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JediTricks
08-17-2006, 01:26 PM
Waves 11 and 12 are the latest waves we have listings for, both are repaint waves which is a massive slowdown for the line IMO.

Wave 11:
http://www.sirstevesguide.com/index.php?categoryid=13&p2_articleid=192

Wave 12: http://www.sirstevesguide.com/index.php?categoryid=13&p2_articleid=258

Out of all of those, the only one I'm totally sure I want is the blue Naboo Fighter, it looks good, the rest range from "if I find it I'll probably get it" to "why would I want that?!?" ;) But I don't understand why Hasbro wants to slow the growing momentum of the line with a move like this.

ascmclarencoupe
08-17-2006, 03:36 PM
But I don't understand why Hasbro wants to slow the growing momentum of the line with a move like this.

From Hasbro's standpoint, why not? They can make more money on re-paints and they know that most of us will buy them even though it's just a re-paint.
I of course would like to see more "new" releases but at least this is better than re-releasing the Wal*Mart waves that most of us already had.
To me different painted product is new product, If it's deliberately and obviously painted different than what I have on display, then I'll buy it.

I suppose it's a double edge sword, but by continuing to successfully sell the re-paints, it helps them to fund more tooling for new ships.

JediTricks
08-17-2006, 03:58 PM
From Hasbro's standpoint, why not? They can make more money on re-paints and they know that most of us will buy them even though it's just a re-paint.That's the thing though, they "know" that most of us will buy repaints? This line is anything but a sure thing at this point, it's an experiment that's going well but it's still not even remotely a lock, every new release affects the growing momentum of the line. I love the line, but this is 3 or 4 months' worth of product basically and that means folks who aren't down with the repaints will be NOT collecting the line for over a quarter of a year - that's a move that has killed better lines than this, and if they pegwarm (which is more likely with repaints) there will be no room for new entries in a few months when they finally get back to it. I have no problem peppering case asst's with old ships and repaints, but to forego new vehicles for 2 full waves seems like folly to me.

ascmclarencoupe
08-17-2006, 04:05 PM
I have no problem peppering case asst's with old ships and repaints, but to forego new vehicles for 2 full waves seems like folly to me.

Ok, I see your point now and I will agree with that. They should at least release one new ship in each wave. It would also give us collectors a better chance against the scalpers instead of releasing several new ships in one wave.

Kidhuman
08-17-2006, 05:57 PM
I dont know if I will be getting all the repaints, I do want the Naboo fighter and the swap speeder and Y-wing. The rest I might pass on. I have to get the droid fighter as I missed the first go round on it.

Warstar
08-17-2006, 10:09 PM
I'm sorta with JT on this...but I do wonder if that means stores will be FORCED to get their old stick out so that they can get these latest waves.

The Titanium Transformers are clogging the Titanium pegs here, though...so it could be a while before we see any of either of these waves. At least they won't be "rare," thank goodness, and there's a good bet that Wave 10 Revision 4 will be shipping concurrently that will have the Mace Windu JSF and Leia Speederbikes in them (along with the new BSG's).

I'll take the 3 months and catch up if I can/need to :p

bobafrett
08-18-2006, 11:31 AM
I will get a snowspeeder. I don't believe I have one yet, but some of the repaints I will probably have to pass on.

dindae
08-18-2006, 12:54 PM
While I believe it is lame to have 2 whole waves of repaints but I will pick them all up. I don't see why I wouldn't get these when I picked up those 5 packs. The second wave looks better than the first probably due to the blue Naboo fighter.

mtriv73
08-18-2006, 02:10 PM
The blue a-wings and sandcrawlers are already backing up here. Also, I agree with Warstar that the Transformer titaniums are going to hurt this line. There are pegs and pegs of them all over the place around here (it's kind of like the unleashed battlepacks earlier this year.)

There are several repaints in the upcoming waves I'd like to get, but I think many of them are going to sit around for a while.

JediTricks
08-18-2006, 04:16 PM
Looks like it could be 3 waves in a row, I dunno if this is wave 13 or not but it's the next wave of TS 3" pics we've gotten in a row:
http://www.sirstevesguide.com/index.php?categoryid=13&p2_articleid=265

3 repaint waves in a row is pretty much from September to March of next year unless they start kicking up the pace faster.


I'm sorta with JT on this...but I do wonder if that means stores will be FORCED to get their old stick out so that they can get these latest waves.It depends on how they interpret the "new" aspect of these, my guess is wave 11 and 12 there being even-packed means they're the first 2007 cases and retailers are going to be encouraged to see it as next year's product (this is why Hasbro changes the action figure packaging so often).


The Titanium Transformers are clogging the Titanium pegs here, though...so it could be a while before we see any of either of these waves.Only Target is having that issue, TRU and WM in my area know better. The Transformer Titanium 3"ers ship in their own cases separate from SW/BSG cases, orders of the TF ones should not be affecting orders of the SW/BSG ones, but Target is low on shelf space and/or understanding that these are separate lines and is putting all their product together.


At least they won't be "rare," thank goodness, and there's a good bet that Wave 10 Revision 4 will be shipping concurrently that will have the Mace Windu JSF and Leia Speederbikes in them (along with the new BSG's).
That would make them rare unless the earlier product is moving, if the line is bottlenecking then Mace's JSF (which I totally forgot was also in that wave) and Leia's Speederbike will be rare. Moreover, Mace's JSF and Leia aren't in waves 11 or 12 at this point.


I'll take the 3 months and catch up if I can/need to :pThe more it backlogs, the longer we'll have to wait to find 'em and the more chance the line will fold.

Warstar
08-18-2006, 06:47 PM
True on all accounts, JT. The SW TS and the TS TF's are all racked together here, everywhere- which SUCKs since Target has a total of 4 pegs for them, and K-Mart has a total of 4 pegs, too. Wal-Mart has 8 pegs of Titaniums altogether- 4 marked Star Wars, 4 TF's- but they're all mixed. It's how it is. These are the only 3 stores in Bozeman that carry the Titanium Series ships at retail, too :(

I hope the line doesn't fold, but if Wave 13 is indeed ANOTHER set of repaints, suddenly I'm concerned for it all, too...

Kidhuman
08-18-2006, 07:55 PM
It might be because they are still working on all the goodies for next year that we saw at toy fair.

Blue2th
08-18-2006, 08:13 PM
The blue a-wings and sandcrawlers are already backing up here. Also, I agree with Warstar that the Transformer titaniums are going to hurt this line. There are pegs and pegs of them all over the place around here (it's kind of like the unleashed battlepacks earlier this year.)


Usually there are four rows of Titaniums at Target. Two Transformer rows and two Star Wars. I went into Target the other day looking for SW Titaniums, but the Transformers were on all four rows mixed with maybe three SW. I separated them to where all the Transformers were on their own rows leaving only the very few SW on their pegs. I went in the next day and they had stocked more SW Titaniums. Every time I go in to a Target I try to organize their Titaniums for them and separate the Transformers. I've even done it at Walmart. I think it helps them realize when they need to restock the pegs. I maybe wrong but sometimes we collectors have to take matters into our own hands and help them (the retailers) help us.

Kidhuman
08-18-2006, 08:15 PM
I got 8 rows at Target, 6 at WM and Kmart here.

figrin bran
08-18-2006, 09:12 PM
Only Target is having that issue, TRU and WM in my area know better. The Transformer Titanium 3"ers ship in their own cases separate from SW/BSG cases, orders of the TF ones should not be affecting orders of the SW/BSG ones, but Target is low on shelf space and/or understanding that these are separate lines and is putting all their product together.



i beg to differ JT. they might order TF's and SW/BSG separately but in every store i visited today:

La Brea Target
Los Feliz TRU
La Cienega TRU
Eagle Rock Target
Crenshaw WM

they were all mixed together. Blue A-Wings were plentiful as were most of the TF's except for maybe War Within Optimus, Beast Wars Megs.

Darth Michael
08-18-2006, 09:46 PM
The Transformers and Star Wars (and BSG) Titaniums are all mixed together pretty much everywhere here. However, I noticed there are "price reduction" flags on some of the pegs in at least two different Targets. The "original" price is shown as $15. The "reduced" price is the expected $5. I forget the details on the price reduction tag. I think it mentioned the word "robots". It seems like it is specifically for the Transformers.

Kidhuman
08-18-2006, 09:57 PM
It is for the 6" titaniums, they messed up the DCPI's or something. I ended up getting the 6" ones for 4.99 thanks to that

Darth Michael
08-18-2006, 10:29 PM
So, if I see that price reduction flag, I might be able to get an Ultra for $5?

Kidhuman
08-19-2006, 05:58 AM
Possibly, I did.

SWAFMAN
08-19-2006, 04:53 PM
I hit every Wal Mart and Target I passed between here (dead-center of PA) and Pittsburgh this week. Every one had the transformers and regular 3" titaniums mixed together. Don't recall if TRU even had the little transformers pegged yet, but they did have the first BSG Viper I've seen yet, which I snagged.

On the bad side, in a total of about 10 Wal Marts and 3 Targets, I only saw about 7 total Titanium Ultras. Nothing but Slave 1, ARC-170 and Tri-Fighter. No MilFals and no VaderTIES and no Galacticas. I have given up on finding these retail. Will check the usual e-tailer suspects D&S, etc.... Hope they have 'em and at a fair price.

Also, when I was in TRU I saw those Unleashed snowspeeders. I asked the clerk if I could open one to see the ship and she said ok. I guess my eyes were playing tricks because it looked a little bigger than the original Galoob AF snowspeeder, but it had the LFL letters embossed on the bottom, and all details looked the same as the AF other than those two oversized !@#$% pilot torsos glued into the seats. Anyway, if anyone got in late to collecting AF, and needs a snowspeeder, this would probably fit the bill.


-- added 8/20/06. Well, I broke down and bought the MilFal and VaderTIE from D&S. The ships weren't bad price - $18 each, but the shipping was terrible - over $13.

matthewilw
08-20-2006, 10:52 PM
http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HS34558P

anybody notice that "Battlestar Galactica 1978 Colonial Viper" is in wave 14 before the Epi. II JSF with hyperspace ring?

I'm looking forward to more new titanium pictures.

JediTricks
08-21-2006, 05:37 PM
So it's confirmed, we're getting 3 waves in a row of pure repaints, waves 11, 12, and 13. EE expects wave 13 by Nov, I just hope they don't overship and clog stores after the holiday. What I'm really concerned about is something that far too often does in Hasbro lines, they produce too many waves of stuff a lot of collectors don't want, then realize it's not selling and put out good product again, but stores at this point aren't going to have room to put out that good new product so the line folds with good product sitting in warehouses.


i beg to differ JT. they might order TF's and SW/BSG separately but in every store i visited today:
La Brea Target
Los Feliz TRU
La Cienega TRU
Eagle Rock Target
Crenshaw WMthey were all mixed together. Blue A-Wings were plentiful as were most of the TF's except for maybe War Within Optimus, Beast Wars Megs.Well, that's weird, I was last at Los Feliz TRU a week ago and it wasn't like that, they had separated. Panorama City WM was the same way on Saturday.



-- added 8/20/06. Well, I broke down and bought the MilFal and VaderTIE from D&S. The ships weren't bad price - $18 each, but the shipping was terrible - over $13.Cheaper than retail each, not bad, the shipping for the 2 ain't that bad either really, they're quite heavy, 3 pounds parcel post is $6.66 and takes 2 weeks to get there, 3 pounds priority mail is $9.75 or something, no etailer uses it that I know of parcel post (I've been sending a lot of stuff lately). I used up my whole Friday and Saturday scouring LA for the Ultras, finally got a Target employee to bring me out a case with both in them late Saturday afternoon (sealed case had mashed packages on all 4 ships inside, the plastic cases were fine tho') and bought them both, so I probably burned up that much gas hunting (miserably) for them.



anybody notice that "Battlestar Galactica 1978 Colonial Viper" is in wave 14 before the Epi. II JSF with hyperspace ring?

I'm looking forward to more new titanium pictures.Yeah, case 14 looks very very exciting, everything there is new, I can't wait to get most of that case and I'm glad they're making good on the classic BSGs they said they'd do.

Titaniums may end up being my main collectible by the end of next year if it can survive junk like 3 repaint waves in a row. It's not too expensive, I love ships, and it's not as popular as the figures so there's usually a decent chance of finding them.

Kidhuman
08-21-2006, 05:42 PM
The only good thing about the 3 repaint waves is usually the day after Christmas it all hits clearance. The forst year the Titaniums were out, I got all 4 of wave 1 the day after Christmas for 3 bucks each.

Warstar
08-21-2006, 05:50 PM
Well, we'll see what's clogging the pegs by Christmas.

I am kinda' surprised we haven't had another 5-Pack yet. Christmas is the time to release one...

Still, I'd bet the first shipment or two of the repaint waves will sell well here. Any more than that and we could be left with the "Good ones in the warehouse" scenario. I REALLY hope that doesn't happen...again...

SWAFMAN
08-22-2006, 11:47 AM
...I used up my whole Friday and Saturday scouring LA for the Ultras, finally got a Target employee to bring me out a case with both in them late Saturday afternoon (sealed case had mashed packages on all 4 ships inside, the plastic cases were fine tho') and bought them both, so I probably burned up that much gas hunting (miserably) for them.
It's incredible. When we started forumming about MM/AF, gas was what?, about 99 cents/gallon? At roughly $3/gal., it doesn't take much driving to offset the cost of buying online and paying shipping, does it?

If I get those Corgis, I'll try to take some very detailed pics & post them for you. Maybe with a Action Fleet or [may the 'Quality Gods' forgive me] Playmates ship next to it for scale.

jeddah
08-22-2006, 12:40 PM
Maybe with a Action Fleet or [may the 'Quality Gods' forgive me] Playmates ship next to it for scale.

Oh no you didn't..... I hope you have your Farseein Googles, Swaffy...Keep your eyes to the skies, that Thunderbolt is a-comin'.

I have some AF-scale KBops, Galor and Ferengi Hairdryer boxed in my parents' loft somewhere. I think they're playmates, right?

jeddah

Blue2th
08-22-2006, 05:12 PM
Well it didn't do me any good to place all the Transformers back in their respective rows and leave the Sw rows ready to be filled up and help the stockers at Target. They filled up the SW rows with Transformers. Now there's four rows of Transformers! :squareeye

dindae
08-22-2006, 07:00 PM
Sorry to hear that Blue2th. I have a feeling the Transformers are going to hinder the release of SW around here as well. They are doing well at all. If anyone needs one that they can't find let me know. I will be have to free a space around here on the pegs.

JediTricks
08-22-2006, 08:16 PM
It's incredible. When we started forumming about MM/AF, gas was what?, about 99 cents/gallon? At roughly $3/gal., it doesn't take much driving to offset the cost of buying online and paying shipping, does it?No kidding, it's a big shocker to watch $20 go into the pump and barely get it to the halfway mark in the tank, then watch that gauge drop back down on the hunt. Totally sucks. Of course, when we started we could call toy stores and they'd hold us the SW figs or AF even when the case wasn't in the store yet.


If I get those Corgis, I'll try to take some very detailed pics & post them for you. Maybe with a Action Fleet or [may the 'Quality Gods' forgive me] Playmates ship next to it for scale.You mean those Strike Force losers? Ye gods!


Nice job Blue2th. :p What next, gonna hack into their ordering computer and make it impossible to order more Star Wars Titaniums? ;)

Maybe we should start talking to toy section managers about this Titanium 3" problem.

Kidhuman
08-22-2006, 08:40 PM
Like they will listen. 1/2 the stores hate collectors.

JediTricks
08-22-2006, 09:21 PM
Yeah, that's so true, not just the managers but the corporate policies even. Still, it's worth a shot.

BTW, I changed the thread title to be a little more accurate.

ascmclarencoupe
08-23-2006, 08:20 AM
Same problem here, the Transformers are taking up all the peg space and then just sitting there but get this.
I was at my local Target store Saturday and was wandering the isles looking for an R2-D2 Mr. Potato Head for my son's birthday and was actually approached by a good looking...ok, I'll say it....hot looking clerk who asked me if I found what I was looking for. She was very helpful and after we both looked but couldn't find it, she called a manager over who said that they hadn't gotten any in yet.
She must have been new. ;)
My wife wasn't too happy though but she knows I never ask for help from store clerks so it really wasn't my fault. :whip:

I might have to go back and find that clerk and see if I can talk her into checking the storeroom for more Titaniums since you guys on the West coast are finding the B-Wing & the TIE Interceptor, then I will be all caught up except for the Ultra AT-AT which I have a feeling may never appear on the shelves here.

Kidhuman
08-23-2006, 02:34 PM
Maybe you should add repaint waves in the title JT.

JediTricks
08-23-2006, 03:09 PM
What the...? Wow, and yet you guys all knew what I meant, the original title didn't have "repaint" in it either. Who's the more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows him? :p


Darth Michael found this, HasbroToyShop has Ultra AT-ATs in stock now: http://www.hasbrotoyshop.com/ProductsByBrand.htm?ID=17692&BR=495

SWAFMAN
08-26-2006, 12:34 AM
Oh no you didn't..... I hope you have your Farseein Googles, Swaffy...Keep your eyes to the skies, that Thunderbolt is a-comin'.

I have some AF-scale KBops, Galor and Ferengi Hairdryer boxed in my parents' loft somewhere. I think they're playmates, right?

jeddah

Hairdryer lol. That is, without question, the worst of the lot. A chimpanzee with a glop of Play-Dough and a twig could have rendered a better sculpt.

Like JT said in his post a couple down from yours, it was the Strike Force line from Playmates.

I just went and looked at them all again, and they're like the "pros" that work the casinos and bars in Vegas. From about 10 feet or more away, they look pretty darn good... then you get about a foot away and it's like, "OH DEAR GOD, what was I thinking!!!!". On some of the ships, it really seems like an attempt was made to do a decent reproduction of the vehicle, but then another team came along with all the subtlety of Jack the Ripper and carved up the ship to add "nifty play features" that make the cockpit in the AF MilFal look like the movement of a Swiss watch by comparison. Finally, the "detaling" team came along and took a giant, steaming dump on every one of the Strike Force ships. "Paint?... Paint???.. We don't need no stinkin' PAINT!!!"

(...but they DID have AF-sized mini-figures!)

JediTricks
08-27-2006, 07:09 PM
The only one I think is at all allowed to be considered any semblance of a success is the Maquis Fighter: http://members.aol.com/rdbousquet/strikeforce.html

I remember finding these at my local TRU and being so excited, then seeing them up close and realizing my worrying over not being able to afford all at once wasn't going to be an issue. :p

britcit3
09-13-2006, 02:51 PM
Greetings

Just bagged the new repaints of Y-Wing & Tri-fighter on Ebay from a seller in Hong Kong, but I had it in my head the next wave included Leia on Speederbike and MWindu Jedi SF.

Any signs of these stateside?

BC3

Kidhuman
09-13-2006, 04:03 PM
I am looking for those also, no sightings of those as of yet.&

BountyHunterScum
09-15-2006, 09:05 AM
The only one I think is at all allowed to be considered any semblance of a success is the Maquis Fighter: http://members.aol.com/rdbousquet/strikeforce.html

I remember finding these at my local TRU and being so excited, then seeing them up close and realizing my worrying over not being able to afford all at once wasn't going to be an issue. :p

I had all the Strike Force stuff. I still have the two heads around here.

britcit3
09-21-2006, 04:34 AM
Just got the Y-wing repaint and Tridroid repaints from merry Hong Kong.

Love the Y-wing, but pretty unimpressed with the droid fighter - other than minor weahering, almost the same as the original.

Have a looky

BC3

JediTricks
09-21-2006, 04:48 PM
Nice gets. I like the weathering on the Droid Tri Fighter but they should have taken it further. What's that middle Y-wing in the 3rd pic, is that from a 5-pack?

britcit3
09-22-2006, 01:23 AM
Indeed yes.

BC3

Warstar
09-22-2006, 01:40 PM
Actually, I kinda' like the Tri-Fighter :D At least it's different than the original. They could do another 5-pack if they wanted with it as a repaint in the pack- they already have the package mold (WM 5-Pack #1) but they'd need a new Silver Raw Metal ship for that pack (I kinda' thought the raw metal AT-RT was a waste, anyway, though)

I can't wait to find new stuff- but I am in Dayton, OH right now for job training and I don't have a lot of time to hunt. :(

Slicker
09-22-2006, 02:16 PM
but I had it in my head the next wave included Leia on Speederbike and MWindu Jedi SF.

Any signs of these stateside?

BC3I did see a report of them being found in the states. Not sure where but I'd have to assume it was in California.

Kidhuman
09-22-2006, 05:00 PM
Actually someone found em in Richmond. &

BountyHunterScum
09-23-2006, 12:25 PM
Actually someone found em in Richmond. &

Yeah I did, Mindu's fighter and Leia's speederbike.

britcit3
09-23-2006, 12:39 PM
Just bagged my Windu SF & Leia Sb at a very very reasonable price on Ebay ($28ish inc postage to the UK - I usually pay that EACH).

BC3

dindae
09-23-2006, 10:34 PM
$28!!! is that US$?

britcit3
09-24-2006, 03:23 AM
Yes indeed.

BC3

dindae
09-24-2006, 10:37 AM
If you ever needed help finding a good deal let me know that seems outrageous but looking at shipping cost I guess it not as bad as I first thought.

britcit3
09-24-2006, 11:21 AM
Cheers mate

Usully bag them on ebay when they first appear at about $15 each and the I usually get fleeced at about $15 postage.

But thanks for the offer.

BC3

britcit3
10-13-2006, 10:13 AM
The Dirty Swamp Speeder has just arrived and on close inspection with a magnifying glass it looks at though the Clone Troopers may have been a bit bored before the battle began and have defaced their dirty vehicle in time honoured tradition.............

JediTricks
10-13-2006, 03:57 PM
Haw, good ones! :D You know of course that now some other site will take those out of context and think they're real. :p

britcit3
10-13-2006, 04:15 PM
Cool!

BC3

sergiurusu
10-14-2006, 05:10 AM
LOL:D You should customize them like that!