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Phantom-like Menace
07-05-2006, 02:48 AM
I figure given the lack of a thread for this show thus far, the general opinion of it is low, but not so low as to warrant a thread about how much it sucked. I can't say my opinion of it is too high, but I'm hoping it will get better.

I guess one glaring problem is Kirk Jones as Blade. Say what you will about Wesley Snipes, I think he was awesome in the role. I think if I had to elaborate on my problem with Jones, it's just that he does a bad Wesley Snipes as Blade impression. I don't think I'd have as much trouble seeing this guy as Blade if I could tell myself he was bringing his own style to the role, but in trying to hard to get the part exact and failing, it jars a tad.

This first episode had the standard problem that comes with pilots. It was just boring to set up the story, and it was even more boring for people who already have the idea from the movie trilogy who have to sit through the whole Vampires-trying-to-create-daywalkers retread.

I'm trying to think to myself what type of character would best replace Whistler as the story device through which information is passed to the characters and audience. One played by Randy "Cousin Eddie" Quaid doesn't come to mind.

Aside from the fact that Krista Starr sounds like the name of a porn star, I'm curious why they didn't make this character a cop. She apparently used to be a sargeant in the military, I know, but they really should have had her return to Detroit and join the police. That would at least make it more acceptable that she pulls a gun more often than I can remember. Someone, somewhere is going to make you check that at the door . . . unless you have a badge. Otherwise, Jill Wagner, the actress playing Starr gets my obligatory "At least she's eyecandy," though they couldn't get her out of the Hanes cotton casuals until the second half of the show.

I'm not too fond of Blade's new techie, but then he really hasn't done anything either. Of course the only good thing about Scud from Blade II was that he was played by Norman Reedus of The Boondock Saints fame. It sure would be nice to have Whistler.

So, hmm, I really couldn't come up with a lot of good so far. Umm, since it airs so late, they didn't have to tone down the violence to kiddie fare?

Again, I hope it gets better. Some version of Blade III Hannibal King (as opposed to comic-accurate) or Abigail Whistler would be nice since Blade III was written almost exclusively to sell those two characters. That and King was a smart-***, and I loves me a good smart-***.

JediTricks
07-05-2006, 04:23 PM
I was not surprised by this thing, it was disappointing and that's what I expected. The chick becoming a vampire and staying that way was the only interesting part, and she herself wasn't even remotely interesting, it was just that plotpoint. Sticky Jones is indeed doing a very bad imitation of Snipes, some of the sounds but none of the attitude, and he moves real oddly. This feels to me like another Highlander: The Series - except without the eventual fanbase - nobody was interesting, the action wasn't very good, the setting sucked and reeked of Canada, and the bad guys were too all-over-the-map. I may follow it for the summer simply because there's so little else on, but I won't expect much, especially from such a crappy Blade character.

darthvyn
07-05-2006, 11:12 PM
meh... it's alright. i'll watch it to see if a: sticky gets more comfortable making the role his own, and b: the plot gets a little tighter... it was entertaining, but not fantastic. and i loved all three of the movies...

Rocketboy
07-05-2006, 11:46 PM
I also thought it was just OK, not great.
I'll give it a few more weeks.

shammykenobi
07-06-2006, 12:13 AM
I thought the dude had Blade's voice down pretty well...but here's what I don't get...if you want to make blade bald, fine, make him bald...but changing his tatoo's?!?!?! the tattoos this dude has are completely different than the ones in the movie...now how can you explain away such a hole in continuity like this?

Phantom-like Menace
07-06-2006, 08:09 AM
the tattoos this dude has are completely different than the ones in the movie...now how can you explain away such a hole in continuity like this?

Blade may be a henna freak.

Well, checking the DVR, I see there is another episode. Let's see if this is better.

JediTricks
07-06-2006, 04:04 PM
Last night's ep was more interesting, but of course Blade is barely in it, which is probably for the best since Sticky Jones completely misunderstands the character he's playing I fear, whenever he takes off his sunglasses his eyes tell the wrong story, like he's overly intense and awaiting something rather than experienced and determined. The show kinda reminds me of Kung Fu: The Legend Continues, and Robocop: The Series, some interesting twists with secondary characters and storylines, but the lead isn't really in it enough because they know how much the audience expects from the original versions. I think they need to really figure out how to get more out of the Blade character, and how to get Kirk Jones to stop imitating another performance and find a cooler, more world-weary way to play the character, but this show has enough potential to keep watching during the summer.

I totally agree about Blade's new tats, they seem all wrong.

Hellboy
07-06-2006, 09:28 PM
I enjoyed the first two Blade films but thought the third installment was terrible so I was pretty skeptical as to whether I'd enjoy this series. Still I gave the pilot episode a chance but had to throw in the towel after the first hour or so. The acting and dialogue were horrendous, especially the female lead. :stupid: I won't be giving this series a second chance either.

Phantom-like Menace
07-08-2006, 01:23 AM
whenever he takes off his sunglasses his eyes tell the wrong story, like he's overly intense and awaiting something rather than experienced and determined.

I think you're on to something there. I definitely was thinking he should keep his shades on. Has anyone seen the Friends episode where Joey was saying one of his tips for acting is to look like he smells something bad?

I watched the second episode finally. So snorting vampire remains makes you high and strong? I thought ash was slang, not actual ash. I'm sick almost to death of the one-fanged vampire cop already. He wore out his welcome fast as far as I'm concerned. It mostly seemed like nothing happened in this episode. I guess the most interesting part is that something is fishy with Aurora. Still needs Whistler. Still not impressed. Still giving it a chance though.

El Chuxter
07-08-2006, 01:27 AM
Whistler's dead in the movies, right? I can't remember. They should get Willie Nelson to play a sidekick on the show, since he's the only man who can fill Kris' shoes. Well, living man.

Phantom-like Menace
07-08-2006, 06:07 AM
Yeah. Whistler blew himself up in the third movie along with a bunch of FBI agents who were trying to apprehend Blade. Willie Nelson would be a welcome addition to almost anything.

JediTricks
07-08-2006, 02:58 PM
I think you're on to something there. I definitely was thinking he should keep his shades on. Has anyone seen the Friends episode where Joey was saying one of his tips for acting is to look like he smells something bad?That would be 'Smell the fart' acting. :p I can't get over Jones' delivery yet, I'm hoping instead of getting used to it he'll just stop sucking ;), but the rest of his performance is in his body language, and I think he gets that wrong in both the eyes and the general stance.


So snorting vampire remains makes you high and strong? I thought ash was slang, not actual ash. Yeah, they mentioned it in the pilot but really delivered something here with it, giving yet another faction for everybody to think twice about.


Whistler's dead in the movies, right? I can't remember.Yeah, he got iced twice. I hated that they killed him in the first movie, but understood it - how they treated him in the second movie though... that was friggin' wrong, and I guess he died early in the 3rd movie, I dunno as I refuse to see it.


Somehow, I can't see laid-back Willie Nelson in an action-vampire story. :p

BountyHunterScum
07-12-2006, 09:45 AM
Yall forgot how the 1968 Charger died with Whistler. I refuse to watch this garbage, I saw a few mins of it and it bored the hell out of me.

darthvyn
07-13-2006, 10:44 AM
Yall forgot how the 1968 Charger died with Whistler. I refuse to watch this garbage, I saw a few mins of it and it bored the hell out of me.

that's assuming this series takes place after the movies - which i doubt at this point. the actor playing the lead part seems younger than snipes, he's still in detroit, and he's still got the charger. there are still vampires around (if you saw the third movie, there's a vampire plague released that can kill all vampires around it...) and he's still using the serum needle gun, not the inhalers from blade:trinity.

i believe this is set BEFORE the movies. last night's episode was pretty good. i think i'm coming around to this series... mostly i think the reactions are bad because snipes was SO cool as blade in the movies, and this guy is trying too hard. but i feel it'll be a fun series. i'm going to stick it out for a bit longer.

JediTricks
07-13-2006, 04:13 PM
My guess is that the series takes place after Blade 1 but before Blade 3, maybe even before Blade 2.

Last night's ep was interesting, but I felt not as good as the one before simply because almost nothing happened, and we got that sad-eyed Fed agent (I hate that actor, he plays everything so sincere it makes me want to vomit). Still, it kept me engaged enough. Kirk Jones really needs to find a non-fake voice to portray this character with though, everything that comes out of his mouth sounds so flat and clipped like he's trying to do an imitation. His body language also tells the story of an imitator, it's driving me nuts.

Phantom-like Menace
07-14-2006, 12:35 AM
This third episode was the best so far, but let's make sure it's known I don't mean it was especially great.

I thought the investigation into the failed, earlier experimentation was interesting, though I would have liked a more interesting clue than a scalpel left somewhere (I don't want to know where) in a vampire patient.

Also, JT, while your take on the G-Man is dead on, I prefer him several times over to the Detroit cop who became a wacky road-tripping vampire. I hope he gets to Detroit just in time to be a punchline, staked by Blade at the city limits.

I'm still annoyed that the series couldn't do any better than the plot of vampires trying to make themselves immune to their weaknesses. Talk about a group who should be playing on their strengths not harping on their weaknesses.

JediTricks
07-14-2006, 05:06 PM
Vampires have a pretty stupid system overall, run into a room and scare the crap out of everybody, grab the one guy stupid enough to trip over his own feet and feast on him, then the villagers revolt and kill you. The Ashers though, that's pretty interesting, they have a much more nuanced situation going on and they play it more nuanced, the prey has become a superior predator.

Phantom-like Menace
07-14-2006, 10:43 PM
Vampires have a pretty stupid system overall, run into a room and scare the crap out of everybody, grab the one guy stupid enough to trip over his own feet and feast on him, then the villagers revolt and kill you.

Well, that last part's where it really falls apart. Before that, pretty standard predatory behavior. Thanks for making me laugh, though.

JediTricks
07-15-2006, 03:57 AM
That's what I'm here for. :D

Blanket predatory behavior is for animals, these are human beings capable of formulating complex strategies, and patience, and cunning... all of which turns into "BOO!!!" boogeyman tactics once you become a bride of Vlad, apparently. What is that anyway, hope they have a heart attack from the scare and die right there?
"Bleaaah!!!"
"Aaargh nooo! URK!"
"All right, another one we don't have to chase, let's dine before he starts to stink."

Phantom-like Menace
07-15-2006, 07:20 AM
Nah, the vampires in Blade have a rather sophisticated system in the form of their blood harvesting facilities, and I'm sure they'll think little of snacking on their familiars. The aforementioned simple predator behavior is more like playing with one's food. Think of it as cow tipping for vampires. I'm sure a whole discussion of the pschology of vampires can arise from the observation that "fun" for them is acting like base predators.

Actually, I'd watch this show with nothing but positive comments if vampires stole into people's rooms, shoved them off the bed and ran away laughing all Count von Count style.

JediTricks
07-15-2006, 02:17 PM
For "fun" they seem to get staked an awful lot. :p

Phantom-like Menace
07-16-2006, 05:45 AM
Agreed, but how many humans die in the course of chasing a thrill?

JediTricks
07-16-2006, 02:48 PM
Not as many, percentage-wise. ;)

Phantom-like Menace
07-22-2006, 02:21 AM
Well, I only just got around to watching Blade Friday morning, and I've been busy all day, so it's early Saturday morning that I'm finally able to share some thoughts.

I have to say I actually found myself enjoying this episode. Everyone--even Shen--had something to do and those somethings were interesting. I've always liked bringing out the skeletons from reformed bad guys' closets, so I enjoyed being reminded Blade wasn't always our hero. Noted is the fact that Kirk Jones didn't really have to act in this episode just hiss a lot, so that may have helped. They managed to get Jill Wagner way out of the Hanes cottons this episode, and that's not a bad thing. Oddly my favorite moment with her this episode though was at the cafe when the little girl seemed to sense she was a vampire. It was a nice way of reminding her in a way that mattered to her that she was no longer human.

Did anyone get a good look at the name of the book? I hate trying to read old type, but it looked like Geschichte der milden Bluts. I don't know that I read it correctly because I can't make much sense out of that. My first reaction is that it means Stories of Mild Blood. The problem there, though, is that doesn't seem to work grammatically, so I figure I misread.

Tycho
07-30-2006, 03:58 PM
I'm watching the series marathon that's running on Spike right now.

It's keeping me hooked, though I agree with some of the statements here saying that Kirk Jones plays a very strong, silent type of character.

The blonde is also intriguing as well as the brunette girl who I haven't seen enough of in her Victoria Secrets yet. :love:

She has pretty good special effects :D

Blue2th
07-30-2006, 04:01 PM
Right Now? Guess I'l put the PIP on my computer. I like this series!

Tycho
07-30-2006, 05:12 PM
Yeah, I'm still watching it. I guess I missed the start. I think Direct TV starts on EST or CST, and I forgot and tuned in around 12 PST and it'd already played the first 2 episodes or so. Grrrrr. But I've spent the day watching it. It's a commercial right now.

You know it gives me pause wondering if a girl I invite home with me one night might turn out to be a vampire.:hurt:

Blue2th
07-30-2006, 07:36 PM
Yeah, I'm still watching it. I guess I missed the start. I think Direct TV starts on EST or CST, and I forgot and tuned in around 12 PST and it'd already played the first 2 episodes or so. Grrrrr. But I've spent the day watching it. It's a commercial right now.

You know it gives me pause wondering if a girl I invite home with me one night might turn out to be a vampire.:hurt:
Yup, Only caught the last two. The Blond gets fried. She's coming back in the next episode all crispy. What's up with the little girl pure-blood? She wasn't turned so she can't stay that way like Interview with a Vampire......... Unknowingly bringing a Vampire home wouldn't be bad as long as she didn't suck you dry (no not that) As long as you were turned instead of killed. I would love to be a Vampire and live forever. Oh the misery and bliss!

Tycho
07-30-2006, 07:52 PM
I thought about being a vampire too. I don't know if I'd want that or not. Between different Hollywood takes on vampirism, there seems to be some discrepancy on what it actually means to be a vampire, as well (being like a ghoul or turning into a bat or wolf, or other demon, possibly even smoke). Then there's the sunlight issue, the reflection in a mirror, etc. Not to mention wondering what a vampire really looks like? Dust, a corpse, how they appeared when they died, or any age they want?

The little girl pureblood is a mystery of the same kind: if she was born a vampire - how does that happen? Was her pregnant mother killed, along with her, and the still-born child "reanimated?" If so, does she just age really slowly, or why doesn't she appear like an infant? Could she ever "grow up?" In Interview with a Vampire, the little girl was bitten and turned when she was a child - she was not a Pureblood - which might be possible, however slim the chance - but seems to be only contrived for the purpose of this series. Maybe the girl's mother was turned while she was pregnant? Would a vampire still be able to deliver a child? Now is Blade himself "not a pureblood" because he was born alive and has not yet died, hence he can be a DayWalker? I need some help figuring this out here.

JediTricks
07-30-2006, 10:52 PM
I thought the pureblood girl ages more slowly because she was born a vampire and they age slowly, and that it's Blade's unusual situation that gives him normal age development.

I am so sick of Chase at this point, she is such a 1-note character and played so much cheesier than anybody else in the series (which is really saying something :p). I was all impressed when she got char-broiled, getting rid of a character that they were building the audience into like Fritz, I figured if the fire didn't destroy all her flesh then the exposure to sunlight would, but a few minutes later it dawned on me that they were going to bring her back and claim that building coming down kept the sun out. That ep really felt like it was supposed to be a larger story arc all by itself, it was fun but the planning was nil and ultimately the extraction came and went too quickly.

Rocketboy
07-30-2006, 11:11 PM
I'm still watching the show, but I'm still not really into it.
And I'm thinking they should retitle the show "Krista featuring Blade." At least she's hot.

Just thinking...they may have to kill that girl (on the show of course). If she isn't suppossed to age, or if she ages really slow, I don't see they can keep the character for more than 2 maybe 3 years (if the show even lasts that long) before the girl gets too old unless they recast the part.

On a side note, the chick that plays Krista, Jill Wagner was the hot chick in the Mercury car commercials that ran a while ago.

JediTricks
07-30-2006, 11:30 PM
Yeah, I knew she was a Ford spokesperson, I wonder how they got her nose not to look like it ended in a cleft chin though. :p (her nose from some angles is really freaky weird)


I suspect the House of Chthon will have a few shakeups by the end of this season that'll get the little girl out of there.


Show should be called "Everybody but Blade" or "Blade's Buddies" or "Remember Blade?"

Tycho
07-30-2006, 11:46 PM
Good advertising on Jill Wagner's part. She makes me want to buy a Mercury!

Is she related to Lindsey Wagner? (The Bionic Woman, aka Jammie Summers?)

Maybe that's how she got the job? (Her daughter? hmmm)

Meanwhile, no one's told me what does it mean to be born a vampire?

1) a child is rescued from the womb of a mother who was killed by a vampire

2) a child is born to a mother who was turned by a vampire into another vampire

3) the child is killed in the womb, and the corpse of the child becomes a vampire

4) something else.

Which is Blade again? How is the PureBlood little girl different from him? Why is Blade a Day Walker and she is not?

I think Blade is #2 above, as demonstrated by the first movie. Perhaps the girl is #3?

In any event, why would any other vampire waste their resources on an infant or toddler vampire? I don't know how often they must feed, but unless a murder rate is hugely disproportional for certain areas, it must be really dangerous and arouse much suspicion.

Phantom-like Menace
07-30-2006, 11:50 PM
I didn't see a whole lot to comment on in this most recent episode. I didn't dislike it, and I didn't like it. I too figured Chase was gone and wouldn't have missed her. It doesn't help her case for me that my friend immediately compared her to the Orbit Gum lady. Everytime I see her I think, "Smashing!" Tycho, if you're looking for more skin (and why wouldn't one be), she definitely goes that route this episode.

The movies aren't very clear on the idea of purebloods. Nyssa is described as a pureblood in the second movie isn't she? Well, her father was a human who had been turned. I originally assumed a pureblood could trace direct blood descent from the original vampires on both the mother and father's sides. I suppose a pureblood must be any vampire who is born of a vampire. I don't know whether genetic rather than fluid transmission gives them any inherent advantage or wether it is simply a status thing. I'd assume a bit of each. So with the girl from this episode, I imagine her age is simply retarded and that she will mature whereas if she had been born a human and bitten as a young girl she would permenently look like a young girl just like in Interview with a Vampire.

Phantom-like Menace
07-31-2006, 12:00 AM
Meanwhile, no one's told me what does it mean to be born a vampire?

1) a child is rescued from the womb of a mother who was killed by a vampire

2) a child is born to a mother who was turned by a vampire into another vampire

3) the child is killed in the womb, and the corpse of the child becomes a vampire

4) something else.

Which is Blade again? How is the PureBlood little girl different from him? Why is Blade a Day Walker and she is not?

I believe Blade is number 1. His mother carried him to term and was in the process of delivering him when a vampire (Deacon Frost in the comics) fed on her and killed her but the child survived the mother's death. In the comics, Blade was only given a couple of slight abilities. First and foremost he was immune to vampirism--he couldn't be turned. Second, he had a sixth sense that allowed him to track vampires. In the movies, it instead gave him all of the strengths of vampires with none of their weaknesses. Biologically speaking, this would simply be fluid transmission just like if Blade had been directly bitten, but in the world of comics it was viewed as neither fluid nor genetic but a bit of both. I suppose some mystical reasoning could be brought into play, but certainly the movies go out of their way to make it a more scientific process.

Edit: Though thinking about it, I vaguely remember Frost bringing his mother in, so I guess the movie did make it number two, like you said, Tycho, but the effect would reasonably be the same as in number one assuming simple fluid transmission.

Tycho
07-31-2006, 12:12 AM
Phantom-Like Menace, you're talking about Chase in one sentence, then the brunette (Jill Wagner's character, forgot her name for a sec) in the next.

The brunette is the one who goes bare-naked into the blood bath.

Chase is the blonde, right?

Meanwhile, I still don't understand what a PureBlood is, nor which Blade is: his mom was a vampire in the movie. What continuity is the TV series using?

In the movie, his mom died and then came back as a vampire.

Blade is alive, right? He's not supposed to be amongst the walking dead?

Blue2th
07-31-2006, 01:36 AM
I think to be a real pureblood they would have to trace their lineage back to the original vampire Nosferatu and be born one as PLM said. But to keep their blood line pure I wonder if there was alot of incest (yuk) kinda like the Russian Czar and his family trying to keep the blood line pure and ending up with hemophiliacs. (Or Adam and Eve's sons and daugters for that matter) Vampires probably wouldn't have that problem. That's the only explanation I can think of, but I would like to know also what makes a pureblood.

Phantom-like Menace
07-31-2006, 02:09 AM
Phantom-Like Menace, you're talking about Chase in one sentence, then the brunette (Jill Wagner's character, forgot her name for a sec) in the next.

Yeah, that'll happen. Sorry.


The brunette is the one who goes bare-naked into the blood bath.

Chase is the blonde, right?

Right on both counts.


Meanwhile, I still don't understand what a PureBlood is, nor which Blade is: his mom was a vampire in the movie. What continuity is the TV series using?

In the movie, his mom died and then came back as a vampire.

Blade is alive, right? He's not supposed to be amongst the walking dead?

Bear with me, I'm not clear on most of this too.

Blade doesn't factor into the pureblood versus turned crowd. He's neither human nor vampire. As he says in the movie, he's "something else." You just reminded me a person has to die to be turned. I'd forgotten about that.

Some of this is just rehash and all of it is speculative on my part: Vampirism in the Blade movies is biological, much like in Underworld. There are two ways to transmit the affliction: genetic inheritance and fluid transmission. Genetic inheretance does not require that you die to become a vampire. Fluid transmission requires death of the body for the change to occur. Genetic inheretance either has real, inherent benefits or simply social benefits and a person whose vampirism was inherited genetically would be considered a pureblood. Any vampire that was born human and turned through the fluid transmission and death is considered tainted. Fluid transmission either has inherent weaknesses or social negatives.

As for Blade, I'm having trouble remembering how the first movie presented the sequence of events (I actually didn't like the first movie, so I've only seen it once). Frost definitely bit Blade's mother before he was born, but I don't recall if she died before he was born or if she died afterward. I'm fairly certain she only became a vampire after he was born. But it doesn't seem too important whether or not she was a vampire at the time or merely carrying the genetic material since all she would do either way is pass the material on through the umbilical cord.

I'd guess to make some biological sense, Blade was probably born more or less normal and developed vampire characteristics. My logic there being that children are more genetically malleable before reaching puberty and maturity (this same idea I guess is behind the notion that Marvel mutants only begin exhibiting powers at puberty). The process in pureblood vampires begins at the fertilization of the egg, but Blade's began far later and was an incomplete process. The result is that he displays human characteristics (most notably he can walk in the daylight hence Daywalker), and he displays vampire characteristics. So basically he is a failure to become either a vampire or a human, but it came with serious benefits.

So in summary my theory is: A pureblood vampire is a vampire who was exposed to vampirism early enough in gestation to be born fully as a vampire. All other vampires were modified by vampirism after death. Blade, the Daywalker, developed for the first nine months as a human only to have incomplete vampirism modify him as he developed postpartum. If that theory is what the movie scribes had in mind, I would assume that any prepubescent child bitten by a vampire would become a daywalker if not allowed to die.

Does any of that make sense, or am I just babbling?

Maybe there is more in the commentary of the movie or behind the scenes stuff, because I am more or less talking out of my rear. The comic is more straight forward. He doesn't really have many vampire traits and doesn't become anything like the movie version of Blade until he's bitten by Morbius.

As for what continuity the series is following, it is a direct continuation of the movies and follows that continuity. I bring up comics to fill in blanks where they aren't contradicted by the movie.


I think to be a real pureblood they would have to trace their lineage back to the original vampire Nosferatu and be born one as PLM said. But to keep their blood line pure I wonder if there was alot of incest (yuk) kinda like the Russian Czar and his family trying to keep the blood line pure and ending up with hemophiliacs. (Or Adam and Eve's sons and daugters for that matter) Vampires probably wouldn't have that problem. That's the only explanation I can think of, but I would like to know also what makes a pureblood.

If Nyssa was considered a pureblood in the second movie, and her father was born a human and turned, that contradicts that thinking, and at the beginning of this conversation I thought the same thing until I remember Damskinos was not born a vampire. We know from Blade: Trinity that pureblood doesn't imply an untainted strain of vampirism passed down from an orginial source because Dracula's vampirism is quite different from other vampires. He can walk in the sun and actually comments on the tainted nature of later vampires.

Tycho
07-31-2006, 02:36 AM
It's interesting because Dracula opens up a whole new vein - pun intended.

I'm so funny....anyway....

Dracula was Vlad Dracul, otherwise known as Vlad the Impaler who fought the Turks in the Crusades. (to remind us of Lebanon / Israel today :rolleyes: )

Another take on it was Dracula was actually Judas and he attempted suicide for betraying Christ, but God did not allow him to die or even go to Hell for that matter. His punishment was to become a non-human (Vampire) walking in this world. Judas lived out many lives under different names, including Vlad Dracul's.

His legacy is that of those he's turned.

Phantom-like Menace
07-31-2006, 08:03 AM
Has anyone noticed she's wearing the same style of clothing in the ads and in the series before she started vamping it up in the series (what I referred to before as her Hanes cotton casuals)? I figure she just walks in in those clothes, wardrobe takes one look at her and goes, "Okay, I like it."

Blue2th
07-31-2006, 08:10 AM
Some of this is just rehash and all of it is speculative on my part: Vampirism in the Blade movies is biological, much like in Underworld.
Speaking of Underworld, the two Vampire girls visited the House of Lychan. Only they weren't Warewolfs.




If that theory is what the movie scribes had in mind, I would assume that any prepubescent child bitten by a vampire would become a daywalker if not allowed to die.


That would fly in the face of traditional thinking, like Interview with a Vampire where the little girl stays little, yet is killed by the sun along with her new mommy. If that's what you mean. It would also mean it would be too easy to make a Daywalker. It's probably what they are trying to do with the pregnant girl.

El Chuxter
07-31-2006, 08:35 AM
I just realized that you were calling him "Sticky" because he was Sticky Fingaz in Onyx!

HOLY CARP!

Does he tell vampires to bacda***up, because da Blade is here, bacda***up, dey'd betta bacda***up?

Does he slam the vampires, dun dun na, dun dun na, make noise be boys?

Is he looking for the b**** a** bootlegga m*****f***** vampire selling his tapes?

Tycho
07-31-2006, 11:21 AM
OK, by Hanes cotton casuals, do we mean bra and panties? Alright then!

Sticky Fingaz played Kern Little on The Shield, as well as a soldier in Over There.

So far, I think his performance on The Shield was his best. I wished they didn't take Kern out so cheaply.

Phantom-like Menace
07-31-2006, 11:24 AM
That would fly in the face of traditional thinking, like Interview with a Vampire where the little girl stays little, yet is killed by the sun along with her new mommy. If that's what you mean. It would also mean it would be too easy to make a Daywalker. It's probably what they are trying to do with the pregnant girl.

Treating vampirism as a virus blitzes tradition, so we don't have to look to that.

Basically, my thinking is if a vampire were to bite, say, a five year old girl, then kill her, she would become the standard turned vampire and not age beyond five. However, I wonder if that same girl were bitten and did not die whether or not she would begin to exhibit Daywalker abilities around puberty. The only reason I figure this would be likely is because I see no difference in transmission of vampirism along the umbilical to a nine-month old baby in the womb and transmission through a bite or injection just after birth. Is there a major biological benchmark between birth and adulthood other than puberty as a likely cut-off point after which a child couldn't become a Daywalker?

As far as making Daywalkers, making Daywalkers is easy. Just follow the steps that made Blade and you have a Daywalker. The problem is that won't help all of the vampires who are already vampires. They're trying to make themselves Daywalkers, which is a little more problematic.

Edit: By Hanes cotton casuals, I refer to her standard mode of dress that tends to remind me of the selection of daywear put out by Hanes.

Phantom-like Menace
08-03-2006, 05:24 AM
I'm not sure whether or not we were supposed to feel sorry for Chase, but I've never been able to get all worked up for someone when they are expected to heal completely in a few days from severe burns over 100% of their body. Kind of an okay episode, but next week's looks kind of cool.

It looks like we'll be getting the answer to my speculation about whether Blade gradually begins to show Daywalker traits since we'll see flashbacks to when he was young. We'll also see a young Whistler, so that'll be cool I hope.

Blue2th
08-03-2006, 07:28 AM
Yeah, she was steaming crispy. Funny how she grew back that bottle-blond hair. Or maybe she just dyes her eyebrows? Maybe we will find out one day what the pregnant girl fluid was for? Next week looks pretty good though. A little history of Blade.

Rocketboy
08-03-2006, 12:02 PM
Next week is the first time I'll actually be looking forward to a new episode. Looks like it could be the best episode yet.

Tycho
08-03-2006, 03:05 PM
By next week, do you guys mean this week? I get Blade on Wed...

oh shoot! I missed it. It's Thursday today! Dang it! Does the new episode re-run? Anyone?

JediTricks
08-03-2006, 03:47 PM
Tycho, it reruns Sunday-into-Monday at 2am, and Monday evening at 10pm - if you're planning to tape it, make sure you tack on a few extra minutes at the end as Spike's scheduling often runs late.


I thought this week's ep was pretty good, almost no Chase and Blade barely says anything, coincidence? ;) Chase's hair regrowth was really stupid, and apparently she also regrew her breast implants since we saw that burned up nude shot and they were gone, yet back by the end. :p Stupid damn Spike put on a promo for the ep DURING the show (they were advertising that it was on again right afterwards) and showed the last scene where Krista is all chewed up, that was a cool scene (the promo didn't give away that her hand was missing, that was awesome) and they gave it away early.

Tycho
08-03-2006, 03:52 PM
Thank you for the info JT. I'll have to watch it live. I've had it on my back-burner to learn how to video tape with Direct TV - I don't believe I have TIVO but don't really know how those things work. I'll just figure out how to use my VCR eventually - but my remote controls were all packed away when my uncle moved me out of my old place, and I haven't found them yet. I'm using Universal remotes to operate my VCR and DVD player.

JediTricks
08-03-2006, 04:28 PM
Aren't both of those past your normal sleep time though? I use a universal remote to program both of my VCRs, the trick is to figure out which buttons activate which features - it's usually pretty simple, just follow the menu options, plug in the start time, end time, date, channel, and tape speed. I believe DirecTV has a similar programming option as well. Good luck.

Tycho
08-03-2006, 05:50 PM
Aren't both of those past your normal sleep time though?

Last night I couldn't fall asleep until 4am and woke up at half-past noon today. My sleeping pills (Lunestar) have run out and my doctor wanted to see if I can survive without them. I don't know the answer to that yet. I was speaking to an old best friend I hadn't talked to for at least a month and that got me pretty wound up and happy, so maybe I wasn't able to hit the sack like I usually would about midnight. So if I don't readjust by Sunday evening....Blade.

Also, with Direct TV, I tend to get stuff 3 hours early as it all seems to run at EST. So If Blade is on at 2am in New York, I'll see it at 11pm here and that will be just fine on Sunday night (as long as it doesn't give me nightmares).

BTW: since when do Vampires growl like werewolves? Was that in the original Blade movies? I forget. But it keeps reminding me of the growling shark in Jaws 4. Sad, huh?




I use a universal remote to program both of my VCRs, the trick is to figure out which buttons activate which features - it's usually pretty simple, just follow the menu options, plug in the start time, end time, date, channel, and tape speed. I believe DirecTV has a similar programming option as well. Good luck.

Figuring out which buttons activate which features is the part I've come up against a brick wall with. I used to be able to program my VCR with my old remote. With Direct TV, I can use their remote to select my TV tunes into a certain channel at a certain time if the power is on - other than that, I don't think I have TIVO service. Since I usually only watch 2 shows: The Shield (13 episodes abouts in January for which I have friends over for viewing parties) and Smallville - I don't really struggle to tape anything. I seem to prefer watching movies from the 1980's to 1990's, LOL (especially my Civil War and Western ones).

Blue2th
08-03-2006, 07:10 PM
Hey Tycho, You're turning into a Vampire and you don't even know it. Are you sure you didn't bring one home?:grin:

Tycho
08-03-2006, 07:15 PM
LOL - Blue2th. I didn't even think about it that way. No I'm not sure I didn't bring one home!

darthvyn
08-03-2006, 08:13 PM
well, even though i said i'd be keeping up with this show, i haven't - partly because my cable box is on the fritz, but also partly because i just don't care. i've been out of the habit of watching tv for so long, i can't be arsed to tune in.

Tycho
08-03-2006, 08:18 PM
It's hard to watch TV during the summer - your body is not used to it.

Tycho
08-07-2006, 02:45 PM
I caught the new show that I missed last week on Sunday night's rerun.

I don't have too much to say about it other than I really enjoyed it and am getting more and more into this series.

I was actually taken by surprise that the pregnant girl just was incubating fluid in her instead of a baby. I was ready to see a monster come out of her, but the writers actually pulled a surprise out of their hat which tripped me up, along with Blade and the rest of the characters - although Marcus probably knew what was up.

Speaking of Marcus, I'm getting impressed with his character.

By the way, I'm waiting anxiously for the big guy that's the body guard for the Pure Blood girl from the House of Cthon to actually say something. I wonder if he's a vampire, and what kind? His character actually evolving could be pretty interesting. He does "The Rock" thing with his eyebrow sometimes. Uh-huh.

Hmmm. I do have a few things to say. Notice how the producers like to take attractive women and bloody them up, mutilate them, or have other characters beat on them? It's funny that Marcus seems to be the most chilvalrous character on the show, and the hero has no such manners of course. But did they cut Krista's arm off to make it look like she had a run-in with Blade? Wow! That was taking it pretty far. Of course she'll grow a new arm back I suppose.

I still had not seen the very first episode as I tuned into the marathon late. I wonder if it explained the origins of vampires (like the first one) and how the houses evolved - why there are 12 of them, coincidentally the same number of Jesus' deciples and Mohammed's Caliphs. And what would they do if the population of Vampires exceeded their "food supply" one day?

Furthermore, that one dude said he served his country since the Civil War (haha). What is it like for Vampires to find new identities, have resources to continue living, and experience the growth of technology - like cars and planes to cell phones? Add on to that, do Vampires want to contribute to society such as using their long lives to improve Windows XP or something like that - for its own intrinsic value, or definitely for the money?

JediTricks
08-07-2006, 08:38 PM
The first ep does not explain any of what you ask, not even a little, in fact it kinda expects that you've seen the first Blade movie - hell, it does a poor job of introducing us to Krista and she's the main character!!! :p

Yeah, they really cut off Krista's hand and scarred her eye! If you haven't seen or don't remember the first Blade film, one of the main vampire's men has his hand destroyed by Blade and it slowly grows back throughout the film, the House of Chthon has advanced medical techniques so Krista's hand should grow back even quicker.

I think Vampires on this series are generally too selfish to help better mankind, plus the smarter man gets, the more they'll become a threat to the Vampires. That "vegetarian" house is probably the only one that might help better humans.

Blue2th
08-09-2006, 10:27 PM
Tonight's episode was a good one. Got to see Blade's history. Lot's of nice little tidbits. You got to see where he got his sword and perhaps his training from the Japanese man. How Whistler got his limp even. The Little girl Vampire scene with the infant was way too creepy!

Tycho
08-09-2006, 11:16 PM
Tonight's show was awesome!

They covered so much ground. Krista turning her mom and next week's showing the consequences will be very interesting.

I never knew Blade's name was Eric.

So that's how Whistler came into the story? It would also be interesting to tell his story.

Chase will be naked next week?:love:

Do you think Blade's dad will reappear?

Also, how Blade "was made" was answered: his mom was bitten while pregnant, but infected though not killed at that time.

If Frost killed Blade's mom later - so she came back as a vampire in the first Blade movie - then it was after Blade was born.

Presumably, Blade's never died. So that's why he's half-human. For the obvious reasons, he's also half vampire.

It wouldn't have been on-subject, but the episode didn't define PureBlood for me and what makes them.

Drones are simply folks killed by vampires who return as new vampires.

So that answers what a DayWalker is, what Vampires are, but I'm still unclear on how you create a PureBlood and why that girl (the leader of the House of Cthon) is still a child even though she's probably hundreds of years old?

Blue2th
08-10-2006, 12:17 AM
We also got to see that Blade's Dad owned a blue Dodge Charger presumably before Blade got it and painted it flat black. I thought an oddly funny scene in the Blade #1 movie they showed just before the TV show was when Whistler was filling the Charger up with gas and spilling it all over the place, and lighting up a cigarette at the same time while talking, and they all acted like nothing was wrong.

Rocketboy
08-10-2006, 02:37 PM
Also, how Blade "was made" was answered: his mom was bitten while pregnant, but infected though not killed at that time.That was answered in the first movie.

JediTricks
08-10-2006, 05:12 PM
I'll be honest, I thought that episode totally sucked, easily my least-favorite of the series so far, until the last few minutes all the acting was crap and the action was way too cheesy. The stuff between Blade and his dad at the end was the only part I thought worked. The kid going after the criminals looked absolutely ridiculous. The story was flat and I kept wondering how the villain knew all this stuff about Blade's past - who to track down and where - when he and his gang didn't find little Eric until afterwards. And how stupid is Blade and his buddy to use ultraviolet motion sensorts knowing that vampires can see UV? (I am also pretty sure motion sensors use IR, not UV.) There was far too much convenient "what" and no "why". Almost the whole thing felt remarkably disposable.

darthvyn
08-10-2006, 05:26 PM
That was answered in the first movie.

so was the "pureblood" thing - a vampire born a vampire, not a human turned into one...

Tycho
08-10-2006, 07:01 PM
so was the "pureblood" thing - a vampire born a vampire, not a human turned into one...

In other words, a dead-girl, who is already a vampire, can still get pregnant?

Rob Zombie's music starts playing in the background...

Blue2th
08-10-2006, 07:56 PM
In other words, a dead-girl, who is already a vampire, can still get pregnant?

Rob Zombie's music starts playing in the background...
I would think that's how baby pureblood Vamps are born. So the bloodsuckers can have sex to propagate. Or if they choose, make someone a Vampire. What choices! They can also choose to be Gay Vampires like the Antonio Banderras character in Interview with a Vampire.lol

Tycho
08-10-2006, 08:12 PM
Are they False-Gay Vampires, or True-Gay Vampires?

Wouldn't a straight male vampire choose to only suck the blood out of female victims? And vis versa?

In my own vampire nightmares, the vamps are always girls I'm seeing.

But how the heck would a Vampire (a dead girl) conceive? I mean wouldn't her eggs be long dead (as also a male vampire's sperm?)

Does it take two Vampires to reproduce a PureBlood?

Or can a Vampire breed with a infected or non-infected human?

I guess it can be whatever Hollywood decides to make it.

Blue2th
08-10-2006, 09:24 PM
Being Actors they probably were False-Gay Vampires unless?.... I seem to remember in Ann Rice's book the character being gay, and an underlying hint of this throughout the book...I don't think a Vampire's sexual preference would matter as bloodlust knows no bounds.... Why does a Pureblood grow up to adulthood and a turned Vampire gets frozen at the age they are bitten?....BTW, have you ever seen or bought that Marvel Studios 13" Blade a few years back? It was very hard to get and very well done. It's one of my favorite figures.

Phantom-like Menace
08-10-2006, 10:56 PM
I thought the episode was okay. I think my favorite part was when young Eric broke Whistler's leg. Yeah, I usually don't go for that cheesy sort of stuff, but given that Whistler obviously loved Blade like a son, it has a sort of poetic comedy that his very first meeting with him involved Blade's crippling him for life.

Tycho
08-11-2006, 12:37 AM
I didn't see the Blade figure you mentioned Blue2th.

My collecting (modern) went like this:

1992: started with Playmates Star Trek Next Generation because the figures reminded me of how I used to collect Star Wars. I stuck with Star Trek through to today when ArtAsylum and DS run the license.

1995: Star Wars came back. You guys know that story.

I planned to stop there as two lines kept me busy enough - and sooner than later, Hasbro did sub-lines with Star Wars (first 12", all the way through Unleashed, and a move to SideShow)

20??: The McFarlane Terminator 2 / 3 stuff looked really good to me and I couldn't resist.

2003: Transformers Alternators finally got me to return to Cybertron again.

So that's enough. I've been tempted by military lines, POTC, once did Voltron stuff, etc. but now I control those urges. I value the time when I'll collect nothing actually.

PLM: nice irony you were able to point out there about Whistler. Thank you!

Phantom-like Menace
08-11-2006, 12:53 AM
I forgot to mention some tidbits we got this episode.

Daywalkers are common enough that Whistler knew immediately what Blade was and was able to explain how he came about and what the outcome would be. His line about how, in time, Blade will develop all of their strengths without their weaknesses jives with my theory that he would grow into his powers.

I was pleased to see that it "took a village" to raise Eric. It would have been cool to see Taka have a more significant role more like the cop. While we got the idea from seeing him pick up the katana, we could have gotten a little more "this is your life" as Taka taught the boy the beginnings of meditation and control. I'm a little annoyed the katana was displayed with the cutting edge up instead of down, though.

I'm really not surprised that Krista decided to turn her mother. I've seen that coming for a while. And I won't be surprised if they have to kill her to stop her from feeding. The same thing happened with Spike on Buffy the Vampire Slayer, but I imagine Buffy did it better. I still laugh at that episode . . . well, I laugh at most of them still.

JT, I thought the same thing you did about UV motion sensors, that maybe they might want to go with something vampires couldn't see. However, motion sensors are not limited to IR or UV.

Blue2th
08-11-2006, 07:24 AM
So that's enough. I've been tempted by military lines, POTC, once did Voltron stuff, etc. but now I control those urges. I value the time when I'll collect nothing actually.


Boy Howdy! I'm all over the place! Though I have narrowed it down to maybe 8 different things because I had to (no room) or the line is no longer made (Star Trek 12," GI Joe 12") ........Funny You say "control those urges." I can relate to a Vampire's bloodlust. Is there a serum for collectors insatiable appetites?

Tycho
08-11-2006, 02:44 PM
Is there a serum for collectors insatiable appetites?

No, but there are addict support group meetings in everyone's areas. The trouble with them is they meet at Wal-Mart at 6:45 am, and Target at 7:45am and frequently prescribe pseudo-medication, like Hot Wheels (cheaper and less space-consuming for a collection). This leads from "PlasticFetish" to Die-Cast Addiction as a side-effect. The Surgeon-General warns that Die-Cast Addiction lasting longer than 15-20 years may be dangerous, could stunt your growh and impede your sex life, and you should consult a physician if you are experiencing such longterm effects.

Blue2th
08-11-2006, 11:09 PM
Pseudo medication would be a False-Cure. I would rather remain a Vampire- I mean collector. Besides anything like that would be temporary and soon you would have the thirst again, and again, and again! :grin:

Tycho
08-12-2006, 12:03 AM
I think I stand in True-Agreement with you Blue2th.

JediTricks
08-13-2006, 02:18 AM
JT, I thought the same thing you did about UV motion sensors, that maybe they might want to go with something vampires couldn't see. However, motion sensors are not limited to IR or UV.Well, invisible motion sensors I know of are limited to IR, UV, and heat - which I'm not exactly sure would work around vampires in this series.

Tycho
08-17-2006, 01:23 AM
Tonight's episode was great: you got to see Chase's butt. That'll make buying the season 1 DVD worth while by itself.

They killed a pure-blood with Aurora and something else they mixed with it.

They also said a pure-blood was born a vampire. I guess that pureblood dude was hundreds of years older than the junior girl that runs the House of Cthon? A person is not born a mature adult - they couldn't be born then.

So the question remains, is Blade a pureblood? Why is he different than the other purebloods? His mother was infected but apparently not killed before she gave birth. She was killed later, right?

Are purebloods delivered after their mothers are killed and then reborn vampires? In other words, does the baby die in the womb and come back biting? Blade has never died yet though, right? That's why he's a daywalker.

I think I got it or I just made up a bunch of stuff that led me to the wrong conclusions.

It was cool to see what happened when Krista tried to turn her mom - and I learned that a vampire has to be started on Blade's serum fast, before they feed too much, or they cannot be cured by the serum, supposedly. Her mom didn't give them much of a chance. It was predictable, yet powerful, that Krista would be the one to finish off her mom.

So the FBI guy knows for certain that he's dealing with vampires? But he just didn't come out and say it. He said Martin wasn't human. He's pretty stupid about going there, to the House of Cthon, and meeting Van Skiver. He could have been killed right there in Martin's office at their first meeting. I guess Martin wasn't hungry? I've never seen him "Vamp out" either. I guess the preview for next week shows that's going to happen.

Anyone like vampire sex? Why was Chase's blood red when she slit herself on her chest? Vampire blood is supposed to be black - it is in other scenes on the show.

JediTricks
08-17-2006, 03:29 PM
This ep had some interesting stuff going on, and a good manipulation by Marcus and Chase. The FBI guy's reaction to all that was kinda subdued though. Blade cutting off the uncle's head was awesome.


I just watched the first Blade movie the other day, this crap about victims needing to die to be turned is something they made up for the show, in the movie Whistler makes it quite clear anybody who is bitten can turn into a vampire after a few hours - they're worried about Karen turning and she never died. Whistler makes the point of saying there's a good chance she can be cured if they get to her in time, but they don't so he tells her to kill herself, instead she - being a blood scientist - creates a more effective cure. Blade's mother did die giving childbirth but she came back afterwards, however that had nothing to do with her becoming a vampire, rather her being infect is what saved her from death.

Also, the show made up the stuff with Whistler coming to Blade's father first, in the movie Whistler says he found Blade when he was 13 living on the street feeding off homeless people.

Purebloods are mentioned in the movie, they are born vampires and age more slowly but all vampires do age, because purebloods were born vampires they have it in their DNA, people who are turned like Karen are merely infected and quite possibly can be cured (the show seems to conveniently overlook this, along with the discovery of what the blue hemoglobin liquid [not Blade's serum, which is red] does to vampires - it makes them blow up), Karen also tells Blade he can be cured which will take away all his abilities but he CHOOSES not to take it so he can continue hunting vampires (the motivation is implied) - being able to cure him continues the idea that he's "something different", he's not exactly infected but he's definitely not a pureblood, if he had vampirism in his DNA at all he couldn't have been cured.

Rocketboy
08-17-2006, 03:39 PM
Chase's butt - best moment on TV all year. Totally made up for missing last week's episode.

I still think they should change the name of the show to "Krista featuring Blade."

Tycho
08-17-2006, 04:57 PM
Purebloods are mentioned in the movie, they are born vampires and age more slowly but all vampires do age, because purebloods were born vampires they have it in their DNA

OK, how is someone born a vampire? They are the progeny of a vampire and a human, of two vampires? What? If (could) Chase got pregnant by that pureblood that they killed? Then would she give birth to a new pureblood? Could she? Chase is "un-dead" actually. If not, are we talking about an infected mother carrying a child to birth? Blade's mother died giving birth or from giving birth - thus Blade was born alive. Is a pureblood born "undead?"

This is still not clear. Who cares for a baby pureblood? Is Chase in motherhood the next step for the show? Sort of like a vampire Martha Stewart?

I agree with Rocketboy on the show title btw. Very funny: Krista Featuring Blade. :thumbsup:

JediTricks
08-17-2006, 05:01 PM
They didn't say in the movie, but I believe it only takes 1 parent - either parent - to create a pureblood fetus, the DNA will get into the baby's genetic makeup either from the mother or the father. With the rarity of purebloods, it makes you wonder if it's very difficult for vampires to conceive in the first place.

Tycho
08-17-2006, 05:06 PM
Is the human parent then bitten? Can a vampire fight off the urge to bite a human he or she cares about? (Well I guess because Martin didn't attack the FBI agent).

Phantom-like Menace
08-17-2006, 11:13 PM
I'll let the series get by on having Whistler meet Blade earlier than stated in the movie. I figure after Blade runs off, Whistler finds him on the street later.


Well, invisible motion sensors I know of are limited to IR, UV, and heat - which I'm not exactly sure would work around vampires in this series.

Since we're dealing with an active system rather than a passive system, it could be any form of the invisible spectrum as long as there is a beam that makes contact with a receiver until the beam is broken.

I did however think of a logical reason they would use UV. Sure a vampire could detect it if he or she looks closely enough, but if he or she didn't check, the UV beams will incinerate the vampire. UV seems to be a slightly better choice in my mind now that I thought about that.

Otherwise this latest episode was okay. I'm not a big fan of Chase either as a character or as eye candy, but she does have a nice caboose. There were absolutely no surprises with the mom.

Blue2th
08-17-2006, 11:33 PM
So Chase going to Vegas to buy a casino was just a set-up to get the Pureblood the whole time. Quite an interesting twist to the story, we only found out about near the end. That was good.

JediTricks
08-18-2006, 02:21 PM
Is the human parent then bitten? Can a vampire fight off the urge to bite a human he or she cares about? (Well I guess because Martin didn't attack the FBI agent).I dunno if they go Black Widow on them, we've seen they DO have the ability to hold back, but after a while together I would think "the thirst" would become too great.



I did however think of a logical reason they would use UV. Sure a vampire could detect it if he or she looks closely enough, but if he or she didn't check, the UV beams will incinerate the vampire. UV seems to be a slightly better choice in my mind now that I thought about that.Yeah, but Krista's a newbie and immediately picked their security apart, any more experienced Vampire is going to be hip to it.


Chase was actually trying to buy a strip club, not a casino, but yes it was a well-crafted setup to snare them a pureblood without any of the houses knowing they took him.

Tycho
08-18-2006, 02:38 PM
Wasn't Krista's pureblood "boytoy" an exile from his house? I take it that there are more than 12 Purebloods, but 12 of them run the 12 houses.

And there are either 13 houses in actuality, or 11 of the 12 are in a loose allegiance with one another.

JediTricks
08-18-2006, 05:41 PM
There are 12 houses, and each has "sub-houses" if you will, it's like the mafia in that way, the Blade DVD explains that movie's house with all its factions, each one is represented at the table in the movie. There are more than 12 purebloods out there, at least 120 if each house has 10 chairs (I believe that's the number) and there are others out there as well besides those in charge of the houses.

I'm not sure how this rogue house thing works, maybe Chthon gets a second seat at the big table instead of Armya.

Tycho
08-18-2006, 05:58 PM
The show demonstrates some serious disadvantages to being a vampire:

silver, garlic, sunlight, all can kill you - with no real logical reason why (except that it's part of vampire lore) - however, Dracula 2000 presented the theory that Judas was actually the first vampire, and he hung himself for betraying Christ - but God would not let him die. The silver he is forbidden, as are all vampires, because that was the medium of payment that Judas took to betray Christ. That's a cool explaination.

This begs the question why are werewolves fended off with silver though? Maybe a vampire bit a wolf, and then the wolf bit a man? That's the easiest way I can explain it.

Anyway, it seems like a martial arts stud like Blade, armed with silver laced weapons, plus vampire senses, can wreck havoc on the whole vampire nation rather easily.

If he knows about the House of Cthon, why doens't he just walk through the front door and "ash" them all?

Blue2th
08-18-2006, 06:55 PM
Dracula 2000 presented the theory that Judas was actually the first vampire, and he hung himself for betraying Christ - but God would not let him die. The silver he is forbidden, as are all vampires, because that was the medium of payment that Judas took to betray Christ. That's a cool explaination.

That's the best explanation for the origin of the first Vampire I've ever heard. It almost makes me want to believe they exist. Judas then went out to make his own twelve tribes or houses to mock God? And he would live off the sacred life blood. He would be damned by God as "Anyone eating blood, his soul I shall ask for as payment for his sin" And that's why Vampires walk the earth with out souls........... What I am wondering is when were Vampires associated with bats? Was it before or after the discovery of actual Vampire bats in South America? I don't think any of that type of bat existed in Europe where the stories of Vampires started. I'm sure there is an explanation, or not!?

Tycho
08-18-2006, 07:09 PM
Vampires were first associated with bats when they bit baseball players. But steroids in the blood were found to disagree with those vampires. :lipsrsealed:

Phantom-like Menace
08-19-2006, 01:02 AM
Yeah, but Krista's a newbie and immediately picked their security apart, any more experienced Vampire is going to be hip to it.

Bah, nine out of ten of the background vampires would have fallen for that with a quick, silly line before incinerating. Plus, we really don't know Krista didn't know they were present.:razz: I still agree with you that I would have used something they couldn't see.

When did bats get mixed up in vampire lore? Good question. I usually try to blame most of vampire lore on Stoker, but that's just me being lazy.

Remember, though everyone, while we can make a sizable list of things that can kill vampires, that list pales in comparison to the size of the list we can make of things that can kill anyone else.

Daz
08-19-2006, 12:39 PM
In the last episode I'm fairly sure Chase's would-be suitor said he was from the house Erebus ie the house that Deacon wiped out in the first film, if this is so and they will be referancing the films one wonders is their a possibilty of seeng Stephen Dorff as Deacon Frost in flashbacks with his fellow pure blood killer Marcus cutting a swath through Europe Angel and Spike style.:D

I hope we begin to see a few more shades to Blade because at the moment he's the least interesting part of this show (well besides Shen), "Sticky" Jones seems to have taken his lead on how to play the character from Blade Trinity where a disgruntled Snipes gave a rather one note performance.

Tycho
08-23-2006, 10:28 PM
Dang Blade rocked tonight! The show made Martin a sympathetic character and I loved seeing him kick Dominic's arse!

They did some really cool 'back in the 1800's footage' for this episode and I understand Krista's sympathy for him.

Rocketboy
08-23-2006, 10:30 PM
Looks like Blade might actually have more than a cameo next week.

Blue2th
08-23-2006, 10:51 PM
I'm starting to like the character Marcus. I can see his motivation for wanting to kill the Purebloods now. Though does he just want revenge or power or both? It should make for some tasty episodes to come. An interesting scenario when "the enemy of my enemy is my friend"....I think that phrase has been used alot in movies.

Rocketboy
08-23-2006, 11:28 PM
Found a cool article about the series and great news on the DVD set:

Blade's Detroit connection
It's not a coincidence that Spike TV's Blade: The Series is set in Detroit.
And, no, it's not because there are real vampires in Detroit.
The real reason is because two of the key creators of the summer-debuting show -- based on the three live-action movies featuring Marvel Comics' vampire hunter -- are from the area.
David Goyer, who wrote all three Blade films and developed the television series, grew up in Ann Arbor before going to film school at USC and becoming a highly successful writer and director in the film and TV world.
Geoff Johns, a writer and consulting producer for the show, grew up in Detroit and went to Michigan State University. He's probably best known for his comic-book work, currently on DC Comics titles Green Lantern, Action Comics, Teen Titans and the upcoming Justice Society of America.
Both now live in California, but they can't forget the Motor City.
"We just thought it would be cool to have Blade be from Detroit," Johns said. "And because Blade is such a kick-*** character."
Such landmarks as Joe Louis Arena were mentioned early in the season and now, as the 13 episodes wind down, there are actual images of the city in the show. A second unit spent time in Detroit earlier this year shooting footage.
Goyer, who also wrote last summer's Batman Begins, and Johns worked together on DC Comics' JSA title, so it wasn't a surprise to see them collaborating on another project.
The stage is much bigger this time. Blade is Spike TV's first original drama, receiving a major push from the cable network devoted to men all summer and drawing some 1.6 million viewers a week.
Blade: The Series picks up after the movies as the vampire hunter -- now played by rapper Kirk "Sticky" Jones -- returns to his hometown, where the House of Chthon, one of 12 vampire cultures, has set up shop. There, he teams with his tech guy Shen (played by Nelson Lee) and war veteran Krista Starr (Jill Wagner), who was turned into a vampire by Chthon's British bad guy Ethan Van Sciver (Neil Jackson) and now works from the inside for Blade.
Much more than the films, the series focuses on the vampire culture, with the different houses sort of like crime families, as well as Blade's past and origins. Viewers need not see any of the films to understand the series. However, the TV show is serial in nature with story pay-offs on a weekly basis.
"Requirements for a TV show are different than the movies," Goyer said. "It's a serialized story and it's all about the long rollout. Hopefully this is something that's going to last five or six years. There are a lot of twists and turns we're going to take with Blade and all the other characters."
Being on Spike has allowed the producers to make Blade very edgy for television. And while the show's budget won't allow it to match the action of the feature films, there's been plenty of mayhem in recent weeks.
"The episodes get exponentially bigger and crazier, action-wise and with visual effects," Goyer said.
And it will get even more intense when the episodes are released on DVD, Goyer noted.
"We've been shooting R-rated stuff and the idea for the DVDs is that it will be bloodier and have more nudity and be more foul," Goyer said. "We have been cognizant of that since the beginning, so every time you see a script, there will be a clean version and an R-rated version."
Despite a record-setting start for Spike TV and positive reviews, the series had not been picked up for a second season as of this writing. Goyer, Johns and company have already started discussing more episodes, though.
"We'd like to get some more Marvel characters," Johns said. "Moon Knight would be great and we've talked about other characters like Baron Blood."
"I don't know if we can pull off a Moon Knight costume on TV very well, but we can try," Goyer said. "We have an interesting take on him should he show up."
Even with the television series, Blade's future in feature films is not dead, Goyer noted. In addition to more Blade movies, a Nightstalker film with Ryan Reynolds and Jessica Biel reprising their Blade: Trinity roles hasn't totally been ruled out. And there's an animated version of Blade that's been discussed.
"But the show right now is what's driving everything else," Goyer said. "Right now the movies are taking a back seat to the show."
So it looks like Blade might be in Detroit for some time to come.http://info.detnews.com/comicsblog/index.cfm

Tycho
08-24-2006, 01:04 AM
Wow. So if we buy the DVDs we can see Krista and Chase naked?

SOLD!!!

The strip club scenes will probably show more as well.

They probably hire actresses who were strippers or escort girls in the first place and coach them on acting. Thus it's easier to get them in a bloodbath porno than it would be for producers to film "Luke and Leia's conception scene" with Natalie Portman. Though I think there's another thread about her doing a nude scene now (for some movie - forget which).

This Blade DVD news is very cool indeed. Now I don't know how much more they can turn up the gore compared to where it already is. Perhaps they'll show the leader of the House of Cthon (the girl) eating that baby? There's one for the Pro-Lifers, hehe.

Anyway, I also hope the show is picked up for another season. Anyone know what episode they're on now? 1-13?

Rocketboy
08-24-2006, 10:32 AM
Anyway, I also hope the show is picked up for another season. Anyone know what episode they're on now? 1-13?Last night's episode ("Angels and Demons") was episode 10 (of 13).

http://www.bladetvseries.com/ seems to be a good fansite for the show. Sadly, the site has no screencaps of episodes (especially of Chase last week).

JediTricks
08-24-2006, 05:51 PM
Dang Blade rocked tonight! The show made Martin a sympathetic character and I loved seeing him kick Dominic's arse!I dunno who "Martin" and "Dominic" are, but Marcus sure did kick the crap out of Damek. :p Here's the thing I think is funny, now Krista feels all sympathetic to Marcus, but every "turned" vampire is likely to have a similar story, it doesn't mean they're not monsters.


Sucks to hear Spike hasn't picked up the series for a second season, I'm not surprised though, 1.6mil viewers is pretty small even for cable (though Spike is a bit of a low-end channel at this point).

Tycho
08-24-2006, 08:43 PM
When will they make a final decision on the second season?

FX didn't pick up another season of the Iraq War show "Over There," with Sticky Fingas as well. Kirk Jones is having bad luck I suppose. I hope it changes for him. He's been in some good shows, though I hate how The Shield cheaply took out Kern Little (Jones' OG character). They could have done him more justice on that show as he played a great part.

Phantom-like Menace
08-25-2006, 01:16 AM
I hope the show continues. I've given it a lot of "meh" reviews, but my mehs have been getting steadily less heartfelt and I've not missed an episode.

I did enjoy this most recent episode. I'm of the group that says Marcus' being a good guy one hundred years ago doesn't mitigate the fact that you might want to punch a large silver object through his body.

It is, however, cool to see that Marcus is essentially trying to play everyone. If you've got to be bad, you might as well be really bad. I wonder what the purebloods want Chase for. Interrogation? Nookie? (Thought I'd throw that last in for all you Chase fans.)

Rocketboy, I thought the best part of your post below was the part about bringing in other Marvel characters. Moon Knight would be cool, and I wonder if they'll bring in werewolves when they bring him in. Remember, Krista asked about werewolves and Randy Quaid said that's Mark Spector's area of expertise. Mark Spector, for any who don't know, is the secret identity of Moon Knight.

JediTricks
08-25-2006, 02:40 AM
FX didn't pick up another season of the Iraq War show "Over There," with Sticky Fingas as well. Kirk Jones is having bad luck I suppose. It doesn't help that he's not a particularly good actor. :p


BTW, I just remembered something that bothered me about this week's ep, there Shen and Blade are in the sewer when they hear someone coming, Blade goes to intervene yet the plan ends up being "let the guy radio something might be up, let him find Shen, give him plenty of time to radio in again, then drop down in a sloppy manner killing him noisily not 2 feet from where you were standing previously, and pray nobody upstairs wonders what happened to the guy who radioed in with a possible problem."

Daz
08-25-2006, 12:24 PM
Found this on IGN



Speaking of what's to come in the second season, Goyer promised a war between the vampire Marcus' House of Cython and the House of Erebus, which the villain Deacon Frost belonged to in the first Blade film. As for ever seeing Frost himself again, Goyer simply replied, "It's not impossible."



Marcus and Cthon certainly will have their hands full next year what with the war with Erebus(presumably over the wacking of Chases pureblood ex) and the war with Amyra that will surely kick off when they find out Marcus dusted Damek.

Rocketboy
08-25-2006, 02:05 PM
Rocketboy, I thought the best part of your post below was the part about bringing in other Marvel characters. Moon Knight would be cool, and I wonder if they'll bring in werewolves when they bring him in. Remember, Krista asked about werewolves and Randy Quaid said that's Mark Spector's area of expertise. Mark Spector, for any who don't know, is the secret identity of Moon Knight.Yeah, I thought that was a pretty cool idea also.
I'd also like to see the Nightstalkers return. Granted, that would be next to impossible unless they recast. I doubt Reynolds and Beil would do it (maybe for BIG money, which would probably be more than the show could afford). And if they had to recast, then forget about it.

Phantom-like Menace
08-25-2006, 05:32 PM
Yeah, I forgot to mention the Nightstalkers. That is pretty cool. It's too bad Blade Trinity was turned into Abigail Whistler and Hannibal: The Movie. I think everyone would have been better served if they had each gotten their own movies with Nightstalkers being introduced in Trinity. I watched Blade Trinity for Blade. I would have happily turned to a Nightstalker movie for Whistler and Hannibal.

"It's a new flavor-crystal formula. Twice the chocolaty goodness, half the calories. Plus it helps prevent tooth decay. There, I said it."

I'm just silly enough that that type of goofiness tickles the ole funny bone. And it's never a bad thing to watch Jessica Biel. But of course they would recast. Actually, the Blade series could use the occasional laugh that isn't provided too infrequently by Shen.

Tycho
08-30-2006, 11:22 PM
Tonight was pretty nasty: I can't believe Blade ripped that vampire's jaw off. That was awesome!

There's not too much to say about the episode for me. It was entertaining. Chen got a little bit more character development and some action. That's about it. The FBI guy wasn't in the entire episode for a first I think. It looks like he'll be doing a lot next week though.

Anyway, the show was pretty good.

Next.

Rocketboy
08-31-2006, 03:57 PM
Wow, nice to see them actually focus on the Blade again.
I like the way it was, for the most part, a stand alone episode.

JediTricks
08-31-2006, 10:06 PM
I thought it was an interesting but kinda flawed episode, I wanted a lot more insight into the serial killer vampire (there is 2 seasons worth of plot threads in that guy, hunting him down and learning about his past) and I wanted the cliched plot points to die horrible deaths (oh, we have 2 doors for Krista, but when we leave we make sure the outer one is WIDE open for no reason except to make a cheap ending that got telegraphed anyway; the rapist guy somehow magically isn't even involved with the serial killings, he's just the world's most convenient non-character ever) and I wanted the extra focus on Blade to have a better actor playing the character because he finally let down his guard and came off like a punk street tough with no real direction to what he's playing. Oh, and how many times is Blade going to get his gear stripped away by the villains? That was the WORST this time, and I think they did it right up-front like that to let us know they know it sucks - btw, when you're Blade and you wear crazy paramilitary equipment and a long coat, don't you think you could carry some gear in your POCKETS?!? Chase's meeting with Charlotte was interesting right up until we got to the meat of that storyline, then it went into snore-mode.

Blue2th
09-02-2006, 07:31 PM
I'm a little late posting but: I liked the part where the scarecrow vampire gets his jaw ripped off. That alone was worth watching this episode. They could have developed the charachter more as JT said though. Chase is quite the vixen. She's good at playing both sides, even though she really does what Marcus wants, you really don't know it till the plot developes. Charlotte needs to die for babies blood being her favorite drink. Looks like she might in the next episode.

Rocketboy
09-02-2006, 11:26 PM
Geoff Johns, a supervising producer of Spike TV's Blade: The Series, told The Continuum that the season finale will be titled "Conclave." "I co-wrote the last episode with (David) Goyer and Dan Truly," Johns said during a signing at the Canadian Fan Expo on Saturday. "It's a story with a lot of big twists and turns. And people get hurt."
"Conclave" is scheduled to air on Wednesday, Sept. 13.
Spike TV has not announced whether it will renew Blade for a second season. Johns told The Continuum that a decision probably will not be announced until after the season finale.http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0609/02/index.htm

Phantom-like Menace
09-02-2006, 11:49 PM
I rather enjoyed the episode myself. It was good to see Shen do quite a bit, and it was good to see Krista not take so much of the spotlight (though it's always good to see Krista). Bethany was quite a little cutie, especially with the glasses.

It was a waste to kill the White Prince so soon, but he definitely was a fairly cool one-shot baddie.

As for the date rape drug guy: huh? Maybe I didn't follow events clearly but comments above lend credence to the idea that it didn't make any sense. Are we to believe she was slipped a mickey and taken to be the sacrificial thrill for a mad vampire all in the same night? Wow, bad neighborhood. I wasn't surprised in the slightest that the bartender was a familiar, but I figured they were both familiars. It's not like they have a limit.

That's a couple of good episodes in a row.

Tycho
09-06-2006, 11:14 PM
A lot of spoilers follow...

So they hyped up a Lesbian moment between Chase and Krista, but it was hardly that. They're both attractive ladies, but their "action" together wasn't what the preview cracked it up to be. That's not why I watch the show anyway - though it couldn't hurt. :D

A lot of people died though:

Charlotte to name the most important - Blade whacked her good!

Did he leave behind the bodies of the victims they fed on at the crash site though? Won't they turn? I guess Blade took care of the two campers off screen because it wouldn't be like him to leave them to rise again.

The FBI guy! Whoa. Well there goes Collins. I guess he wasn't dead yet (as a human) so he didn't ash when Blade staked him. Is he going to die and then turn to ash? Since they didn't show that, is he going to come back somehow?

Thorne - he actually spoke 2 lines! That was a cool battle between him and Blade, but Blade is quick and he never appealed more than as a lumbering thug, albeit a well-dressed one. But I wasn't sure he was a vampire before, and not a familiar.

Speaking of familiars, I like the way Van Skyver found a way to twist that one guy around who wasn't complying by threatening to kill everyone else he cared for.

Next week's the Season Finale! With 3 of the best recurring characters killed off in this 2nd to last episode, I wonder what will be in store for us?

BTW: on Saturday, starting at 11am PST (that's 2pm EST, 1pm CST) SPIKE is running another Blade marathon - this time the last 6 episodes including tonight's. Bleed for it and feed on it!

Oh - and anyone think that some of the action tonight resembled "Night of the Living Dead" or something? And I didn't see child-vampires Blade or Collins should have been acing. Did they feel that would be "too Columbine?"

Phantom-like Menace
09-07-2006, 05:27 PM
Blade's on a roll as far as I'm concerned. Yet again I liked the episode.

Collins shined just in time to die. It's a shame I was actually starting to like him this episode. I kind of figured he would become a regular. I don't care how much he missed his daughter, he should have shot Charlotte in the leg or something and apologized later if she turned out to be a scared little girl.

I'm surprised Charlotte was taken out. It's never easy to find kid actors who are any good, and while the actress playing Charlotte shouldn't expect an emmy or anything, she did fairly well. It was nice to hear her bodyguard talk for once, and it was a cool fight that took him out.

I hope the finale is at least as good as these last few episodes.

JediTricks
09-07-2006, 08:01 PM
I thought this ep was essentially filler, and Blade's acting gets worse and worse as he's given more lines. The ep really never explained why Charlotte and her bodyguard survived a bomb going off in the girl's hands or the firey plane crash, the plot should have killed them right there and ended that storyline early. The rest was background stuff with Krista back in Chthon which was ok but could have been played in a matter of minutes. Collins' death was pretty much worthless, they built a character up slowly and then finally get to the meat of the character and he's pretty much a nothing who is gone in the blink of an eye. I also wasn't feeling it with the action, it was sloppy and bland. All in all, essentially a distraction, I didn't care for it.

Blue2th
09-07-2006, 09:16 PM
Did he leave behind the bodies of the victims they fed on at the crash site though? Won't they turn? I guess Blade took care of the two campers off screen because it wouldn't be like him to leave them to rise again.

I think Vampires drain the blood completely from some victims to feed and they don't turn. But how would Blade know this? unless he sensed it being a Vampire. If they leave some blood in or even regurgitate (eew) some blood back in the victim they turn into Vamps like they did in the school for some protection......................It's too bad they killed off the detective. He could have been a potentially good character to build on. Even though Charlotte was dispicable, she had possibilities. Maybe they are kinda wrapping things up because there might not be a second season.

Phantom-like Menace
09-08-2006, 12:21 AM
All in all, essentially a distraction, I didn't care for [the episode].

Do you get the feeling sometimes we're destined to be on opposite sides of any given argument?;)

I'm always curious when a bland, nothing character is introduced, does nothing, isn't interesting then does some really cool stuff just in time to die. I wonder if he was intended to do more and as the writers worked, they realized they didn't have anything to do with him, so they killed him off. Or, did they write him in specifically for this episode and were lazy, thinking to themselves they would just pencil in the occasional scene for him until they were ready for him?

JediTricks
09-08-2006, 03:24 PM
I think especially since Buffy the Vampire Slayer came along, writers of "cult following" shows write in characters intending to be there for a short while just so the writers can then pull the rug out from under the audience by killing that guy - Joss Whedon of Buffy says he likes doing that, it gives the audience a feeling like nobody is safe, but to me it's become a cheap ploy by other writers since they don't give those characters enough actual rounding out. Collins in Blade, they never explained why he was on the hunt at all, his wife and kid were killed by a regular maniac not a vampire.

Tycho
09-08-2006, 06:12 PM
Nah, Collins looked at the vampires like they were serial killers (and they are).

That is why he obsessed with hunting them.

He was really manipulated by Charlotte however.

Anyway, as far as having characters inserted just to change them, twist them around, and kill them? Our beloved Star Trek mastered that as well:

"Mike the Maquis" on Voyager. (I think that was his name)
Michael Eddington on Deep Space Nine
Gul Damar even

and there were many more - though with the exception of some of Voyager's characters, the DS9 bunch were developed and used really, really well by superior writers.

Phantom-like Menace
09-08-2006, 06:17 PM
I think especially since Buffy the Vampire Slayer came along, writers of "cult following" shows write in characters intending to be there for a short while just so the writers can then pull the rug out from under the audience by killing that guy - Joss Whedon of Buffy says he likes doing that, it gives the audience a feeling like nobody is safe, but to me it's become a cheap ploy by other writers since they don't give those characters enough actual rounding out. Collins in Blade, they never explained why he was on the hunt at all, his wife and kid were killed by a regular maniac not a vampire.

I almost made the Buffy comparison. Of course the biggest difference with Whedon is he writes characters from the beginning with the intent of making you like them, then gives them something even more awesome to do just before killing them. So, yeah, as you pointed out, too many writers don't put in the work early on and you're left thinking, "Meh."

Rocketboy
09-08-2006, 10:47 PM
There is a mini-marathon of Blade: The Series tomorrow.
It starts at 2pm and runs until 7, IIRC.

Tycho
09-09-2006, 12:46 AM
There is a mini-marathon of Blade: The Series tomorrow.
It starts at 2pm and runs until 7, IIRC.

Right. Remember those of you with Direct TV or strange cable or satelite companies: you need to check at 11am if the shows are running because sometimes they operate on Eastern Time.

(of course if you're on the East Coast, just ignore that).

Tycho
09-13-2006, 11:06 PM
That was a great season finale. About what I expected though. Everything is reset for the next season if the show is renewed. If it is, (and I hope so), I'll watch!

Still the main characters were left very much intact, though Chase's alliance might be changed by next season.

But who knows? Marcus might allow both women back into his inner circle anyway - just because he focuses more on what he wants, than what's best for his plans.

Did anyone think they were "going Star Wars" with the sword duel? I mean it was great, but still.

Rocketboy
09-13-2006, 11:13 PM
Good finale, but I don't see why they ended the season like that unless they knew there would be a second season (or a tv movie or something to wrap things up).
I was glad there was very little of that vampire growl thing. Its so cliched and people always look stupid when they do it.



And the way a certain scene was edited, I've got a feeling we'll be seeing a lot more of the naked chick on the table on DVD.

Tycho
09-13-2006, 11:42 PM
And the way a certain scene was edited, I've got a feeling we'll be seeing a lot more of the naked chick on the table on DVD.

That was an excellent use of a female character in the series for exactly what they're good for.

Blue2th
09-14-2006, 08:34 AM
The season finally was great! The blood in the seringe and fingernail torture scene kinda made me sqeemish, but I still couldn't look away. I hope we see more of Blade the series.

JediTricks
09-14-2006, 10:24 PM
Season finale was good, Blade started actually feeling authentic towards the middle even. Watching Chase smash down the stairs, Marcus getting trapped, lots of fighting, a few cool lines (Blade's "cake" line, "only if this is the gun that doesn't work", "going down"), some decent fight scenes, Shen's torture and Krista's broken hand, the architect's reward from Marcus and from Blade. Pretty good overall. Of course, not perfect...

Why would Charlotte let herself get blown up? Chase is on her side and knows there's a bomb in the sword. Could have sent the plane up without Charlotte, faked her death.

I hate when shows like this have something that they've determined doesn't happen - in the Blade universe, even though everybody is sloppy as hell coming back to the Bladecave and even with the way they call in, they don't get caught... till now. It's a cheat.

Since when is Chthon the FIRST house?!?

Why hasn't this series been renewed yet?

Phantom-like Menace
09-17-2006, 11:41 PM
Have you got any toilet paper? Oh well, it made me laugh.

I liked the finale well enough. The fight was great. Some of the lines were great. Quite a bit was going on in that episode.

I think the only part that really bothered me was the idea that a twelve-story drop would have killed a vampire. What? Why? Huh? Sunlight, garlic, silver, crosses, holy water, twelve-story drops. Yeah, whatever. Come on, Chase survived being turned into a briquette a few weeks ago, but a few floors worth of falling would kill her? Of course she survived. I didn't need to see proof of that.

JediTricks
09-18-2006, 04:45 PM
Yeah, that was a total cop-out, they should have had Krista break off a piece of banister as a makeshift stake and throw it straight down the stairwell, ashing Chase right there from 12 stories up. I guess the idea was that the damage was so severe Krista couldn't imagine even a vampire surviving it, but that's dumb.

Rocketboy
09-29-2006, 11:32 PM
Well, it was kinda fun while it lasted:

Blade: The Series Cancelled
Source: THEOcracy (http://theocracy.wordpress.com/2006/09/28/blade-gets-staked/)
September 29, 2006


THEOcracy (http://theocracy.wordpress.com/2006/09/28/blade-gets-staked/) has picked up a post from Jill Wagner, who stated that Spike TV has cancelled Blade: The Series:

Just wanted to say thanks again to all of you who supported me and Blade the Series. I was just informed today that there will be NO 2nd season of Blade the Series. I really enjoyed playing Krista and i hope that i did her justic at least for one season! However, that is not the end of Jill Wagner's acting career (http://www.superherohype.com/news/bladenews.php?id=4756#). I will keep you guys posted on what's next for me. Again i say thanks for the support. Hey, there is always the DVD right????

The series started off strong early in the season but lost viewers as it went on.http://www.superherohype.com/news/bladenews.php?id=4756

Phantom-like Menace
09-30-2006, 01:23 AM
I can't say I'm surprised that I yet again gave a show more of an opportunity to become better than a network did. At least it wasn't on Fox or we never would have even had a season finale. I wonder if that makes other Blade projects more likely or less likely.

Tycho
09-30-2006, 02:25 AM
That sucks. I was really enjoying that series. Kirk Jones has had some bad luck, too:

he left The Shield to do "Over There," (Cancelled) and now he lost Blade.

"Over There" was also a good show (about the very "today" war in Iraq).

Meanwhile, Jill Wagner and the guy who played Marcus, were really great in the story. I liked Chase, too. Man even Shen's character was developing and characters like Charlotte and Mr. FBI were intriguing.

I do think that Season 1 wraps very nicely though. You're right that they made it very complete.

Ugggh. Will a "Save Blade" letter campaign to Spike make a difference? Once upon a time it saved Star Trek - but I'm sure Trek had a much broader appeal.

Still, I'd write Spike a letter - and FX as well for cancelling "Over There."

JediTricks
09-30-2006, 09:53 PM
I think it'd be wiser to write to the company that produced the show, Spike only aired it, but the production company might be willing to produce it for syndication or another network.

It's a good thing the season ended on such a strong note with melting vamps and cool fights, if it had been a lesser battle it wouldn't have been a fitting ending to the show, now at least we can think of it as 1 long Blade movie.

Rocketboy
11-26-2007, 11:17 PM
*puts down shovel*
Blade: The Series is finally getting a full DVD release (http://www.dvdactive.com/news/releases/blade-the-series.html):

New Line Home Entertainment has announced Blade: The Series which stars Sticky Fingaz, Jill Wagner, and Jessica Gower. The 4-disc set will include all 13 episodes of the series, and will be available to own from the 12th February. As well as extended episodes that are "too graphic for TV", the set will include audio commentary by director Peter O’Fallon, commentary from writers David Goyer and Geoff Johns, and a "Turning Blade" making of documentary. The recommended retail price has been set at around $39.98.
For what it was, I enjoyed the show, so I'll be picking it up.

Rocketboy
02-13-2008, 12:22 PM
If any of you kids care, Best Buy has Blade: The Series for $14.99.

Tycho
02-13-2008, 01:25 PM
I wish Spike had renewed that show and let it continue. They were doing pretty good if you asked me.

JediTricks
02-13-2008, 11:34 PM
I haven't watched Spike since, except for Afro Samurai which was only ok. They simply don't have anything worth watching anymore.

Tycho
02-14-2008, 05:02 AM
I don't see the need to buy "series on DVD" for shows that had no conclusion.

See, even with Star Trek Voyager, which wasn't that franchise's high mark, the ship gets home. There's closure.

With "Over There" and "Blade" there were was no closure. Why would you buy these? That's like owning a copy of ROTS that stops and rolls the credits before the creation of Darth Vader.