View Full Version : Junk mail sweet revenge

02-12-2002, 09:30 PM
I recently received an email that described an elegantly simple tactic to combat junk snail mail. I've started doing it, and it takes such little time with a such a big payoff in amusement that I want to share it with you all, and urge you all join me in this practice and in spreading the word to others.

Many, if not most junk mail contains a Business Reply Envelope that guarantees return postage when the envelope is mailed back to the sending business. All you have to do is take the junk mail from one company directly out of its envelope and put it straight into the business reply envelope of another company, removing only the portions containing your name, then place it in your outgoing mail.

Like I said, it's simple, elegant, and if enough people start doing it, maybe we can force the junk mailers to rethink their wasteful ways.

And before you fire up your keyboard for some whine-a-thon about how junk mail revenues help keep the rates lower for our first-class postage, let me say: BITE ME, DOUGHBOY!!! First class rates have gone up unacceptably with or without the postal service's other revenue streams. Their service sucks. If they can't, through improved management, find a way to offer better service than they currently provide at the level of income they currently bring in then they deserve to go the way of the dinosaurs and we can just move entirely to e-mail for FREE communication. If all companies could completely phase-out the cost they spend on snail mail for billing and apply that budget to electronic bill payment, any remaining service fee to consumers to electronically pay their bills could be less then what we now pay for a single first class postage stamp. People without computers could pay their bills at the public library's computer, or a touch-tone phone automated bill-paying system could be setup for those people and for shut-ins.

[I'm dismounting my soapbox now.....]

02-13-2002, 05:40 AM
Pardon my *slight* edit Swaffo.

Seems like an interesting idea, but is there any risk of being charged with mail tampering or mail fraud?

As for the USPS, they do indeed need to get with the times, they're so pathetic, "people are emailing too much, not using real mail enough, so we'll raise our prices". DUH!!! What kind of thinking is that?!? If the supply overwhelms the demand, lower the supply dummies! But instead of lowering their highly-suspect workforce due to less demand and making their prices more competitive, they raise prices to pay for that too-large workforce, thus alienating their customer base and risking even further loss of demand.

Rollo Tomassi
02-13-2002, 09:01 AM
Did that e-mail say anything about spam? I do not need to:

Lower my Mortgage interest rate.

Consolidate my credit card debt.

Find anyone in the world.

See 18 yr old Amy and her dorm mates in the shower.

Own my own domain name.

Earn $1000s at home!

See Hot Latino Sluts in action.

Look at those great deals on printers/scanners.

Turn my home into spending cash.

If I could just find a way to tell these people. Every time I send a "Remove" e-mail, I get a mailer unknown response. And I think those special websites that 'remove' my name from circulation drops it back in on the next pass...
:( :mad: :( :mad: :( :mad:

02-13-2002, 10:15 AM
Yeah, I know how the spam mail works on e-mail, someone even took my e-mail address and they signed up for all these listservers which I can't unapply to. I hate spam bots, wish someone would make a virus that spread through every system that would disable any spambot, but no they're more interested in screwing up your computer. Ya know if a law was passed on spam and junk mail (which can be considered harassment actually after a certian period of time from the same place) it would make things a little better. Especially try being on AOL, spambots just tap in a list of all AOL members then it sends the e-mails out with different headers and automatically changes it's address each time and it just goes down the list. Annoying. :frus:

02-13-2002, 12:16 PM
I have a AOL account and a DarkHorse mail account.Its funny
how DarkHorse mail,a free service, nearly blocks all my spam
mail while AOL can't.:rolleyes:

02-13-2002, 01:43 PM
...that shalt be King hereafter!

I love you, when I do that, I forget to rip my name off (duh) :D

And Rollo,

Turn my home into spending cash

....thanks for making me spray coffee all over my keyboard, I haven't laughed so hard since A.I.:evil: Perhaps we should reply with "Yes, I'd love to completely negate any security I have, thank you very much for the pants advice!" :D

Have you had the ones that say; "The CD that should be banned!" yet? That's another cracker.

BTW, the above is not illegal/mail tampering in the UK.

*these Americans are crazy!*:crazed:

El Chuxter
02-13-2002, 02:56 PM
Rollo, don't even bother unsubscribing from junk e-mail. 99% of the time, it just confirms to the sender that you have a functional e-mail account and your name gets sold to even more lists.

IsaneJediGirl, one of the most common ways spammers get an e-mail address is to do random searches on AOL for profiles. I guess the mentality is that if you have a profile, you use your account and therefore might be receptive to porno messages disguised as letters from long-lost high school buddies.

My girlfriend recently cancelled AOL, and when the guy on the phone asked why, she said, "I don't want to have to go through thirty messages about 'Live teens ****ing" every time I log in." I just thought that was amusing. :D

As for the postal service, I want to know only one thing: If they're raising rates, considering dropping Saturday delivery, and constantly complaining about how they're losing money, why don't they stop licensing Steve Miller songs already? :confused:

02-13-2002, 05:48 PM
LTBasker, I've heard that if you're savvy enough, you can edit the cookies that come with much of the spam mail and return them to their source with a trojan horse embedded. I've yet to take the time to learn how, but my girlfriend's cousin claims to do it all the time.

02-14-2002, 04:23 PM

the reason the post office can raise their rates is because they are a government monopoly, in the true sence of the word, unlike the fictional monopoly some pretend microsoft to be.

the post office needs to be shut down. the government has no business delivering mail. private carriers like fed ex and ups could easily take over their operations and hire the laid off government employees.

02-15-2002, 02:54 AM
I believe USPS has finally thrown up their hands and said "we can't do it!" about next-day service, so they now contract next-day service through Fed-ex, their former rival. So now we have a government contractor (USPS) sub-contracting out a major piece of business... oh boy, more middlemen!