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El Chuxter
02-03-2007, 11:19 AM
From Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070203/ap_en_mu/people_van_halen;_ylt=AhY_nmUIFYHrmXHoBPoqDlvMWM0F ;_ylu=X3oDMTA3YXYwNDRrBHNlYwM3NjI-):

David Lee Roth back as Van Halen singer

LOS ANGELES - The rumors were true. Van Halen will reunite with original singer David Lee Roth for a summer tour of North America.

"I am very excited to get back to the core of what made Van Halen," guitarist Eddie Van Halen said in a statement posted Friday on the band's Web site announcing a 40 city tour. No specific dates have been named.

It will be the first time that Roth performs live with the band since 1984, when he was replaced by Sammy Hagar. A brief reunion with Roth in 1996 resulted in two new songs but no tour.

Original bassist Michael Anthony will not be a part of the reunion. Late last year he was replaced by Eddie Van Halen's 15-year-old son Wolfgang.

On March 12 Van Halen will be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame at a ceremony in New York.

Red emphasis mine.

Isn't it nice to know that the heart of what makes Van Halen, Van Halen isn't good music, searing guitar, or any of what we thought, but having a guy who once was cool but has instead been a tool for almost two decades in the band with your teenaged son?

And will Eddie let Wolfgang get drunk and trash venues if there are brown M&M's in the candy dish? That's the real question.

Bacta Beast
02-03-2007, 11:50 AM
Isn't it nice to know that the heart of what makes Van Halen, Van Halen isn't good music, searing guitar, or any of what we thought, but having a guy who once was cool but has instead been a tool for almost two decades in the band with your teenaged son?

There were two parts to VH's successful formula. Eddie's guitar work and Dave's personality. Call him an idiot, call him washed up, call him bald but Dave was a key ingredient to VH's success. Halen had one good album after Dave left, 5150. After that they stagnated, a few good songs here and there. The same can be said for Dave. One good album ("Eat em' and Smile") and then fizzle. Eddie and Dave need each other! Hate each other or not. Like John & Paul, John & Richie, Peter & Chicago

Guys weren't the only ones to buy VH records. And the gals weren't buying them because they admired Eddie's guitar prowess!

Now going forward, I have questions about Wolfgang pulling it off. I'm sure he's a great musician, And I actually don't care too much for Michael. I think, however that the value of a DLR/VH tour is the whole "reunion" package. That would include the four original members. I just wonder if the fans will pay to see this punk kid up there with these iconic hereos.

Darth Jax
02-03-2007, 05:41 PM
i'd rather see michael anthony playing with sammy than this "reunion" formation of VH.

Tenric78
02-03-2007, 07:26 PM
Sammy H. was my least favorite V.H. frontman. Although, I do like why can't this be love a lot. Having Wolfgang in there is just plain stupid.

Blue2th
02-03-2007, 08:57 PM
Sorry, but anyone with limited guitar-bass knowledge can play the simpleton bass-lines in Van Halen. Now singing Michael Anthony's high vocal harmonies might be a little more difficult.

JimJamBonds
02-04-2007, 12:34 AM
Does anybody know what happened between Eddie and Michael?

I hope on this tour they play a few Roth tunes.... Just a Giggalo would be great to hear live! :p

JediTricks
02-04-2007, 03:56 AM
I guess 3rd time's a charm for DLR. He was an awesome frontman, arguably the best rock frontman of all time, but I suspect the wind has fallen from his sails (hopefully not as bad as that wheezing, fat, pathetic Vince Neil when he got back in front of the Crue to embarrass themselves). I just don't think DLR has the energy, the wits, or the physical fortitude to do enough cocaine to kickstart either of those that would be required to bring back any pretense of former VH glory.

As for kicking Michael Anthony out of the band to be replaced by his son, I guess Eddie is trying to pull off some twisted Partridge Family gimmick with everybody in his family in VH. :p


Sammy H. was my least favorite V.H. frontman. Although, I do like why can't this be love a lot. Having Wolfgang in there is just plain stupid.C'mon, what about Gary Cherone? Boy did that era suck in no small part thanks to his frontmanning.

mabudonicus
02-04-2007, 10:14 AM
I just don't think DLR has the energy, the wits, or the physical fortitude to do enough cocaine to kickstart either of those
look OUT man, JT is DANGEROUS, I will be laughing intermittently for the next few days thanks to that line dammit

I think DLR is their best shot- he had the proper "Dave Energy Level" on that "Slam Dunk" tune (and the fact that I never heard a single note off of the rest of whatever album that was means he likely didn't have very much of "it")

Once Dave left VH and they started writing songs for Volvo commercials, they kinda sucked rocks, so pretty much the best they can hope to be is a vegas-style, "beatlemania" for the 80's generation at this point... I serisouly don't expect that writing any new material will be as important as getting 40-ish year old butts in the seats on tour, and I have a pretty good feeling that a LOT of folks will kick down the bread to see "Jump" and/or "Panama" and maybe a little "Top Jimmy" done as close to right as it's ever gonna get again......

Me, I ain't goin, seeing KISS once was about enough nostalgia for this cowboy :ducks: :beard: Isobaws&

2-1B
02-04-2007, 10:33 AM
A) This tour will explode and won't last the 40 cities.

B) Having Wolfy in there is dumb, hey if it's going to be A Family Affair they might as well have Valerie Bertinelli sing lead vox.

C) Chux already wins the 2007 SSG Award for best thread title!

JimJamBonds
02-05-2007, 12:48 AM
A) This tour will explode and won't last the 40 cities.

B) Having Wolfy in there is dumb, hey if it's going to be A Family Affair they might as well have Valerie Bertinelli sing lead vox.

C) Chux already wins the 2007 SSG Award for best thread title!

A) Yes
B) Its Family Affair not exFamily Affair
C) Probably although ought-seven has a lot of life left to it.

JediTricks
02-05-2007, 04:31 AM
look OUT man, JT is DANGEROUS, I will be laughing intermittently for the next few days thanks to that line dammitThanks, I try. :D Actually, that line just flowed out of me naturally because it really felt true. :p


I think DLR is their best shot- he had the proper "Dave Energy Level" on that "Slam Dunk" tune (and the fact that I never heard a single note off of the rest of whatever album that was means he likely didn't have very much of "it")Best shot? Yes. Likely shot? Doubtful. And he has to have Dave-level energy not just in singing but in dancing and mugging and behaving like the kind of '80s idiot that only David Lee Roth can.

Then again, not to go back to this again too much, but Vince Neil's first album after being kicked out of Motley Crue sounded dangerously more like the Crue than the Crue's next album because Neil's voice was such a trademark for them. DLR with VH again could be enough of their signature former glory to work at least the album, even if not a supporting tour.

mabudonicus
02-05-2007, 10:57 AM
Yeah, buit the tours the thing- most acts really don't make any real money on albums unless they're HUGE- case in point, Motorhead- they release an album around once a year but they're on the road ALL the DAMN TIME- they get decent sales but all the merchandise and the plain ol revenues from shows are the bread and butter of most "real" acts

If the tour fails, it's gonna HURT as rather than making money they'll be in the bad position of having to pay for cancelling stuff...

Could be the last necessary step before a REAL funny "reality" show tho

And totally agreed on the vocalist's influence on a band sound- that "Slam Dunk" tune sounded exactly like everything that was good about Van HAlen IMO, I was actually really stoked when it streeted, but nothing came after that... And seriously, with Van Halen- just LOOK at some of the "Selling points" of the band- granted Eddie is a talented fellow, but there's TONS of guitarists out there who have better chops playing in bar bands, no joke, I know some of them.... and what was their "gimmick" after DLR left?? Wasn't it Anthony chugging a phoney bottle of JD to the screams of the faithful, then playing some CRAPPY solo or something?? I saw it years ago on that "without a net" video and it was SO sad it almost made me tear up a little... the ONLY thing that was TOTALLY unique about Van Halen, in my view, WAS Diamond Dave..... what they did after he left, it was like if Hulk Hogan died in 1984 and the WWF got Butch Reed to carry the "Hulkamania" promotion, at least as far as I saw it- I honestly believe that most band should be OVER if they lose their vocalist (or say "signature" player- f'rinstance, Iron Maiden, they should have called it quits when Dickinson left the first time- I know Dianno was the original singer, but the singer they had when they made their mark was Bruce and when he left, Maiden should have died- if steve harris left, it also should have been quiting time)

MAN Okay, get back on topic fellow (tho I tried to keep it relevant by disussing the whole "rotating membership" notion- in my mind, this move is the FIRST thing that should have happened since DLR left, and Van Halen should have become a "unreleased live material" band until they got back together)
:beard: :ducks: Isobaws&

CaptainSolo1138
02-05-2007, 12:19 PM
The EMT bit must not've worked out for ol' DLR.

2-1B
02-05-2007, 06:07 PM
A) Yes
B) Its Family Affair not exFamily Affair
C) Probably although ought-seven has a lot of life left to it.

B) That's the idea, if Eddie and Dave are going to reconcile their Divorce, then so should Eddie and ValBert...

Blue2th
02-05-2007, 06:41 PM
You know, I saw the infamous Sammy Haggar, David Lee Roth tour, what was it four-five years ago? I must say, I thought by now (then) these guys would be all washed up and pathetic. I was blown away by both Sammy and David. They put on a very energetic, professional show. I think they were also trying to out-do each other. The musicians, mostly unknowns that backed these guys were top-notch. If Van Halen comes through here with Dave and Eddy, I will go see them, as I think they both have something to prove again, to see if they still have what it takes. Face it, Dave never did have that great of a voice, but he is the original, and who wouldn't love to see Eddy back in action again, playin' all those songs we love. :yes:

JimJamBonds
02-06-2007, 12:07 AM
B) That's the idea, if Eddie and Dave are going to reconcile their Divorce, then so should Eddie and ValBert...

True enough however the Eddie/Dave divorce happened some 20 years ago, by comparison Eddie/Val Bert is still fresh and new.

bobafrett
03-09-2007, 02:32 PM
Speaking of Eddie, I saw this picture of him today with an article on how he's supposed to enter rehab, and the dude looks downright scary now.

One is the scary, the other is a younger EVH.

JediTricks
03-09-2007, 02:56 PM
GOOD GOD!!!! He doesn't need rehab, he needs a ****ing mortician!

bobafrett
03-09-2007, 03:03 PM
After I posted that, I thought, "maybe it's just a bad photo of him". I mean I have taken some ugly pictures taken of myself in my life. Still I used to wish I was Eddie, now I just wish I had his money.

2-1B
03-10-2007, 11:07 PM
At least he doesn't have a mullet anymore.

Tenric78
03-11-2007, 03:38 AM
At least he doesn't have a mullet anymore.

That's def. an improvement in my book.

JimJamBonds
03-11-2007, 12:56 PM
I heard that they aren't going to tour this summer is that true? Did Wolfgang get low grades this semester so he is now grounded the entire summer and the band now can't go out on tour or something???

bobafrett
03-11-2007, 04:52 PM
I heard that they aren't going to tour this summer is that true? Did Wolfgang get low grades this semester so he is now grounded the entire summer and the band now can't go out on tour or something???


Naw, first it was rumored that the two big ego's, Dave and Eddie couldn't get along, then they found that Eddie is entering rehab for the "drink". There w2as a letter from eddie to the VH fans saying he didn't feel he could give 100%, so he was going to "work on himself".

Rogue II
03-13-2007, 10:57 AM
Did anyone else watch the Hall of Fame induction? Sammy Hagar and Michael Anthony were the only members to show up. Velvet Revolver inducted them, then tried to cover a couple of VH tunes. The lead singer did his best Mick Jagger impersonation while singing the DLR-VH tune (something off of 1984, but I can't remember exactly which one). They sounded pretty bad doing what I believe was Runaround, too.

Mad Slanted Powers
03-13-2007, 10:42 PM
Did anyone else watch the Hall of Fame induction? Sammy Hagar and Michael Anthony were the only members to show up. Velvet Revolver inducted them, then tried to cover a couple of VH tunes. The lead singer did his best Mick Jagger impersonation while singing the DLR-VH tune (something off of 1984, but I can't remember exactly which one). They sounded pretty bad doing what I believe was Runaround, too.

I watched it. They did "Ain't Talkin' 'Bout Love" from the first album. The vocals didn't quite sound like Van Halen, but Slash's guitar playing sounded pretty close to what I remember the studio version sounding like, at least on that intro. Overall, that song was a pretty good performance. Then they went into, as you said, something that sounded like "Runaround". It was pretty much him saying "Runaround" over and over to something that didn't sound exactly like the music to "Runaround". The music was all right though. It seemed more like they only had enough time to rehease the one song and just jammed something for the second bit.

Then there was a brief pause while Paul Shaffer and others got set up and then Hagar and Anthony came out and they did "Why Can't This Be Love?"

Overall, I enjoyed the ceremony. I had to turn it off at the end to watch 24, so I haven't seen R.E.M.'s speech and peformance yet, but I taped what I missed. I'll probably watch it here in a bit.

JimJamBonds
03-13-2007, 11:33 PM
VR should have played something off of III.

2-1B
03-14-2007, 09:29 PM
Fire in the Hole would have been a good choice !

2-1B
12-27-2007, 08:43 PM
Good reviews of the tour so far, they played 2 Chicago gigs a month or two ago but no Milwaukee...they're coming in April, though. I'd like to go but I don't think it's gonna happen.