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Tycho
09-03-2008, 10:40 PM
Dude this show is great!

It's a new FX (cable, satelite, Direct TV) show about a motorcycle gang based kind of on the Hell's Angels. 10pm PST, but if you have satelite or Direct, check to see if it's not on right now! They play shows on EST.

So, in another life, there is some appeal to me being a biker gang member and doing murders for my gang, blowing up stuff, selling guns, etc. - but I probably wouldn't. The lack of women in men's prison doesn't appeal to me.

For fans of The Shield, I think some of the staff have gone over, and Jay Karnes (Dutch) will be playing an ATF agent next week. The One-Niners (black) gang from The Shield is also featured. I don't know if Dutch will play the same character - if it takes place in the same "universe" as The Shield. He gave a different name in next week's "Son's" preview, but he might be undercover. He seems to be more bad-arse and less nerd in Sons.

Ron Pearlman plays the biker gang leader in Sons - but you'd be surprised who's really calling the shots behind the gang! (We'll discuss it after everyone's seen the show).

Mr. JabbaJohnL
09-03-2008, 11:48 PM
All I know is that it has Lloyd from Undeclared and they played that "you look anywhere you want, chief" commercial way too many times.

JediTricks
09-04-2008, 03:56 PM
First off, I can't believe Tycho called me and left a voice mail trying to convince me to watch this. :p

My guess is Katey Sagal's character is really pulling the strings, she mentioned at Comic Con's Futurama panel that this was her new series, and the ads make it seem like she's a victim biker mom so that's usually the big twist.

Anyway, I have no interest in watching this, as a kid I knew a lot of bikers including several Hell's Angels, it's not as interesting a lifestyle as you'd think, and something happening every week is a laffer, much less correctly-executed gangland jobs.

Tycho
09-05-2008, 04:16 AM
My guess is Katey Sagal's character is really pulling the strings, she mentioned at Comic Con's Futurama panel that this was her new series, and the ads make it seem like she's a victim biker mom so that's usually the big twist.

Boy, you nailed that one. It came as a big surprise to me. So I guess I was entertained by that - as one might be if they weren't expecting it.


Anyway, I have no interest in watching this, as a kid I knew a lot of bikers including several Hell's Angels, it's not as interesting a lifestyle as you'd think, and something happening every week is a laffer, much less correctly-executed gangland jobs.

That's one interesting thing - their gangland jobs were not correctly executed, and from the series pilot, they've started a gangland war with their botched jobs. Thus I will give it a chance to get really interesting.

So JT, share with us what you learned about the Hell's Angels. I'm curious. (This comment was made sincerely and was not sarcastic at all - seriously).

OC47150
09-08-2008, 07:02 PM
Finally got around to watching it this morning. I enjoyed it. Good character development/introduction.

I can see already that Jax is conflicted on following his father's original vision and what the club as evolved into.

And it's great to see Ron Perlman in anything! :thumbsup:

Tycho
09-10-2008, 10:32 PM
Another great show tonight. The characters are really compelling.

I loved the stunt with the dead bodies.

OC47150
09-11-2008, 08:13 AM
It was a good one.

I feel for the probey gang member who gets all the crap details, like digging up bodies.

Are you getting the feeling that Katey Segal has as much as a say in the club as Ron Perlman does? Almost like a silent co-leader?

Tycho
09-11-2008, 07:26 PM
No. She actually runs the gang if you ask me.

I bet Clay (Ron Pearlman's character) is so whipped on her, that he follows her every suggestion.

Furthermore, I bet it comes out that she had Clay MURDER her first husband (Jax's father) so that the gang would step it up a bit and go into criminal enterprises.

Jax's father probably started down that path and then saw where it was leading him, and tried to get back control over it all - and the mom was fooling around with Clay behind his back - and then had Clay finally take him out of the picture.

OK - so what if the show is predictable in that way? I'd watch how it all plays out. But that's the first and most obvious plot direction I'd run with it.

OC47150
09-11-2008, 07:36 PM
No. She actually runs the gang if you ask me.

I bet Clay (Ron Pearlman's character) is so whipped on her, that he follows her every suggestion.

Furthermore, I bet it comes out that she had Clay MURDER her first husband (Jax's father) so that the gang would step it up a bit and go into criminal enterprises.

Jax's father probably started down that path and then saw where it was leading him, and tried to get back control over it all - and the mom was fooling around with Clay behind his back - and then had Clay finally take him out of the picture.

OK - so what if the show is predictable in that way? I'd watch how it all plays out. But that's the first and most obvious plot direction I'd run with it.


I could see that happening. Gem liking the power and wanting to stay in power, but dad is in the way. Dad definitely had different plans for the club.

I don't think the show is that predictable. It's an FX show, so some twists and turns will be tossed our way shortly.

OC47150
09-21-2008, 08:01 PM
Dutch from the Shield shows up in Charming! I thought Jay Karnes had dyed his hair on the Shield.

Tycho
09-22-2008, 02:25 AM
There's a place in my town with "Rent A Harley." I don't have a motorcycle license, but I bet they take people for rides or train them.

I was thinking about taking a friend and treating them, both of us doing this, and feeling like real prospects for Sam Crow.

Go to SonsOfAnarchy.com and learn all about being a biker! FX has a cool website they put together for SoA.

Tycho
09-25-2008, 01:25 PM
Another good show last night. I loved the shoot-out at The Tribe's clubhouse. Why more people weren't killed is beyond me. They should have showed more bodies and empty bikes. I'd like to learn what the biker code says about the rides of dead bikers.

The gun Gem gave Tera is likely a murder weapon she will use for blackmail. Tera put her prints on it now. The best thing the good little doctor can do is get rid of it - bury it somewhere - when no one from SamCrow is watching her. She has her own weapon, so she doesn't need that anyway.

I understand the value of an unregistered gun - but there is no free gift from Gem. She's dangerous. And if she found out Clay slept with that hanger-on girl out in Nevada, Clay might be the one in trouble. He's not as tough as he pretends, especially with his arthritis and aging issue.

Meanwhile, the Prospect was a real rookie. I felt sorry for him that he didn't get the girl, but while that hurt - and pretty severely I imagine - it's the perceived kind of hurt. He may be very lucky Clay didn't decide to make the Prospect's big mouth receive the physical kind of hurt.

Good show overall though!

Tycho
10-02-2008, 12:08 AM
How To Play Pocket-Hockey and Remove Tattoos

Oh man! Where do I begin? There was some serious pain being dished out in tonight’s episode!

Pocket-Hockey Man was a great actor. That guy had me cracking up. Compulsive Masturbation Disorder.

We first got introduced to the MC world and now we know all we ever wanted to about the CMD World. Do they have a club for that? I don’t even want to know what the tattoo for that one would look like!

Speaking of tattoos, everyone makes such a big deal about how painful it is to get them removed. Well after that one dude was done screaming with his flesh on fire, he slept through the rest of the proceedure. :)

Man I love this show!

OC47150
10-06-2008, 11:03 AM
Don't know which was worse, blow torching the tat off the guy's back or Chuckie sticking his hand down his pants every chance he got.

Good ep. Still one behind.

OC47150
10-07-2008, 10:48 AM
Picked up for a second season!!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/eonline/20081006/en_tv_eo/32426;_ylt=AlcbBW._5rfvkWU6gBhRAitpMhkF

Tycho
10-07-2008, 01:11 PM
That's pipin' hot!

So in season 1 they've castrated a pedophile-rapist, had a crack-baby born, removed someone's tattoo by blowtorch, featured a chronic masturbator, had a biker-babe orgy for a patch-over party. What the heck is next?!???

OC47150
10-08-2008, 09:07 AM
Let's see...

They haven't killed a fed yet (and I could see that happening before the end of the season) or robbed an Armenian money train. Ooops, wrong show. :razz:

DarthNihilus
10-16-2008, 03:49 PM
Picked up for a second season!!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/eonline/20081006/en_tv_eo/32426;_ylt=AlcbBW._5rfvkWU6gBhRAitpMhkF

Nice! I'm glad it got off to a good start, I'm hoping more 'The Shield' stars get onto the show.

OC47150
10-16-2008, 07:10 PM
Another good episode. When I saw that Ally Walker was going to be in it again, I thought, hot damn!! She has to be the hottest fed on TV!!! :love:

Tycho
10-23-2008, 06:27 AM
This show was awesome last night!

Agent Kohn's body wasn't even cold and Tara and Jax were making love right next to it!

And the Prospect stole an ambulance.... (to sell on eBay?)

OC47150
10-23-2008, 06:45 PM
As Dutch/Kohl's lifeblood seeps from his body, Jax and Tara get it on! What a show!!

Gemma's talk with the porn queen was interesting.

Tycho
10-30-2008, 02:44 AM
Tonight was a great show. I saw Kim Coates in Smallville playing an FBI Agent. He’s a guy named Kim - the one on Sons of Anarchy that ****s dead people (supposedly) and got bit in the *** by the guard dog.

I’m still figuring out who all the actors are that play which characters. I mean duh: I could read the official website, but it’s sort of fun this way. Anyway, Kim Coates is a good actor. He’s such scum on SoA and on Smallville, he was totally believeable as the complete opposite - some clean-shaven Federal agent.

Anyway, I’m liking Jax with Tara. I still think she’s pregnant or will be soon. My friend said it was too soon for her to have morning sickness, so the reason she threw up was because of shaken nerves from what just went down with Agent Kohn.

The Mayan boss was pretty cold. I gathered that was his own SON that he served up to be killed at the churro stand? That’s really cold. I thought family was everything to his clan? If he did that, he’ll still want Clay dead for sure. And Clay will send a surrogate gunning for him.

Anyway, I just like the feel of this show. I feel family-loyalty coming over me with Jax and the gang. Gemma’s still hard to bear, but I like Jax and Clay. I know those two will eventually be headed for war, and it will be hard to watch. But then, I’m with Jax all the way.

Jax almost decided he was all the way in tonight, too. When he threw the journal into the funeral pyre - I thought - that’s it: he’s all in. But then he surprised me by rescuing the book at the last minute. That was a great scene. Sometimes it’s the little things like that which make this show great.

Oh - and when Clay hurt his hand beating up the Nord boss in the sheriff’s holding cell. This show has so many great characters!

OC47150
10-31-2008, 10:59 AM
Good ep.

I can see Tara getting pregnant, but not yet. The sight of the blood on the bathroom floor made her hurl.

I kinda expected the Mayan boss's son to pay for his transgressions but not at the churro stand!

I like the old cop, Unser, more and more.

And Ally Walker is back next week! :whip:

Tycho
11-06-2008, 05:11 AM
Great show tonight! I was really surprised when Otto beat the crap out of that woman ATF agent.

BTW, recognize Otto as the Armean enforcer that cut off feet in The Shield? His first line was "Jesus Christ." On The Shield, Vic first described him with the line, "Jesus Christ over there is the shooter."

I wonder if they're going to kill the Prospect's little girlfriend (Cherry or Rita - whatever her real name is)?

OC47150
11-06-2008, 08:01 PM
Good episode. Ally Walker got the crap knocked out of her!!! Wow! Yet she had fun, too. :yes:

I think we won't see Rita/Cherry again.

Tycho
11-19-2008, 11:52 PM
Holy ****! I thought "That’s so ****ed up!"

I didn’t think Opie was going to die. I wasn’t sure, but I didn’t think so.

Then I thought they’d figure out who the witness who could ID Bobby was, and waste her.

But Donna? Innocent Donna who didn’t do anything?!

That **** is messed up!

The shoot-out with the Mayans and One-Niners was pretty cool, too. There was a lot of action in this show. I think it was the best episode of SoA yet - but man will it be PAINFULLY memorable, too.

And Clay knows what Tig did - and how badly they both ****ed up. On top of my suspicions that Gemma and Clay conspired to kill John Teller (Jax’s supposed dad), now Clay is in on this.

I hope Jax and Opie learn the real truth and wage war! There’s so much cause for revenge!

OC47150
11-20-2008, 06:45 PM
What do producers have against Sprague Graydon? Huh??? I liked Donna.

Good ep. I think hell's coming to Charming next week.

OC47150
11-30-2008, 06:39 PM
Nice wrap-up to the first season. Jax and Piney getting together will be interesting.

OC47150
04-16-2009, 08:18 PM
FX is already teasing the new season!!! I can't wait!!!!! :yes:

Tycho
04-17-2009, 01:06 AM
Very cool. I don't think it starts until September, correct?

OC47150
04-17-2009, 10:40 AM
That sounds about right. The commericals say fall.

OC47150
05-04-2009, 07:46 PM
Some SOA actors news.

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/watch_with_kristin/b121690_adam_arkin_joins_fxs_sons_of_anarchy.html

And the new commerical airing on FX shows two of the bikers dealing with a dog that's been fed meth!

OC47150
07-16-2009, 09:54 AM
Sept. 8 is the return date!

Tycho
07-20-2009, 01:35 AM
I started a season 2 thread with a brand new video preview of the second season. Geeze it looks awesome. Maybe we'll attract new SSG members to our SAMCROW charter club we've got going on here.

Only other topic that might concern us about Season 1 is when the DVD comes out?

Ando
08-07-2009, 04:11 PM
So FX ran the first 3 episodes last Saturday night and I watched them.

I found this to be extraordinarily bad TV in every sense of the word bad.

The dialogue and acting was marginal when the male characters were in the scenes, but when it was just the female characters, the dialogue and acting was 1970's made for TV bad.

These people are real scumbags (the characters, not the people who play them. I am a big fan of Ron, Katey, and even Kim Coates...) and I found that the only person I liked was the cop (not the crooked old guy, but the younger guy who was supposed to take over). And even he is kinda jerky.

Oh, and Sprague Grayden's character (whatever her name is, it was late...).

Having said all of that, I will continue to watch the replay episodes of Season 1 (2 more to air tomorrow after midnight) and will probably continue to watch into Season 2.

Tycho
08-07-2009, 07:33 PM
You remind me of Data in Star Trek Generations.

He gets the emotion chip so he can experience feelings for his first time.

Guinan (Whoopi Goldberg) pours him a drink.

Data says he hates it.

Guinan asks him if he wants more.

Data says "yes please."

The show is about "scumbags." Try as hard as I can, I haven't been able to stoop that low myself. It's not easy being a scumbag. Somehow I'd have to really work hard at it. But I'm fascinated by it for exactly that reason.

Imagine me, a Star Wars collector who makes a modest effort at being a baseball jock, joining a biker gang. Laughing already? Yeah - it's exactly that: the life I would probably never allow myself to lead.

If you're fascinated by this, try "Breaking Bad" on AMC. It's one of the few other TV shows I watch. A critically ill cancer patient who happens to be an ingenious high school chemistry teacher, becomes the kingpin meth cook of New Mexico and a ruthless criminal gang leader so he can leave money behind for his pregnant wife and disabled son. Allan Cranston stars.

Ando
08-10-2009, 08:55 AM
If you're fascinated by this, try "Breaking Bad" on AMC. It's one of the few other TV shows I watch. A critically ill cancer patient who happens to be an ingenious high school chemistry teacher, becomes the kingpin meth cook of New Mexico and a ruthless criminal gang leader so he can leave money behind for his pregnant wife and disabled son. Allan Cranston stars.

I never actually said I hate it. I just said it was bad TV. I actually find it entertaining. I watched 2 more episodes over the weekend.

I love Breaking Bad! That is a VERY interesting show. Walter White's transformation from Chem teacher to ruthless drug dealer is AMAZING.

Bryan Cranston is the name of the actor who plays Walter White.

OC47150
09-06-2009, 07:16 PM
It's back Tuesday night!!!! I can't wait!!!!!!!!!!

Tycho
09-07-2009, 10:45 PM
I will be missing it and catching the Monday night repeat before Tuesday's next new episode.

It's my best friend's birthday and I'm meeting friends up in Anaheim for Disneyland followed by the Angels game (vs. Seattle).

Ando
09-08-2009, 09:51 AM
I will be missing it and catching the Monday night repeat before Tuesday's next new episode.

It's my best friend's birthday and I'm meeting friends up in Anaheim for Disneyland followed by the Angels game (vs. Seattle).

No DVR, Tycho?

I am into this show now and enjoyed getting caught up the last few weeks with the late Saturday night repeats.

Tycho
09-09-2009, 12:38 PM
No. I don't have a DVR.

Maybe I should get one, but I watch very little TV. Let's see:

Sun - Breaking Bad
Mon - nothing (usually out watching football at a bar or something)
Tue - Sons of Anarchy
Wed - nothing
Thu - nothing
Fri - Smallville (but likely to skip it for going out Friday night)
Fri - Clone Wars (used to skipping it for going out Friday night)
Sat - nothing

So to get a DVR to record 4 (or less) TV shows? I haven't been so inclined.

I got a Direct TV package before they started offering DVRs too, I guess. It's still extra. But I buy the seasons (Smallville and Clone Wars anyway) on DVD, so I eventually see them all.

Besides, SoA will repeat Monday night before they show the new episode next Tues.

Feel free to post spoilers. It doesn't matter to me. I'll read and discuss them anyway. For example, I already know that Darth Vader is Luke Skywalker's father.

Ando
09-09-2009, 01:59 PM
Feel free to post spoilers. It doesn't matter to me. I'll read and discuss them anyway. For example, I already know that Darth Vader is Luke Skywalker's father.

Right, but did you know that Leia is Luke's sister?!?

Okay, so you probably don't need a DVR, but beware, if you decide to get one, it will change your life and how you watch TV. Not necessarilly for the better or for the worse. But it will change how you watch TV.

OC47150
09-15-2009, 05:38 PM
The first ep was great! Gemma's attack will add an interesting wrinkle to this season.

Can't wait to see what happens tonight.

OC47150
09-23-2009, 07:02 PM
Good ep. Is Hale turning to the dark side?

I loved the look Tara gave the actress when Tara and Jax were getting it on. It was like, yeah, baby, he's mine!

OC47150
10-08-2009, 07:19 PM
Two good eps in a row. A fat boy on a Fat Boy was a great line.

I wanted to hear more about Tig's warrant out of Oregon!

OC47150
10-14-2009, 07:27 PM
A blind man could've seen that the boys were being set up. But going to a dinner party and not a recruitment meeting was a nice twist.

Gemma and Tara shooting up the porn actress's car was funny. A bonding moment for the ladies.

Darth Nobody
10-14-2009, 08:02 PM
this year ever episode has been great i think. any thoughts on how this will end? im going with clay killing weston after he finds out they raped gemma. clay ends up in jail and jax takes over the club. just a thought.

Ando
10-15-2009, 10:15 AM
Gemma and Tara shooting up the porn actress's car was funny. A bonding moment for the ladies.

I thoroughly enjoyed the ladies doing target practice on those posters and that chick's car.

This show has grown on me and I have enjoyed the character development very much.

I know that Jax is supposed to be Clay's stepson, but watching this week's episode, I noticed they did a really good job at casting two people (Clay/Ron Perlman and Jax/Charlie Hunnam) who could pass for father and son. I think a really interesting and wild plot twist to this show would be to reveal that Clay is in fact Jax's dad and NOT John Teller's son, something that only Gemma may in fact know.

If this has already been explored or discussed, forgive.

OC47150
10-22-2009, 08:15 PM
I know that Jax is supposed to be Clay's stepson, but watching this week's episode, I noticed they did a really good job at casting two people (Clay/Ron Perlman and Jax/Charlie Hunnam) who could pass for father and son. I think a really interesting and wild plot twist to this show would be to reveal that Clay is in fact Jax's dad and NOT John Teller's son, something that only Gemma may in fact know.

If this has already been explored or discussed, forgive.

Interesting theory. It's plausible.

I would've liked to seen the guys suffer/sweat it out in jail a little longer.

I've also enjoyed Gemma and Tara's relationship change this season. They're on the same level now, not adversaries like last season.

darthbooger
10-22-2009, 08:34 PM
This show Clone Wars and Breaking Bad are the only three shows of any quality left on tv as far as I'm concerned. I'm not really sure what that says. :rolleyes:

Ando
10-23-2009, 10:22 AM
This show Clone Wars and Breaking Bad are the only three shows of any quality left on tv as far as I'm concerned. I'm not really sure what that says. :rolleyes:

I would disagree with that and not to be contrary but because I think there are lots of different kinds of great shows on right now. The problem is there are too many channels and too many hours in the day (programming wise, lots of cable channels are 24 hours unlike the old days when broadcast affiliates had a definitive end to their programming day...) so lots of junk gets on the air, too, and that dilutes the amount of quality you get on any given channel at any given time of day.

darthbooger
10-23-2009, 10:57 AM
I should have said interest instead of quality.:D

Ando
10-23-2009, 12:11 PM
I should have said interest instead of quality.:D

Gotcha, that makes sense. Fair enough!

OC47150
10-29-2009, 07:07 PM
I wouldn't want to be around the Teller-Morrow house for Thanksgiving.

Tycho
10-30-2009, 07:28 AM
I've been saying that it's possible Clay is Jax's real dad for a long time now.

If Jax kills Clay, that will be the real mind-bender.

Speaking of Breaking Bad, when is the new season supposed to start?

I enjoy that show.

OC47150
11-01-2009, 03:01 PM
I've been saying that it's possible Clay is Jax's real dad for a long time now.

If Jax kills Clay, that will be the real mind-bender.

Speaking of Breaking Bad, when is the new season supposed to start?

I enjoy that show.

I could see that being revealed as the season-ending cliffhanger, Tycho. Something shocking to hold us over until the next season.

My guess, Breaking Bad probably won't return until sometime early next year, like March. AMC hasn't started advertising the new season yet.

Tycho
11-01-2009, 04:35 PM
I could see that being revealed as the season-ending cliffhanger, Tycho. Something shocking to hold us over until the next season.


I've got it:

Jax is a clone of John Teller Jax had no real mother Gemma is actually John Teller - he had a sex change so he could be with Clay Morrow (who is not gay)

darthbooger
11-01-2009, 05:45 PM
Man I was so into this show until that freak showed up. That punk would last about 0.1 second in a real club. I just cant believe the writers went in this direction. Did they think that everyone had forgotten about "The Crying Game" ? :upset:

OC47150
11-04-2009, 07:56 PM
Good ep. The fallout from the Caracara fire is going to be interesting.

And Gemma has seen the light!! Gotta wonder if she's gonna open up about her attack to Clay or Jax.

OC47150
11-10-2009, 07:44 PM
Don't forget: 90-minute episode tonight!!!!

OC47150
11-11-2009, 08:24 PM
Ah, the pivotal episode we've been waiting for! The fallout from this ep is gonna be great.

I think last night was the first time we saw Opie with knit cap off.

Tycho
11-11-2009, 09:35 PM
I'm really going to have to catch up on this show.

I plan to buy the DVD sets for certain.

When Breaking Bad starts up again, I now have a DVR.

OC47150
11-18-2009, 07:25 PM
Breaking Bad is back in March.

Another good ep. I can see a lot of this season's loose ends coming together.

OC47150
11-25-2009, 07:31 PM
Zobel and his daughter kissing kinda creeped me out.

It's coming to head next week.

Glad to see Tara give it to the hospital administrator. Gemma's little talk empowered Tara. She's Jax Teller's old lady, ya'know.

Nice to see Lem from the Shield back on FX!

Tycho
11-27-2009, 12:40 PM
Yup. Lem was the character on The Shield that I identified with the most.

It was so painful watching him die at Shane's hand.

OC47150
11-28-2009, 10:50 AM
Yup. Lem was the character on The Shield that I identified with the most.

It was so painful watching him die at Shane's hand.

It was painful.

Here's an interesting article about Katey Sagel. Nothing revealing or anything.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091127/ap_en_ot/us_tv_katey_sagal

Tycho
11-28-2009, 04:27 PM
That was interesting. I posted it to my MySpace group for SoA.

OC47150
12-02-2009, 08:29 PM
What a way to end the season!!!

Gemma framed for murder and on the lam! Abel kidnapped! The Prospect dead. Weston killed in the crapper. Zobel fleeing to Hungary.

Jax's pained scream at the end was great.

When is this great show coming back????

darthbooger
12-02-2009, 08:34 PM
I really have to remember not to look at this thread before I watch the episode....:tired:

OC47150
12-03-2009, 07:30 PM
Next September?!? Are you kidding me???

http://www.darkhorizons.com/news/15829/tv-news-anarchy-true-blood-dr-who

I hope they producers don't do like the soaps and make Abel a teenager for next season.

Tycho
12-05-2009, 02:59 AM
Yeah, but SoA was the No.1 rated show for its time-slot. How cool is that?

Predictable maybe - but nevertheless very cool that it IS predictable in the first place. Samcro rocks!

OC47150
04-22-2010, 06:53 PM
Hal Holbrook is joining the cast for a multi-story arc.

http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2010/04/hal-holbrook-joins-sons-of-anarchy-lisa-kudrow-gives-showtime-therapy.html

Tycho
04-23-2010, 02:04 AM
As Gemma's father.... :tired:

Gemma makes me sick a lot of the time. (I know she's supposed to.)

But would there really be something wrong with Jax running over his mother with a motorcycle?

The show would get instant hardcore credit for that one I'm sure.

OC47150
09-09-2010, 08:19 PM
Glad the boys are back.

I thought it was a catch-up ep, explaining what's happened since the season 2finale. The action really picked up in the last few minutes.

Just from the backdrop, it looks like Abel might already be in Northern Ireland.

nohagent
09-09-2010, 08:26 PM
Yeah those guys are great, would be nice to have real life contacts like that..hahaha, my life would be much easier

Tycho
09-10-2010, 09:55 AM
I recorded it. I may have to play back a couple new episodes next week as I'm quite busy this weekend (in a good way!)

Meanwhile, I bought SoA season 2 on DVD at Target.

OC47150
09-28-2010, 03:11 PM
Stephen freakin' King was the Cleaner! How cool!!

OC47150
09-29-2010, 06:46 PM
Loved the line about Gemma disguising herself as a red head. Shades of Peg Bundy there.

Still thinking the guys will take the show on the road and go to Belfast.

Tycho
10-05-2010, 01:37 PM
That will be interesting - if they do location shooting, even on a mock-up set of Ireland.

Sons of Ireland, eh?

OC47150
10-10-2010, 06:57 PM
Just read where the show was picked up for a fourth season!

At my local festival this weekend, I saw a SoA Indiana shirt. I almost bought it.

Good ep. Jax's pact with the devil is going to be interesting.

OC47150
10-20-2010, 08:43 PM
It's not just a road trip, but a family road trip!!!:thumbsup:

Oswald must be doing good 'cause the boys are flying in a C-17. I didn't know those were available to the public. It's a military transport.

OC47150
10-28-2010, 08:57 PM
Good ep. From the looks of it, a film crew was sent to Ireland for generic background shots and California countryside was used for the close-ups, but I could be wrong.

Was I the only one thinking Jax and his half-sister were gonna end up in the sack?

nohagent
10-28-2010, 08:58 PM
Its totally going the way of Jax/Trinity.....Luke/Leia action

OC47150
11-24-2010, 07:43 PM
Boy, Stahl is a cold-hearted bitty.

Glad to see the Teller family reunion.

It's surprising that the events of this season have just taken place in a month's time on the show.

nohagent
11-24-2010, 07:49 PM
yeah, the time period seems compressed and I just rather not hear them say it as it sounds too fictional for me

OC47150
12-02-2010, 06:50 PM
Powerful ep to end the season. The final scenes were very MacBethish, which the show is very loosely based on.

If my memory is correct (and sometimes it's a little fuzzy) but I think this ep made the first reference to Unger's cancer all season long.

Spoiler:












Glad Stahl finally got hers. But I will miss her.

End of Spoiler.


Now we have to wait until next fall for season 4.

OC47150
07-06-2011, 06:49 PM
The show returns in September. Commericials are starting to air.

And look who'll guess star this season!!

http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2011/07/sons-of-anarchy-welcomes-david-hasselhoff-no-kidding.html

OC47150
09-08-2011, 04:34 PM
Didn't realize how much I missed this show until it was back. Looks like a lot of secrets for this season.

Tycho
09-22-2011, 11:25 AM
I'm just kicking back for the ride.

I used to think Clay was actually Jax's real father and it was all a mind-f for the viewers if Jax kills Clay and then learns the truth.

Now I wonder if there's a way Gemma is not even Jax's real mother?

I don't know what's coming next.

I got a cool SAMCRO t-shirt from Best Buy for picking up Sn 3 on DVD there.

I also like all the guys from The Shield coming back for guest star roles on SoA - Lem, Ronnie, Wimms, (and Dutch in Sn 1 as Tara's ex-boyfriend).

OC47150
09-22-2011, 05:37 PM
I got a cool SAMCRO t-shirt from Best Buy for picking up Sn 3 on DVD there.

I also like all the guys from The Shield coming back for guest star roles on SoA - Lem, Ronnie, Wimms, (and Dutch in Sn 1 as Tara's ex-boyfriend).

You have to tell us, Tycho, what extras are on the DVD set. This season has eluded to a lot of stuff happening while in prison, stuff that's only on the DVD/BR sets.

I'm enjoying this season so far.

Tycho
09-22-2011, 05:51 PM
You have to tell us, Tycho, what extras are on the DVD set. This season has eluded to a lot of stuff happening while in prison, stuff that's only on the DVD/BR sets.

I'm enjoying this season so far.

I'll have to get back to you on that, OC.

I haven't had time to open it yet, and I'm watching all Civil War / 1800's gunfighting stuff on DVD right now - as it's helping out with my writing.

OC47150
09-29-2011, 11:28 AM
Hasn't Piney been on death's doorstep since the beginning of the series?

The DA is a creepy dude.

Tycho
10-04-2011, 07:01 AM
The mayor is also creepy. He reminds me of Jerry Springer. That's not a compliment. Furthermore, I bet he's a pedophile. He just looks like one.

Next, the head of special investigations is a DA? The biker guy investigating the MC and the Cartel connection? I guess I don't really listen to him because I haven't let go of the exact same emotional response. He is creeyp! Standing on the table, stalking Gemma in the flower shop with the sheriff's wife.

I don't believe the sheriff has the authority by the way:

- he can't tell the gang that they can't wear their SoA cuts. There's freedom of speech and no public dress code (except for nudity I think).

- he can't bust up the SoA clubhouse either. It's not Clay's style to "sue him in court," but it is an option. If the club wants revenge on the sheriff - by violence - they may get that satisfaction later. But they could sue him now. Perhaps they think they can't win that way? (But it would get this guy removed from office in the meanwhile - they can kick the crap out of him or kill him later).

You can't say that they don't want to attract attention - they've already done that.

Tycho
10-13-2011, 04:54 AM
Did you see that bullet pass through that dude's eye socket?!

Also, you can't miss the great lookin adult film actresses! Wow!

Thumb's up for last night's show!

OC47150
10-13-2011, 05:55 PM
Miles' death was pretty graphic. I let loose a big ole 'ooooh' at the slugs going through the old nodgin.

More and more shades of Hamlet have popped up this season than previous ones, IMO. I know the show's loosely based on the Bard's tale but some of the big revelations this year just remember me of the story more.

Tycho
10-14-2011, 10:45 PM
speculation with some facts that knock your SAMCRO socks off:

Clay not John Teller is actually Jax's real dad.

1. John ignored Gemma

2. Gemma had an affair with the old Sheriff (when he was not so old).

3. Clay found out about it and moved in - perhaps blackmailing the Sheriff when he helped cover up John's death.

4. Gemma was already pregnant with Clay's natural son - Jax.

5. Clay may or may not know that Jax is his real son.

6. Jax will eventually kill Clay, only later learning that was his real father! Mind-FK!

Or worse:

that woman in Ireland is somehow Jax's real mother even? Or John left Gemma for that other woman so she had her affairs with the Sheriff and Clay for revenge.

It's a cable show that attracts better writers and more complicated stories, so you know it's not going to be simple!

OC47150
10-18-2011, 07:58 PM
SOA's been picked up for a fifth season.

http://www.deadline.com/2011/10/fx-renews-sons-of-anarchy-for-season-5/

I compared notes with another SOA fan over the weekend, and both of us agree that someone big will not live to see season 5. It might be Clay.

However the show ends, it won't be rainbows and unicorns.

OC47150
10-19-2011, 01:34 PM
Spoiler:











At the beginning of last night's ep, I started to think Juice wouldn't survive to the end of the season. I didn't expect him to off himself last night! His confliction was pretty obvious last night, but I thought the producers/writers would make him sweat for a few more eps.

And I'd never noticed the Men of Mayhem verbage on the compound wall until last night's ep. And Clay gave Juice a tab with that slogan.

Bobby Elvis is getting ballsy! It will be interesting to see if the vote is postponed or not.

Tycho
10-19-2011, 04:15 PM
I wonder if Juice died, or if one of the other Club members get there just in time before he's affixiated.

Because hanging is supposed to work best when the neck is instantly snapped.

Otherwise the victim suffocates.

Juice was going through the latter but Jax or someone could arrive on the scene only seconds later after the credits shown.

That could stretch it out for you OC.

Now....

one possibility that I see is that Sheriff Roseveldt doesn't like being pushed around by the DA and when he learns that Juice took his own life (I think Rooseveldt has sympathies for Juice as some kind of lost little brother) the Sheriff turns on the DA and tips Clay off and even helps the club. He'll say that he's still there enemy, but he won't prosecute them using illegal methods that endanger lives. It could be an uneasy truce.

The new sheriff will return next season. This $@$@#1 D.A. will not. That's one (good) possibility. I'd like to see the D.A. get his handed to him and I'd find new respect for Sheriff Roseveldt.

Clay won't die now though. No way. Ron Pearlman is too big of star plus the crux of the show will be the final conflict between Jax and Clay. They're comfortable with their differences right now, but the drug trafficking and Juice's death will help to blow things wide open.

What it might be is that Jax won't let the next one be Opie. That's his best friend. And he's seen what's happened to Juice.

OC47150
10-19-2011, 06:16 PM
After I posted I read on another website that, as the credits started to roll, you could hear a branch cracking. I haven't gone back to listen.

I do think someone big will die by season's end.

Tycho
10-21-2011, 07:45 PM
That could have been someone walking in the underbrush, "crackling," too.

In 96 hours we'll find out. Meanwhile, there's enough time to have a good weekend.

OC47150
10-27-2011, 03:20 PM
Well, I guess we were wrong, Tycho.

The head in the chili was great. And the cops eating chili, too much!!

Poor Piney. The voice of reason is gone. : (

Tycho
10-28-2011, 04:49 AM
Yes. Piney...

But the head in the chilli was classic! That will probably become my most-remembered scene from SoA ever!

OC47150
11-02-2011, 07:05 PM
I'm thinking we're building to an explosive season conclusion here.

Gemma was really playing up the Lady MacBeth angle last night.

Damn, can this show get any better??

Tycho
11-03-2011, 05:56 AM
Gemma is very complicated.

Was she really crying for Piney?

Clay could beat the crap out of her. She's a biker's wife. But is she in fact more dangerous?

Jax turning on Clay about his comment about Tara - "I'll pound your hands so you'll never be able to hold that gavel again!" - that was awesome!

I didn't ever have the impression that Clay would want to kill Jax - his (adopted?) son - but now perhaps that is changing?

The preview for next week and that drive-by shooting in Oregon looks way intense.

Yes - this show is really coming to a boil.

And don't forget Otto in prison. Something's up with that.

Juice turning on the sherrif when he saw the DA's tactical room was great, too. Now we know Potter wants to achieve well beyond his jurisdiction and stop the IRA arms trade and the drug cartels. It's not about SoA for him. He's becoming more interesting and less annoying. His jumping up on the table during the fight was kind of freaky. It was like a grammar schoolyard fight when everyone rushes to watch.

OC47150
11-03-2011, 10:49 AM
The USDA reminds me of a young Sam Waterson, like from the Killing Fields.

I think those were genuine tears for Piney. He's one of the last true and pure connections to JT, IMO.

Oh, yeah, Otto.

Tycho
11-04-2011, 07:39 AM
I'd like to see a one-or-two-part story arc for SoA set "back in the day," with temporary young actors playing Clay, JT, Piney, Otto, etc.

It would be partially set during the Vietnam War and be much like Platoon.

Clay would be a tough, ends justify the means, break the rules sergeant like Barnes in Platoon.

JT would be a corporal with bright idealistic ideas and well-liked by the rest of his squad, which would include Piney, Otto, probably Bobby, maybe Tiggy, etc.

Actually - cut that - FIRST START IN CHARMING HIGH SCHOOL!

Gemma would be getting around - maybe with the future sherrif first - and falling for JT. Perhaps Clay was an older student, kind of jealous?

Then the boys go off from the community to Vietnam and bond there, surviving and probably experiencing all the controversy associated with that war - burning and plundering, raping and murdering.

Then they talk about coming back to the states and buying Harleys and always sticking together to get them through the war.

They do. Form the club. JT has his affair and Gemma runs back to the sherrif.

To make money, the club uses their military connections to buy and smuggle guns, with the LA gangs, and especially the IRA.

Clay sees his opportunity to move in on Gemma, and use her to control the sherrif, in the face of JT's tragic death.

This is the SoA "first class." The 2nd generation is Jax, Opie, Juice, and prospects, etc.

Tycho
11-09-2011, 06:06 AM
Best episode of Sons Of Anarchy EVER!

And who killed John Teller? Clay or Gemma?

Why would Clay protect Jax? Is Clay Jax's real father after all? But remember the heart condition that all the Tellers have?

Is it just coincidence?

And the old sherrif's relationship with Gemma is just creepy!

Man it all has come to a head.

Clay gets pinned with Piny's murder - but he should be as he really DID kill him.

But Clay could turn on Gemma for that - and perhaps expose that SHE killed John Teller - because she was pregnant with Jax - Clay's son. Clay covered it up and as a reward, got Gemma away from the old Sherrif?

Maybe she had her affair with the sherrif a long time ago when John Teller was cheating on her with that Irish woman?

Oh man this show is twisted! 4th season has it finally hitting its best stride!

OC47150
11-09-2011, 06:27 PM
Very intense ep indeed.

Clay's crossed the line. Don't know if he could be saved, or should be at this point.

Wayne is a little creepy. I think he's been sweet on Gemma all these years but could never have her, him being a cop and her the biker mamma.

Tycho
11-23-2011, 11:38 AM
I think Wayne has had Gemma and Clay knows about it.

There's a missing link there. Clay probably took Gemma away from Wayne.

Meanwhile, YES OPIE! YES!!!

Clay gunned down!

Although I saw one bullet hole in his chest - about where his heart is - and it wasn't bleeding but was like a red dot. Strange.

Opie did not miss though!

Also, in next week's preview, you see (out of order) a scene where Jax yells "Call an ambulance!"

It was in the club house at that moment even though they showed other scenes first.

Clay was definitely shot!

If they remove Ron Pearlman from the cast, this show definitely has balls and suprises that no one possibly saw coming!

There's still more of a story to tell, even without Clay. And Bobby seems to be removed (behind bars) as well.

Tig is turning cool on Clay too.


Jax could ascend to leadership affecting his decision to leave Charming if he takes over the club.

OC47150
11-23-2011, 07:20 PM
I was telling a fellow SOA fan this past weekend that I thought the show would do a 'Who Shot JR' type set-up with Clay. Guess I was wrong.

Tig for club president!! He and Chips are the only ones left.

Tycho
11-27-2011, 11:07 AM
I hate to say it, but the club has to fall (the Redwood Original Charter) - maybe.

Right now I want to see Clay pay for what he's done to everyone (though I kind of feel sorry for him if he'd just stop and fix things - because he still can).

Otherwise, I want to see Jax and Tara get out and save their kids.

And we need justice for Opie!

On the other hand. I can see Opie becoming hardcore and taking over the club and running it ruthlessly. I think that will happen. I don't think Tig could stand up to an enraged Opie.

The problem is, at least in so far as selling guns, that is how the club members make money (in Charming). They all need to be able to support themselves.

OC47150
11-27-2011, 06:36 PM
There are some interesting storylines/plots being set up for next season, I'll give you that.

Tycho
06-08-2012, 01:55 AM
Jimmy Smits, (Bail Organa) is going to be on Sons Of Anarchy this coming season.

His real life girlfriend is going to be playing "an associate" of his gangland character on the show.

Will Clay Morrow acquire the Death Star and blow up South Central Los Angeles?

Tune in to Sons of Anarchy next season to find out.

Tycho
10-11-2012, 01:16 AM
The single funniest episode of SoA ever just aired!

Did people recognize Walton Goggins? I was laughing so hard.

Are you coming?

Not yet baby. You have to eat dinner before you get desert.

OC47150
10-11-2012, 08:45 AM
I did. I kept thinking, that can't be but it was! He did a great job.

This season has been great so far. Bail Organa banging Peggy Bundy in the first few minutes. It would've been funnier if Gemma said her name was Peg.

Tycho
10-11-2012, 10:04 AM
OC, I can count on it that we watch the same shows:

Sons of Anarchy
Breaking Bad
Justified
Walking Dead (?)
Hell on Wheels (?)
Copper (on BBC - and if you don't, you should as you know you can trust my picks as I'd trust yours)
Southland (? - and if you watch it, when does it come back?)
Falling Skies (?)
Into The West (?)

Formerly...

The Shield
Smallville
The Pacific
Band of Brothers
North and South (very old - 80's, but you'd like this Civil War mini-series based off John Jakes' books)

and maybe the comedies...

Wilfred
Unsupervised
Archer

But I think Sons Of Anarchy THIS SEASON has topped all of these shows (with the exception of the true war stories) and Breaking Bad tends to be my usual favorite, too.

And Walton Goggin's guest role stole the whole darn thing! That was way too funny! It's been 2 days and I'm still laughing!

OC47150
10-11-2012, 10:35 AM
SOA
Justified
Walking Dead
Hell on Wheels
Southland
Falling Skies
The Shield
Archer

Yep, those are my must-sees.

Speaking of WWII, Basil Plumley, the sergeant major from We Were Soldiers, passed away.

Tycho
10-12-2012, 09:34 AM
since you like hell on wheels which I love as well check out copper about cops in New York City during the same time, 1864. Tammany Hall, Lincoln's reelection, the secret Confederate plot to blow up New York City... you would also like breaking bad about methamphetamine and a high school chemistry teacher who becomes the drug lord of the West.

OC47150
10-17-2012, 12:02 PM
Boy, that's one strong snow globe! Glad to see the guard get it.

Next week's preview looks good. It will be interesting to see what happens (if anything) to Unser. As a character, he's grown retiring as sheriff. Since it hasn't been mentioned for quite some time, I take it his cancer is either in remission or it's no longer a part of the storyline.

Tycho
10-18-2012, 05:39 AM
I want to see Pope get it.

I just can't find sympathy for that character (though I like him being a bad guy). But his daughter was killed. Still he killed Tigg's daughter (brutally) and now Opie.

BTW, Tara is hot.

OC47150
10-31-2012, 07:43 AM
I drive high all the time. Great line.

Tycho
10-31-2012, 02:10 PM
Jax got hardcore there with blasting that guy off the roof!

Good episode.

So now where is Scott (got pistol whipped over the head)? How is he going to get back? That's a bad wound, but he wasn't shot.

I like Bail Organa (or I mean Nero) in this season! Great character! I want all the SoA girls to return to his brothel! Good scenery. Loved Ashley Tisdale as one of them! Haha.

Now that Juice has spilled his secret, I don't trust Clay to not use that against him. I think it was stupid of him to tell Clay. He like worship's him. I don't think the show's ever really explained why. He's Jax' age and should have been close to Jackson and Opie - and maybe therefore loyal to Jax.

Loved Tara punching Gemma! Great scene, too.

OC47150
11-14-2012, 07:32 AM
The question that popped into my mind from this ep is this: Juice is half-black, which goes against the club charter/rules. But one of the new prospects that followed Hightower looked Asian to me. Does that rule not apply toward Asian?

Bourbon and corn flakes: the breakfast of champions!

I never noticed how skinny Chips was until this ep. He's like a bean pole.

Hated seeing the nurse get it. And what a way she got it!

Tycho
11-15-2012, 01:27 PM
The nurse thing was awesome (not for her though).

But I kept thinking Otto would rape Tara. That's what worried me. He has nothing to lose by doing that.

I know he wanted to mess up Tara and Jax's life I guess - by making Tara an accessory - but was the nurse a specific target or just one of opportunity for him?

Anyway, the MC is not prejudiced against blacks in actuality. It might have been a founding charter prejudice, but it doesn't seem to apply now - nor would the membership have cared if they found out about Juice and he had not been involved in anything else. The fear was all Juice's own (on that part) and Sherriff Rooseveldt exploited it. Mean thing for one black to do to another, especially if the sherriff was supposed to be a good guy (originally).

Anyway, with all of this scheming and masterminding blackmail and betrayals, Jax has already become Clay. The plans just have to happen now. And Tara will become Gemma - especially if her options become limited by her becoming an accessory to Otto's murder.

Jax is also becoming a hardcore killer - especially because of what happened to Opie.

So....

Betray Tigg to Damon Pope once the deal is sealed. Will he? Jax is taking Pope to be a mentor it almost seems.

Probably due-in Juice once he's no longer of any use (?) Surprised Juice - at his younger age - wouldn't be closer to Jax (and Opie) before - especially over Clay.

Betray Gemma and use her to get to Clay. Don't know if he'll just leave her to Nero or what when it's over? Tara will never forgive Gemma in her heart for endagering the kids, you'd think.

Get evidence on Clay and kill him.

Kill Damon Pope over Opie?

Left in the club? - Bobby, Jax, prospects, Chibs, (maybe Juice???)

I'm thinking the Original Redwood could fold. Jax and Tara should have left town a long time ago, maybe even hid from the DEA / FBI. I think Jax was just staying for Opie before hand.

OC47150
11-19-2012, 04:26 PM
Season finale is early December.

OC47150
11-21-2012, 07:55 AM
I don't know what it was, but I found Tara extremely attractive during her scenes with Unser. Very natural, likeable. Maybe it was the laugh.

When the federales want to meet with you, they know how to summons you to a meeting!

Ah, the strength of a late 80s/early 90s station wagon. Didn't the care flip over, and yet kept going?

With two eps left, it's interesting to speculate who won't live to see season 6. Unser's a possibility, but I think his life expectancy will be stretched one more season. He is a likeable guy. Clay is a strong contender, as is Tigg.

Boy, Bail Organa went medevil on his old home boys!

Tycho
11-25-2012, 11:42 PM
Tara is extremely attractive. I'd get really turned on seeing her play the role of a slut, btw. Here's to hoping Maggie Siff finds some work at it.

OC47150
12-05-2012, 04:51 PM
A fellow SOA fan thought the framing of Clay came together too quickly. I hadn't thought about it until he mentioned it but he was right. If you listen to the time frame Jax was working with, no way possible the evidence could've linked Clay. It was a little convenient that Clay's gun was registered. But it is TV, right?

Gruesome scene award is a tie: Otto biting off his tongue and the guy getting his face rammed into a container of nails. The Latino being attacked by the pit bull in the car was close.

Going out on a limb here, but I think Tara's problems will dominate the storyline next season.

Darn, now we have to wait until September. : (

OC47151
05-08-2013, 09:25 AM
The local Harley Davidson shop did a SOA event with Opie and Chibs in attendance. I heard about it too late, but it would've been interesting to attend. Might want to check the Harley shops out in your respective areas to see if the tour is coming to your town.

Tycho
05-08-2013, 10:14 PM
Good to know. I have a Harley dealer near me. It's on the way to SD's airport as a matter of fact.

They even let you rent a Harley and go for a ride (with an instructor).

OC47151
07-11-2013, 05:14 PM
Teaser for the new season starting in September. Looks good!!

http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2013/07/sons-of-anarchy-season-6-teaser-shows-samcro-at-war-with-itself.html

Tycho
09-11-2013, 04:22 AM
HOLY (censored)!

In the first episode how do you talk about what happened on THIS website for all ages?

Well Otto got ------ in the --- in prison.

In the women's detention area, we got to see a brutal -----fight.

Tig took an Iranian S&M ---movie maker who was -------- girls in his movies and beat the ---- out of him and then drowned him in human -----.

Jax cheated on his wife with a ------ in a -----house.

And a 10 year old kid brought a machine gun to church school and started a massacre.

Overall - that was awesome!!! - and I can't believe it was all in one (and the first) episode!!!

OC47151
09-11-2013, 07:33 AM
The ep set up a lot of the storylines/plot twists for this season. And it's gonna be good!

I kept wondering about the school boy throughout the show. What was the symbolism? And then we found out.

Tig is so unbalanced, it's scary. Kim Coates plays such a scumbad so good that it's award worthy.

It always amazes me how fast this show moves. The 90 minutes went by too fast.

Tycho
09-11-2013, 11:54 PM
Yeah, if the next episode is only 1 hour, it will now seem really short.

I was thinking the kid was the young Jax until that scene when he saw Jax where he was sitting outside that café.

I am sympathetic to Tig since he lost his daughter.

I do NOT want Jax to serve him up "once Clay is dead."

Of all the people on the show to hate, Clay and Gemma top my list.

In my dreams, Jax and Tara will enter them both in "Celebrity Death Match" or "The Hunger Games." Next tribute!!! Haha.

I've been OK with Juice. He made some poor choices instead of asking the club for help, but I understand why.

Where was Roosevelt in this huge episode? He was like the only one missing.

I also wonder if Wendy is sincere or untrustworthy. I'm leaning towards the latter. She is dedicated to her son (Jax' firstborn).

I just KNOW he's either going to be filmed and thus blackmailed for his behavior in the brothel or he's going to be stupid and tell Tara about it - remember Tom Cruise in "The Firm." If there is no secret video of Jax and the madam, then he should NEVER bring that subject up again when Tara gets out. But I know her behavior of not wanting him (as a gang captain) to reflect badly on her at her hearing / trial is making Jax doubt their relationship.

OC47151
09-12-2013, 03:10 PM
Kurt Sutter's been taking some flack over the school shooting scene in the premiere ep.

One TV columnist brought up a good point: why don't the SAMCRO boys have iPhones? Discuss amongst yourselves.

OC47151
09-18-2013, 07:51 AM
Another great ep that flew by in a flash.

When Juice was washing his hands after the deed, I kept thinking of that quote from Macbeth: Out, out, damn spot. And Jax's kiss to Juice afterward, very Judas like.

Bobby's storyline is involving into something interesting, too. Very little dialogue but it spoke volumes of things to come.

Tycho
09-19-2013, 03:35 AM
Why don't they kill the ext US Marshal?l it would solve everything

OC47151
09-19-2013, 07:23 AM
Why don't they kill the ext US Marshal?l it would solve everything

Part of me agrees, Tycho, but wouldn't it bring down more scrutiny on the club? And for someone who's retired, he still has a lot of clout.

OC47151
09-25-2013, 05:43 PM
We should start a pool to see how long before Donal Logue buys it. Shooting the call girl by accident was hilarious.

And oh Peter Weller! You go!

OC47151
10-02-2013, 07:40 AM
I think we heard the line of the season last night: I didn't see that coming.

I knew it was only a matter of time before Lee was killed off but I expected him to twist and turn in the breeze for a few more eps. Let's see how the murder investigation plays out.

And they killed Shrek! Man, I'm missing him already.

OC47151
10-09-2013, 12:29 PM
Let's see...the clubhouse blows up, perv corrections officers. Does this show get any better?!?

The issue of TV Guide with Elementary on the cover has an interesting short interview with Kurt Sutter in it. The crooked marshal storyline was supposed to go longer but Donal Logue is involved in the History Channel's Vikings TV show and needed to be in Europe filming so his SOA story arc was shortened. Would've liked to seen it go longer but the story threads will continue through this season.

Tycho
10-09-2013, 06:31 PM
No, I loved it when the retired Marshall was killed.

That needed to be done to show that you don't mess with the club.

Otto was a true soldier and Clay did the right thing for once.

I hope that the dead call-girl isn't used to twist Nero but I'm sure it will be.

Galen also needs to be killed. If Clay goes to Ireland, I wonder if he'll do it himself? Maybe because of the hits on the club or another one forthcoming, more personal.

Yeah, it was perverted, but Gemma has just a little decency left in her. She could have let the guards beat Clay.

Why did I feel sympathy for him? Oh, I guess because he got the shiv to Otto to take care of Lee.

OC47151
10-16-2013, 12:24 PM
'I've seen Smokey and the Bandit a thousand times.' What a great line, and for it to come from Tig was perfect!

Jax had a great speech at the big council meeting. Nice to see Bobby back in the fold, and now we know what he was up to.

OC47151
11-14-2013, 08:05 AM
Tara is painted into the corner. What's she gonna do?

Next week's ep looks INTENSE! The pivotal turning point? Have to tune in and see.

OC47151
11-15-2013, 10:11 AM
Three eps left this season.

Tycho
11-15-2013, 03:17 PM
I feel really bad for Jax.

He is trying so hard not to turn into Clay.

But Tara is turning into Gemma.

I like her, but she is making terrible choices and it's worse because she's not telling Jax what she's doing.

Tara has no right to be jealous of Jax sleeping with the escort girl if he thinks Tara is divorcing him.

If Tara has some secret agenda to remain linked romantically with Jax, then why is she divorcing him? If she has some kind of plan for her custody battle, Jax should be in on this.

It's her fault if he's straying now.

OC47151
11-15-2013, 03:27 PM
I was really surprised that Tara didn't just disappear after her attorney called and told her Jax knows everything. Jax would tie loose ends up in Charming with the Irish and then go look for Tara and the boys, but then it would've been a repeat of season 3 when the SOA went to Northern Ireland.

With the DA turning her down, I had the inkling that Tara might just go into the woods and off herself.

OC47151
11-20-2013, 08:18 AM
WOW, what an ep. That's all I'll say until everyone else can watch.

On a side note, my cable company switched over to Time Warner this summer. Since then, I've noticed more interruptions in recordings. Don't know why. There's no bad weather, but sometimes, like in the middle of a movie, or at the turning point in last night's ep, there's a break and it resumes as a new recording. Very frustrating.

Tycho
11-21-2013, 10:36 PM
Spoiler discussion follows..................


I was so glad to see Clay killed and that Jax did it. Clay was brave to face his fate. I'll give him that. But I think he believe Jax is his son, too.

I still think that's possible, as well.

Oh the irony.

Great episode taking down Galen, too.

The show seems like it could wrap up as a series now - or re-boot without restarting. I'd rather have the latter.

I love Sons of Anarchy.

OC47151
11-22-2013, 05:46 AM
Spoiler continued.....




It was inevitable that Clay would die, but just when was the question. In prison, out of prison, but it was gonna happen. I think several more major characters will not have happy endings before the series wraps up. It's destiny. Only one person has a chance of surviving the series, and it's Gemma but she'd be a broken woman.

BTW, Ron Perlman has a great interview at EW.com about his demise.

It will be interesting to see if there are repercussions with the Irish back in Northern Ireland, or they will buy the Clay-Galen shootout.

Tycho
11-22-2013, 07:22 PM
I'll have to think on Clay-Galen.

I just want to reinforce that it has to be Jax who shot Clay.

I also want to say that while I hate Gemma too, I think it'd be awesome if she survived and brought all of this down on her family!

Like the Walter White tragedy.

But I hadn't seen that idea coming. I thought the show was about Jax and Tara...

Really smart idea, OC! Very well-thought-out.

OC47151
12-02-2013, 07:02 AM
SOA is on for three hours Tuesday night. Set recording devices accordingly!

Tycho
12-02-2013, 03:10 PM
Thanks. I'll have to double-check that.

Are you sure it's not 90 minutes?

They show an encore presentation of the show immediately after it airs the first time.

I believe the show is actually 90 minutes.

But there could be a slow-down part where Juice goes on Pawn Stars to try and get cheap parts to fix his bike that Tara ran over.

Yeah - that's it. ;)

OC47151
12-04-2013, 07:23 AM
As late as 8 p.m., the schedule on the DVR said the finale was airing last night. Just have to wait a week. But next week's preview revealed nothing!

Thought-provoking ep. The Tara and Juice storylines were the most interesting aspects of the show. Juice, the tortured soul, and finally admitting to his deed. Thought he has having a heart attack, not OD'ing. And Tara. What's up? Are you hoping for a better deal from the feds or want to just disappear?

The weapons deal segment was interesting but I thought it was too cut-and-dried. Wrapped up too nicely. There has to be blowback from the Chinese and the Irish.

Bel-Cam Jos
12-04-2013, 06:52 PM
I have seen virtually no episodes ever, and I haven't scanned this thread, but how long has Bail Organa been part of the show? Since the start, or added after?

OC47151
12-05-2013, 06:32 AM
I have seen virtually no episodes ever, and I haven't scanned this thread, but how long has Bail Organa been part of the show? Since the start, or added after?

His character was in the special guest role capacity last season, and became a regular cast member this season. From al indications, he'll be back next season.

Tycho
12-05-2013, 05:52 PM
As late as 8 p.m., the schedule on the DVR said the finale was airing last night. Just have to wait a week. But next week's preview revealed nothing!

Thought-provoking ep. The Tara and Juice storylines were the most interesting aspects of the show. Juice, the tortured soul, and finally admitting to his deed. Thought he has having a heart attack, not OD'ing. And Tara. What's up? Are you hoping for a better deal from the feds or want to just disappear?

The weapons deal segment was interesting but I thought it was too cut-and-dried. Wrapped up too nicely. There has to be blowback from the Chinese and the Irish.

The weapons deal is definitely going to have blowback.

Jax is naïve if he thinks he can just get the club away from the Chinese and the Irish.

OK. The Irish might be realigned with the blacks.

The blacks fight the Mexicans. Nero is a Mexican (Jimmy Smits for Bel Cam). Now he knows Jax lied to him about the situation where the mother of the school-shooter boy was killed, who was also the one involved with Nero's gang-banger protégé in the Mexicans group.

If the Irish deal with the blacks and the blacks kill Mexicans, Nero might turn on Jax and hand him over to the Chinese for revenge so that the Chinese will deal with the Mexicans and then the Mexicans go back to being as well-armed as the blacks are through the Irish.

I don't think Jax's play was as smart as he thought it was.

Tara loves Jax. That's obvious. Yes, it's one of those strange circumstances where she loves her husband but wants a divorce for her sons' sake.

She should just get out of there. If she turned over evidence to the DA, the Club could get arrested and they'd be easier to kill in prison by the gang members on the inside. Clay burned the bridges with the Club and the White Supremists and Otto and other loyalists are long dead like Opie's dad Piney.

That theory that Gemma survives and brings down all she loves, rings out loud now. Nero is her boyfriend that kills her son (Jax) inadvertently, and possibly something happens to Tara and the kids since she can't stay away (probably). Or some stupid stunt with Tigg screwing up again happens.

I don't see a scenario were Gemma dies or has anyone wanting to kill her - or has blood on her hands to get locked up either.

Juice was always interesting, but when Sheriff Roosevelt was holding him being half black over his head and he stole the cocaine and killed the other Club Member and tried to hang himself from the tow truck chain - I liked that one better. Also, when he had to betray Clay with the gun that killed Pope so Clay would be sent to jail.

Perhaps Juice's conscience is catching up to him, but I'm not sure the show made me care all that much about the young mom he suffocated to death.

OC47151
12-06-2013, 12:31 PM
Interesting points.

If next season is truly the last season (still not known at this point) a lot of the circumstances of the last few episodes with the Irish, black, Chinese will be major plot points. I can't see the Irish dealing with the blacks and Chinese just because of the color of their skin. It's not intended to be prejudice but that's how it is and has been for hundreds of years.

Tara truly loves Jax, IMO. Maybe not the present form but the one she remembers from high school. For the boys to have a somewhat normal life, she needs to break from Jax, his family and the club.

When this series ends, I see Gemma standing all alone, a broken woman. No Jax, no grandsons, no Nero. Maybe Tigg, just 'cause he probably thinks he could get lucky. But Tigg could get lucky with a mop.

Rockmund Dunbar is appearing in a guest capacity as an FBI agent on the Mentalist now.

OC47151
12-11-2013, 07:19 AM
What an ep!

SPOILERS...









Thought the first hour was a little slow but the last 45 minutes made up for that. Shocked at Tara's death. Stabbed in the head six times! I watched the Anarchy After show, and Maggie Siff it was like something snapped in Gemma. How true! Don't think I can look at my kitchen sink the same way.

If Jax's moral compass was shaking, it's now spinning out of control with Tara's death. The aftermath next season will be interesting.

At the beginning of the ep, just based on the preview, I was wiling to bet Juice would die. And that idea was reinforced with Jax's kiss of death. The obvious answer for him is to go on the run, since the club can't trust him. Just gotta wait and see.

Think we might see a gang war between the Mayans and the Oakland crew. Killing Marx's people was a bad move. The Chinese and the Mayans sitting done for a meeting at the end was odd. Don't think we've seen the end of it but after last week's shooting it might have been too soon.

I've stated that at the end of the series Gemma will be standing alone. I stand corrected: I think Wayne will now stand alone. He's a true survivor.

Tycho
12-15-2013, 06:01 AM
Yes. I "liked" the above post by OC.

OK, the Mayans are Mexicans, as are the BizLats.

But the BizLats (Nero's guys) are more local than the nomad Mayan bikers.

So when Marx's black people (1-Niners) hit the Mexicans, Nero's BizLats will suffer as the blacks will just shoot any Mexicans, especially with the blacks having the Irish guns.

The Chinese? Hmmm.

OK - so with my thoughts above....

If the Chinese sit down with the Mayans, they could just propose that the Mayans let the BizLats take the fall-out from the blacks' being shot.

I don't see that Alvarez (Mayans) has to do anything the way things lie.

Now Juice knows the truth and he's half-black.


Here's my strategy for Jax trying to make things right with Nero and the BizLats:


Re-establish the truth the (Mexican) Mayans - a rival biker gang to Samcro - shot the blacks. The BizLats (Mexicans) were innocent of that. Put it back on Alvarez and use Juice to get them to listen. Juice owes Jax again and there's no one to protect him (if the 1-Niners would shoot the messenger). So why not send Juice to broker the peace for the BizLats? That'll make things right with Nero.

Jax is in business with Nero and his mom (who he doesn't know killed Tara) is tied to Nero (BizLat O.G.) Samcro has no love for the Mayans and Alvarez really.

So SoA clears the slate for the BizLats and sets the 1-Niners after the Mayans.

Maybe Gemma spills it to Nero, that Juice covered for her in Tara's death.

Then Nero (through with Gemma and business partners with Jax) spills the beans.

Maybe a BizLat connection in rehab gets Wendy after Gemma since everyone learns the truth about how Tara died. Wendy takes out Gemma - the price for getting her son back (theme is SONS of Anarchy) and Jax plans to finish Juice for the death of his wife (since Marx and the 1-Niners probably won't kill Juice.

Of course this is the characters' strategy, but I'm sure Kurt Sutter will write everything going wrong.

Maybe Gemma, furious with Nero, kills her last chance at love, perhaps because she learns Nero conspired to set Wendy against her?

Then the Mayans finish the aging Sons of Anarchy (Charming Original Redwood Chapter)?

Then Gemma still loses everything, and with Wendy in place to get custody, she takes the kids away from Gemma and runs the same way Tara had planned to?

My theory starts to get weak, but it's still possible. Feel free to shoot holes in it.

OC47151
01-18-2014, 07:26 AM
A side of Tig you normally don't see.

http://www.csnchicago.com/blackhawks/sons-anarchy-star-kim-coates-plays-shoot-puck?p=ya5nbcs&ocid=yahoo