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JediTricks
09-13-2006, 07:24 PM
http://www.sirstevesguide.com/index.php?categoryid=10&p2_articleid=335

Wow does that thing look amazing! If I had the scratch, I'd be all over this thing. It's not just the super poseability or the tight fit of the undersuit, it's the helmet and armor itself, they have such tight tolerances and the coloring is spot-on so that it looks like it could be in human scale, it's a stunning piece and I hate to say it but I doubt Sideshow could pull it off this good. (On the other hand, Sideshow's version won't require assembly, won't be as fragile, will be easier to replace should something go wrong, and probably will cost half as much.) I just don't think there's ever going to be a poseable Stormtrooper that is more accurate than this at any price, and it kills me that it's outside my price level (and comfort zone, I fear the breakage issue fiercely).

Anyway, looks fantastic, and kudos to anybody who gets one.

2-1B
09-13-2006, 08:45 PM
what does RAH mean ?

JediTricks
09-13-2006, 08:56 PM
In Medicom's usage, it's "Real Action Hero", which I think is kinda doofy.

Didja see the pics? What think you?

bobafrett
09-13-2006, 09:45 PM
I thought that was a shot of a real Stormtrooper. That's how real that figure looks, and the poses, my goodness, I wish I had the cash for one too JT.

2-1B
09-13-2006, 10:42 PM
In Medicom's usage, it's "Real Action Hero", which I think is kinda doofy.

Oh ! See, when I saw your thread title for a split moment I thought of RAH as in Real American Hero ala GI Joe and I thought briefly that you were referencing a 12" Nazi or something (yes, I know GIJOE ARAH was a 3 3/4 line, I just meant VERY briefly did I think that :D ).



Didja see the pics? What think you?

Yes I did. What think I ?

I think you're right, I also thought when I saw it that it looked like a dude in a costume. It looked "odd" for a toy but not in a bad way, it just looked too realistic.

So how much does this cost? I didn't look beyond the cool pics. :)

Reefer Shark
09-13-2006, 11:20 PM
http://www.sirstevesguide.com/index.php?categoryid=10&p2_articleid=335

Wow does that thing look amazing! If I had the scratch, I'd be all over this thing. It's not just the super poseability or the tight fit of the undersuit, it's the helmet and armor itself, they have such tight tolerances and the coloring is spot-on so that it looks like it could be in human scale, it's a stunning piece and I hate to say it but I doubt Sideshow could pull it off this good. (On the other hand, Sideshow's version won't require assembly, won't be as fragile, will be easier to replace should something go wrong, and probably will cost half as much.) I just don't think there's ever going to be a poseable Stormtrooper that is more accurate than this at any price, and it kills me that it's outside my price level (and comfort zone, I fear the breakage issue fiercely).

Anyway, looks fantastic, and kudos to anybody who gets one.

I have two of these stormies, and they put all my other figures to shame (except maybe my Medicom Vaders..). I would've happily stuck with one, but I came across an auction on ebay I couldn't refuse, and got my second for around $75 (the 1st was $169 IIRC).

I wanted to point out a couple things though:

You don't have to assemble it, it comes all put together in it's black box. I think you may be confusing the Medicom RAH series with the Hot Toys Movie Masterpiece line (which you do have to assemble).

This stormy is not fragile. In fact, it's sturdier than any Sideshow figure I own (and actually holds it's poses well). The Medicom body is the best in the business. Their only con is that they run a bit shorter than most standard 1/6 figures. That can be easily remedied though as you can actually extend the legs on a Medicom body with little "spacers" you insert above the ankle.

I think the pre-order price is $129 at sws. Here's a couple links to some pics I posted in the Medicom thread. Gotta dig the blank head :thumbsup:

The Pair (http://forums.sirstevesguide.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14210&d=1153175822)

close up (http://forums.sirstevesguide.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=13591&d=1142238410)

JediTricks
09-14-2006, 09:11 PM
So how much does this cost? I didn't look beyond the cool pics. :)$130, which is tempting more and more as I think about it.


You don't have to assemble it, it comes all put together in it's black box. I think you may be confusing the Medicom RAH series with the Hot Toys Movie Masterpiece line (which you do have to assemble).Actually, I was thinking of the Marmit Japanese 12" SW figures. :p It's still wrong, but closer. ;)


This stormy is not fragile. In fact, it's sturdier than any Sideshow figure I own (and actually holds it's poses well). The Medicom body is the best in the business. Their only con is that they run a bit shorter than most standard 1/6 figures. That can be easily remedied though as you can actually extend the legs on a Medicom body with little "spacers" you insert above the ankle.How much smaller though, even with the spacers? Think you could take a photo of one next to a US 12" figure?

And great photos that you already included, nice!!!

nash
09-15-2006, 05:10 AM
It's not just the super poseability or the tight fit of the undersuit, it's the helmet and armor itself, they have such tight tolerances and the coloring is spot-on so that it looks like it could be in human scale

Exactly, that is why I don’t understand people’s argument that medicom is too expensive or that they are too short, quality products are never cheap.

I’d rather have something be a little short than to have it be 12” tall and look like a monkey with long arms, huge head, thick eyebrows, lipstick, and crap tailoring on the clothing (sideshows problems bunched into one). Medicom IS pricey but they are in scale…and Medicom doesn’t advertise their figures as “1/6th scale” so lets get over that argument =)



I hate to say it but I doubt Sideshow could pull it off this good. (On the other hand, Sideshow's version won't require assembly, won't be as fragile, will be easier to replace should something go wrong, and probably will cost half as much.) I just don't think there's ever going to be a poseable Stormtrooper that is more accurate than this at any price, and it kills me that it's outside my price level (and comfort zone, I fear the breakage issue fiercely).

I totally agree with you, Sideshow will not be able to pull off a stormtrooper or vader for that matter to match the quality of Medicom’s. If you think that youre going to get away with spending $60 for a Sideshow Vader or Stormy that will rival the Medicom ones, im sorry but youre dreaming. Sideshow is good for their price, but that’s about it.

You don’t have to be so paranoid of these breaking, theyre just figures and if you don’t manhandle them you should be fine. I haven’t had one break on me yet, or come defective yet.


In Medicom's usage, it's "Real Action Hero", which I think is kinda doofy.

I actually like the term RAH a lot. It basically sums up the whole nucleus of what Medicom is… “REAL”. Meaning that their figures ARE poseable to match what a real human being could do. And they are in scale to what a real human being should look like (except the comic characters of course). I swear, pick up comic spiderman as your first RAH, you will be blown away by the ways you can pose him and how anatomically correct the body limbs move.

Superman (http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g94/chadm13/Collectibles/supes.jpg)
Spidey (http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g94/chadm13/Collectibles/spidey.jpg)

JEDIpartner
09-15-2006, 08:30 AM
It's VERY nice... I think the helmet is a little big but, it's still VERY nice!! My pal bruce has the RAH Vader. It's a beautiful piece. The bad part is that it is in its own 12" scale. Meaning... it's much shorter than the Hasbro/Kenner or Sideshow 12" figures.

JediTricks
09-15-2006, 02:30 PM
Exactly, that is why I don’t understand people’s argument that medicom is too expensive or that they are too short, quality products are never cheap.It's outside the realm of pricing for 1:6 scale action figures for most folks, most folks can't army build at $130-$170 a pop. As for "too short", if they don't fit in with the other 1:6 scale action figures in one's collection, they are insular and have no connective context in one's collection.


Medicom IS pricey but they are in scale…and Medicom doesn’t advertise their figures as “1/6th scale” so lets get over that argument =)How can they be in scale if they're not marketed as such and are shorter than other 1:6 figures? Like the RAH Vader, it's pretty short for a Vader from the pics I've seen, using their standard 12" body, if the stormtrooper uses that body they're going to be the same height.


You don’t have to be so paranoid of these breaking, theyre just figures and if you don’t manhandle them you should be fine. I haven’t had one break on me yet, or come defective yet. At this price, I can't afford to take one's general word on that, I'd want assurances or at least first-hand experience (which is next to impossible because of the rarity of the piece here in the US), I've been burned before and I know a lot more folks who have been burned worse on imports.

nash
09-15-2006, 03:56 PM
It's outside the realm of pricing for 1:6 scale action figures for most folks, most folks can't army build at $130-$170 a pop. As for "too short", if they don't fit in with the other 1:6 scale action figures in one's collection, they are insular and have no connective context in one's collection.

This is true, these are definitely higher end stuff. Just like with Master Replicas LEs they are not for everyone’s budget. IMO, I could really care less how figures look next to each other. Even figures that are supposed to actually be in “1/6” scale are not really accurate. Sideshow Obi and Anakin and Qui Gon anyone?



How can they be in scale if they're not marketed as such and are shorter than other 1:6 figures? Like the RAH Vader, it's pretty short for a Vader from the pics I've seen, using their standard 12" body, if the stormtrooper uses that body they're going to be the same height.

By “in scale” I meant “in proportions”. The heads are not oversized, neither are the hands, arms and legs are the correct length, etc.. The head to body ratio are the same as you would see on a real person. Some of Sideshow’s releases so far suffer from the huge head syndrome I didn’t mean in scale to 1/6th of something. But nowhere on the box does it say 1/6 or 12” figure. This is a title that the “general” 1/6 figure community has given to Medicom, not from Medicom themselves. .

Reefer Shark
09-17-2006, 04:10 AM
How much smaller though, even with the spacers? Think you could take a photo of one next to a US 12" figure?

Here's a pic of medicom Stormy and Luke mixed in with Sideshow Luke and Han to show size difference. My Medicoms don't have any spacers in them, so I imagine it wouldn't be too dificult to make them the same height as Sideshow if I really wanted to. Here's also a pic of ROTJ Vader and Luke to show their size difference:

JediTricks
09-18-2006, 02:34 PM
Thanks for the comparison shot. That's a significant difference, that Stormtrooper looks like it's scaled to the 10.5" Barbie scale, "a little short for a stormtrooper" indeed. There's nothing I could do with that in relation to my other 12" figures, Medicom isn't going to release a lot of Star Wars figures so Stormtrooper there has only ROTJ Vader and Luke to hang out with, a pretty small crowd for a display. Even if you could add 2" of height, he's still going to come off as a slight build.

Reefer Shark
09-18-2006, 06:22 PM
lol! Yeah, they don't display well with Sideshow stuff.

Medicom is giving us Boba Fett, Blackhole Trooper, and ROTS Clone next, so there's a few more for Luke, Stormy and Vader to hang out with at least. I'm really looking forward to the 3 new figures, that's for sure!

stillakid
09-18-2006, 07:21 PM
Wow, could they do a Biker Scout like that? :yes:

nash
09-18-2006, 09:23 PM
plain and simple, medicom is not meant to be displayed with sideshow. medicom is it's own entity and so is sideshow. apples and oranges, both in price and also production.

2-1B
09-18-2006, 09:36 PM
and in taste.

JediTricks
09-19-2006, 03:09 PM
lol! Yeah, they don't display well with Sideshow stuff.

Medicom is giving us Boba Fett, Blackhole Trooper, and ROTS Clone next, so there's a few more for Luke, Stormy and Vader to hang out with at least. I'm really looking forward to the 3 new figures, that's for sure!Damn, I wish I could afford these, as stand-alone items they really are fantastic-looking, and Fett should be great. Fett and the ROTS Clone do round their line out very well in my mind, if I had a thousand "extra" bucks I'd totally get everything you mentioned (minus the Blackhole trooper - just not my interest), but since I can't I'm not going to start, I'm an "in for a penny, in for a pound" kinda guy. I am glad that these products exist at all though.


plain and simple, medicom is not meant to be displayed with sideshow. medicom is it's own entity and so is sideshow. apples and oranges, both in price and also production.The difference though is that Sideshow's 12" body is indicative of the standard 12" (aka 1:6) body that most of the other companies use, Hasbro, 21st Century Toys, Dragon, BBi, and Takara all have a similar body height, and it's Medicom who is trying to reinvent the wheel there - possibly because Medicom's plan is that Medicom isn't supposed to be displayed with ANY other line.

JON9000
09-22-2006, 11:49 AM
$130 is a lot of money, but I cannot see another Stormtrooper product coming out that will truly eclipse this guy, ever. That's why I'm picking up the GG slave Leia. It beats Attackus and Koby into the dirt. I'm going to wait until more vendors have had a shot at Fett, although I really like the GG statue.

JediTricks
09-22-2006, 03:31 PM
So now Sideshow is importing the Medicom ROTS Clonetrooper... that should complicate matters.

nash
09-23-2006, 01:28 AM
heheh, hopefully it will mean cheaper prices though. since the clone retails for around $150 from BBTS