View Full Version : Jar Jar & Padme - survive or no?
01-31-2002, 09:57 PM
This is merely a thread about whether or not you think Jar Jar and Padme survive the end of episode III or die. I can "sorta" see Jar Jar becoming the guardian of Padme at the end of the movie, and the two hide in seclusion, like Obi-Wan & Yoda.
But that doesn't explain the notable absence of them in the OT. The only mention of Leia's mom was RotJ where Leia said she knew her real mother, but that she was very sad.
So obviously, Padme had to have spent some time with at least Leia.
As for Jar Jar. Who knows? (and who really cares? :) )
I think both characters stand a good chance of making it out alive in eIII. Its just that whole not being in the OT thing that makes me think they bought it too.
02-01-2002, 12:10 AM
I have a couple of theories here.
1. If Jar-Jar and Padme made it through EP III, then I think they probably bit it when Alderaan was blown up by the first Death Star since that is where Leia is from. (Yeah, die Jar-Jar, die!) Hence, not it the OT.
2. Jar-Jar dies by saying something annoying in front of a Sith Lord and they give him the old choke hold.:crazed:
3. Jar-Jar dies by picking up a blaster and looking down the barrel of the gun and says, "I wonder what this trigger does?":crazed:
Sorry, I believe number 1 is the most likely reason. As fo Jar-Jar being her guardian, why HIM and not Obi-Wan. Let's think about it, who better to protect the Queen, a fumbling stupid talking goofy gungan or a skilled Jedi Knight. Amidala," Decisions, decisions. Well, I guess I'll take the gungan.":crazed:
02-01-2002, 12:58 AM
Padme - absolutely survives the film.
Jar Jar - Eh.......?
02-01-2002, 12:59 AM
Because Obi-Wan would probably be protecting Luke. ;)
I think Padme dies and I also think Jar-Jar dies...
As JJB has pointed out a few times, Jar-Jar could probably die from protecting Padme and the twins from Anakin.
I think maybe Anakin as Vader will be trying to kill Padme but he can't find her so he hires Boba Fett to track her down and he leads Vader to her, but Obi-Wan fights Boba during a scene and while this is going on, Boba is able to get away and go after Padme while Vader is dueling against Obi-Wan and watching what Boba is doing, and even though Vader probably wants to kill Padme himself and told Boba that, the frustrated (by Obi-Wan) Boba has trouble capturing her so he disentegrates her before she is able to escape. (I thought maybe that would be an interesting tie-in with the "No disentegrations" line in ESB.)
02-01-2002, 08:47 AM
Padme will survive to the end of TNO, but it will be made clear to the audience that she is deathly ill and will probably not survive much longer. (See Mace Windu's Death thread)
Jar Jar will help the heroes escape Coruscant and it might be "implied" that his heroic actions bring about a stiff penalty from the Emperor's New Order, but G. Lu won't explicitly kill Jar Jar on screen. (Again, See MWD thread)
So both characters are alive for their last scene in Episode III.
02-05-2002, 01:42 PM
Leia states, in ROTJ, that her mother died when she was very young.
I'm pretty sure she was worm food by the time ANH roled around.:cry:
As for Jar-Jar, messa no tink so.:crazed:
02-05-2002, 02:28 PM
I got a feeling JarJar won't be around in EP3. Given he's not around much for EP2. possibly he just gets left in charge of things on Coruscant while Padme and the others make a run for it. Padme will probably not figure too much either. I get the feeling from what George has said about the way EP3 will play out that it's going to be a much less action fed movie with more emphasis on dialogue and the interaction between Obi, Anakin and Palpatine. George reckons it's going to be dark and that us fans won't like it much. This says to me that it's a talky movie. lots of extrapolation and long monologues. face offs and skirmishes. I think a large part will be Obi hunting down Anakin or the other way around. Sure we'll get more than that but I don't see it playing out like an epic that AOTC is attempting to be. Also with George having to bridge the gap between the prequels and the OT, it makes sense to not have too much going on so we don't see the joins. Just a muted colour pallete and a wind down into darkness and bleakness ending with 'that' battle. So yes Padme will survive to the end just about but I think she has problems during the birth of the twins and is left in serious ill health in the safety of the Palace of Alderaan. Jar Jar I think will hurry back to Naboo to try and ensure the safety of his people. Which will be of no use once the Empire begins to spread throughout the galaxy and subjucate all peoples and races.
Maybe Padme dies giving birth but if you think that Leia does say that her Mother died when she was young and that she does remember her, how can she die at the end of EP3? That would mean leia remembers things from the moment of her birth which is impossible even for a force sensitive person. babies don't have memories until they are at least 18 months old. Usually a person has no memories from before they were three. it would be highly iffy if leia could remember her Mother if her Mother died in childbirth.
02-05-2002, 11:19 PM
Padme and Jar Jar will both survive Episode 3. They will both be put under protection by Mas Amedda, Orn Free Taa, and Bail Organa. Jar Jar is deeply distressed that he is the cause of Palpatine's now-uncontrollable surge of power, but Padme still remains loyal to him, knowing that she would have done the same in his situation. It will most likely be a small aspect of the movie, as we will assume that Leia has been safely hidden away, while focusing on Obi-Wan and his troubles, ending with the deliverance of Luke to Tatooine.
02-05-2002, 11:29 PM
My theory on the whole matter is that Jar Jar will attempt to stop the recently turned anakin from reaching Obi-Wan, Padme, and Yoda before they can flee Coursurant. This is where Jar Jar will make the ultimate sacrifice to ensure that the Skywalker twins survive and are whisked to safety.
Anakin seething with anger and hatred will be furious with Jar Jar's attempts to detain him and will horribly slaughter his former best friend with his lightsaber. Truely showing that as Obi-Wan said in Return of the Jedi, the good man he had been, was destroyed. It's the ultimate symbol that he has given himself fully over to the dark side, to slaughter his former friend.
MTFBWY and HH!!
Jar Jar Binks
02-06-2002, 04:24 PM
Jar Jar is actually in ROTJ, he's that big frog thing near Jabba's Palace outside, that's what Gungans look like when they get old.
LOL just kidding.
02-13-2002, 04:31 PM
Padme will have to die in Episode III, if she doesn't GL will leave to much of a hole going into A New Hope...
02-13-2002, 04:48 PM
Jar Jar escorts Yoda to Dagobah... Padme will die while trying to hide the kids, this enrages Anakin more, and has another fit as he did like his mothers death...
02-17-2002, 11:10 AM
I think that luke and leia will be it Episode three, and it will be about luke's hiding on tatooine, the making of vader, and the death of padme. Padme had run from anakin before the children were born, so naturally, he never knew them, that's why he didn't sense leia in the OT. Palpatine knows that the children will be his undoing, so he atttacks padme, and kills her, while senator padmes senato friend, bail organa takes leia with him to alderaan and changes her last name to Organa, kinda like Corran Horn's story. ;)
02-17-2002, 11:19 AM
Padme is sad because she cant be with luke too, and that anakin is gone. Jar Jar becomes a more serious character, and fights with two organic blades, that a lightsaber cannot come through. He and obi-wan have a duel with anakin. Obi wan says: I am the master, you cannot defeat me." Hence Darth Vader: "Now I am the master." Anakin kills Jar Jar is wounded by obiwan, rys to use immense force lightning on him, and accidently consumes himself in it, frying him silly.
Or else Jar JAr is too dumb to know what's right and stays with anakin, and then anakin holds him hostage in front of Obi-wan, then JAr Jar makes a run and is killed by anakin.
02-17-2002, 08:26 PM
Anybody ever get that sinking feeling that we'll see an old Jar Jar in ANH when it finally gets put out on dvd? Or some sort of flashback sequence starring Jar Jar added to it when Obi-Wan is takling to Luke? I'm gettin' that feeling anyway.
02-18-2002, 01:24 AM
I hope not, or else I will refuse to watch it. Jar Jar is a horrible character and the OT should be left alone. The Special Edition was fine, but there are things about it that I don't like. As long as I can get the OT (not the Special Edition) on DVD the way it was originally, then I will be happy. If not, then I don't understand why GL would want to deprave the fans who like the OT without the Special stuff. The Special Edition is a director's cut because he went back and re-did it the way he wanted. That is how it should be marketed. It should be released as Original and Director's cut. Why not, everything else today gets sold two separate ways. And I'm sure they wouldn't lose money on the deal either because some people would buy both editions.
02-24-2002, 08:44 PM
well i think that Padme and Jar Jar find out Palpatines secret then Palpatine goes after them killing them both because he is afraid that she is going to tell the senate.:D
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