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JediTricks
01-26-2007, 04:40 PM
I don't think it is all that disconnected anymore than there were all disconnected at the beginning. She and her family are still connected to Linderman, and so are the others. That is what will probably bring them all together.Well, in the beginning everybody was disconnected pretty much, so it was ok. Then we have Niki connected to Ando, and Niki connected to Peter, and then Niki intersects Hiro and Ando again, but then her story arc goes crazy off in its own direction with everybody in her family being a mutie yet intersecting nothing.

Mad Slanted Powers
01-26-2007, 07:17 PM
Well, in the beginning everybody was disconnected pretty much, so it was ok. Then we have Niki connected to Ando, and Niki connected to Peter, and then Niki intersects Hiro and Ando again, but then her story arc goes crazy off in its own direction with everybody in her family being a mutie yet intersecting nothing.Patience! At this point, she hasn't really had a reason to go seek others out. I don't think she is aware of anybody's powers other than D.L. Being in prison might be the path that will lead her to being found, and it might be the place where she learns to control Jessica.

JediTricks
01-28-2007, 04:59 AM
No patience! No! NO! NOOOO!!!!


RRRAAAARGGH!!!
JESSICA SMASH!!!

:p

Seriously though, everybody else has been growing more and more connected except for her tiny little corner which is shrinking and shrinking, it's not right, if they want us to continue to care they need to give us a reason to keep watching her soap opera crap.

LusiferSam
01-29-2007, 04:53 PM
OK, new theory:

HRG is working for Linderman. Linderman has too much of whats going on. He knew about Nikki and Nathan in the hotel, set em up. He buys the paintings and Hiros sword. His hands are in too much not be be involved.

I've been thinking the same thing since we learned that he has bought one of Isaac's paints. And now that we know he has Hiro's sword and a lot of Isaac's paints you know he knows.

I have couple of my own thoughts about Linderman. I'm guessing that Linderman don't know about Niki/Jessica, DL and Micah, which is why Mr. Bennett dosen't know about them. With Niki/Jessica in particular he will pay a heavy price for that ignorances. Second, I think Linderman might be on the List. If he is on the List, he's going to be powerful. Third, he wants to control those with powers. Whether for noble or nefarious reasons, Linderman wants that control.

Kidhuman
01-29-2007, 09:05 PM
Ok, great friggin epsiode. I was so thinking Hiro and Ando were going to get brought to Linderman, I didnt think it was his dad.

Invisible boy grabbing Peter was another shocker. I thought Peter still had some of his powers and then flew out the window by absorbing Nathans powers.

Claires mom is a "Hero" too? And who is her dad? I say its one of 3 people....
Linderman, Sylar or Nathan. The watch at the end makes me think Sylar, the sleeves rolled up makes me think Nathan and Linderman, well just because what better way for him to be introduced and tied together with Mr. Bennett?

Jedi_Master_Guyute
01-29-2007, 10:05 PM
Ok, great friggin epsiode. I was so thinking Hiro and Ando were going to get brought to Linderman, I didnt think it was his dad.

Invisible boy grabbing Peter was another shocker. I thought Peter still had some of his powers and then flew out the window by absorbing Nathans powers.

Claires mom is a "Hero" too? And who is her dad? I say its one of 3 people....
Linderman, Sylar or Nathan. The watch at the end makes me think Sylar, the sleeves rolled up makes me think Nathan and Linderman, well just because what better way for him to be introduced and tied together with Mr. Bennett?


Dude, FANTASTIC episode. I LOVED Hiro's comments, especially the GULP! I was kinda irked though as I was hoping to not know they were being taken to his father, but I accidentally hit INFO and it told me. Kinda PO'd about that, but eh.

I had a feeling that Sylar would cause more damage. Are we to believe that the Cheerleader has REALLY yet to be saved or did HRG and his antics just mess up that entire debacle?!!?? And i'm loving the struggle between Clarie and HRG right now. You know he cares about his daughter, but wants to protect her and thus, has to lie. And i'm seeing where she's coming from too: wanting to know who the hell she is. And I really hope that Haitian Hank doesn't get called out, but i'm assuming, he will.

oh and KH, as soon as Peter started talking to Nathan and put his hand on his shoulder, I too got all, "he's gonna fly! out of the roof! out of the building!" and i was pleasantly proven wrong by the Invisible Brit.

Glad to see that Nikki might, ya know, start doing something. I'm really thinking she needs to bust out, go Jessica for a while and start being a hero or a villian, pick a side, dammit! And how cool was the kid and his $$$? Great scene.

and finally, I was so uber happy we met Claires mom. When she put that smoke in her mouth, I yelped, "Fire starter!" and bam, i was right. Her father? I'm calling it as Linderman as the character was wearing this huge gawdy ring that only Linderman would probably have. and c'mon, Sylar is too young, at least, looks too young.

Can't wait till next week. :thumbsup:

edit: And i'm very very curious to see if Parkman's child is HIS OWN or the other office who was knocking around his missus!

Kidhuman
01-29-2007, 11:10 PM
I forgot about hte kid thing, that was the first thing I said when she mentioned she was pregnant.

figrin bran
01-30-2007, 12:19 AM
it better not be sylar because he did say something along the lines of claire being so "young and supple" a few episodes back.

Linderman isn't supposed to appear until after February sweeps but Claire's biological dad is going to be revealed shortly. therefore, it's likely to be someone else. maybe someone we haven't met yet?

Phantom-like Menace
01-30-2007, 05:43 AM
I was kinda irked though as I was hoping to not know they were being taken to his father, but I accidentally hit INFO and it told me. Kinda PO'd about that, but eh.

Yeah I could have done without doing that. It kind of took every ounce of suspense out of that part of the show.

As for Claire's father, I would have guessed Linderman too, but since he's not supposed to be seen until later, I suppose it's someone else.

Kidhuman
01-30-2007, 06:09 AM
If they just show a wrist watch and a voice, is that really showing the character? Kind of like they did with Charlie on Charlies Angels. Always saw him in his office, but never his face.

Phantom-like Menace
01-30-2007, 07:01 AM
If they just show a wrist watch and a voice, is that really showing the character? Kind of like they did with Charlie on Charlies Angels. Always saw him in his office, but never his face.

Yeah, or Dr. Claw.

Kidhuman
01-30-2007, 07:37 AM
Oh no, you broke out an Inspector Gadget analogy. Too funny

JediTricks
01-30-2007, 04:39 PM
I was expecting "the list" to be a hell of a lot longer than 36 people.


Anyway, good episode, pacing was fairly strong throughout and like most eps and many good comic books the best stuff ramped up to a fevered pitch in the last 10 minutes or so.



Ok, great friggin epsiode. I was so thinking Hiro and Ando were going to get brought to Linderman, I didnt think it was his dad. Yeah, that was a great twist, I didn't see it coming either even though I had read the character was to be in the episode.


Invisible boy grabbing Peter was another shocker. I thought Peter still had some of his powers and then flew out the window by absorbing Nathans powers. I liked it, but I felt like something similar was going to happen - though the inclusion of "Claude Rains" :p (nice ref) did throw me.


Claires mom is a "Hero" too? And who is her dad? I say its one of 3 people....
Linderman, Sylar or Nathan. The watch at the end makes me think Sylar, the sleeves rolled up makes me think Nathan and Linderman, well just because what better way for him to be introduced and tied together with Mr. Bennett?A friend of mine felt it'd be Mr Bennett himself, I thought that was a little pat. I don't buy that Sylar ever had a girl before, so that's out. Nathan I don't like for it but I do agree the rolled-up sleeve did suggest it slightly. Linderman would be an interesting twist. I checked the ep once we saw the trailer for pink dress shirts, that kind of watch, and that kind of ring, but no dice.



Dude, FANTASTIC episode. I LOVED Hiro's comments, especially the GULP!That was such a funny moment, very comic booky, I dug it.


I had a feeling that Sylar would cause more damage.IMO, Sylar's "death" was one of the things that didn't work for me in this episode. The guy is a known threat AND they want to do an autopsy on the guy, the first thing they should have done is remove his head and put it on ice, then put his body in cold storage separately, but instead they leave him on the table to rot and he comes back to life. The first thing in this series that I felt was sloppy.


Are we to believe that the Cheerleader has REALLY yet to be saved or did HRG and his antics just mess up that entire debacle?!!??We are to believe that Claire's saved, according to the Haitian in the previous episode.


Glad to see that Nikki might, ya know, start doing something. I'm really thinking she needs to bust out, go Jessica for a while and start being a hero or a villian, pick a side, dammit!I agree, they need to get going with this character, do something, this ep made her storyline slightly more interesting again but still passive and disconnected.


And how cool was the kid and his $$$? Great scene.Actually, I thought it was pretty unwise, the kid is breaking the law for personal gain and being sloppy about it, ATMs have cameras. I can understand where he's coming from there, he's a kid and doesn't have enough internal wisdom yet, but it will be more interesting to see how DL responds to it.

I didn't like how Micah was misbehaving in this episode towards his dad, it was understandable but such a huge instant shift for the character, we needed to be led into it a little better I thought.



it better not be sylar because he did say something along the lines of claire being so "young and supple" a few episodes back.The guy is a serial killer who cuts out mutants' brains, you really think that's going to be the line he won't cross? :p


Linderman isn't supposed to appear until after February sweeps but Claire's biological dad is going to be revealed shortly. therefore, it's likely to be someone else. maybe someone we haven't met yet?A friend of mine says he read the show's creator says it's someone we've already seen or known about.


If they just show a wrist watch and a voice, is that really showing the character? Kind of like they did with Charlie on Charlies Angels. Always saw him in his office, but never his face.That's a good point, I can see that happening. BTW, here's Charlie's face: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001234/
It sorta fits I suppose.



Yeah, or Dr. Claw.Tell that to the HORRIBLE Inspector Gadget movie.

figrin bran
01-30-2007, 09:15 PM
here's a possible scenario - Claire's firestarting biological mom tried to kill her. that's why she was presumed to have died in a fire. HRG could've been the one to rescue and then adopt Claire.

dindae
01-30-2007, 11:56 PM
I was expecting "the list" to be a hell of a lot longer than 36 people.

Yeah me too especially since some have died on the list.


IMO, Sylar's "death" was one of the things that didn't work for me in this episode. The guy is a known threat AND they want to do an autopsy on the guy, the first thing they should have done is remove his head and put it on ice, then put his body in cold storage separately, but instead they leave him on the table to rot and he comes back to life. The first thing in this series that I felt was sloppy.

I agree but I guess dead is usually dead so I can let it go.


I didn't like how Micah was misbehaving in this episode towards his dad, it was understandable but such a huge instant shift for the character, we needed to be led into it a little better I thought.

Micah's attitude really took me off guard. I just didn't see it coming from him. The fact that he put up with his mom doing internet porn for money but starts dishing out grieve when his dad loses his lunchbox.


A friend of mine says he read the show's creator says it's someone we've already seen or known about.

That a shame I don't mind having connections but I just don't like to many "I am your father" moments.


here's a possible scenario - Claire's firestarting biological mom tried to kill her. that's why she was presumed to have died in a fire. HRG could've been the one to rescue and then adopt Claire.

I can see the house already burning and the mother and daughter are caught inside and presumed dead of course with the mother being a fire starter flame won't hurt her and Claire could shake it off.

Mad Slanted Powers
01-31-2007, 12:16 AM
IMO, Sylar's "death" was one of the things that didn't work for me in this episode. The guy is a known threat AND they want to do an autopsy on the guy, the first thing they should have done is remove his head and put it on ice, then put his body in cold storage separately, but instead they leave him on the table to rot and he comes back to life. The first thing in this series that I felt was sloppy.I didn't get the impression they were leaving them on the table to rot. He had just died and HRG gave him instructions on what to do with the body. He was preparing to do that when he woke up. So, the sloppiness was with the guy assuming that Sylar was going to stay dead.

Kidhuman
01-31-2007, 06:08 AM
Michas attitude was understandable. His mom is gone, she seemed to be the one constatnt in his life. She protected him from everything and took care of him. He seemed like a kid who had just been through a divorce. Kids are very sensitive to change. He gave his mom grief to about DL not being around. Kids cant show there emotions any other way like adults who can surpress it, kids just let it out.

JediTricks
01-31-2007, 11:46 PM
here's a possible scenario - Claire's firestarting biological mom tried to kill her. that's why she was presumed to have died in a fire. HRG could've been the one to rescue and then adopt Claire.I figure Claire's mom didn't know how to control her powers when they first appeared and the house exploded from a gas leak or something, the baby was burned to a crisp and so Claire's mom hoofed it to avoid the questions from the coppers, but the baby miraculously healed because she's Claire.



Yeah me too especially since some have died on the list.That's right, I hadn't thought of that!


I agree but I guess dead is usually dead so I can let it go.I'll have to let it go, but IMO this was a blunder, they know Sylar has taken bullets to the kill-zone and risen before, plus his autopsy was very important as we had JUST learned about earlier in the ep.


Micah's attitude really took me off guard. I just didn't see it coming from him. The fact that he put up with his mom doing internet porn for money but starts dishing out grieve when his dad loses his lunchbox.I think they were trying to get across that DL can't cope with the troubles of their life the way Niki could and it's taking a toll on Micah, also Micah's mother is in jail and I guess that could have been a major factor in his crappy behavior - still, it would have taken 3 seconds of dialogue to say that.


That a shame I don't mind having connections but I just don't like to many "I am your father" moments.Agreed, but if it's Linderman then at least it's someone we haven't MET which makes a little difference.



I didn't get the impression they were leaving them on the table to rot. He had just died and HRG gave him instructions on what to do with the body. He was preparing to do that when he woke up. So, the sloppiness was with the guy assuming that Sylar was going to stay dead.We don't know how long the guy waited to call Bennet or how long it took to find him, but Bennet's people have been on top of nearly everything about these muties so far and this one I think was a blunder beyond acceptability.

General_Grievous
02-01-2007, 02:02 PM
Took a while to post, but anyway... Great episode! I was wondering when we would see a hero who could start fires. Claire's dad will probably be played by Eric Roberts. And I also wonder if Matt's wife is pregnant with his baby. It probably is, but it'd be really interesting if it wasn't.

JediTricks
02-01-2007, 08:49 PM
It never occurred to me that Matt's wife would be pregnant with the other guy's baby, and it never occurred to her either or Matt would have heard it. Oh man, I bet that'll come up now that all you guys are mentioning it.

LusiferSam
02-05-2007, 07:20 PM
Ok I'm going to go out on a limb and say Claire's dad is a totally new character. And he a bit unstable, either mentally or in ability.

Kidhuman
02-05-2007, 09:07 PM
Claires mom is a "Hero" too? And who is her dad? I say its one of 3 people....
Linderman, Sylar or Nathan. The watch at the end makes me think Sylar, the sleeves rolled up makes me think Nathan and Linderman, well just because what better way for him to be introduced and tied together with Mr. Bennett?


Oh yeah, SOME FAMILY Claire has got. Awesome episode. I had a feeling the Haitian was erasing Mrs Bennetts mind. I wonder how Nikki/Jessica got sprung, probably Linderman. Hiro played his sister like a playstation and got his way.

figrin bran
02-05-2007, 09:12 PM
Linderman isn't supposed to appear until after February sweeps but Claire's biological dad is going to be revealed shortly. therefore, it's likely to be someone else. maybe someone we haven't met yet?



Ok I'm going to go out on a limb and say Claire's dad is a totally new character. And he a bit unstable, either mentally or in abilit

i already claimed that limb a few weeks ago!

about 2 and 1/2 hours until showtime...luckily i have leftover chips from yesterday

Kidhuman
02-05-2007, 09:17 PM
SPOLIER BELOW:::::::::































Its Nathan damnit

General_Grievous
02-05-2007, 09:35 PM
HOLY S***! What an ending! And here I thought Claire's dad was gonna be played by Eric Roberts. I thought it was going to be a new character, but nope. I like it, though.

Jedi_Master_Guyute
02-05-2007, 11:09 PM
Very solid episode. I liked how Issac is getting a bit more playing time these days and I loved the part with the Invisible Brit and Peter, launching him off the building. And the build up of the power.....ended with a punch. Great stuff.

I really loved how we were JUST about to figure out HRG's first name, but got denied. Typical comic book stuff. Damn writers! :crazed:

And my guess on her father was on the $$. I rule. Can't wait for next week when Nikki and others finally start taking sides. :thumbsup:

figrin bran
02-06-2007, 12:11 AM
did anyone catch the license plate on Mr. Nakamura's limo? NCC-1701

General_Grievous
02-06-2007, 01:30 PM
Hey JMG, remember when you had your Peter avatar and the quote that said "I'm Peter Petrelli and I'm here to make you a woman..er...save you"? That's really creepy now considering that Peter is Claire's uncle. :p

JEDIpartner
02-06-2007, 01:53 PM
I totally knew it was going to be Nathan. He's been such a ho all his life and scattering his seed wherever he went. It's not a big surprise to me! I even called it last week!! LOL

I loved the way they kept teasing you with the revelation of Claire's adoptive father's name-- Sylar flashing his ID in front of him (The name line only read "Bennett") and then his wife talking to Sylar "I think it's funny that all you guys call him 'Mr. Bennett'. I just call him... (gets interrupted)"

LOL

JediTricks
02-07-2007, 05:35 PM
did anyone catch the license plate on Mr. Nakamura's limo? NCC-1701Drat, I missed that! Awesome Trek ref!


Well, there it is, another Heroes episode. Nathan being the dad felt a little too insular for me, it's not outside the realm of possibility at all (mom could have visited New York while in college and slept with Nathan, then went back to Texas and found out she was pregnant, Nathan or his mom or dad paid the girl to stay away) but it's one connection too many for that side of the Heroes world I think. But even that revelation worked really well, the episode moved itself along quite well and built up nicely. I didn't care for the payoff with Hiro's dad, a little too cut and dried, but generally I liked what was here.

The stuff with the invisible man teaching, that was good until they follow Simone to prove she's not as good as Peter thinks and then Peter accepts it even though everything she said and did there fit his perspective. The scene tossing him off the roof was good, the scene after with Peter realizing what's what with the powers was better. Having "Claude" mentor previous power-sponges felt a little off though.

Niki getting trapped in the closet mirror was a little odd, Linderman getting her out of jail worked alright but clearly he has plans for her.

Jedi_Master_Guyute
02-12-2007, 10:09 PM
Hey JMG, remember when you had your Peter avatar and the quote that said "I'm Peter Petrelli and I'm here to make you a woman..er...save you"? That's really creepy now considering that Peter is Claire's uncle. :p

lol heheh I thought about that too. It makes it a tad funnier though, in an awkward Leia/Luke sorta way.

CRAZY intense episode tonight between Matt and Jessica! I thought for sure he was finished. Although, I don't know how I feel about him yanking those diamonds though. That doesn't seem very Parkman-esque to me, but we'll see what he does. It was great to see a showdown though.

Claire and her debacle- her mom is a complete WENCH for lying to her about the $$, but then again, Nathan is a pretty **** poor father to boot. I was happy she chucked that rock at his car. He knew it was her, as he should know!

Mohinder and Sylar- YIKES. Just yikes. I was really really nervous about that whole scene was Sylar is a murdering beyatch and I like Mohinder. Kinda crazy to have them working together. And really ironic that Sylar knew Mohinder's father. And that new guy (briefly) power! Crazy! melt metal? Can he control metal all together or?

Ando/Hiro- stupid effin' Ando! This can't end well for him and I swore I saw him hurt/in action in the preview for next week, but i couldn't tell. I did chuckle at Hiro's "I come in peace" when that agent arrested him. I really hope he gets the sword soon cos i kinda miss him not zipping around time.

and next week, let's place bets about who dies (and if you've read spoilers, you shan't participate): i'm guessing Peter. I dunno why. Peter or Mohinder. We'll have to wait though.

I did watch HEROES via DVR tonight due to 2 hour 24, so next week, I do HEROES live. Pretty excited. :thumbsup:

Kidhuman
02-12-2007, 10:55 PM
Well, as for who dies, I think its Claires step-mom. Maybe its Ando. I can guarantee you Peter dont die, because future Hiro tells him he has a scar so :p to you on that.


Talking about Heroes at work and two people brought up good points. Peter is just like Sylar in the sense he absorbs powers, except Sylar eats brains and Peter has to be around them to do so. Very true point. The next one was better because Peter touched Sylar at the homecoming game, so did he absorb all the powers Sylar had at that time and doesnt know it yet?

figrin bran
02-13-2007, 12:26 AM
that Zane Taylor is such an idiot. can't he tell that Sylar and Mohinder don't sound alike in the least?

am i correct in thinking that Nathan has seen Claire before? at the police station in Odessa when he went to post bail for Peter.

i read spoilers so i guess i can't participate in guessing who the grim reaper comes to whisk away....

maybe it's Mr. Muggles? you see the way Mrs. Bennet looked at him? :p

JEDIpartner
02-13-2007, 09:57 AM
I thought the same thing about Zane. DUH!!!!!!

I totally called it a couple weeks ago when I said that Nikki's story was so vague and that the only direction I could see them taking her is into "bad guy" territory. It's kinda Jean Grey in some way... *shrug*

The acting on this show is terrible!! I think Hayden always turns in the best performances. I do have to give Adrian Pasdar props this week. He's usually a bastard but he showed some fine emotion when he was leaving the trailer park. Good job!

It's pretty evident that Mrs. Bennett's taken a few too many trips to "Mr. Black Hole", as we've been calling him. I'm surprised she didn't put Mr. Muggles into the pot of boiling water a la Fatal Attraction! LOL

I like the way Hiro was called "Sulu" when he was being pulled out of that storage closet! LOL I wonder what's going to happen to poor Ando?

General_Grievous
02-13-2007, 03:29 PM
Good episode. As for who dies next week, I think it'll be Claire's stepmom. Ando could also be a possibility.

Kidhuman
02-13-2007, 07:18 PM
Ando was in the future when Hiro went missing, so he cant die, unless they go by the story line that Hiro changed the time line and took Ando with him. I dunno.

Someone flies, who is that? We know that Nathan knows he can fly and has done it before. Could that be Peter who flies?

pegger
02-13-2007, 07:58 PM
So the line is what? Someone flies (Peter) someone dies? (I'm guessing Claire's adoptive mom), someone lies (HRG guy) and someone dies (again?)/// or did I hear it wrong?

Mad Slanted Powers
02-14-2007, 12:13 AM
that Zane Taylor is such an idiot. can't he tell that Sylar and Mohinder don't sound alike in the least? Sometimes voices can sound different on the phone. Plus, Sylar didn't say much, thus he could kill Zane before he got suspicious.

JediTricks
02-14-2007, 10:52 PM
You know, even though I didn't like where some of the plots took us and the amount of "misunderstandings" that were a little too contrived (Claire & Nathan, Hiro & Ando and the girl), the acting was good and the in-story writing was solid. I loved how Matt survived being thrown out that window, total luck. This was one of the weaker eps with one of the less exciting endings, but still fairly enjoyable and did move the plot along a little.

Matt's not a fool, how he thought he could just take those diamonds is really bad writing. The cops know there was no gold briefcase or dislodged ceiling tile a moment before he went back there, plus now his fingerprints are on the case.

Claire's mom is sleazy, no duh, kinda sad how they keep stringing Claire along with her. To be honest, this feels a little too 1-dimensional as well. As for Peter, he's already met Claire and knows she lives in Odessa, so I wanted him to say something about that, he didn't so maybe he knows what a sack of crap Claire's mom is, either way I bet he's going to Odessa, not back to New York.

Mohinder getting fooled by Sylar, that was a little too easy and pulled itself off only through the writers contrivances which is too bad. Should be interesting to see how that plays out since Mohinder is in the future premonitions with Peter exploding and he's Sylar-less.

Niki has to go a different route than just "Jessica bad", that is too easy - before Jessica was there to help Niki's life get easier, now she's a super action killer chick, it doesn't work as character development.


JMG, the new dead guy can melt ANYTHING, the toaster is part plastic, the phone is nearly all plastic, he melted both without trouble. I bet he could melt anything, though the writers might say "anything that's not alive" to keep it from being too powerful.

JP, you're totally right, her brain seems to be collapsing from all the mem-wipes. I wonder if that's what'll happen to the little brother as well. It's an interesting take, but I think they need to explain why it's happening a little to sell it.

Mad Slanted Powers
02-14-2007, 11:09 PM
Claire's mom is sleazy, no duh, kinda sad how they keep stringing Claire along with her. To be honest, this feels a little too 1-dimensional as well. As for Peter, he's already met Claire and knows she lives in Odessa, so I wanted him to say something about that, he didn't so maybe he knows what a sack of crap Claire's mom is, either way I bet he's going to Odessa, not back to New York.I'm guessing you mean Nathan here, not Peter.

JEDIpartner
02-15-2007, 12:45 PM
JP, you're totally right, her brain seems to be collapsing from all the mem-wipes. I wonder if that's what'll happen to the little brother as well. It's an interesting take, but I think they need to explain why it's happening a little to sell it.

I think they will eventually go there. It took an entire episode for them to get to "who got Nikki out of the hospital?" I should have seen the whole Linderman thing coming. It's a very incestuous thing with all these power players...

UKWildcat
02-15-2007, 01:10 PM
Just out of curiosity - Who is everyones favorite character?



Mine is Claude, the invisible guy. He is awesome! :thumbsup:

JEDIpartner
02-15-2007, 01:24 PM
I kinda like Claude and I like Claire. I also like the very Threepio/Artoo combination of Ando & Hiro.

Kidhuman
02-15-2007, 03:09 PM
I dont have a favorite, but if I were to pick one it would be Peter. The one I dislike the most though is Nathan.

JEDIpartner
02-15-2007, 03:34 PM
I think Nathan is handsome but he needs to eat a few pies.

General_Grievous
02-15-2007, 03:43 PM
Hiro is my favorite character. I also like Claude and Claire a lot. Sylar's a great villain. I also wish they had kept Charlie the waitress (aka Google Girl) on as a regular. She was a cutie. But Peter's got the best power on the show because he can absorb and utilize all of them.

P.S. I saw a new commercial for the next episode. It's Peter who flies. He probably learns to control that power.

figrin bran
02-15-2007, 09:37 PM
i liked Eden actually. others i like are Claire, Peter.

JediTricks
02-16-2007, 10:43 PM
I'm guessing you mean Nathan here, not Peter.NO! HOW DARE YOU QUESTION ME?!? I'VE NEVER BEEN SO INSULTED IN ALL MY LIFE!!!!!!!!

;) Yeah, I meant Nathan.



My favorite was Hiro, but the writers have gotten a little off-track with him in powers and in character development, so now it's probably Claire just because she's the first one that comes to mind when I think about all of the powered characters. Hopefully they'll get Hiro back on track and he'll be back to his old awesome self.

General_Grievous
02-19-2007, 09:24 PM
SPOILERS AHEAD


Wow. That was an amazing episode. At first, I thought the only person who was going to die was the she-man auto body shop worker. But boy was I wrong. I never expected it would be Simone. Well, I can't say I'll really miss her. But I wonder how this will affect both Peter and Isaac. Finally seeing Hana Gitelman was cool. I read the online comics with her and she had an interesting background involving Israel and the Mossad. I loved how Hana, Ted and Matt held a stakeout at the Bennets' house. I don't think Hiro and Ando will be apart for long. It's probably just another sidetrack in their journey.

P.S. How awesome was the Stan Lee cameo? I just wish his name wasn't in the credits in the beginning so it would have been more of a surprise.

P.P.S. Was that a "Lost" reference when Nathan said he would take all the "special" people and put them on an island in the middle of the ocean? I know it sounded general, but whenever someone says "island", I automatically think of "Lost".

Jedi_Master_Guyute
02-19-2007, 10:03 PM
SPOILERS AHEAD


Wow. That was an amazing episode. At first, I thought the only person who was going to die was the she-man auto body shop worker. But boy was I wrong. I never expected it would be Simone. Well, I can't say I'll really miss her. But I wonder how this will affect both Peter and Isaac. Finally seeing Hana Gitelman was cool. I read the online comics with her and she had an interesting background involving Israel and the Mossad. I loved how Hana, Ted and Matt held a stakeout at the Bennets' house. I don't think Hiro and Ando will be apart for long. It's probably just another sidetrack in their journey.

P.S. How awesome was the Stan Lee cameo? I just wish his name wasn't in the credits in the beginning so it would have been more of a surprise.

P.P.S. Was that a "Lost" reference when Nathan said he would take all the "special" people and put them on an island in the middle of the ocean? I know it sounded general, but whenever someone says "island", I automatically think of "Lost".

Agreed on the Stan Lee thing. I saw his name in the credits and was waiting for him the entire episode. HEROES might have a great writers, but they need to kinda keep a low key on the cameos. :thumbsup:

Great episode tonight. Enjoyed Peter flying and saving Invisible Brit. Cool to see him gaining some control over his powers. I was also pretty shocked to see him hulking out on Isaac. Hopefully, Simone gettin' capped will get him back to his senses and bring him back to good. And on that note, Parkman is totally going evil, but for the right reasons: he wants to find out what's wrong with him and help his family, but I just sense an evil streak in this guy.

I LOVED Ando and Hiro just leisurely chatting away while things were being blown up around them and it was kinda sad to see Hiro sending away Ando. Does this mean that Hiro was losing his powers due to Ando or?

I really enjoyed the interaction between Claire and HRG tonight, very intense. And sylar with Mohinder was great. Seems like ole' Sylar is having trouble controlling his new power!

Great episode. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Kidhuman
02-20-2007, 12:29 AM
Well, I didnt see Simone getting capped. I wonder if Peter will use his powers of stopping time and reversing it to save her. I was actually shocked to see Peter use a power he got from Sylar, he should have alot more of those in him.


I also htought the mechanic was going to be the only one who died. Hiro sending Ando away should have been foreseen becuase when Hiro got back from NYC, he was in the future and Ando was there, so he wasnt in NYC at t he time of the explosion and not in any of Peters premonitions of exploding


Claude will be back, but in what type of role I dont know.

Parkman teaming wth Ted and new girl is sweet. I am wondering if they will sway Claire to their side, should be an interesting play out.

Is next week finally Linderman? I hope so. It said we would find out who Bennett works for.

figrin bran
02-20-2007, 12:30 AM
i was out tonight and forgot to set the VCR in the morning and so i only caught the last 10 minutes.

i hope NBC can get tonight's episode up for viewing

Kidhuman
02-20-2007, 12:34 AM
If not, Sci-Fi replays it on Fridays.

figrin bran
02-20-2007, 12:38 AM
i don't have cable though so that won't do me any good. come on nbc! judging by the last 10 minutes, i sure missed a lot!

Jedi_Master_Guyute
02-20-2007, 07:21 AM
If not, Sci-Fi replays it on Fridays.

Actually, they don't replay it on Sci-fi anymore. At least, not in this region. www.nbc.com has episodes online the week following the airdate. :thumbsup:

pegger
02-20-2007, 08:17 AM
Well, I didnt see Simone getting capped. I wonder if Peter will use his powers of stopping time and reversing it to save her. I was actually shocked to see Peter use a power he got from Sylar, he should have alot more of those in him.

That was a great twist (Simone) I didn't see that one coming at all, especially since mechanic lady got it (which was very predictable).

When Peter used telekenisis - that was awesome too...



I also htought the mechanic was going to be the only one who died. Hiro sending Ando away should have been foreseen becuase when Hiro got back from NYC, he was in the future and Ando was there, so he wasnt in NYC at t he time of the explosion and not in any of Peters premonitions of exploding.

As long as they bring Ando back - he is my favorite character - mostly becuase he doesn't have powers...but he definately was an interesting character.



Claude will be back, but in what type of role I dont know.

Parkman teaming wth Ted and new girl is sweet. I am wondering if they will sway Claire to their side, should be an interesting play out.

Is next week finally Linderman? I hope so. It said we would find out who Bennett works for.

I think we will see Linderman next week. I was also very excited that the new girl was brought in - since her comic was in December! Also, I'm worried for Matt's wife...he's off in Texas - and Mohinder and Sylar are on their way to visit him....

Speaking of Sylar - I hope they kill him off soon. I'm not longer interested in this villian. He is just a murdering SOB now...They introduce a character, then have him kill them off. It's getting boring. I am looking forward to the showdown between him and Peter - but it better be at the end of this season...

General_Grievous
02-20-2007, 09:03 AM
Also, I'm worried for Matt's wife...he's off in Texas - and Mohinder and Sylar are on their way to visit him....


I don't think anything will happen to her. For one thing, she has no powers, so Sylar has no real reason to kill her (even though he did kill Mohinder's dad). I also think that Mohinder will discover "Zane's" true intentions and run the hell away from him. But if he did kill her, it would send Matt into a vigilante mode. He's already starting down that path with Ted and Hana.

pegger
02-20-2007, 09:40 AM
I don't think anything will happen to her. For one thing, she has no powers, so Sylar has no real reason to kill her (even though he did kill Mohinder's dad). I also think that Mohinder will discover "Zane's" true intentions and run the hell away from him. But if he did kill her, it would send Matt into a vigilante mode. He's already starting down that path with Ted and Hana.

The wife may not have powers....but the BABY may.....remember it is genetic.

General_Grievous
02-20-2007, 11:01 AM
It would be useless for Sylar to kill an unborn child because if it hasn't honed its powers, Sylar couldn't steal anything.

figrin bran
02-20-2007, 11:18 AM
Actually, they don't replay it on Sci-fi anymore. At least, not in this region. www.nbc.com has episodes online the week following the airdate. :thumbsup:

actually, they have last night's episode up so it only takes a day...

JediTricks
02-20-2007, 09:53 PM
Not the greatest episode, but good. So much happening and Simone getting shot was a great twist. Peter using a bunch of powers at once felt amazing to watch so I immediately rewatched it, that alone was payoff for watching every weak moment of the show. Claire yelling at her dad was good. Sylar being unable to control his new power was a good twist but I kinda wanted Mohinder to figure it out right there. Matt's situation sucked right up until he got drafted into the mutie army and ended up back in Odessa. Hiro finally busting through his mental block and using his power - even when he didn't know he was going it (or lied) - was awesome. Ando won't leave Hiro, he's still got to advertise all the great features of the Nissan Versa, official car of Heroes! ;)


P.S. How awesome was the Stan Lee cameo? I just wish his name wasn't in the credits in the beginning so it would have been more of a surprise. Good call! I was glad to see him, but having it a surprise would have been even better. Hopefully he'll be on next week's as well to drop Hiro off and have more than 1 line.


I think Hiro's failure to save Charlie twice put a subconcious block on his powers, he just needs training and confidence to really shine with it.


I don't think we'll get Linderman viewing till at least March.



Speaking of Sylar - I hope they kill him off soon. I'm not longer interested in this villian. He is just a murdering SOB now...They introduce a character, then have him kill them off. It's getting boring. I am looking forward to the showdown between him and Peter - but it better be at the end of this season...Yeah, I agree, Sylar as a plot device has started to drag the show down and as a character has stopped growing, it's time for them to move on.

Mad Slanted Powers
02-20-2007, 10:54 PM
I was also pretty shocked to see him hulking out on Isaac. That scene had me thinking of Darth Vader throwing stuff at Luke in ESB.

I enjoyed the episode quite a bit.

General_Grievous
02-20-2007, 11:06 PM
Yeah, I agree, Sylar as a plot device has started to drag the show down and as a character has stopped growing, it's time for them to move on.

I think that Sylar needs to disappear for about six or seven episodes, then show up again in the season finale. They probably won't kill him off since he's the villain of the show.

pegger
02-25-2007, 09:06 PM
OK..... What a FREAKING AWESOME EPISODE.

The developement of the HRG guy was fantastic...and not to give too much away, but I actually really respect the guy, and feel sorry for him.

The flashback were great too.

Interesting twists with Claude and Sulu in there too.

But great job tonight!

figrin bran
02-25-2007, 10:05 PM
lucky canada!

pegger
02-26-2007, 05:30 AM
lucky canada!

It wasn't on State side? Sorry guys - hope I didn't spoil anything....

Kidhuman
02-26-2007, 06:18 AM
We get our episode tonight at 9pm.

JediTricks
02-26-2007, 04:24 PM
Dang it, a friend of mine downloaded it from the Canadian airing and tried to spoil some of it.

Daz
02-26-2007, 06:48 PM
such an awsome ep ....its really starting to come into its own this show:thumbsup:

General_Grievous
02-26-2007, 07:37 PM
Why did you guys in Canada get it earlier?

pegger
02-26-2007, 08:13 PM
I honestly have no idea. Maybe 'cause the Oscars were on last night, and they needed to show something in their place? Heros was on again tonight too..

Jedi_Master_Guyute
02-26-2007, 09:07 PM
AMAZING episode, one of the best of the season/series thus far. The flashbacks were insanely awesome with HRG working for Hiros father! Didn't see that one coming and I wonder who Invisible Brit was hiding. But how INSANE was that scene in the house. Claire burning up was AWESOME and I'm liking how Parkman is kinda finding his way again. The whole show was intense and the ending with HRG taking a bullet for his daughter was just jaw dropping. Great series. God, i love this freakin' show. :thumbsup:

Next week: was SIMONE up and running?!!??!!! Gotta be a mind trick cos she was capped!!! All in all, FANTASTIC episode.

Dar' Argol
02-26-2007, 09:13 PM
Awesome Awesome episode!! What a turn around. I cannot wait to see next weeks episode.


Sweet!

General_Grievous
02-26-2007, 09:16 PM
Well, that was a damn good episode. I kind of wish we could have learned Bennett's first name, but whatever. I didn't quite understand the last scene, though. Why did HRG need to be shot? And the siege at the Bennett house...I guess we know now that Ted is a vengeful crackpot. Where was Hana? I really thought she would go with Ted and Matt. It was great seeing HRG's flashbacks. It was almost like an episode of "Lost", but with way more action. And who is this new chick? They just keep adding more and more cast members to the show. But since they keep killing off characters, I guess it's not so bad. And finally, it was cool seeing a ten year old Hiro playing his Game Boy.


NEXT WEEK SPOILERS

From the previews, it looks like Simone is alive! WTF??!??!!! :eek:

EDIT: Never mind about my questions. Thanks to wikipedia, I know that HRG was shot to make it look like the Haitian took Claire and that Hana left Matt and Ted after their meeting in the graveyard to go hunt down some pedophile. I still don't know who that new girl at Primatech is, though.

Kidhuman
02-26-2007, 11:12 PM
But wasnt she in the house at the end of last weeks show?

Anyways, loved the epsiode. The back story on Bennett was amazing. Hiros dad and all was shocking. Claude was great and now we know why he was hiding but who is he hiding? Also, Parkman was great. He played Ted kind of sweet in the house.

And eric freakin Roberts. His name wasnt dropped, wonder who he is. Linderman appears next week, should be a great epsidoe. I thought Peter would have rewound time to save Simone, but it seems she is a Claire??

sith_killer_99
02-26-2007, 11:49 PM
Yeah, it didn't make sense that Simone was supposed to be a "Hero" but we never really saw her power. Now it makes sense.

Daz
02-27-2007, 07:16 AM
sith_killer_99
Yeah, it didn't make sense that Simone was supposed to be a "Hero" but we never really saw her power. Now it makes sense.


Or Peter just used Hiro time travel power to go back and save her ....... bit of a cop out I know but just as likely.

One has to assume that claude must have been holding on for dear life off that bridge coz unless we add indestructability to his powers theres no way he could survive that fall.


kidhuman
Claude was great and now we know why he was hiding but who is he hiding?

maybe it was hrg's cute new partner

figrin bran
02-27-2007, 11:04 AM
it'll be interesting to see just how much of HRG's mind was wiped out. it was also interesting to see that Mr. Nakamura was apparently very high up in HRG's agency's hierarchy...perhaps he was hiding Hiro in the same way that HRG was hiding Claire?


i think the Simone appearance is a trick. dead is dead.

Claire's getting good at pulling people out of fires

sith_killer_99
02-27-2007, 12:16 PM
One has to assume that claude must have been holding on for dear life off that bridge coz unless we add indestructability to his powers theres no way he could survive that fall.

Here's an interesting twist. Did anyone notice how HRG showed the Hatian exactly where to shoot him (2 inches up and I'm dead).

What if he shot Claude in a way that he figured...Claude would live!!!:eek:

Of course he knew Claude would go underground after the assassination attempt. Then when Claude is discovered he says "Ooops, well we gotta go after him now.

Hmmm....

Just a theory, afterall Claude did bring up Clair!

JediTricks
02-27-2007, 08:10 PM
Great episode, and I'm glad they didn't try to thread a bunch of other characters' B-plots through the episode, it let them tell enough of this specific part of the story. Some great uses of the powers all around, and finally "save the cheerleader, save the world" appears to have come true since without her Ted would have nuked Odessa and that might have started a nuclear war. Eric Roberts showing up in "today time" near the end was a surprise, then him not doing much of anything was even more surprising since you'd expect them to make him do something major in the plot instead of basically being a bystander. Claire saving the day reminded me of X-men 3's resolution except without being terrible. :p Hiro's dad and the Bennett Bunch was a good one, being up on that roof you have to think Simone's dad (Richard Roundtree) was involved with the group at the highest levels too, which may play into Simone's appearance in the trailer for next week.

The shot in the trailer of what we're supposed to think is Linderman looked like Donald Sutherland from the side view.

General_Grievous
02-27-2007, 08:34 PM
The shot in the trailer of what we're supposed to think is Linderman looked like Donald Sutherland from the side view.

You thought so too?

figrin bran
02-27-2007, 09:22 PM
i suppose it was done for purposes of dramatic tension but what the heck was HRG doing just huddling in the corner while Ted was going to mushroom cloud everything in sight any moment? normally a thorough do whatever it takes kind of guy, it seemed like he was suffering bouts of Matt Parkman indecision :p

it'll be really cheap if Peter's set to nuclear detonate situation plays out like this one and is resolved by Claire rushing in to tranquilize him.

edit: actually, i take that back. i went back to watch a second time and HRG didn't huddle in the corner for as long as i thought.

Kidhuman
02-27-2007, 10:44 PM
Or Peter just used Hiro time travel power to go back and save her ....... bit of a cop out I know but just as likely.



I dont think Peter rewound time because Simone still had blood on her shirt saying "You wanna shoot me again". So she survived the shooting

My wife just said Donald Sutherland also.

sith_killer_99
02-27-2007, 11:22 PM
Or Peter just used Hiro time travel power to go back and save her ....... bit of a cop out I know but just as likely.


I dont think Peter rewound time because Simone still had blood on her shirt saying "You wanna shoot me again". So she survived the shooting

Yeah besides, it doesn't really fit the story. Hiro couldn't go back and save his girlfriend, so how would time travel save Simone.

figrin bran
02-27-2007, 11:24 PM
regarding Simone - if you watch the preview carefully, you'll notice that as she's speaking, there's also a body lying down in the background that looks an awful lot like her. supposedly "lab girl", the new member of HRG's organization is a shapeshifter. put 2 and 2 together and...

Phantom-like Menace
02-28-2007, 01:23 AM
Phenomenal episode! There was so much awesome going on there I wonder what they have left for the end of the season. Clearly Hiro has to get his sword, and we have to see Linderman, but the only one of the two of those I really care about is Hiro. I am curious who Claude was hiding.

I almost shivered when Claude appeared on the desk. That was great. No wonder he knows as much as he does. Oddly one of the biggest moments for me was when so many things came together in the flashback on the rooftop. The rooftop, Sulu, Hiro, Claude, HRG, Claire, and I love that Japanese is used so frequently in this series, and I'm looking forward to learning more about Takezo Kensai. I'm kind of annoyed they used the spelling k-e-n-s-a-i, since I might have recognized the more common spelling of kensei meaning sword saint. I never considered that Simone's father would be connected, though I should have, but I also didn't notice it was Richard Roundtree. I'm kind of upset by that.


Claire saving the day reminded me of X-men 3's resolution except without being terrible. :p

Nice!


supposedly "lab girl", the new member of HRG's organization is a shapeshifter.

Why anyone with that nice a shape would want to shift from it, I have no idea. I like your theory, though. I'm convinced Simone is dead and nothing more.

Daz
02-28-2007, 03:58 AM
kidhuman
I dont think Peter rewound time because Simone still had blood on her shirt saying "You wanna shoot me again". So she survived the shooting



Yeh you see I didnt see the preview fo next weeks one


sith_killer_99
Yeah besides, it doesn't really fit the story. Hiro couldn't go back and save his girlfriend, so how would time travel save Simone.


my understanding was he could save her from Sylar but not from the aneurysm .......not some metaphysical she was meant to die mumbo jumbo, her aneurysm was inoperable it wouldnt have mattered how far back he went .Simone seeming death on the other hand he could have stopped.

JediTricks
02-28-2007, 03:42 PM
I never considered that Simone's father would be connected, though I should have, but I also didn't notice it was Richard Roundtree. I'm kind of upset by that.Well, he was in a coma in the pilot and died there, and we only saw him speak briefly in a dream sequence in the 7th episode, so it's easy to not notice it was Shaft playing the character. I saw his name in the credits and was sure the old guy would wake up and do something in the first ep, but he didn't - so surprising. I figure that alone had to connect him to a flashback later on, but so far the only connection has been his rooftop for Claude, and the group meeting in the flashback. Still, why would these guys use his rooftop balcony so freely if he weren't connected?


Charlie's blood clot being inoperable I just realized is not entirely accurate - Hiro could have gone to medical school, honed his skills at that surgery, then performed it while time was stopped. With time stopped, the clot couldn't burst and cause a brain bleed because only Hiro can move objects while time is stopped so it couldn't bleed out. This is a pretty unlikely scenario to happen, but the possibility is there.

General_Grievous
03-01-2007, 03:40 PM
I'm proud to present the first DVD news for "Heroes".

From The Digital Bits:

3/1/07

Now for that Universal news. Let's start with HD-DVD. Specific dates are still TBA, but here's what the studio is prepping for high-definition over the summer (most of the April and May titles are already confirmed):

April - The Good Shepherd, Smokin' Aces, The Game, The Jerk, The Hitcher, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, The Nutty Professor

May - Alpha Dog, The 40-Year-Old Virgin: Unrated, Smokey and the Bandit, Hurricane, Skeleton Key, The River, Midnight Run, The Frighteners, The Big Lebowski, Dragonheart, Lost in Translation

June - Breach, Bruce Almighty, Liar Liar, Sneakers, Born on the 4th of July, Scent of a Women, Daylight, Monty Python's The Meaning of Life, Meet Joe Black, Mallrats, Being John Malkovich, Mystery Men, American Me, The Watcher, Bulletproof

July - Billy Madison, The War, The Wedding Date, Dante's Peak, Cat in the Hat, Dead Silence, The Bourne Identity, The Nutty Professor 2, In Good Company, Streets of Fire, Hot Fuzz, Sea of Love, Darkman, Shaun of the Dead, Deliver Us from Eva

August - Heroes: Season One

September - The Last Starfighter, Legend, Battlestar Galactica: Season One, For the Love of the Game, Knocked Up, Evening, The Getaway: Unrated, Patch Adams, Cat People


Now this is for HD-DVD, but there's a 99.9% chance that it will also be released for regular ol' DVD the same day. So we can expect the first season on DVD in August. :thumbsup:

sith_killer_99
03-01-2007, 06:30 PM
Now this is for HD-DVD, but there's a 99.9% chance that it will also be released for regular ol' DVD the same day. So we can expect the first season on DVD in August.

HD-DVD is going to be dead in a year or two, but that's just my opinion. Anyway it may be nice to see this set on DVD. I'm really in no rush since I already have all the episodes downloaded from iTunes. Still it may be interesting to see what special features they will have for the release.:yes:

General_Grievous
03-01-2007, 07:17 PM
I've been tempted to download them from iTunes, but I'm holding out for the DVD. I'm sure it'll be packed with extras and commentaries. I wonder when in August it will be released. Hopefully as early as possible.

Kidhuman
03-01-2007, 07:36 PM
It probably will be around August because the 2nd season would be on TV in September and I dont see NBC replaying the reruns all summer.

General_Grievous
03-05-2007, 09:14 PM
Whoa. :eek:

What an ending. Now we know how Peter gets his scar. They really know how to pull off a cliffhanger ending. That new chick who can shapeshift really screwed HRG over. And Linderman...I was actually hoping it would be Donald Sutherland, but instead we get Malcolm McDowell...the B-list Donald Sutherland. A minor disappointment, though. The Sylar-Suresh subplot took an interesting turn. I just can't understand why Sylar kept Mohinder alive. Ando coming to the rescue was a great twist too. It just sucks that we have to wait until April 23rd for more new episodes. But I have a feeling the last few episodes will be well worth the wait.


BTW, could that Spider-Man 3 spot have been any shorter? I was hoping they'd show something that lasted more than 15 seconds.

Phantom-like Menace
03-06-2007, 06:04 AM
Damn, I forgot about Peter's scar. Good call.

I figured HRG's partner was going to expose him as soon as that scene began.

It was really cool to find that Mama Petrelli isn't as clueless as she appeared, and it's awesome that she's all tied up in this.

No Claude.:upset: HRG's partner wears a little skirt well.:yes: Hiro got his sword!:ninja: :D

Kidhuman
03-06-2007, 06:05 AM
Awesome freakin ending. Figrin was right and it was the n00b changing into Simone.

HRG is screwed it seems.

The whole Mohinder/Sylar thing was pretty cool, he should hve shot first, got DNA second when he had him drugged.

I knew Ando would be back as I saw it in previews, but pretty sweet none the less. Wonder if and when they get back to normal time. Ando piggybacking on Hiro's transporting was cool.

The whole Sylar/Peter meeting is pretty cool. I am betting Claude is going to save him, I cant think of anything else that can at this point.

Nathan and Linderman, kind of disappointed in Malcom McDoweell, but a decent choice. Still wanna know what his schtick is, powers or fronting the whole paper company or both is my guess.

The S3 preview was lame, now to go to NBC.com for the other 7.5 minutes

pegger
03-06-2007, 06:19 AM
i was really hoping for Sutherland too.

I'm gald they changed up Nathan's character a bit. He's not such a prick after all.

i was so happy to see Ando...He's may favvorite character.

I'm hoping that we get a mini battle next week between Sylar and Peter, and that's how he gets out of it.

Looks like Isaac is still gonna die (painted his own death)

I think Mohinder is still alive, becuase Sylar needs him to work the program. That's the only reason.

HRG character just keeps on getting more and more interesting. I hope they don't kill him off.

Kidhuman
03-06-2007, 07:15 AM
Have we al forgotten about Nathan and Petes mom with the Haitian? That was kind of odd to see. I wonder if she has powers as well.

JEDIpartner
03-06-2007, 08:21 AM
I was floored when Claire showed up at the apartment and Peter's mom told Claire that she her granmother and that she was stubborn like her father. I loved the line "I've been trying to protect you but you've been making that rather difficult for me." It was such great delivery!

The acting on this show's been pretty bad in the past but everyone seems to be getting better and the characters are so beautifully realised.

I was happy to see Ando come back as well. :)

JediTricks
03-07-2007, 07:19 PM
This was an unusual episode in that it had more "downs" than usual but still pulled it together by the second half. I was most disappointed by Issac's behavior in general, Linderman's casting and behavior (Malcolm McDowell just feels so wrong here), Bennett's wife not having her mind wiped and then telling Bennett all about what just went down right when he was under suspicion, and Sylar being powerless yet still somehow able to shut off the IV - that was just incredibly clumsy writing. Ando helping Hiro was really good, but I wish there had been more time between him taking off and saving Hiro - it seemed too short an amount of time for him to either steal the security outfit or get that job.

I dunno what it was, but I always suspected Nathan wasn't the bad guy he seemed, that was a good twist how he was working with the FBI before he even started running for office.

I knew HRG's wife was BS when her phone rang normal instead of with Mr Muggles' bark, I wish he had caught that too.

Bennett's new partner wasn't a shape-shifter, she altered others' perceptions of reality, like a psychic hologram, that's how she was able to hide Simone's body.



Damn, I forgot about Peter's scar. Good call.I'll second that.



It was really cool to find that Mama Petrelli isn't as clueless as she appeared, and it's awesome that she's all tied up in this.That was mixed for me, on the one hand it did feel good to finally have a surprise character not be evil, but on the other hand her comments about Peter & Nathan's father having depression over thinking he had powers leading to his death felt like she was a stringent anti-believer rather than just someone hiding something.



The whole Sylar/Peter meeting is pretty cool. I am betting Claude is going to save him, I cant think of anything else that can at this point. I think Peter is going to save himself and Mohinder, Peter's got powers like healing, flight, even time-travel, and many others. I wish Mohinder had just ended or at least successfully subdued Sylar though, I'm growing more tired of Sylar.



Looks like Isaac is still gonna die (painted his own death)I wasn't sure WHO he was painting there, the facial hair in the drawing threw me and it didn't look much like anybody we knew - I figured maybe the facial hair might mean "Ted" and Sylar is the exploding man, but then it didn't look like Ted either.


HRG character just keeps on getting more and more interesting. I hope they don't kill him off.Ditto, though I also hope they don't make him a good guy.

General_Grievous
03-07-2007, 08:53 PM
I knew HRG's wife was BS when her phone rang normal instead of with Mr Muggles' bark, I wish he had caught that too.
Good call, I never even noticed that.


Ditto, though I also hope they don't make him a good guy.
He practically already is a good guy, or at least his intentions are good.

JediTricks
03-07-2007, 09:53 PM
His intentions are good in regards to Claire, but he's still willing to do bad things for the company with everybody else.

figrin bran
03-07-2007, 10:00 PM
I think Peter is going to save himself and Mohinder, Peter's got powers like healing, flight, even time-travel, and many others. I wish Mohinder had just ended or at least successfully subdued Sylar though, I'm growing more tired of Sylar.




i concur as it seems that we've seen all there is to see of sylar and he's no longer very interesting. a villain with a cadre of different powers and is always hungry to acquire more and yet somehow the writers turned him into a one note bore.

JEDIpartner
03-08-2007, 01:18 PM
My Mohinder/Sylar moment during the show was pretty funny.

The dialogue went something like...

Sylar: "What are you going to do now? Kill me?"

Mohinder looks at Sylar.

Dale (in Mohinder voice): "No, I'm going to tweeze your eyebrows so you don't look like such a caveman. Now hold still!!"

Jedi_Master_Guyute
03-08-2007, 01:25 PM
See, I don't mind Malcom Macdowell as Linderman; i just wish they wouldn't have had his name IN THE BEGINNING CREDITS. That kinda spoils it for the rest of the show. They did last time with George Takei i believe too. It's supposed to be a shocker and revelation, then by God, don't SHOW US THE NAME IN THE CREDITS. :upset: But I liked the character so far. He tempted Nathan and succeeded. I swear, Nathan is becoming more and more unlikable.

I'm REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY hoping for a good Sylar/Peter fight. Peter can heal himself, has lots of powers and can also absorb Sylars powers and God only knows how many powers Sylar has stolen. I want some epic awesomeness, like Doc Ock/Spidey falling off the building fighting epicness. :thumbsup:

I liked Mama Petrelli and Claire and JP was right: her delivery in that scene was great. Commenting on how Claire was stubborn just like her father; quite cute!! I KNEW HRG was screwed as soon as he got into that hotel room. Something just felt off. I wonder what they'll do with him. Torture could be making him a B-movie star like Eric Roberts! Noooooo! :lipsrsealed:

I LOVED Hiro in this episode. His giddiness when he saw Nathan with FLYING MAN! was great and the "Yaaaaaaaaaaaattaaaaaaaaa!" when he got the sword was good stuff. Nice twist having Ando save his arse; didn't see that one coming.

April 23rd can't come soon enough! :thumbsup:

Kidhuman
03-08-2007, 02:42 PM
Linderman's casting and behavior (Malcolm McDowell just feels so wrong here),


I agree, a decent person to play the political part of Linderman, but not the tough guy wannabe mobster.





I think Peter is going to save himself and Mohinder, Peter's got powers like healing, flight, even time-travel, and many others. I wish Mohinder had just ended or at least successfully subdued Sylar though, I'm growing more tired of Sylar.


I was thinking that too, that he could just fly off, or maybe turn invisible and throw Sylar off. I forgot about the healing powers that he has which would heal his cut, but why would he still have a scar though if Claire never got any from her situations?


Funny moment while watching with Mrs KH the other night. At one point the convo was this:

Mrs KH: Peter is one of my favorite characters, but he needs to cut that lock of hair.

ME: Yeah its getting a little long

Fast forward to the end:

Me: You got your wish.

JediTricks
03-08-2007, 08:32 PM
Something I meant to mention before - how stupid is Nathan? "This gun, I just told you it killed 2 FBI guys, why don't you hold onto it and try to shoot someone with it Nathan, thereby getting your fingerprints all over it and covering your hands in its gunpowder?"

Also, one thing I cannot stand in any movie or TV show is like what happened with Hiro - he's standing a foot away from the sword, the thing that will save him as soon as he touches it when he gets caught - does he grab it and use his powers? NO! Of course not, instead he stops and waits to talk with the guy who catches him. Just grab the thing and go!


My Mohinder/Sylar moment during the show was pretty funny.

The dialogue went something like...

Sylar: "What are you going to do now? Kill me?"

Mohinder looks at Sylar.

Dale (in Mohinder voice): "No, I'm going to tweeze your eyebrows so you don't look like such a caveman. Now hold still!!"Dude, as long as Ted Sprauge is on this hsow, no way Sylar can be called a caveman. :p Apparently, the actor who plays Ted, his family thinks it's funny that everybody thinks he's one of the Geico cavemen.



See, I don't mind Malcom Macdowell as Linderman; i just wish they wouldn't have had his name IN THE BEGINNING CREDITS. That kinda spoils it for the rest of the show. They did last time with George Takei i believe too. It's supposed to be a shocker and revelation, then by God, don't SHOW US THE NAME IN THE CREDITS. :upset: This is a good point, it's not the only show to do it either and it always drives me nuts. When Willem Dafoe showed up in Spider-Man 2, that was a fantastic surprise. But I suspect it has something to do with union rules.


Torture could be making him a B-movie star like Eric Roberts!Loosely-defining the word "star" there, huh? ;)




I forgot about the healing powers that he has which would heal his cut, but why would he still have a scar though if Claire never got any from her situations?I was wondering that myself right after I posted. Maybe this won't be the scar that Hiro was referring to, or maybe something about Sylar's powers causes it to heal funky.

Mad Slanted Powers
03-08-2007, 10:10 PM
I agree, a decent person to play the political part of Linderman, but not the tough guy wannabe mobster.He did plenty of ultra-violence in A Clockwork Orange. I missed his name in the credits so I wasn't expecting him. I thought it was cool that he was in it.

I didn't quite make out what Isaac was painting, but I was thinking that maybe he would paint something happening to Mohinder and then go try to warn him. He might distract Sylar enough for Peter to get an advantage.

pegger
03-09-2007, 07:14 AM
I didn't quite make out what Isaac was painting, but I was thinking that maybe he would paint something happening to Mohinder and then go try to warn him. He might distract Sylar enough for Peter to get an advantage.

He painted himself... with no top of the head (ala Sylar)

Mad Slanted Powers
03-09-2007, 06:25 PM
He painted himself... with no top of the head (ala Sylar)
That was one thought that I had when I saw it, especially since Hiro had already seen it in the future as well.

pegger
04-10-2007, 02:29 PM
Anyone been reading the on-line comic???

If not - go read the last 4 or 5 episodes...Very interesting twist revealed in the comic!

RooJay
04-10-2007, 11:59 PM
Anyone know when this show's coming back? This is getting to be more ridiculous than the wait for lost - I've forgotten most of the details of where we left off! Seems not many people are still talking about the show anymore either.:(

figrin bran
04-11-2007, 12:01 AM
Heroes comes back 4/23

Kidhuman
04-11-2007, 06:28 AM
If it wasnt for 24, I would be having serious TV withdrawls on Monday night.
















Rogue II was the man shot in Reno

RooJay
04-11-2007, 08:41 AM
Remember the good old days when the most you'd have to wait for new episodes of your favorite show was a couple weeks? The networks put millions into these shows nowadays and they can't even finish all their episodes on time!

General_Grievous
04-23-2007, 05:38 PM
It's back tonight! I couldn't have waited any longer!

General_Grievous
04-23-2007, 09:02 PM
Whoa.....welcome back, "Heroes". Even though it's only been a month and a half, it was kind of like seeing an old friend who had been gone for a while. Man, I missed this show. It's sad that there's only one month left until the season finale.

Major spoilers for those who haven't seen it yet...

The episode itself was good. I was surprised that Mohinder didn't remove the glass from Peter's head. He did see it, didn't he? Either way, Claire knew what to do. I was also surprised that Mohinder didn't at least make an attempt to apprehend or kill Sylar after he knocked him out. I actually wasn't expecting Linderman to have any powers. I just thought he'd be kind of a puppeteer who pulls the strings, which is what he does, in a sense. But I wasn't expecting powers from him. He does have an interesting one. That shapeshifting chick is going to get her *** handed to her in a paper bag by Jessica for that stunt she pulled with Micah. Man, things are going to get interesting with that. Poor Isaac. I wasn't expecting him to die until the season finale. But at least he died a noble death. That end scene with Sylar painting the future was just chilling. But the best, and I mean absolute best moment of the episode was Hiro meeting his future self.

Can't wait until next week's future themed episode. :thumbsup:

Jedi_Master_Guyute
04-23-2007, 09:07 PM
Whoa.....welcome back, "Heroes". Even though it's only been a month and a half, it was kind of like seeing an old friend who had been gone for a while. Man, I missed this show. It's sad that there's only one month left until the season finale.

Major spoilers for those who haven't seen it yet...

The episode itself was good. I was surprised that Mohinder didn't remove the glass from Peter's head. He did see it, didn't he? Either way, Claire knew what to do. I was also surprised that Mohinder didn't at least make an attempt to apprehend or kill Sylar after he knocked him out. I actually wasn't expecting Linderman to have any powers. I just thought he'd be kind of a puppeteer who pulls the strings, which is what he does, in a sense. But I wasn't expecting powers from him. He does have an interesting one. That shapeshifting chick is going to get her *** handed to her in a paper bag by Jessica for that stunt she pulled with Micah. Man, things are going to get interesting with that. Poor Isaac. I wasn't expecting him to die until the season finale. But at least he died a noble death. That end scene with Sylar painting the future was just chilling. But the best, and I mean absolute best moment of the episode was Hiro meeting his future self.

Can't wait until next week's future themed episode. :thumbsup:

Welcome back, indeed!!

I kept yelling, "take the damn glass out of his head! Dammit, somebody just yeah, there you go Clarie, good thinking...Jesus!" :crazed:

I really enjoyed HRG helping Parkman and Ted escape. And Ted can do EMP'S?! Awesome. That was a great scene.

And Isaac finally bit the dust; poor guy, had to get his own brushes in his wrists! insult to injury! And yeah, Sylar painting was just creepy. It had his own uber creepy touch to it. Very well done.

So, if Ando and Hiro are bumping into future Hiro, he already has this all mapped out and is trying to fix it. I really have no idea where this could lead and that's why i'm enjoying it very very much. Only four more episodes! eeek! Awesome show!! :thumbsup:

Kidhuman
04-23-2007, 09:08 PM
I wanna know what Peter and Nathans moms power is. That should be interesting.

Hiro meeting himself should be sweet.

I was hoping Mohinder killed Sylar when he was K.O'd. I knew Claire would pull the piece of glass out, was just wondering where it hit him.

Jessica is going to rip that girl a new a-hole. Linderman is gonna get his too I think.

I knew HRG was working for Linderman. About time they said it.

I was also wondering when Peter and Ted where going to meet for Peter to go nuclear and now we know.

Where was the Haitian in all of this and Eric ROberts and Mohinder teaming up should be interesting

General_Grievous
04-23-2007, 09:24 PM
I wanna know what Peter and Nathans moms power is. That should be interesting.
Forgot to mention that. Yeah, I really want to find that out, too. Do you think she can see the future also?



Jessica is going to rip that girl a new a-hole. Linderman is gonna get his too I think.

I think the shapeshifter's definitely a dead girl walking (I'm actually anticipating seeing how Jessica will flip out on her), but I think Linderman will be sticking around for a while. Even taking her temper into consideration, somehow I don't see Jessica even attacking him, let alone killing him.

RooJay
04-24-2007, 01:10 AM
Now that is some darned fine television!

One thought I had after the revelation of Linderman's power - was that plant dead, or just dying? I think you all know what I'm getting at.

A brief aside - did they show Isaac's eyes while he was painting those last pieces? Sylar seemed to be taking cues from them; I wonder what are the chances that Isaac had hid the real paintings after seeing what was going to happen and painting new one's sans powers in an effort to manipulate Sylar? I know there's not much evidence for that, but I thought it would've been a cool idea. Who knows? Maybe Isaac saw that Linderman could bring him back? Not likely I know, but I have a hard time dealing with deaths of characters to whom I've become attached.:thumbsup:

figrin bran
04-24-2007, 01:15 AM
Now that is some darned fine television!

One thought I had after the revelation of Linderman's power - was that plant dead, or just dying? I think you all know what I'm getting at.

A brief aside - did they show Isaac's eyes while he was painting those last pieces? Sylar seemed to be taking cues from them; I wonder what are the chances that Isaac had hid the real paintings after seeing what was going to happen and painting new one's sans powers in an effort to manipulate Sylar? I know there's not much evidence for that, but I thought it would've been a cool idea. Who knows? Maybe Isaac saw that Linderman could bring him back? Not likely I know, but I have a hard time dealing with deaths of characters to whom I've become attached.:thumbsup:

there might be sketches of the real paintings in that sketchbook that he gave to the dude that i assume is a courier or a representative from the comic book publisher.

pegger
04-24-2007, 05:44 AM
Now that is some darned fine television!

One thought I had after the revelation of Linderman's power - was that plant dead, or just dying? I think you all know what I'm getting at.

A brief aside - did they show Isaac's eyes while he was painting those last pieces? Sylar seemed to be taking cues from them; I wonder what are the chances that Isaac had hid the real paintings after seeing what was going to happen and painting new one's sans powers in an effort to manipulate Sylar? I know there's not much evidence for that, but I thought it would've been a cool idea. Who knows? Maybe Isaac saw that Linderman could bring him back? Not likely I know, but I have a hard time dealing with deaths of characters to whom I've become attached.:thumbsup:

If you read the on-line comic - Linderman can only heal living things - he can't bring them back to life.

I think the clue to how to stop Sylar was in the comic. I wouldn't be surprised if Hiro comes back from the future and saves Isaac...

I thought the fight scene between Sylar and Peter was awesome too, although, as my wife said, why would you turn your back to Sylar, even if you were invisible?

JediTricks
04-24-2007, 05:33 PM
NBC is an idiot for keeping this show off the air for so long! Good episode, but I was very frustrated with 3 things:
1) the constant "can't change the future" attitude;
2) Issac lets himself die and they don't even explain what that was about;
3) Sylar's unconscious and Mohinder had already attempted to kill him, why not do so now?

That last one is sorta unforgivable, it's the worst kind of sloppy contrived writing that exists just to perpetuate characters that they don't have time to replace.

I was a little annoyed that Linderman and possibly Mrs. Patrelli have powers, not everything has to be related or superpowered.

Still, what worked in this ep worked very well, I am glad that they're still able to throw me curve balls and surprises like Fakor pretending to be Niki/Jessica with Micah, her mind-frak powers seem to work great.

Parkman really should have gotten further away from Ted in case it didn't work as expected. :p

I wanted more talk between Claire and Nathan, or Claire and Peter. Where was the Haitian?

Eric Roberts redeemed himself here by bringing a natural A-game style to the part this time.

Sylar's paintings being twisted was a great touch!



I thought the fight scene between Sylar and Peter was awesome too, although, as my wife said, why would you turn your back to Sylar, even if you were invisible?That's a damn good point, I had the same thought, I actually was hoping he'd be BEHIND Sylar, I guess this should have gone on my nitpicks above.

Kidhuman
04-24-2007, 07:03 PM
I thought he was behind Sylar as well. I dont understand why he would be in front of him with his back turned, kind of dumb.

figrin bran
04-24-2007, 09:50 PM
While i can't be certain, i think Linderman is going to use Micah to rig the election in Nathan's favor.

Sylar is really lucky to be alive and that everyone seems to suffer brain lapses that ensure his survival. Kind of makes the brain lapses that they have on Smallville seem minor by comparison.

I think they really missed the boat in terms of character development for Sylar. As he is right now, he's nothing more than a power hungry killing machine with little character depth (like your garden variety meteor freak of the week on Smallville) "brain man" as Hiro and Ando called him. Had they shown him experiencing some internal conflict, it would probably make him more interesting to viewers.

RooJay
04-25-2007, 12:51 AM
I thought the fight scene between Sylar and Peter was awesome too, although, as my wife said, why would you turn your back to Sylar, even if you were invisible?

If a bunch of jagged, broken glass was flying at my face I'm certain I'd turn away from it as well. Sucks to be stabbed in the back by a shard of glass, but I'd think protecting the face and front torso would be just a normal human reaction.

Phantom-like Menace
04-25-2007, 12:59 AM
Lot's to quote here. Thank goodness for multiquote.


That shapeshifting chick is going to get her *** handed to her in a paper bag by Jessica for that stunt she pulled with Micah.

I just wish her *** was still in that miniskirt.


Sylar's paintings being twisted was a great touch!

Absolutely! That was a great idea to have Sylar's painting reflect his twisted take on the future especially directly contrasted with Isaac's take.


That's a damn good point, I had the same thought, I actually was hoping he'd be BEHIND Sylar, I guess this should have gone on my nitpicks above.


If a bunch of jagged, broken glass was flying at my face I'm certain I'd turn away from it as well. Sucks to be stabbed in the back by a shard of glass, but I'd think protecting the face and front torso would be just a normal human reaction.

Yeah it's easy if he panicked to run away which he could have been doing, but I thought he should just duck.


While i can't be certain, i think Linderman is going to use Micah to rig the election in Nathan's favor.

Nice theory. That would work very well.

pegger
04-25-2007, 05:33 AM
If a bunch of jagged, broken glass was flying at my face I'm certain I'd turn away from it as well. Sucks to be stabbed in the back by a shard of glass, but I'd think protecting the face and front torso would be just a normal human reaction.

But he wasn't turning - he was standing, flat footed...Also, I bleive the normal reation would be to raise the arms to protect the face....

I would have ducked....

I hate it when guys throw glass at me using TK anyways...

pegger
04-25-2007, 05:39 AM
While i can't be certain, i think Linderman is going to use Micah to rig the election in Nathan's favor.

Does no one here read the on-line comic besides me???


I think they really missed the boat in terms of character development for Sylar. As he is right now, he's nothing more than a power hungry killing machine with little character depth (like your garden variety meteor freak of the week on Smallville) "brain man" as Hiro and Ando called him. Had they shown him experiencing some internal conflict, it would probably make him more interesting to viewers.

I agree with you. Actually, when he killed the hearing lady, I lost any hope for the character. Before he was killing people that didn't want the thier powers, or didn't realize how special they were. I could see a good villian there...you don't want your powers, well I do, so zap... but the hearing lady knew, and wanted her power...

Anyways, Spoiler time.....


Supposedly in a future episode (2 or 3 weeks from now) Sylar is going to visit his mom, and they will do a bit of what you are saying...

Spoiler over

figrin bran
04-25-2007, 11:08 AM
i haven't been reading the last few chapters of the online comic but have been receiving the emails from Primatech Paper and playing the games that are linked with it. that's probably where i got the election rigging idea now that i think about it.

LusiferSam
04-25-2007, 01:03 PM
I'm thinking that Mrs. Petrelli's ability is the dream like precognition. Peter's "natural" ability absorber other people's ability. But since the beginning he has been shown to have this dream like precognition (unlike Isaac's trance like precognition). At first I thought it might have come from Charles Deveaux (who I still think might have had an ability). But now that we know Mrs. Petrelli has an ability, her being the source makes more sense to me. She seems to anticipate things very well.

JediTricks
04-26-2007, 06:15 PM
While i can't be certain, i think Linderman is going to use Micah to rig the election in Nathan's favor. A friend of mine said the same thing to me, and I audibly scoffed because the notion of needing Micah to rig an election is ludicrous - Linderman's already a mobster, he's rich, he has power, we've seen in real life that any of those are enough to rig local area elections without the need of super powers. Moreover, using Micah would require redesigning thousands of voting machines in New York City (in the span of a day) to produce the desired results because changing it at the central office won't be enough, the votes will still be easily subject to recount.


I think they really missed the boat in terms of character development for Sylar. As he is right now, he's nothing more than a power hungry killing machine with little character depth (like your garden variety meteor freak of the week on Smallville) "brain man" as Hiro and Ando called him. Had they shown him experiencing some internal conflict, it would probably make him more interesting to viewers.Yeah, he's such a 1-note character, it makes it hard to NOT want them to get rid of him immediately. They've done a great job of making him into a character we want to see defeated, but then they keep pulling the rug out from under us and I believe it's 1 time too many.


If a bunch of jagged, broken glass was flying at my face I'm certain I'd turn away from it as well. Sucks to be stabbed in the back by a shard of glass, but I'd think protecting the face and front torso would be just a normal human reaction.The natural reaction is to cover your face and crouch, if anything Peter should have been impaled through the TOP of his head.

Of course, it gets even stupider since Sylar gave ample warning what was coming, the glass hovered for several seconds, Peter could have used that time to move out of the way or go low or grab a defensive weapon or fly up into the ceiling.



Does no one here read the on-line comic besides me???Not I.

BTW, your spoiler feels too little, too late.

pegger
04-26-2007, 08:03 PM
BTW, your spoiler feels too little, too late.

I would agree - on what my spoiler says, not what I posted....

About Sylar - I lost any compassion for that character when he killed the hearing lady... Until then, he killed people scared of, didn't realize, or didn't want their powers...but when he killed her (someone who wanted her powers) he "crossed the line" for me...went from being a screwed up person to a 1-dimensional character....

Mad Slanted Powers
04-26-2007, 08:45 PM
I would agree - on what my spoiler says, not what I posted....

About Sylar - I lost any compassion for that character when he killed the hearing lady... Until then, he killed people scared of, didn't realize, or didn't want their powers...but when he killed her (someone who wanted her powers) he "crossed the line" for me...went from being a screwed up person to a 1-dimensional character....Why should we have compassion for him. I don't see it as one-dimensional. I see it as a progression. At first he didn't understand his powers and didn't realize there were others. Then he embraced the powers and was willing to take them from those that didn't want them. However, once he got the taste of that power, he became a megalomaniac. Without him, the bad guy focus becomes Linderman and the Company. Who knows, maybe somewhere down the line, Sylar could play a role similar to Gollum in Lord of the Rings. His quest for power could end up taking out Linderman and the company, while the heroes in turn take him out.

pegger
04-26-2007, 09:16 PM
Why should we have compassion for him. I don't see it as one-dimensional. I see it as a progression. At first he didn't understand his powers and didn't realize there were others. Then he embraced the powers and was willing to take them from those that didn't want them. However, once he got the taste of that power, he became a megalomaniac. Without him, the bad guy focus becomes Linderman and the Company. Who knows, maybe somewhere down the line, Sylar could play a role similar to Gollum in Lord of the Rings. His quest for power could end up taking out Linderman and the company, while the heroes in turn take him out.

He can't be a gollum - becuase Gollum was a tortured soul ... Sylar isn't. He tossed the tortured soul aspect when he killed for the power...before then he was looking for acceptance, etc...

JediTricks
04-26-2007, 09:19 PM
I would agree - on what my spoiler says, not what I posted....Right, that's what I meant as well.


About Sylar - I lost any compassion for that character when he killed the hearing lady... Until then, he killed people scared of, didn't realize, or didn't want their powers...but when he killed her (someone who wanted her powers) he "crossed the line" for me...went from being a screwed up person to a 1-dimensional character....I never had compassion for him, he was a killer from day 1 and an interesting plot device, but a really thin character. If we had met him the way Dr Suresh Sr. met him, maybe I would have felt differently, but that wouldn't have changed him being a plot device over a character.

figrin bran
04-26-2007, 09:30 PM
Compassion for Sylar??? pfft! there is no humanity in him and basically, he is the T1000 from T2.

Kidhuman
04-27-2007, 12:42 PM
Found this video on myspace, pretty funny, especially the guy with the pinto bean.

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=2025055333

JEDIpartner
05-01-2007, 09:58 AM
Oh. My. God. I really thought it was going to be a filler episode but it ended up being one of the highlights for the season!!!

figrin bran
05-01-2007, 11:04 AM
Very good episode though the fact that Future Hiro seems convinced that Sylar was the bomb is going to make Present Hiro focus his efforts on Sylar instead of Peter, the real bomb.

I don't remember hearing anything about Linderman. I might be mistaken on that but if i'm not, you'd think that someone with his fingerprints all over the events in this show would merit some sort of mention as to his fate in 5 years.

Being President or even just posing as one requires skills such as public speaking, decision making among other things. Nothing that we should expect from a watchmaker/serial killer. There's no logical way that Sylar should've been able to fool everyone, including even Mohinder and Matt.

JEDIpartner
05-01-2007, 11:18 AM
They mentioned the "Linderman Act", which, I think, may have referred to the identification of all "mutant" citizens who might be a threat.

pegger
05-01-2007, 12:06 PM
I was underwhelmed....

but I do believe the last 3 episodes will be one heck of ride!

JediTricks
05-01-2007, 02:17 PM
I was kinda digging this ep but getting a little annoyed at how bad stuff was going for everybody, and then Peter comes in and saves them from Matt, that had me cheering, that was friggin' awesome. Then the surprise at 45mins was Sylar had taken over as Nathan, I found that a decent surprise but I wasn't excited about it, it was a downer. It also meant that Sylar had to kill Ted Sprauge the day of the election, then kill Nathan AND Candice (mind-hider/shapeshifter) pretty much right after the explosion - that's a LOT of Sylar action for a 48-hour period. The battle for Hiro 1 worked pretty well, but I think it's painfully obvious that to kill Sylar, all Hiro has to do is stop time and stab him, cut him into little pieces, transport the pieces all over the world - doesn't seem really that difficult. Also, now that we've confirmed Peter is the bomb, the answer seems really simple to me - Peter flies up into space and goes boom, falls back to Earth and heals - but maybe there's something else going on. I wasn't expecting Claire's storyline to be much of anything, but it worked pretty well and the "Sylar!" payoff was great and sad at the same time.

It's a good point that Sylar doesn't have the social skills to exploit faking as Nathan and the president, but I guess once he takes Nathan's brain he takes that part of it too.

It was a good comic book episode, I think they need to leave it as a 1-shot and fix it now, and they HAVE TO get rid of Sylar, that has played out so badly now that it's the one thing that drags my enjoyment of the show down - every time he revealed himself in this ep I felt like it took a downturn, he was a flat element.

General_Grievous
05-01-2007, 04:40 PM
Last night's episode was great. Too bad I couldn't post sooner due to the forums being down. The whole episode had a very X-Men feel to it, kind of a "Days of Future Past" kind of thing. So many curveballs in that screwed up future: Parkman and the Haitian working for Homeland Security, Micah's dead, DL's dead, Ando's dead, Nikki's dating Peter, Nathan's dead and Sylar, who stole his identity, is the President and calling for an extermination, Claire's got brown hair and is getting married to some yokel, Mohinder's got a Wooly Willy beard...What an insane future! Though I still can't get over how much of a bad@$$ future Hiro is. And Peter, for that matter...that's a pretty hardcore scar he's got. The scene at the end ("I haven't had a good fight in years") was awesome, especially with Suresh growing a pair and offing the Haitian.
I just can't believe how corrupted Matt became. But the straw that broke the camel's back was Sylar killing Claire. :mad: That son of a b***h! :mad:
I am so glad the actual future in the show won't turn out like this.
BTW, did anyone notice how Sylar could shapeshift into Nathan? That means that in that future, Sylar killed the chick who worked at Primatech and stole her power.

Kidhuman
05-01-2007, 05:55 PM
Great episode last night. I loved it. It all made sense now why Sylar painted the pic of him in the Oval Office.

Peter saving them was great. I too cheered JT. I guess we were wrong about Peters scar coming from Sylar when he sliced his head open.

I couldnt believe Parkman killed Bennett after all he did for his wife and kid. What a scumbag.

Nikki/Jessica was weird. It seemed Nikki finally took control. I wonder if Micahs death would have done that to her.

I wonder how this little girl will fit into everything, supposedly she can stop Sylar, but how.

Future Hiro was great. His bad-a55 attitude rocked. I loved how he and Peter just hacked everyone.

I do wish they would have showed Peter with some unknown Power, and leave us like "How the F**k did he get that and from who!!!!????!!?!?!?!"

General_Grievous
05-01-2007, 06:52 PM
I couldnt believe Parkman killed Bennett after all he did for his wife and kid. What a scumbag.
Speaking of which, why wasn't there any mention of Parkman's wife and kid in last night's episode?

Kidhuman
05-01-2007, 08:16 PM
There was, it was the picture that Bennett gave Parkman.

General_Grievous
05-01-2007, 09:48 PM
Must've missed it...

figrin bran
05-01-2007, 10:12 PM
After further thought, i wish they didn't have last night's episode. All the elements in it could've been used for a future season's story arc. Heroes Civil War or something to that effect. You could have The Bennets, Peter, Niki, Hiro as fugitives forced to go underground and they discover by bits and pieces and through Peter's revelation that Sylar is still alive. Eventually they're able to mount enough evidence to expose Sylar and then the season culminates in a mega brawl finale. or maybe not. it's all moot now since they've already played this hand and wouldn't be able to use it again.

Sorry JT but you may not get your wish of seeing Sylar getting axed. It might get even worse when he visits mum next week.

RooJay
05-02-2007, 01:30 AM
I loved the episode in a cool 'what-if' kind of way. The only thing that kept it from being awesome from my point of view it was ultimately a throw-away as we can be pretty much certain that future ain't gonna happen. For me, the only real purpose of the episode was to refocus Hiro and recharge his motivation.

I've also wondered from time to time if there's someone out there who's ability is to intensify the powers of others. Maybe this is why Peter blows up? Maybe Ted's powers through Peter becoming so intense that Peter can't handle it and goes kablooey? Perhaps Sylar absorbs this power and uses it to actually cause Peter to KaBlammo? Maybe that's waht this little girl's power is? For what it's worth.

LusiferSam
05-02-2007, 12:41 PM
Am I the only one think that Sylar is going to kill his mom? Abilities tend to run in families which means that some one in Sylar's family might have an ability. If she has an ability Sylar isn't above killing her and stealing it.

JediTricks
05-02-2007, 07:32 PM
Peter saving them was great. I too cheered JT. I guess we were wrong about Peters scar coming from Sylar when he sliced his head open. Yeah, no kidding, I had the same thought!


I couldnt believe Parkman killed Bennett after all he did for his wife and kid. What a scumbag.Matt is mr law & order, he thinks what he's doing is right because those are the orders he's taken.


Nikki/Jessica was weird. It seemed Nikki finally took control. I wonder if Micahs death would have done that to her. Jessica came out only to make a better life for Micah, with Micah dead and Niki in touch with her rage, there was no need for Jessica.


I wonder how this little girl will fit into everything, supposedly she can stop Sylar, but how. Supposedly, this is the little girl Matt saved in the 2nd ep, when he first discovered his power. Both her parents were muties, so it makes sense she'd have a power. Honestly, there are a ton of characters we already know who should be able to kill Sylar, Hiro can stop time and do a heavy number, Haitian can halt Sylar's powers and do whatever it takes, Peter & Claude can go invisible and kill him in any number of ways, DL can phase through Sylar and rip out his heart, Ted Sprague can nuke him, Linderman could "heal" him back to infancy... ;)


After further thought, i wish they didn't have last night's episode. All the elements in it could've been used for a future season's story arc. Heroes Civil War or something to that effect. You could have The Bennets, Peter, Niki, Hiro as fugitives forced to go underground and they discover by bits and pieces and through Peter's revelation that Sylar is still alive. Eventually they're able to mount enough evidence to expose Sylar and then the season culminates in a mega brawl finale. or maybe not. it's all moot now since they've already played this hand and wouldn't be able to use it again.What? Of course they can, comic books and sci fi can always revisit situations like this, maybe Hiro jumps dimensions, maybe the future still plays out that way, maybe the future plays out similarly but at a different point in time - hell, this ep opened the door for that likelihood, not closed it. We now know humanity will behave that way if pushed in the right direction.

Mad Slanted Powers
05-02-2007, 07:36 PM
If future Sylar kills future Peter in that battle, he could then go to future Hiro and get his time travel ability. Then he could go back in time and track down the heroes before they become a threat.

JediTricks
05-02-2007, 08:06 PM
It'd lead to a pretty heavy paradox though, they're already deep into one but that'd just take it to another level. Also, Future Hiro is dead, so the only way to get the power would be if taking Peter's power also took the ones he had absorbed.

pegger
05-02-2007, 08:25 PM
It'd lead to a pretty heavy paradox though, they're already deep into one but that'd just take it to another level. Also, Future Hiro is dead, so the only way to get the power would be if taking Peter's power also took the ones he had absorbed.

Not necessarily. Sylar gets the powers by "eating" the brains. Future Hiro was shot in the chest, so his brain is intact. Sylar "could" get Hiro's power by opening the head up of dead Hiro, and taking it that way....

My only complaint at this point is that Hero's is mimicking X-men too much...

that and And Sylar sucks...

Mad Slanted Powers
05-02-2007, 08:57 PM
It'd lead to a pretty heavy paradox though, they're already deep into one but that'd just take it to another level.I think it is a heavy paradox anytime you have time travel.

figrin bran
05-02-2007, 09:19 PM
Am I the only one think that Sylar is going to kill his mom? Abilities tend to run in families which means that some one in Sylar's family might have an ability. If she has an ability Sylar isn't above killing her and stealing it.

no you're not the only one. i actually hinted at that when i said "things might get worse when sylar visits mum".

JediTricks
05-02-2007, 10:37 PM
Not necessarily. Sylar gets the powers by "eating" the brains. Future Hiro was shot in the chest, so his brain is intact. Sylar "could" get Hiro's power by opening the head up of dead Hiro, and taking it that way....Yeah, that's true, I always figured it had to be a fresh kill but I suppose that might work too.


BTW, I dunno why folks are complaining that it's mimicking X-men too much - we haven't had a good X-men motion picture in 4 years, and the last time someone (Marvel's Avi Arad) tried to do X-men on TV it was that dubious "Mutant X" which couldn't wipe Heroes' shoes.

Mad Slanted Powers
05-02-2007, 11:13 PM
Yeah, that's true, I always figured it had to be a fresh kill but I suppose that might work too.Well, he probably wouldn't have been dead for very long, depending on how long he spent fighting Peter.

Kidhuman
05-03-2007, 05:35 AM
I wished they would have shown them 2 fighting, even if for a few moments.

Now that you mention it JT, it is that girl. Good call on that.

figrin bran
05-03-2007, 11:00 AM
I wished they would have shown them 2 fighting, even if for a few moments.



not only that but Peter should've died, thus raising the stakes for Present day Hiro.

LusiferSam
05-03-2007, 11:03 AM
Supposedly, this is the little girl Matt saved in the 2nd ep, when he first discovered his power. Both her parents were muties, so it makes sense she'd have a power.

Nope. Slyar only lobotomized Molly's dad. He killed both, but only took her dad's brain, which means only her dad had an ability.

JediTricks
05-04-2007, 09:24 PM
I wished they would have shown them 2 fighting, even if for a few moments. I'm glad they left it up to our imaginations, that's not the story's focus and they were running SO late on that ep.


Now that you mention it JT, it is that girl. Good call on that.
I must confess, a friend pointed it out to me.


Nope. Slyar only lobotomized Molly's dad. He killed both, but only took her dad's brain, which means only her dad had an ability.D'oh!

General_Grievous
05-07-2007, 09:04 PM
Great episode tonight. I can't believe Sylar is so nervous about the city going nuclear that he would actually call Suresh. It's about time we saw Molly again. She last appeared in what, the second episode? It's kind of neat that she's essentially a locator (I thought of her as a human Cerebro). The stuff where he trapped his mother in the snowglobe was creepy. Wonder who the hell he got ice powers from? What I don't understand is, did Sylar kill his mom or did she kill herself? It wasn't really clear what happened.

The ending was incredible. I wasn't expecting it to start now. Now I'm really eagerly anticipating next week's episode.

BTW, an interesting fact I read in Entertainment Weekly...Sylar's mom was played by the same woman who played Audrey in "Little Shop of Horrors". There was even an inside joke when she said "I heard it's green everywhere in Oregon", obviously referring to the song "Somewhere That's Green" from the movie. I felt like such a geek for getting that reference. :p

Jedi_Master_Guyute
05-07-2007, 09:06 PM
Pretty decent episode tonight, but definately kind of an "eh" episode after last weeks superb offering. So, Surresh's blood is the cure to Molly's ailment? Odd. And i'm not sure why we had to visit Sylar's mom or what he painted in her blood, so i dunno why that was relevant. I did really enjoy the creepy piano music during those scenes though and I love how Sylar has that creepy clark kent thing going on.

I am wondering how this'll all end though. It should be a crazy two episodes! :thumbsup:

Kidhuman
05-07-2007, 09:28 PM
Okay great show tonight. Sylar and his ice power is like huh, where did he get that. We know he killed a few people before hand(like Molly's dad) and didnt know there power, so maybe he got it from them.

What I want to know is how did he move when Hiro stopped time. I came to the conclusion that he must be like Peter and absorb powers of those around him, but he didnt absorb the hearing ladies powers until he killed her right? So that blew that theory up.

I also came to the conclusion that Nathan saves NYC by flying Peter out of there and he explodes and Sylar takes his place? Discuss these theories if you feel like it or just want to comment on them.

Great to see Claire bear and Bennett back together.

Was odd to see DL carrying Niki/Jessica through the wall. I didnt think he could do that.

Next week loks to be good as Sulu comes back and gets on Hiros case it seemed.

Nathan and Eric Roberts(whats his characters name?) discussing everyone? Nathan has his hands full, Linderman, FBI, these guys. He knows alot more than people think it seems.

Did I leave anyone else out?

UKWildcat
05-07-2007, 10:20 PM
The one thing I really liked from tonight's episode is that shape-shifter chick. Man is she ever hot. Anyways, it was cool to discover that she doesn't actually shape-shift per se, but she makes other people see things differently; how she doesn't actually change into Jessica/Nikki, she makes Micha see/believe that. I found that to be very cool and interesting. Oh yeah, and did I mention, she's hot.

figrin bran
05-08-2007, 12:33 AM
Okay great show tonight. Sylar and his ice power is like huh, where did he get that. We know he killed a few people before hand(like Molly's dad) and didnt know there power, so maybe he got it from them.

What I want to know is how did he move when Hiro stopped time. I came to the conclusion that he must be like Peter and absorb powers of those around him, but he didnt absorb the hearing ladies powers until he killed her right? So that blew that theory up.


Sylar's mom fell to the floor and so the likely explanation would be that Hiro wavered too much and everything got unfrozen.

I told you guys that things would get worse in terms of Sylar's characterization. just great, now he has the revenge angle going for him and he'll most likely blame hiro for his mother's death.

Kidhuman
05-08-2007, 06:12 AM
I figured she fell to the floor because Hiro saw him move and then he released the hold on time.

JediTricks
05-09-2007, 02:25 PM
This was an interesting episode, it wasn't as actiony but it had a lot of solid moments. Sylar not knowing the bomb is Peter took a while to sink in because only recently we had seen the opposite (future ep Sylar didn't seem different enough from present-day Sylar which threw me). For the first time, I really felt like it made sense why all these mutant couples were getting together - Linderman was manipulating them to get together, that was an awesome touch, it not only sewed up one of the nagging issues in my mind, it also made Linderman much more interesting as a negative character on the show.

Sylar turning his mom's apartment into a giant snowglobe was very clever. I really liked that Sylar didn't want to be the bad guy in that way, he begged for the justification that he's NOT special - a neat twist on parents always telling their kids that they're special. And his mother's selfishness about making something special out of her son drove him to what he became, an interesting dichotomy.

Sylar breaking Hiro's sword was pretty weird, I figure the broken edge will still end up penetrating Sylar's body - maybe Sylar will thrust himself onto it to kill himself.

I was disappointed that Issac's death resulted in a wordless, half-finished comic giving Sylar powers and not delivering what it promised in the ep.


So, Surresh's blood is the cure to Molly's ailment? Odd. I thought it worked well with Suresh's birth coming only months after his sister's death, that was pretty slick really.


And i'm not sure why we had to visit Sylar's mom or what he painted in her blood, so i dunno why that was relevant.The bomb blast that Issac had painted on his floor.



What I want to know is how did he move when Hiro stopped time. I came to the conclusion that he must be like Peter and absorb powers of those around him, but he didnt absorb the hearing ladies powers until he killed her right? So that blew that theory up.Sylar's power seems to be more like Micah's, Sylar can see intricate complex patterns and how to rearrange them so they are fixed, he does this to his own DNA to give him the powers of others but only once he's gotten into their brains (apparently eating them in the process, which I find ridiculous).


I also came to the conclusion that Nathan saves NYC by flying Peter out of there and he explodes and Sylar takes his place? Discuss these theories if you feel like it or just want to comment on them.Sylar would first have to kill Candice, the image-projecting chick working at Primatech, and that so far hasn't happened. But I still think Peter should just fly up into the outer atmosphere, explode there, fall back to earth, and heal.


Was odd to see DL carrying Niki/Jessica through the wall. I didnt think he could do that.When DL and Hiro were saving those people trapped in the car, DL was able to phase one of them through the car door, so it's the same thing.



Anyways, it was cool to discover that she doesn't actually shape-shift per se, but she makes other people see things differently; how she doesn't actually change into Jessica/Nikki, she makes Micha see/believe that. I found that to be very cool and interesting.Ahem, 2 months ago, me: http://forums.sirstevesguide.com/showthread.php?p=536505#post536505
Bennett's new partner wasn't a shape-shifter, she altered others' perceptions of reality, like a psychic hologram, that's how she was able to hide Simone's body.You may all tell me how great I am, come on, you know you want to. :p



I told you guys that things would get worse in terms of Sylar's characterization. just great, now he has the revenge angle going for him and he'll most likely blame hiro for his mother's death.I felt the opposite, this episode was a bit mother-heavy but I think it finally made him a nuanced character that now has to go die (that's what'd really put a point on Sylar, making him 3-dimensional and killing him 2 weeks later). If he blames Hiro for his mother's death, that'll be an utter waste and a real shame, undoing all the character work they put into Sylar on Monday.

pegger
05-09-2007, 02:48 PM
Sylar killed his mom before Hiro showed up...so he shouldn't blame Hiro. His mom was already dead/dying.

I think Hiro just wavered in his power - which is why Sylar moved...

Oh...and Sylar froze the sword...which is why it broke. (He used that power back in episode 2 (?) when he froze Molly's dad...and sliced his head off).

I still think that Sylar was a wasted character. He had way more potential, but now - too little, too late.

He no longer interests me...except to see how they kill him off...

JediTricks
05-09-2007, 04:24 PM
Sylar killed his mom before Hiro showed up...so he shouldn't blame Hiro. His mom was already dead/dying.Good point, but sloppy writers sometimes have angry characters reassign guilt onto an enemy because it's easier to move the plot along.


I think Hiro just wavered in his power - which is why Sylar moved...That'd be a good answer, I hope it is, it'd fit best. Otherwise Sylar has a strong power we've never seen before, and I don't like that.


Oh...and Sylar froze the sword...which is why it broke. (He used that power back in episode 2 (?) when he froze Molly's dad...and sliced his head off).I don't remember that, but sounds right.


I still think that Sylar was a wasted character. He had way more potential, but now - too little, too late.

He no longer interests me...except to see how they kill him off...Agreed, he needs to go!

Kidhuman
05-09-2007, 08:02 PM
When DL and Hiro were saving those people trapped in the car, DL was able to phase one of them through the car door, so it's the same thing.

I forgot they did that.

Jedi_Master_Guyute
05-14-2007, 10:26 AM
Some news about a spinoff HEROES is getting next year.



To stretch the normal 22-episode season of "Heroes," which faltered after its long hiatus this year, NBC will add "Heroes: Origins." The spinoff will introduce a new character each week, and viewers will select which one stays for the following season. The two series will have 30 new episodes combined.

source: CNN.com


Could be interesting?

UKWildcat
05-14-2007, 10:41 AM
Hmmmm.... that could be very interesting indeed.

figrin bran
05-14-2007, 11:02 AM
that would only mean 8 episodes of "heroes: origins" though.

i thought next season would be Heroes: Generations so those two would have too similar names to each other.

pegger
05-14-2007, 08:10 PM
That was such a good episode.

Sucks that Ted dies like a chump. I was hoping he'd go out with more of a bang...

And DL taking out Linderman with that punch...that was the coolest thing I've seen this season.

Bennet's line to his boss has got to be the best quote of this season too.

Next week will be good. I can't wait for it.

General_Grievous
05-14-2007, 09:05 PM
Tonight's episode was excellent, and I'm biting my nails in anticipation for next week's finale.

I'm glad that Nikki finally came back. Everything that happened after that was unexpected. I didn't think Linderman would die this soon. And what a gruesome way to die. But of course, there always has to be a price, as shown by DL's injury. However, I think he'll survive.

I loved Eric Roberts' death scene. "What am I thinking now, Parkman?" Then Bennett comes in, all Trinity-style. "Your last thoughts". That's why I love this show.

And now Sylar has magnetic powers. How many other powers does he have that we don't know about?

So that's the end of Ted. Knew he had to go sooner or later in order for Sylar to obtain his powers. And that means that Sylar must die.

That finale looks amazing. I wonder what other heroes will be added to the list of casualties after recently losing Isaac, Ted and Linderman.

Kidhuman
05-14-2007, 09:17 PM
One of the reasons I like the show is lines just like that GG. Especially Niki/Jessica to Parkman: "didnt I throw you out a window?"

DL, Linderman dying suprosed the hell out of me. I didnt expect either one to go. Ando lookslike he will die.

Hiro's Dad(Sulu) was awesome as usual. Teaching his son to sword fight was great.

Bennett was great with that line, I loved it. I didnt expect him to kill Roberts like that.

Mohinder and Bennett in the stand off is great. Parkman will awake and settle that one.

Nathans wife walking again is a nice surprise.

Cant wait for the PEter/Sylar showdown next week.

General_Grievous
05-14-2007, 09:42 PM
DL, Linderman dying suprosed the hell out of me. I didnt expect either one to go.
DL's not dead. In the preview for next week's episode, he was alive (and assumingly well).

Kidhuman
05-14-2007, 10:36 PM
Well, I think he will be dead. I saw him alive, but still wounded with Micah. HE needs to get medical help soon. Linderman was basically the only one to save him, but he is dead.

Mad Slanted Powers
05-15-2007, 01:06 AM
One of the reasons I like the show is lines just like that GG. Especially Niki/Jessica to Parkman: "didnt I throw you out a window?"That was my favorite line as well. Another great episode.

pegger
05-15-2007, 05:18 AM
And now Sylar has magnetic powers. How many other powers does he have that we don't know about?

I missed that one - when did he use that - and how can you tell? If he's got TK - magnetism would be ... well redundant, wouldn't it?

From what I can guess, he's got (just from direct kills on the show) -TK, super hearing, radiation, melting metal and super learning. From off the show - levitation (or something to that effect - just not flying) and freezing.

I'm sure there's more, since all he does is kill other mutants.

Can't wait till he's dead.

JEDIpartner
05-15-2007, 09:44 AM
"Who's Sylar?"

"He's the guy with the big nose and crazy thick eyebrows..."

"You mean, 'Peter Gallagher'?"

"No... I mean... *looks around* that guy! Ru-u-u-u-u-u-u-unnnnn!!!!"

Okay... that was a little conversation I had with myself when one of the heroes asked who Syalr was. LOL

Anyhow, great episode. This show is really epic! What started out as a badly acted X-Men for the small screen has evolved into one of the most amazing thrill-rides on network television in years!!! Interesting how DL killed Linderman. Pretty yucky, too! Man, next week's episode looks like it is going to rock!

Jedi_Master_Guyute
05-15-2007, 10:45 AM
Some very quick info on the DVD release of season 1 from DVDActive.


Universal Home Video has sent over very early details on the first season of Heroes which stars Hayden Panettiere. This Tim Kring created series will be available to own from the 28th August, and should retail at around $59.98. The seven-disc package will include all 23 episodes - presented in 1.78:1 anamorphic widescreen, along with English Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround tracks. I'm afraid the extra material has yet to be revealed for this one, but we hope to bring you further details (and artwork) later on this week. Make sure you stay tuned for that. We can confirm that a HD DVD release will also be available for $99.98.

I'll post more info as they do! :thumbsup:

Very intense episode last night. I really enjoyed Hiro's father kicking him into shape and preparing for Sylar. And what's with Ando running off?!?!? I really hope he survives somehow cos I enjoyed the dynamic/friendship between him and Hiro.

And how about that stand off with Molly?!? How did Parkman NOT see/hear Mohinder coming at him??!? It looks like in the preview for next week shows Parkman with a wound to the stomach. Should be interesting to see if he makes it as well.

I did like Hiro realizing how much of a schmuck Nathan was and calling him a villain. Excellent scene there!

And random survey and keep it mind I don't read spoilers:
Will the bomb go off? Yes or no?

My guess: yup, it will. I dunno why. Hence, the "guess" part! :thumbsup: I guess it's due to the fact that Tim Kring has the show mapped out for five seasons and for the life of me, I can't figure out where the show would go if they did stop the bomb. Then again, that's why Tim Kring created the show and hey, I didn't. :p

Thoughts?

General_Grievous
05-15-2007, 11:22 AM
I missed that one - when did he use that - and how can you tell? If he's got TK - magnetism would be ... well redundant, wouldn't it?


Considering what Sylar did to the van that Ted was being held in, I automatically assumed it was magnetism.

Kidhuman
05-15-2007, 08:04 PM
Did Sylar go invisible when he was talking to the FBI agent or did he just walk away?

UKWildcat
05-15-2007, 08:12 PM
I assume he walked away b/c he hasn't encountered Claude yet. Speaking of which, where the hell is Claude anyways?

Kidhuman
05-15-2007, 08:14 PM
I hope Claude comes back real soon. He and that girl who let Ted andParkman into Bennetts house seemed to have gone AWOL.

pegger
05-15-2007, 09:10 PM
I hope Claude comes back real soon. He and that girl who let Ted andParkman into Bennetts house seemed to have gone AWOL.

That's Hana Glitemann...The on-line comic is entitled "The death of Hana Gliteman" - so it doesn't look good for her....

figrin bran
05-15-2007, 09:32 PM
While i can't be certain, i think Linderman is going to use Micah to rig the election in Nathan's favor.



yes!!! i called it!

i like how Claire is coming to a realization that a "normal life" won't ever be possible and that maybe she should jump in front of bullets and pull people out from fires. hopefully we don't ever hear her "i'm just a cheerleader" laments any longer.

i think the training session with Mr. Nakamura and Hiro was more about sharpening his focus and discipline than honing his skills with the sword, though that comes into play as well.

the "i've waited a long time for a Nakamura to ascend" was rather intriguing. there is speculation that Takezo Kensei, the legendary warrior is their ancestor or might even be reincarnated as Mr. Nakamura.

JediTricks
05-16-2007, 03:59 PM
Sucks that Ted dies like a chump. I was hoping he'd go out with more of a bang...That didn't occur to me until now, but how awesome would it have been for Ted to defend himself and kill Sylar right there? What an awesome twist THAT would have been!


And DL taking out Linderman with that punch...that was the coolest thing I've seen this season.That was no punch, that was something far more gruesome and awesome! The CG where Linderman's eyes get sucked into his head a little was a fantastic touch.


Bennet's line to his boss has got to be the best quote of this season too.Yeah, Bennett really brought the heat in this episode, total action hero!


One of the reasons I like the show is lines just like that GG. Especially Niki/Jessica to Parkman: "didnt I throw you out a window?"Yeah, that was a good one!


DL, Linderman dying suprosed the hell out of me. I didnt expect either one to go. Ando lookslike he will die. DL getting shot kind of bothered me, he had a lot of time there to phase him and Niki but instead just took the bullet, I wish they had explained that with dialogue, "he was faster than I thought" would have been ok even. I hope Ando doesn't die, but it did indeed look that way.


Nathans wife walking again is a nice surprise. Great twist, and absolutely planned from the beginning, you don't bother getting an actress like Rena Sofer for the part only to have her sit in the background.


Well, I think he will be dead. I saw him alive, but still wounded with Micah. HE needs to get medical help soon. Linderman was basically the only one to save him, but he is dead.Yeah, it did seem to be a soon-to-be-fatal wound.


yes!!! i called it! Too bad that's how they went, it was incredibly dumb, those machines we know for a fact are NOT networked, it was covered in the news extensively over the past few years. And if all the votes from 12 districts were for Nathan, they would have been thrown out for being obvious anomalies. That was a sloppy piece of writing.


i like how Claire is coming to a realization that a "normal life" won't ever be possible and that maybe she should jump in front of bullets and pull people out from fires. hopefully we don't ever hear her "i'm just a cheerleader" laments any longer. Yeah, that was good.


i think the training session with Mr. Nakamura and Hiro was more about sharpening his focus and discipline than honing his skills with the sword, though that comes into play as well.

the "i've waited a long time for a Nakamura to ascend" was rather intriguing. there is speculation that Takezo Kensei, the legendary warrior is their ancestor or might even be reincarnated as Mr. Nakamura.Good points. I hope it's not a reincarnation thing though, but ancestry seems like a winner. The "ascend" part was definitely intriguing, I couldn't have said that better!

figrin bran
05-16-2007, 11:27 PM
Parkman's "good to see you too." as he got out of the elevator was a good line as well

it would seem as if there is now "balance to the force" between Niki and Jessica. seemingly, Jessica allowed Niki to take over again once she realized that she was right about to take the 20 mil and kill DL.

i'm not really sure what Mr. Nakamura's company produces or sells but i wonder if it's just a front like Primatech Paper? it probably is.

so in the spirit of the "Anakin vs. Superman" thread currently on the boards, how about Sylar vs. anyone? :p

Superman would totally own him
Batman would come up with a great plan to take him out
Anyone that can phase can kill him in seconds
even Anakin should fare well
how about River Tam vs. Sylar?

(look at all the sharks i just jumped over)

UKWildcat
05-17-2007, 01:53 AM
The First Season DVD Release has been set for August 28th (Cover art Pictures) (http://www.dvdactive.com/news/releases/heroes.html). I'm really digging the design, simple and sweet. The dvd art could look really sweet when paired together with other seasons, if this show makes it for multiple seasons (which it should, and will, thus far). It would be nice if they swithced the "Season" with "Volume" though, making it more comic-book like. I will definitely be picking this one up! :thumbsup:


EDIT:


I'll post more info as they do! :thumbsup:

Whoops. Sorry if I stole any of your thunder, I didn't mean to.

General_Grievous
05-17-2007, 02:11 PM
Friggin' sweet. I know what I'm doing on August 28th.

Phantom-like Menace
05-17-2007, 10:57 PM
how about River Tam vs. Sylar?

Well, they can both kill people with their brains. And thank you for bringing up Firefly in any context.:thumbsup:

Jedi_Master_Guyute
05-18-2007, 12:19 AM
Whoops. Sorry if I stole any of your thunder, I didn't mean to.

No worries. I didn't even notice they updated with artwork!

I do like that artwork: very plain, very simple. If they keep with that same design scheme, multiple seasons (Kring said he has five seasons mapped out) will look really cool. :thumbsup:

pegger
05-18-2007, 05:38 AM
Kring said he has five seasons mapped out

This is why NBC rocks and CBS blows....imagine thinking ahead 5 seasons!!! Heck - just 2 mapped out seasons of Jericho would have been good for me, instead of the kick in pants they gave the fans....

JediTricks
05-18-2007, 10:16 PM
Friggin' sweet. I know what I'm doing on August 28th.
Like millions of others, you'll be celebrating that it's my birthday? ;) I know what I'm getting for the big 3-2.

Kidhuman
05-18-2007, 10:30 PM
I was thinking the other day about Linderman dying. I wonder if thats why they called it The Linderman Act. I dont recall them saying anything about why they called it that, but I guess thats the reason.

LusiferSam
05-20-2007, 06:37 PM
Time to made a chose and put your money when your mouth is. Does Isaacs vision of the bomb happen? It's a simple yes or no question, but feel free gave a reason for your decision.

I'm going to ask no. Isaacs has been right on everything else up to thing point, so I hate to go against him. But in the adds for the finale they keep having Claire say the future isn't written in stone. And that gives me hope. Plus we still haven't seen the end of 9th Wonders! True it's written by Isaacs, but the fact that the unfinished copy Hiro brought back from the future does fit the events of that time line shows Isaacs can be wrong or the future can be changed.

pegger
05-20-2007, 07:06 PM
I say no. Sylar will be defeated. The good guys will win.

figrin bran
05-20-2007, 08:43 PM
yes, mr. e-sock's vision of the bomb comes to fruition. i determined this via coin toss btw.

JediTricks
05-20-2007, 09:01 PM
No, I don't think so, I think this is the one thing that is going to be changed, it'd be expensive to keep showing devastated NY and we've already seen that Issac's paintings aren't set in stone, they can set into motion things that will alter the future. Plus, they wouldn't be "heroes" if 4 million people lost their lives. :p

sith_killer_99
05-20-2007, 10:08 PM
Heroes Season (Volume) 1 ;) will be sold on the HD DVD format, how very, very, disappointing. I would much prefer they release it on BluRay. Oh well, it looks like I will just have to wait until BluRay wins the HD format wars, and this gets released on BluRay, before buying the Season set.

Besides, I have Season 1 from iTunes, so I can wait.

Phantom-like Menace
05-21-2007, 12:03 AM
I like JT's logic on this one. Devastated New York is expensive.

Also, I'm thinking if New York blows up, it kind of goes against the suspension of disbelief that this could actually be happening in the real world and we're not just watching a television show.

figrin bran
05-21-2007, 12:07 AM
actually i think the bomb will explode but in a way that casualties are minimized (don't want to potentially spoil something)

sith_killer_99
05-21-2007, 02:36 AM
Well, I think....

Someone set us up, the bomb!:yes:

JediTricks
05-21-2007, 04:36 PM
Also, I'm thinking if New York blows up, it kind of goes against the suspension of disbelief that this could actually be happening in the real world and we're not just watching a television show.Yes, that is such a good point! That can make such a big difference to the way the show is written and accepted.


actually i think the bomb will explode but in a way that casualties are minimized (don't want to potentially spoil something)The commercials over the last few days have given a little clue I think about what's going down:
=== several characters are seen looking upwards, as if either Nathan or Peter are flying upwards right when the bomb is about to go off ===

Jedi_Master_Guyute
05-21-2007, 09:09 PM
SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS for you West Coasters!!







Well, season 1 is over and that was a nutty finale. I do have three brief blips:

1. The bloodstain leading into the open manhole cover; the hell? is that Sylar?!???????? Hiro stabbed his a-- and he can't regenerate, so what's the dilly.
2. The new "boogeyman" that Molly was talking about, maybe a new villian for season 2?
3. Hiro in 1671 Japan??? Should be interesting to see where that takes us!!

Overall, really great finale and I enjoyed it quite a bit. I'm betting at the beginning of season 2, we see the whole flight between Nathan/Peter up close and personal. GREAT season for a terrific new show!

Thoughts? :thumbsup:

General_Grievous
05-21-2007, 09:16 PM
My god, that was an amazing finale.

The showdown was one of the best things I've ever seen on a TV show. It even outdid some superhero movies. I loved Nikki showing up to help, but I damn near cheered when Hiro appeared to finish off Sylar. That SOB finally got his. And Nathan coming to the rescue was awesome. It was the old "self-sacrifice to right past wrongs" plot device, but it still worked great.

It was cool seeing Charles Deveaux again, knowing that he was on the inside with Mrs. Petrelli and Linderman.

I thought Ando was dead meat. I expected Hiro to find him dead at Isaac's loft, but I was pleasantly surprised when Hiro showed up to save him.

And how can we forget Noah! I was not expecting Bennett to drop his first name. But he'll still probably be called HRG by the fans.

And now onto something else...Nathan is fried, but does anyone else think Peter may be alive? You never can tell with this show.

But the ending (the start of Volume 2) was fantastic. I can't believe Hiro jumped that far back in time.

I wonder what the significance of showing Sylar's blood running into the sewer was? Something seemed to be up with that. I also wonder if everyone will come back, because it almost seemed like the Claire storyarc and the Nikki storyarc came to a close. I don't believe it, but you don't really have a sense of "what's going to happen to them next?" Hiro and Parkman's stories both left us hanging. I really hope Parkman survives, not only for the sake of his pregnant wife, but for Molly as well.

Bring on season two! :thumbsup:

Jedi_Master_Guyute
05-21-2007, 09:19 PM
My god, that was an amazing finale.

The showdown was one of the best things I've ever seen on a TV show. It even outdid some superhero movies. I loved Nikki showing up to help, but I damn near cheered when Hiro appeared to finish off Sylar. That SOB finally got his. And Nathan coming to the rescue was awesome. It was the old "self-sacrifice to right past wrongs" plot device, but it still worked great.

It was cool seeing Charles Deveaux again, knowing that he was on the inside with Mrs. Petrelli and Linderman.

I thought Ando was dead meat. I expected Hiro to find him dead at Isaac's loft, but I was pleasantly surprised when Hiro showed up to save him.

And how can we forget Noah! I was not expecting Bennett to drop his first name. But he'll still probably be called HRG by the fans.

And now onto something else...Nathan is fried, but does anyone else think Peter may be alive? You never can tell with this show.

But the ending (the start of Volume 2) was fantastic. I can't believe Hiro jumped that far back in time.

I wonder what the significance of showing Sylar's blood running into the sewer was? Something seemed to be up with that. I also wonder if everyone will come back, because it almost seemed like the Claire storyarc and the Nikki storyarc came to a close. I don't believe it, but you don't really have a sense of "what's going to happen to them next?" Hiro and Parkman's stories both left us hanging. I really hope Parkman survives, not only for the sake of his pregnant wife, but for Molly as well.

Bring on season two! :thumbsup:

I can't imagine why folks who survived wouldn't be back as they're all powerful and would be needed to fight.

Peter is most definately alive as he has the power to regenerate.

And i'm also curious about Sylar and his blood running into the serious. He's damn near dead at least!

I also enjoyed Ando's comment to Hiro: "you look bad a--" and how Hiro said, "Yatta" as he stabbed Sylar. Crazy good! :thumbsup:

figrin bran
05-21-2007, 09:26 PM
should i read spoilers or not? should i read spoilers or not?

i saw Grievous' "amazing finale" comments. that's enough for me. 1 and a half hour left to go...

pegger
05-21-2007, 09:34 PM
Sylar's "death" was typical comic book ending....but the look on his face was great when Hiro pierced him.

Same dumb look when Hiro teleported Ando.

I think the only one who died was Nathan...but even that is "up in the air" (har...)

Great season...great finale. Can't wait till next year.

Kidhuman
05-21-2007, 09:55 PM
Oh man, what a F'in finale. That was great.

I loved the little segway for next seasons villian...."When I see him, he looks back" or something like that. I wonder who it is and where he will come from.

I dont think Nathan is dead. I say Peter took off and flew as Nathan let him go and he exploded away from Nathan.

I thought by dropping his first name, Noah would die and I thought it would be dumb if he did.

The whole Charles Deveaux scene was great. I loved how he saw Peter in his vision/dream and told him what needed to be done and how and why he would save them.

DL living was great. I didnt want him to die.

I loved Nikki slamming Sylar with the parking meter and then Peter taking her super strength and pummeling Sylar.

The whole ending was great, Hiro in the past with his Samurai Idol.

I cant wait for next season, anyone got a date for the premiere?

General_Grievous
05-21-2007, 10:32 PM
I dont think Nathan is dead. I say Peter took off and flew as Nathan let him go and he exploded away from Nathan.

I think you may be right. I can't see them getting rid of Nathan. He's been a staple of the show since episode one. But then again, so was Isaac.

Kidhuman
05-21-2007, 10:36 PM
YOu can preorder Season one on DVD at:


http://www.nbcuniversalstore.com/detail.php?p=22722&SESSID=31dd3a5c29e63319842919e2e812fe8d

figrin bran
05-22-2007, 12:30 AM
I dont think Nathan is dead. I say Peter took off and flew as Nathan let him go and he exploded away from Nathan.


I think KH might be right on this one! :thumbsup:

all of you noticed the cockroaches around that manhole, right? remember the roaches that were crawling all over Sylar when he was captured by "the organization"? i think it means he'll be back in some form or another next season.

i loved Niki slamming the parking meter against Sylar, i liked Claire telling off Nathan and Angela with "i already have a family" (them Bennets get some pretty good lines!) before jumping out the window. i especially liked Hiro taking out sylar. even though mr. grey knew it was going to happen when he sneaked a peek at the 9th wonders comic, i guess he got too full of himself and didn't believe it would come to fruition. take that punk! :p

RooJay
05-22-2007, 01:17 AM
First off, loved the finale and can't wait for next season!

Now that that's out of the way, a few thoughts:

- What was the deal with Sylar's(?) bloody trail leading into the sewer? Are we supposed to believe that he somehow escaped and is not really dead? If so, you'd think the Heroes would've noticed the body of the super-powered psycho they've been chasing and trying to stop for the entire past season had somehow managed to slip away. For that matter, what was the deal with the blood at Sylar's feet when he was painting in Isaac's apartment? Whose blood was that supposed to be? I don't remember him killing anybody there recently.

- Why didn't Peter just fly himself out of the way? Didn't he absorb Nathan's power way back in the first episode?

- I for one felt that the fight was a bit too short and just a bit less epic and climactic than I'd built up in my head. Still some good television there, just not as exciting as I had wanted and hoped for. I think I would've been much more satisfied if the fight had been a bit more hectic, maybe Sylar could've put up more of a struggle, and perhaps if more of the cast was involved for a little longer. It was great seeing Nikki get in there and finally do her thing - maybe she could've hung in there a bit longer and done more of the team-up thing with Peter. Also, I know it would've gotten much more expensive but I'd have liked to see Pete and Sylar run through more of their powers before Hiro shows up and does his thing.

LTBasker
05-22-2007, 02:37 AM
I'm assuming Peter was doing all he could to control the radiation power and so he couldn't use another, especially not one like flight that would probably take alot of concentration (especially since we haven't seen him use/practice it much).

I really hope Sylar didn't get away again, that'd be a huge cop-out. At least, under his own ability. I wouldn't mind it though if the roaches are related in someway to the other person Molly was talking about and Sylar's body was taken by this person.

The connections with the "elders" is getting very interesting. Not only did the old black guy and Mamma-Petrelli know each other and were working together, the black guy possibly even had a power. Does this mean Mamma-Petrelli does as well?

JEDIpartner
05-22-2007, 12:01 PM
Sylar, the penultimate drama/drag queen... my thoughts as it seemed he had been dragged into the sewer by-- the roaches?

LusiferSam
05-22-2007, 08:14 PM
I'm assuming Peter was doing all he could to control the radiation power and so he couldn't use another, especially not one like flight that would probably take alot of concentration (especially since we haven't seen him use/practice it much).

I really hope Sylar didn't get away again, that'd be a huge cop-out. At least, under his own ability. I wouldn't mind it though if the roaches are related in someway to the other person Molly was talking about and Sylar's body was taken by this person.
Both of those are my exact thoughts. Peter has had some trouble with "system over load" when tried to use a lot of powers at once. And with one that really taxes him it might have been too much to try and do anything other than focus on that one power.

Sylar didn't look in good last we saw him. Besides going into the sewer with a big knife wound in one's chest is hardly a good move. It did look more like he was dragged, so maybe Molly's other bogyman has him. Maybe some one will heal him. Maybe someone will have his brain.


The connections with the "elders" is getting very interesting. Not only did the old black guy and Mamma-Petrelli know each other and were working together, the black guy possibly even had a power. Does this mean Mamma-Petrelli does as well?
I've felt for a very long time that Charles had an ability. Mrs. Petrelli I'd say likely an ability as well. She doesn't deny having an ability when Clair asks her. Plus she's in Linderman's inner circle (which I'd find very odd for without an ability) and both her children have abilities (the odds go up when one of your parents has an ability). And like I've said before Peter's dream like precognition cames from someone. The two best sources are Charles or Mrs. Petrelli.

figrin bran
05-22-2007, 10:24 PM
i think it might be this "super boogey man" that dragged sylar into the sewers.

anyhow, so i'm watching the episode again on nbc.com's stream and it seems like when hiro was charging towards him with the sword, he had enough time to move to the side to elude the attack. however, his "this time i get to be the hero" line leads me to wonder if he was trying to die a martyr? what could be more "special" than a martyr who gave his life while trying to save NYC from the explosion. in his warped way of thinking, it was probably a win win situation - kill peter and he's a hero. get killed by peter and he does a martyr for all he knew, the explosion was inevitable and NYC would've been decimated.

Phantom-like Menace
05-23-2007, 12:56 AM
I liked the scene with Shaft talking to Peter about his potential. It was cool to learn that he was part of Heroes mk. 1. I figure he must be the one to give Peter his extra sensory dreams. Which would mean we still have yet to see if Momma Petrelli has powers for certain.

The standoff with Molly resolved too easily. It went from everyone pretty much hell bent on drastic action to easy banter among friends.

I really wanted to see Claude one last time before the end of the season.

I kind of figured when Nikki knocked Candace out she would have turned into a big boned chick. I guess the writers figured it would confuse us.

For a show whose production staff is geeky enough to reference Future Trunks from Dragonball Z and actually acknowledge the similarities between that character and Future Hiro, I was really wanting Sylar and Peter to go Super Saiyan in their battle.

I thought at first they were showing Peter landing in a field, but as soon as I realized it was Hiro, I realized we were in feudal Japan. I suppose Kensai will be played by Takei. It certainly looked like him. And we'll see what this eclipse is all about. Also, I'm among those of you who figures Molly's big bad will be the antagonist next season. I'm also among those of you who figure someone should have been watching Sylar's body.

Great season! I'm looking forward to the next.

Kidhuman
05-23-2007, 06:29 AM
What if it was Claude who dragged Sylar into the sewer. No ody seems to have saw what happened.

RooJay
05-23-2007, 08:48 AM
You'd think at least the authorities we saw around the area ta the end there might've noticed the missing body. Not to mention that everyone's been trying so hard to find and stop this guy since the beginning that they might be a little concerned when the body disappears and no one can confirm that he's actually dead. I'm one of the only people around here who didn't see any problem with Invisible Peter being turned away from the flying shards of glass that nearly did him in, but this one is a bit too much of an oversight for me. Maybe the next season will start just a couple minutes after and one of the characters will finally make note like Nikki did with D.L.'s failure to phase them out of the bullet's path at the beginning of this episode (nice save writers!)

Also, since Simone's daddy obviously had powers, I wonder if she could have as well?

Kidhuman
05-23-2007, 05:43 PM
It wasnt a failure to phase the bullet, if he phased it would have hit her.


Next season will open with Peter and Nathan flying up.

JediTricks
05-24-2007, 02:10 AM
In some ways, I really dug that episode, but in other ways it left me frustrated that there wasn't more time to really do it up right. None of the battles really payed off well, just quick glimpses of what could have been better material. Hiro's final slice made no sense, he didn't even bother stopping time, Sylar just stood there and took it even after he said time would have to be stopped!

And it seems only Nathan actually would die there, everybody else survived even if they were severely wounded which I thought was a tad cheap. The stuff with Charles Devereaux felt way too phoned-in in terms of scripting, they can't even tell us what it's really about, and what Shaft is saying means nothing to the plot as far as I could tell, love is the answer to WHAT??? Sylar surviving seemed utterly wasteful, hopefully he's lost his powers and that'll just be the last we hear of him.

The last scene was pretty cool, I was guessing maybe Hiro himself becomes his Samurai hero, or maybe it's an ancestor of Ando. I was expecting Peter to be the one who landed though.

I wasn't surprised by the bomb blast stuff, I knew it'd be something LIKE that, I was surprised they disabled Peter's powers so he couldn't fly himself up there. I hope they have Nathan drop Peter when he got high enough and fly out of the blast zone, but I suspect they killed ol' Nate off. I'm fairly sure Pete survives thanks to his reassemble power.

I'm glad Ando survived, but I got the feeling that's not how it originally went down because the scene back in their office was done really shoddy bluescreen.

Molly's new worse-than-Sylar baddie, I am betting it's Nathan & Peter's mommy. She's getting really awful here, nasty stuff.

My sister pointed out that Nathan was really callous to say his last goodbye to Peter and NOT to his own daughter right there.



I really wanted to see Claude one last time before the end of the season.

I kind of figured when Nikki knocked Candace out she would have turned into a big boned chick. I guess the writers figured it would confuse us.
I totally felt the same way with both, your reasoning on the latter is good though.



It wasnt a failure to phase the bullet, if he phased it would have hit her. No, he was touching her, he could phase her at the same time. They even had Niki ask why he did that but DL just plays mute.

figrin bran
05-24-2007, 02:42 AM
on a lighter note, for those of you that follow hockey:

http://bp1.blogger.com/_hM91Q1377fg/RkoJl1uutSI/AAAAAAAAALM/dik6YkERGeQ/s1600-h/X+92MILO+ZACH+STANLEY+CUP+%2B+ME.JPG

Sorry Senators and Ducks, it looks like the road to the Stanley Cup goes through Sylar!!!???

JediTricks
05-24-2007, 03:05 AM
on a lighter note, for those of you that follow hockey:

http://bp1.blogger.com/_hM91Q1377fg/RkoJl1uutSI/AAAAAAAAALM/dik6YkERGeQ/s1600-h/X+92MILO+ZACH+STANLEY+CUP+%2B+ME.JPG

Sorry Senators and Ducks, it looks like the road to the Stanley Cup goes through Sylar!!!???
His eyebrows do make a wicked goalie - nothing's getting past them!

Kidhuman
07-26-2007, 09:27 AM
There is a preview of the DVD set on the Heroes Myspace page with what is included in the set. IT will contain the unaired series premiere as well.

http://www.myspace.com/heroesofficial

Jedi_Master_Guyute
07-26-2007, 10:41 AM
MEZCO has the rights to produce action figures that are due out next year. :thumbsup:

figrin bran
07-28-2007, 06:15 PM
Look at what was on display at SDCC

these are daddy glasses (http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s161/brnder/66ca56d6.jpg)

I got pics of some of Isaac's paintings as well, will post later.

JediTricks
08-05-2007, 02:25 PM
That booth was so busy all the time that I never got to see anything there. That's pretty nifty though.

El Chuxter
08-05-2007, 03:02 PM
MEZCO has the rights to produce action figures that are due out next year. :thumbsup:

Aren't they the company that's incapable of producing realistic figures?

General_Grievous
08-05-2007, 03:42 PM
Aren't they the company that's incapable of producing realistic figures?

Yeah....

Were McFarlane and NECA asleep when the licensing became available for the show?

UKWildcat
08-20-2007, 09:19 AM
Just found out that Kristen Bell (Veronica Mars) is going to join the cast of Heroes; link to the story (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117970491.html?categoryid=14&cs=1). Me likey!!! :lipsrsealed: :thumbsup:

figrin bran
08-20-2007, 10:44 AM
Just found out that Kristen Bell (Veronica Mars) is going to join the cast of Heroes; link to the story (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117970491.html?categoryid=14&cs=1). Me likey!!! :lipsrsealed: :thumbsup:

Awesome!!! I'm glad she picked this show over Lost.

JEDIpartner
08-20-2007, 11:20 AM
I read that as well. I was chuffed to read that she is "much in demand" as well. I love this girl through and through. :love:

JediTricks
08-20-2007, 03:32 PM
Nice to see CW really has its finger on the pulse of the audience, canning Veronica Mars just in time for Kristen Bell's career to skyrocket. Way to pick the right horse there. :rolleyes:

I'm not sure Bell will fit in that well with the Heroes cast, she's a more in-your-face actor than the ensemble may be able to handle, but I have high hopes that it'll turn out well.

General_Grievous
08-20-2007, 05:03 PM
That's good news. I like Kristen Bell, even though I've only seen a few episodes of Veronica Mars.

figrin bran
08-20-2007, 09:39 PM
Nice to see CW really has its finger on the pulse of the audience, canning Veronica Mars just in time for Kristen Bell's career to skyrocket. Way to pick the right horse there. :rolleyes:

I'm not sure Bell will fit in that well with the Heroes cast, she's a more in-your-face actor than the ensemble may be able to handle, but I have high hopes that it'll turn out well.

JT, can you believe that the CW president doesn't regret cancelling VM one bit??

You're right though, even if her character isn't like VM, she's still in your face enough to make things interesting but in a good way. Someone has to whip Peter/Milo into shape!

I just hope they don't make her part of the Petrelli family. As we've discussed on this thread, we don't need every single character to have ties to that family.

JediTricks
08-21-2007, 04:02 PM
I can't believe they have a president. :p

figrin bran
08-21-2007, 10:10 PM
More info on Kristen Bell & Heroes (http://tv.ign.com/articles/814/814113p1.html)

Apparently she'll be in at least 13 episodes

Beast
08-21-2007, 10:56 PM
Just FYI... Target has an exclusive DVD set with a bonus disc with 45 extra minutes of features. As well as exclusive case art and 4 lithos. :)

Kidhuman
08-21-2007, 11:32 PM
I wonder if anyone else has exclusives on it?

Mad Slanted Powers
08-22-2007, 12:52 AM
Attack of the Show pointed out that Hayden just turned 18, and Kevin made a creepy little speech suggesting she meet him in the restroom at IHOP.

figrin bran
08-22-2007, 01:04 AM
Attack of the Show pointed out that Hayden just turned 18, and Kevin made a creepy little speech suggesting she meet him in the restroom at IHOP.

At first when I read this, I thought "Hayden Christensen"?? but then I realized you were talking about Ms. Panitierre (sp?)

Kidhuman
08-22-2007, 06:11 AM
At first when I read this, I thought "Hayden Christensen"?? but then I realized you were talking about Ms. Panitierre (sp?)

I thought the same thing. Duh. Had to look at what thread I was reading

Beast
08-22-2007, 11:19 AM
I wonder if anyone else has exclusives on it?
Best Buy has a comic book, I believe. I'm not sure what else.