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Tycho
02-16-2008, 10:51 AM
I just saw this at Rebelscum. :rolleyes:

I am not buying into another sub-line even if it's another toy company.

Their first picture is of Sir Alec Guiness as Obi-Wan Kenobi. He looks nice, and comes with his lightsaber and training remote.

But doesn't this have to be for newbies?

Haven't us Old School guys finally run out of space? Breathed enough dust? (or bought enough Ikea display cabinets?)

I don't care if since 1995 you've completed your education, gotten a great paying job, or won millions in a lottery. There's only so much ROOM for this stuff. It's time to stop!

The resistence starts now!

bobafrett
02-16-2008, 10:55 AM
Do you have pictures or a link to the pictures?

Tycho
02-16-2008, 11:04 AM
Just check Rebelscum.com's front page. They only have a picture of Guiness' Kenobi.

I'm sure Steve will have a set of pictures of the complete line in just a little while. It's noon right now in New York. My guess is the toy companies will let them in after lunch so no one has the pictures yet.

Plus Steve is going to Hasbro first (that I know of) and these figures are Diamond Select's.

Diamond makes Star Trek figures and is doing the "retro collection" in the old Mego style, which it would seem these SW figures will take after (cloth clothes).

Star Trek did NOT have electronics in their figures however or there'd have been a Kirk figure that said, "Hey baby, what's your phone number?" already.

Diamond also does the all-plastic Star Trek line which I collect. Some are really good sculpts by Art Asylum (Deep Space Nine Odo) others have room for improvement (Nemesis Worf).

However:

1) I am slowly quitting toy collecting
2) I will keep, display, and enjoy what I already have - so no sale!

bigbarada
02-16-2008, 11:12 AM
It's on the front page of Rebelscum:
http://www.rebelscum.com/photo.asp?image=http://www.collectinghq.com/im/0012892.jpg

A company gets a new Star Wars license in 2008 and their first figure is... Ben Kenobi? **yawn** :rolleyes:

bobafrett
02-16-2008, 11:15 AM
Thanbks for the link. I haven't even bought one of the sideshow figures, I don't see myself purchasing anything from this line.

Bosskman
02-16-2008, 11:19 AM
I'm with you Tycho. SW is winding down. Sideshow's 12" are the last line for me I think (except for my Bossk sub-collection. I will get every Bossk (yeah, even the Sideshow Bust eventually)

Tycho
02-16-2008, 11:23 AM
A company gets a new Star Wars license in 2008 and their first figure is... Ben Kenobi? **yawn** :rolleyes:

I bet you they have a small line consisting of the OT cast:

Han, Luke, Leia, Chewie, Vader, Obi-Wan, Stormtrooper, and the droids, just like Hasbro debuted with in 1995.

With Hasbro presumably focusing on E3, TFU, and Clone Wars, I'm sure Diamond thinks they can make their big move onto the scene by offering the OT for Old School enthusiasts due to a lack of Hasbro product being out there (I think, we'll see what OT stuff Hasbro reveals later today).

I think Diamond showed Obi-Wan because everything else they'll show later will be more exciting.

My guess is it will be by-the-wave releases not one figure per month, like SideShow.

SideShow does offer you 5 more inches though ;)

I think Diamond will be 7" figures.

Jedi_Kal-El
02-16-2008, 11:28 AM
I think I can pass on these same as I have the Sideshow figures. Probably too expensive to start collecting a line like that anyway.

JediTricks
02-16-2008, 05:05 PM
Sideshow must be miffed since they've been doing clothed 1/4 scale figs already with the Premium Format line. This looks like grade-C junk too.

Tycho
02-16-2008, 05:08 PM
These are 1/4 scale JT? What's that 16"?

So Diamond is trying to undercut SSC's prices?

jedi master sal
02-16-2008, 05:29 PM
I'm passing on the line very easily. I'm just not into the 12inh or bigger style figures anymore. I've only bought ONE SSC fig (Plo Koon). They are just too expensive to me, besides the fact that the human heads sculpts are not spot on. I don't hold much hope for Diamond either.

JediTricks
02-16-2008, 05:30 PM
18" is this scale. Again, I'll point out I just said Sideshow's Premium Format are this scale, you've seen those, so you know what to expect in size.

These are articulated and have lesser sculpts, they're going to be made from less-than-premium materials I suspect, so yeah, it's going to be cheaper.

Oh, and I find it laughable they're doing rotocast like that's a good thing - rotocast sucks!

sergiurusu
02-18-2008, 02:20 AM
I'd be interested seeing their 1/3 Vader and 1:1 stormie helmet

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/7751/diamondselectnewsgs9.jpg

JON9000
02-19-2008, 12:20 PM
From RS:

18" Talking Cloth Figures

1/4 scale, great articulation, sound chips.

$75

3 figures on display: Darth Maul, Han Solo (Hoth - brown coat), and Ben Kenobi.

Luke Skywalker Jedi Knight coming up.

I think the premium market is getting overcrowded, but if you haven't committed to a line yet, or you would like 18" figures but not statues, this may be the line for you.

JediTricks
02-20-2008, 12:23 AM
Price ain't bad really, not compared to Sideshow. But nobody has space for a large cadre of 18" figures.

JON9000
02-20-2008, 09:29 AM
Price ain't bad really, not compared to Sideshow. But nobody has space for a large cadre of 18" figures.

True, but if you have a favorite character, you could get him. I think this line will only be made for core characters and a few oddball favorites. No three versions of an Endor trooper. I never understood that on Sideshow's part. Who has room?

I think what is really the make or break is the face sculpting. Get it right (like Sideshow PF) and they will sell. Get it wrong (like Sideshow 12") and people will avoid it.

If they made a great ANH Han, I could probably go for it.

JediTricks
02-20-2008, 10:29 PM
Sideshow 12" is the fastest-selling 12" line in their arsenal, and I'd say that they've got about 75% accuracy. I don't see that ratio in the PF line of overpriced statues, it's more like 50%.

Tycho
02-21-2008, 12:42 AM
No three versions of an Endor trooper. I never understood that on Sideshow's part. Who has room?

It's funny, but I ordered the 3 Endor Troopers and wanted them very badly, but do NOT order most of the SSC figures.

The Endor ones are to use in setting up a military display since I don't also have room for GI Joe or Soldiers of the World (whatever those realistic collections are called) and I could achieve something similar but stick to my SW theme if I have "the Green vs. the Gray" in the Endor Rebs vs. my old Hasbro Imp Officers / Non-Armoreds. I won't put in Stormtroopers or Ewoks, and I might "muddy-up" the figures a little to make them look war-torn. That could look cool in a display with plants etc. simulating a jungle-forest.

Anyway, I made a list of very close to 100 twelve-inch figures I would want, and if SideShow makes them, I'll buy. I almost never buy what Hasbro already covered, but Han Solo Bespin by Hasbro really irked me (then SSC shipped me something that was about as awful! :mad: )

But my SideShow figures:

Anakin E3
Obi-Wan E3 (x 2)
Han Solo Bespin
Kit Fisto
Endor Rebels 3-pack
Jabba the Hutt and Throne Environment
Salacious
Bubo
Emperor Palpatine 2-pack

oh - and my friend gave me Bib Fortuna.

I think that's it. All I ordered. Like I said, there are almost 100 more I'd get, but there's plenty more (like 700 or so) that they could do that I'm not interested in buying. Obi-Wan in Clone Armor is very tempting actually, but he's not on my list. Must....resist.....!

JON9000
02-23-2008, 09:52 AM
Sideshow 12" is the fastest-selling 12" line in their arsenal, and I'd say that they've got about 75% accuracy. I don't see that ratio in the PF line of overpriced statues, it's more like 50%.

12" has the benefit of having a lot more non-human characters and characters you really don't know inside out. I only have a PF Leia, and to me, she looks much better than 12" Leia.

JediTricks
02-23-2008, 04:10 PM
I've only seen PF Leia at the cons and in photos, but to me the likeness doesn't work at all, whereas with the 12" version, even though it's based on the ROTJ sculpt for the Boushh figure, I totally see it (especially from about arm's length).

El Chuxter
02-23-2008, 05:04 PM
Look on the bright side: They could be Diamond Select Talking Naked Star Wars Figures.

SirSteve
03-07-2008, 02:48 PM
We were told not to shoot them because they have not been approved yet (RS should not have either and the picture has been removed). I was able to see them in person and I was impressed from what I seen! Personally, I am looking forward to them. Stay tuned for more details and pictures coming soon!

Jedi_Kal-El
03-08-2008, 12:03 AM
I'd like to get back into collecting some larger scale figures. It's just the price on them that gets me. I think all the ones Sideshow has done are great, but I don't own any because I just can't justify the price, because if I get at least one then I know I'll want more, and that's where it gets really expensive.