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JediGoofy
04-08-2008, 06:04 AM
When Hasbro introduced the concept of Star Wars Transformers I was very very critical, not seeing the point in mixing 2 brands so different.
Until now I only bought the Millennium Falcon/Han Solo-Chewbacca, and just for the gold Millennium Falcon and TIE Fighter included in the first edition.
But now I have to give the SW Transformers designers my compliments for their AT-AT! :) This AT-AT has some very good features, even when compared (forgive my heresy ;) ) with the Action Fleet one. :) First of all its legs are poseable! :D This makes it unique among the small scale AT-AT models, afaik (Action Fleet, Titanium Series and Star Wars Miniatures).

Here is a little review for those of you who do not already know this model:
The 2 front legs have an articulation with 4 position at the hip and a free articulation at the knee. The 2 rear legs have a ball joint at the hip and an articulation with 3 position at the knee. All the feet have a ball joint at the ankle, but only the 2 rear ones can move freely, within limits, while the 2 front ones can only roll round the longitudinal axis. This limitation is balanced out by the fact the toes of the 2 front feet can move (exactly like in the movie!). The proportion of the body and details are quite good and in vehicle mode there is no part of the robot visible (differently from other SW Transformers, e.g. the X-wing). The only real imperfection concerns the head, it is too big and lacks completely of the neck, so it cannot tilt at all, but it can only roll 360 around the longitudinal axis (this is absolutely movie inaccurate, but it is used in the robot mode transformation :sad: ).
In the end you can pose this AT-AT to simulate most of its steps, even if not continuously (you cannot use it for a stop-motion movie), you can pose it like Blizzard 4 when it falls flat (besides for the head :( ), and you can crash a MM snowspeeder under its feet in scale. :D

Transformer designers were able to put a lot of articulation in this quite small vehicle, this makes it very movie accurate apart for the head which has been sacrificed to the robot transformation.

What do you think about this vehicle? I am interested in reading your comments. :)

Ciao,
JediGoofy

JediTricks
04-08-2008, 09:47 PM
This is one of the few SWTFs I didn't buy, the robot mode just looked so bad I couldn't bring myself to drop $15 on it, the no-neck situation and funky paint mismatching were the final straws.

figrin bran
04-09-2008, 02:37 AM
In theory I would've wanted this as I do like the AT-AT. However, like JT said, the bot mode wasn't good at all. With the AT-AT being one of the most imposing looking vehicles in the SW universe, you would expect the bot to look more on the menacing side and less on the spindly 90 lb weakling side which unfortunately it tends towards.

There are some who buy the SW TF's solely for the alt modes but as I own an Action Fleet AT-AT, I don't really need this one.

JediGoofy
04-09-2008, 04:07 AM
There are some who buy the SW TF's solely for the alt modes but as I own an Action Fleet AT-AT, I don't really need this one.
This is actually my point. :)
I have not converted the model to robot mode (and I think I will never do ;) ), but even if I own the Action Fleet AT-AT I found this one (may I dare to say it? :) ) "better". :D (although I am a big fan of AF :shocked: )

Yes, the head is very bad, but to have the possibility to stomp over a MM Snowspeeder is priceless. :twisted:

Ciao,
JediGoofy

Darth Duranium
04-10-2008, 08:34 PM
Sorry JG but I've gotta agree with JT... they shoulda called it the AT-NN-HO-AT. The NN-HO stands for No Neck Ho.

Perversely enough, I considered getting it because it's so different than the AF or TS Ultra versions... but then I realized that it's just plain crap, all speeder-stomping benefits aside obviously.

Even the early McQuarrie AT-AT had a freakin' neck... and what's with the throbbing ribbed (for her pleasure) red missile?

Darth Duranium
04-10-2008, 08:41 PM
duplicated

JediGoofy
04-11-2008, 04:32 AM
... but then I realized that it's just plain crap, all speeder-stomping benefits aside obviously.
lol lol lol

... and what's with the throbbing ribbed (for her pleasure) red missile?
Really horrible (of course my AT-AT will never sport that "thing" ;) )


I really agree with you and JT, and FB, the head is bad, but I was so pleased with the poseable legs I had to share it with the SSG forumers. :D
Now I leave you 'cause I have to stomp yet another Snowspeeder! lol ;)

Ciao,
JediGoofy

sergiurusu
04-11-2008, 07:22 AM
A very good friend of mine has a nice review of the Transformers/WOTC lines on Rebelscum named SW Transformers/WOTC Critique (http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1887195&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1#1887195)

JediGoofy
04-14-2008, 05:20 AM
Hi Sergiu,
yes I know that thread, actually I decided to buy a Transformer AT-AT just because of toyguy's review. :)

But re-reading his post now, I noticed he says the AT-AT actually has a neck! :shocked:
It looks like the neck extends, I forgot! When I am back home I will give it a try. :D And then I will let know to all Transformer AT-AT detractors. ;)

Ciao (and thank you Sergiu :) ),
JediGoofy

Darth Duranium
04-14-2008, 04:44 PM
Hey JG,

Glad you enjoyed the jokes... sometimes it's hard to know how they come across in a forum, you crazed speeder stomping menace, you.

Maybe you should be called JediGodzilla.... I just hope you don't show up in Tokyo with a throbbing big red ribbed radioactive missile looking for an L train. Oh nooooo.... Godzirrra!

I guess I could be classified as a TF detractor... I picked up about 6 of the TF line, but most are relegated to boxes now. I added the Clone Turbo Tank to my shelves cuz there's no better AF analogue. Still, better than nuthin'...

Oh yeah, I added the TF Death Star (with landing gear(!)...looks like a TF Battleship core) which is good... but it took a ridiculous amount of time for me to assemble the fracker into a station... freakin' models are easier! It was, like, 30 steps to assemble it! Mechanical engineering is not for me...

My non-stomping beef with the line is that they're just a little too big for AF compatibility, they don't come with stands, and the design compromises a little too much for transformability, IMHO. I much preferred the TS Ultras (R.I.P.)... shame that they snuffed it.

Sergiu's post was interesting, though... didn't really know about RS's forums before. Is it just me, or are they a little bit disjointed and hard to follow? I still think SSG's better for the stuff I collect (ships)... and the peeps are kewl, too.

I think the AT-NN-HO-AT will look even goofier (sorry JG) with its neck extended... there'll be a weird seam at the minimum.The legs are a little willowy, too... this Ho would trip on her clear heels and fall on her face!

JediGoofy
04-15-2008, 10:03 AM
Yesterday evening, when I was back home, I checked my Transformer AT-AT and actually, as stated by toyguy on RS forums, there is indeed a neck! :D
You have to tug the head and it extends for about a third of an inch. :thumbsup:
Well, the head is still out of proportion with the rest of the body, but the look of the AT-AT is very much improved with the neck extended. :love:
So yesterday night I happily stomped on a few more Snowspeeders before going to sleep the sleep of the just. :D
Now I leave you 'cause I have to go to eBay since I am running out of MM Snowspeeders! ;)

Ciao,
JediGoofy


P.S. Darth Titanium, out of topic, I know how many misunderstandings can be generated in a forum. For example recently there has been a real flame war in the MM forum on RS, in a thread named "Die-Plastic Rehash". It started as a discussion about the quantity of plastic in the Titanium vehicles and then became a complete non-sense fight. :shocked: From a certain point of view it was fun, but also scaring. :( Me I am just happy with SSG forums and the people I meet here, since the days when the old Galoob Buzzboard closed. Bye! :)

sergiurusu
04-22-2008, 03:32 AM
Hi Sergiu,
yes I know that thread, actually I decided to buy a Transformer AT-AT just because of toyguy's review. :)

But re-reading his post now, I noticed he says the AT-AT actually has a neck! :shocked:
It looks like the neck extends, I forgot! When I am back home I will give it a try. :D And then I will let know to all Transformer AT-AT detractors. ;)

Ciao (and thank you Sergiu :) ),
JediGoofy

Glad to help JG! Edmund (toyguy) is an old friend of mine, huge Action Fleet and MicroMachines fan! :yes:

Darth Duranium
04-22-2008, 02:19 PM
JediGoofy: Darth Titanium, out of topic, I know how many misunderstandings can be generated in a forum. For example recently there has been a real flame war in the MM forum on RS, in a thread named "Die-Plastic Rehash"...

It's quite bizarre, considering that anyone who posts to these forums has got to be another obsessive-compulsive nerd to start off with. Na-noo na-noo.

Well, I guess even some nerds take themselves too seriously... but it might make for some interesting reading, like you're driving past a roll-over on the freeway.

How the amount of plastic on a TS translates into a flame war is just beyond me. How very geekily nerdlish.

Obviously, you have a good brain and a good sense of humour... but you might want to change your meds if the speeder stomping gets any more out-of-hand, dude.

And personally speaking , I sleep the sleep of the comatose unjust. Hehehehe... no rest for the wicked.

You got the AT-AT's neck to extend... does the phallic missile thing do likewise? Could be obscenely entertaining... just gotta find someone twisted enough to shoot at. I wonder if Monica Belucci is free for target practice?

Completely disregarding my juvenile posts, the tone of debate on SSG seems a little more mature than the tone at RS but I've spotted a few folks who post to both. SSG seems better for the AF and TS stuff, methinks. I'll stick to SSG, too.

Now watch while someone flames me and tears me a new one for dissing RS...lol