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Jargo
03-21-2008, 08:44 PM
I hate being British right now. Aside from the awful weather growing wave of xenophobia and fascism, upsurge in morbid obesity, rising cost of living, scandalously low level of education, pathetic political system and all the avoidable health issues. There's the anihilation of the industrial infrastructure. the fact that most people know more about the lives of characters in soap operas than the lives of their neighbours. These islands are a joke. Our futile presense in the middle east. rapidly diminishing supplies of fossil fuels. oblteration of the farming industry. outsourcing of businesses to non english speaking countries. the way i feel right now it would be easier to just slide the UK off the continental shelf and let it sink deep below the Atlantic ocean.
I so want to emigrate. :hurt:

General_Grievous
03-21-2008, 08:51 PM
I hate being British right now. Aside from the awful weather growing wave of xenophobia and fascism, upsurge in morbid obesity, rising cost of living, scandalously low level of education, pathetic political system and all the avoidable health issues.

Are you sure you're not talking about the United States? Because that sounds awfully familiar...:ninja: Maybe we should all just pack it up and move to the North Pole.

Jedi_Kal-El
03-21-2008, 08:57 PM
I hate being British right now. Aside from the awful weather growing wave of xenophobia and fascism, upsurge in morbid obesity, rising cost of living, scandalously low level of education, pathetic political system and all the avoidable health issues. There's the anihilation of the industrial infrastructure. the fact that most people know more about the lives of characters in soap operas than the lives of their neighbours. These islands are a joke. Our futile presense in the middle east. rapidly diminishing supplies of fossil fuels. oblteration of the farming industry. outsourcing of businesses to non english speaking countries. the way i feel right now it would be easier to just slide the UK off the continental shelf and let it sink deep below the Atlantic ocean.
I so want to emigrate. :hurt:

Sorry to hear of your troubles my friend. I have a buddy who would love to live over there due to the fact that he sees how they portray things where you live in the movies. He gets all these romantic notions based on different actors that live over there and he thinks it would be just as great for him.

My mother-in-law lived in England for 5 years and had absolutly nothing nice to say about it when she returned to the states.

I'm not really bashing where you live, I'm just saying that I've not heard anything good about it in recent times. Though I can't say that it's all that great here at the moment either.

Jargo
03-21-2008, 09:00 PM
well we are just an annexe of the states it sometimes seems. there again we have the european union pulling strings and dictating to us. petty beaurocracy. ridiculous red tape issues. I feel like joining a hippy commune somewhere remote. maybe live like Grizzly Adams. buy a boat and go moor up by some atol or other. get away from all the insanity.

Jargo
03-21-2008, 09:02 PM
i guess fantacising about England as some jolly hockey sticks country village utopia is like British people imagining the USA is all sun, beaches and hollywood glamour. where everything is bathed in lovely amber and blue light.

jedi master sal
03-21-2008, 09:10 PM
i guess fantacising about England as some jolly hockey sticks country village utopia is like British people imagining the USA is all sun, beaches and hollywood glamour. where everything is bathed in lovely amber and blue light.

Wow, it's like you have a camera on my life....(in Bizarro world that is...)

Jedi_Kal-El
03-21-2008, 09:18 PM
i guess fantacising about England as some jolly hockey sticks country village utopia is like British people imagining the USA is all sun, beaches and hollywood glamour. where everything is bathed in lovely amber and blue light.

Yeah that sums it up in a nutshell. It kinda reminds me of people I've talked to who think Las Vegas would be a great place to live. All they see is the lights of the strip and the gambling, but it's not at all like that for the normal folk who have lived there for 20+ years.

Jargo
03-21-2008, 10:39 PM
I live near Liverpool. which is a small architecturally diverse city. This year it's hosting European capital of culture and there's been huge amounts of money invested in development of a massive mall, new roads. renovating some run down parts. hotels and high rise 'luxury' apartment blocks. yet it's all really ugly. homogenous modern lego block architecture. A lot of the 'culture' is being imported. it's all rather soulless and dour. No doubt it will bring copious amounts of money to the city which will mysteriously vanish and not get passed on to the inhabitants of the greater city. areas on the outskirts that really need the money but have been neglected in favour of completely destroying the character of the city centre and river front. it all seems a bit pointless and doesn't add anything to the city except monstrous concrete slab buildings and posey wine bars where psuedo intellectuals can go to try justify their existence.
meanwhile the indiginous population still struggles to live hand to mouth in squalid drudgery.
It was the same in london when the Millenium dome was built for Y2k. Billions were poured into the thing and nobody wanted it. nobody visited it and and it was an abysmal failure that left the government in debt. meanwhile our national health service was suffering hospital closures and shortages of qualified staff. services were scaled back, even terminated. leading to postal code lotteries where only people living in certain areas of the country had access to previously available treatments.
Priorities are so so wrong. everything is all facade and no substance. and yes i guess it's no different for a lot of you guys in the states. maybe worse. i can only speak about what happens in my own backyard though.
All i can say to anyone wanting to come to the UK to take advantage of our free health service is don't count on it being free for that much longer. The streets of this nation are paved with grime and dust and doggy poop not gold.

Old Fossil
03-22-2008, 12:15 AM
I so want to emigrate. :hurt:

Where would you go, maybe? And what's stopping you?

bigbarada
03-22-2008, 12:49 AM
Maybe you just need some time away. You could make a trip to the States and visit a bunch of people from the forums.

We had a British guy named Dave, from Matt's forums, visit the States last October. Unfortunately, he had a few people cancel out on him at the last minute because he's gay and they got a little nervous about him, so he ended up spending two weeks sleeping on my couch. But I don't forsee that kind of thing being a problem for the people here.

If you can get two or three people from the SSG forums to agree to take you in and show you around, I think you'd have a good time. And if you made it all the way to central Illinois, then I'd be happy to let you stay with me for a few days even if all I can offer you is a couch (for the record, Dave told me it was a very comfortable couch).

Jargo
03-22-2008, 08:21 AM
I'll come back to you BigB when I'm more awake and can write a decent reply.

As for where i'd go Old Fossil. I haven't a clue. It's a damn good question. somewhere warmer. with more days of sunshine in a year. As evidenced in this thread I can be a bit of an Eeyore in a sad and gloomy place. Sunlight would really help that.
What stops me is domestic commitments. I have a terminally ill significant other. 12 years ago I made a vow to be there 'til the end and who can say when that will be. It seems a bit selfish to be thinking of myself and what I'll do then but I guess I have to make some sort of loose and flexible plans for the whenever future.

Jedi_Kal-El
03-22-2008, 11:25 AM
Well dude, if you ever do decide to come to the states for a visit. We have a guest room and you're more than welcome to stay with us for a bit. Just remember to visit during the summer, because if you're not into gloom then winter is not the time to visit.

Old Fossil
03-22-2008, 11:03 PM
If in your possible journeyings to find a suitably warmer place you pass through Mississippi -- where "warm" is used jokingly in the summer months -- you better let me know. We're poor folk but have an extra room and bed for distinguished guests (or others, like in-laws). In the afternoon, you and I can walk around the yard and we can talk gardening; and we'll all sit down later that night for iced tea and potato salad and whatever other cliche'ed Southern food I can scrounge up.

There is a little town on the Gulf Coast called Bay St. Louis, which suffered terribly during Hurrican Katrina but is returning somewhat to its former self: broad avenues, numerous small art galleries, cool breezes; and just far enough away from Biloxi to escape somewhat the effects of the vulgar turistas and casinos. It is nothing if not sunny in Bay St. Louis. :)

Of course, I have no idea what people do for a living down there...

I have a good friend from the UK, last name Dobson-Smith (how British is that???), who lives in Hattiesburg. He moved here about 5 years ago to be with a local girl. That didn't work out, but he liked the place so much he stayed. His accent gives him almost (local) celebrity status.

Tycho
03-25-2008, 01:37 AM
I've got it! We should start our own country.

First we'll need a location. I think a desert island sounds about right. What do you guys think?

Jargo
03-25-2008, 11:35 AM
First off, I want to say a big heartfelt thank you to BB, JK-E and O F for their very kind offers. If I ever get across the big pond I'd be honoured to come visit. :thumbsup::love: *wonders how long it would take to get across the atlantic in a row boat*

Tycho I don't know about you but I've got my eye on Richard Bransons Virgin islands home. from what I've seen we could stage a coup and fortify the main house and guest house and easily repel any authority force that tried to invade. Keeping Branson himself under house arrest would probably be a good thing. with some 'persuasion' we could probably gain access to his bank account in order to fund the new republic (see what I did there?) and maintain a comfortable existence. he has an amazing satellite array so communicating with the outside world isn't going to be a problem and supplies could be flown in. who's with me? :lipsrsealed:

TeeEye7
03-25-2008, 11:40 AM
.....who's with me? :lipsrsealed:

Count me in! Especially if Emperor Jargo returns to take the helm! :thumbsup:

Jargo
03-25-2008, 11:46 AM
:Pirate: ARRRRR! fly the orange flag me hearties! :whip:

:bandit::smoker::beard::Ogre::cool:

Tycho
03-25-2008, 12:30 PM
OK, this is starting to sound like a good idea.

Deoxyribonucleic
03-25-2008, 12:56 PM
Me too beotch ;) :love: Plus, HELLO, I'm in the sunny So. Cal where for the last week it's been in the high 70's and 80's woot woot. I also have a guest room for you to stay in and we could run around so cal and visit a bunch of SSG'ers and I'll take you on the cheezy hollywood stars home tour ;) And of course we could do toy runs into the wee hours of the night. If you come around summer, we could do a bon fire on the beach. You should really think about this, you could hit up so many states by staying with all of us, you'd probably see more of the U.S. than most americans ;)

Don't forget Jargo, it is VERY important that you do things for yourself. I know your partner is sick, terminally, but you MUST take care of yourself and make sure to take many mental breaks. I'm not kidding! When my Mom got sick with cancer, I was her only caregiver, a 27 hr a day job, and sometimes I needed to just go out with my friends and my Mom was all over that, she would always make sure I went out to relax and leave the sadness behind for a little while otherwise, you are no good to yourself and therefore, no good to others.

Hugs to you! :love:

Jargo
03-25-2008, 03:16 PM
Right now I'm feeling a little bit :cry: after reading that, but also full of :love: I'm having multiple emotion rushes and I think I know how the menopause might feel :crazed:

Seriously though, right now you guys are bringing a smile to my face. and this is actually giving me something - a fresh possibility to think about. I think I need a bigger piggy bank to start saving.

Also, I have another idea. more later......... :yes:

JetsAndHeels
03-25-2008, 03:42 PM
North Carolina is right on the east coast, you would pass us by if you came to the US anyway....the offer so many others have made is good for me as well.

Tycho
03-25-2008, 04:03 PM
Dude! I know it!

You want to come here and sniff Mouse Droids!

This is a secret, but I still can get out some R4-M9 editions, from mint-never-before-opened-packages from the POTJ era. Those are POTENT baby! :crazed:

Jargo
03-25-2008, 05:18 PM
Ok I went and got my username changed back to Jargo. most of you still call me that anyway and well, I'm no daddypants really. So Thank you to SirSteve. And it's good to be back.:thumbsup:

bigbarada
03-25-2008, 06:15 PM
Ok I went and got my username changed back to Jargo. most of you still call me that anyway and well, I'm no daddypants really. So Thank you to SirSteve. And it's good to be back.:thumbsup:

:eek::eek::eek: You were Jargo in disguise all this time?



:p Nah, seriously it's good to have you back.

Deoxyribonucleic
03-25-2008, 06:16 PM
Ok I went and got my username changed back to Jargo. most of you still call me that anyway and well, I'm no daddypants really. So Thank you to SirSteve. And it's good to be back.:thumbsup:

YEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! :thumbsup:

Much better indeed!

Jeez Jargo, where you been all this time? Welcome back ;)

TeeEye7
03-25-2008, 09:08 PM
I TOLD you things would improve if the Emperor returned! :thumbsup:

My wife and I adopted Howard Jones' song Things Can Only Get Better as our anthem when life threw too much excrement in our direction.

So in you honor, sir, we pass the torch (and you may get a giggle out of the 80's fashions. Note Howard's even wearing orange! ;)):

www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJE5cBGgTSU

All hail the return of the Emperor!

TI7

Mr. JabbaJohnL
03-25-2008, 10:47 PM
Hell man, just come out sometime and we'll all meet up and there can be a Jargo-con (sometime after Mabucon). :D

2-1B
03-25-2008, 11:16 PM
This is good news indeed... the Nexu is pleased. (http://forums.sirstevesguide.com/showthread.php?t=10041) :grin:

No, that joke will never get old to me. :thumbsup: :21B: :thumbsup:

El Chuxter
03-26-2008, 01:14 AM
From now on, everyone call him Mr. Daddypants. That oughtta drive him batty. ;)