter of the Mind's Eye
Shadows of the Empire (the actual novel, I never read the comics)
Tales from Jabba's Palace
Tales of the Bounty Hunters
Han Solo At Stars' End
Han Solo and the Lost Legacy
Han Solo's Revenge
The Paradise Snare
The Hutt Gambit
Rebel Dawn
Heir to the Empire (although I don't remember actually finishing it)

That's really all I can remember off the top of my head.

Bel-Cam Jos
08-26-2012, 10:26 AM
Going off of BB's list (LISTS... :drool: ), some of those look like school-assigned novels. What do you remember "having to" read in middle or high school (maybe elementary or college, too)? Off the top of my head...

ELEMENTARY SCHOOL ASSIGNED READING
Call It Courage
Island of the Blue Dolphins
Call of the Wild

MIDDLE SCHOOL ASSIGNED READING
The Outsiders
Robinson Crusoe
(I can't recall others, but we read lots of short articles/excerpts/watched film versions :( )

HIGH SCHOOL ASSIGNED READING
Grapes of Wrath
Julius Caesar
The Stranger
King Lear
Red Badge of Courage
Great Expectations
Macbeth
Portrait of Artist as Young Man
Under Milkwood
Canterbury Tales
Hamlet
Black Boy
Invisible Man (Ellison)
Adventures of Huck. Finn
Heart of Darkness
The Awakening

COLLEGE ASSIGNED READING
Glass Menagiere
1984
All King's Men
Question of Hu
Things Fall Apart
The [something] of Martin Guere
Sea and Poison
Seven [something] Tales
Doctor's Wife
The Jungle
Lakota Woman
Samarkand

bigbarada
08-26-2012, 02:38 PM
Yep, a few of those were junior high and high school assigned reading.

Other books that I was assigned to read were:

James and the Giant Peach
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory
Travels with Charlie
MacBeth
Romeo and Juliet
The Cycle of the Werewolf (by Stephen King)
Animal Farm
The Grapes of Wrath? (maybe... we might have just watched the movie)

I don't remember much about the books I was assigned to read in college. They were mostly short stories or essays. My English 101 professor was a radical Feminist, so most of the stories she assigned us were in that vein. We definitely did read A Modest Proposal by Jonathan Swift, which of course is an essay, not a book.