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Old Fossil
09-03-2006, 09:15 PM
We need a carded release of single Stormtroopers (NOT the CommTech version -- the VOTC version). These things go for around $20 on eBay. Now I'm not suggesting an army-builder set or anything, just a single carded run, similar to the recent Sandtrooper and AT-AT Driver assortments, both of which seemed to sell out fast (the former more so than the latter, but I digress). This is an existing sculpt, and no different paint job is needed. Seems like a no-brainer here, Hasbro.:thumbsup:

Just do give us our Stormies already, and be done with it!

Slicker
09-03-2006, 09:20 PM
It has been awhile since we've gotten a stormie. We've gotten basically all of the other VOTC offerings recarded yet no stormie.

I'd have to bet that he isn't too far off though as Hasbro tries to put out the main characters every year or two.

Kidhuman
09-03-2006, 11:14 PM
Slicker is correct. I would look for him next year in the 30th ann. line&

bigbarada
09-04-2006, 12:23 AM
It has been awhile since we've gotten a stormie. We've gotten basically all of the other VOTC offerings recarded yet no stormie.



How do you figure that?

Here are the VOTC figures that have been recarded in some form:
R2-D2
Stormtrooper (as a Sandtrooper)
Darth Vader (the 500th figure and both Saga 2 releases, but all had a different head from the VOTC release)

Here are the VOTC figures who have never been recarded:
Han Solo
Princess Leia
Luke Skywalker
Chewbacca
Boba Fett
Lando Calrissian
Yoda
C-3PO

So it's actually the other way around.

Slicker
09-04-2006, 12:25 AM
Stormtrooper (as a Sandtrooper)

Exactly. That's a sandtrooper and not just a basic white Stormie.


I get where you're coming from but I'm going by the basic characters from the trilogy.

jedi master sal
09-04-2006, 12:26 AM
Slicker is correct. I would look for him next year in the 30th ann. line&

OR...look for him now as the Sandtrooper!!!

Just get some paint remover (non harmful to plastic) and within a couple of minutes you've got a stormtrooper!!!

Phantom-like Menace
09-04-2006, 12:49 AM
I'm never going to understand the situation on army builders. On one hand they seem like no brainers. Here they have a perfectly good figure that is in high demand, so it seems like they can just churn them out at will (this is ignoring the fact that every third collector who doesn't want them will complain that they've made another Figure X which prevents them from getting Figure Y . . . which is rhetorical crap).

I think I've heard that the existence of only one mold for each of these army builders makes it hard for them to produce the number of figures in demand, which I understand to be the reason they produce new variants on the #6 clone, #41 clone, AT-TE gunner, etc. instead of only using the more widely liked #41 mold.

That seems like a bit of a cop-out excuse though. If the figure is in high demand, and you can't make enough of them to satisfy everyone at one time, then make a few at a time for a longer period of time. In other words, instead of making (arbitrary number:) 25,000 of them for one wave of the year, you might try making 10,000 four or five times throughout the year. Obviously I've given about two seconds of thought to that, so my numbers aren't well considered, but that basic thinking seems sound.

Otherwise, while I still want to army build Episode III clones, I have been bitten by the bug to army build Stormtroopers and Biker Scouts too, so I would happily welcome more VOTC Stormtroopers. As it stands, I've bought all but one Saga Sandtrooper (I was out of cash at the time) I've seen.

DarkArtist
09-04-2006, 11:03 AM
How do you figure that?

Here are the VOTC figures that have been recarded in some form:
R2-D2
Stormtrooper (as a Sandtrooper)
Darth Vader (the 500th figure and both Saga 2 releases, but all had a different head from the VOTC release)

Here are the VOTC figures who have never been recarded:
Han Solo
Princess Leia
Luke Skywalker
Chewbacca
Boba Fett
Lando Calrissian
Yoda
C-3PO

So it's actually the other way around.

Well if you think about it, C-3PO is being re-issued with the Tin Sets, and Han Solo looks alsmost similiar to the first VOTC release just a different head sculpt. Boba Fett's legs were given to a mix and match Sarlacc Fett to give us the Sarlacc 2 version of Fett in the Carkoon Wave. And wasn't Chewie's body re-used for the Early Bird set.

bigbarada
09-04-2006, 05:58 PM
The Saga 2 Han Solo is the old crappy Commtech Han Solo body from 1999. It has nothing in common with the VOTC Han Solo.

Some parts from the VOTC Fett were used in the Saga 2 version, but he was mainly a rehash of the Saga 1 Boba Fett which is dramatically inferior to the VOTC and 300th Boba figures.

And of course, the Chewie body was used for the Early Bird set, but I thought we were talking about regular release figures here.

I would love to see them rerelease the VOTC Stormtrooper as a standard Stormtrooper. I managed to get 10 of them when they were on the shelves two years ago, but I wouldn't mind expanding my army a little bit.

And for those of us who just want to collect OT stuff, it will give us something to do other than sit around and complain about how many Clonetroopers we're getting.:D

DarkArtist
09-04-2006, 08:55 PM
The Saga 2 Han Solo is the old crappy Commtech Han Solo body from 1999. It has nothing in common with the VOTC Han Solo.

I was refering to the original VOTC Han Solo and the new VOTC Endor Han Solo. The Mos Eisely Saga Han was a crappy re-due of a figure that outlived it's time. When it first came out in the Comm-Tech line it was a great Han Solo but now the VOTC has came in and blasted it like Greedo in the Cantina.

bigbarada
09-05-2006, 02:19 AM
I was refering to the original VOTC Han Solo and the new VOTC Endor Han Solo. The Mos Eisely Saga Han was a crappy re-due of a figure that outlived it's time. When it first came out in the Comm-Tech line it was a great Han Solo but now the VOTC has came in and blasted it like Greedo in the Cantina.

The VTSC Solo just used parts: upper arms, legs, holster and a bizarre shrunken version of the VOTC head.

Back to the point, Stormtroopers are iconic enough in Star Wars that one year shouldn't go by that we don't get at least one carded release of the basic all-white Stormie. If they can give us a Vader every other wave, then we can get a few Stormtroopers and I don't think anyone will complain.

Rogue II
09-05-2006, 01:56 PM
If they do make a carded Stormtrooper, I hope they resculpt the torso instead of the existing VOTC Stormtrooper's chest. I have the Saga 2 Sandtrooper that uses the VOTC Stormtrooper mold. The join in his chest is very loose, and when it bends back, you can see a 1/8" hole in the middle of his chest, and keeps him from standing completely upright. It's pretty annoying. Not sure if I just got a bad figure or if this is widespread.

pbarnard
09-05-2006, 02:33 PM
I think it is unique to the TSC Sandtrooper. The Evolutions Sandtrooper and VOTC Stomrie I have don't have such a loose chest. I also wouldn't really call it a chest joint as much as a spinal articulation that a physiological correct humanoid should have where the ribs end and abdomen begins.

Rogue II
09-05-2006, 02:46 PM
I'll take your word on both counts. Dammit Jim, I'm an engineering technician, not a human...anatomy....guy....or something like that.;)

I just got a couple Evolutions Sandtroopers a month or so back and didn't even realize that there was a joint in the torso. Their arms and legs are pretty stiff, so I've been afraid of messing with because I don't want to break anything.

JediTricks
09-05-2006, 09:44 PM
I don't love the VOTC Stormtrooper mold as much as most of you, to me it's too small and thin. I wouldn't mind getting more of them, but if nothing else is changed they at least MUST have new paint, they need better paint in general and a shiny plastic look on the armor most importantly.

pbarnard
09-05-2006, 11:29 PM
There really hasn't been a basic stormtrooper equipped with a E-11 blaster outside of the VOTC since the POTF2 days. I don't want anymore of the environmental or scout troopers (alright, if they make a Sea or Rad or even re-do the Space i'm game).

bigbarada
09-06-2006, 01:44 AM
I think it is unique to the TSC Sandtrooper. The Evolutions Sandtrooper and VOTC Stomrie I have don't have such a loose chest. I also wouldn't really call it a chest joint as much as a spinal articulation that a physiological correct humanoid should have where the ribs end and abdomen begins.

That's interesting, because I have an Evolutions Sandtrooper that doesn't have a torso joint at all.

Phantom-like Menace
09-08-2006, 12:07 AM
I don't love the VOTC Stormtrooper mold as much as most of you, to me it's too small and thin.

While I almost consider this line blasphemy, I would say that if I had one complaint about the sculpt, it would be anorexia-related. That said, it's far from first on my list of characters needing a resculpt, though.