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GNT
08-16-2001, 02:55 AM
Who will be in the corner of the AOTC card?


Maybe Jango Fett perhaps?


Thoughts?

Rollo Tomassi
08-16-2001, 03:31 AM
If they do go with the single name of just Star Wars, the image of the senior Fett would be a nice tie to the OT.

the master jedi
08-16-2001, 03:17 PM
I would want to see either Jango Fett or Anakin.

jedi master sal
08-16-2001, 04:43 PM
I'd like to see the Emperor.

12inch Lando
08-16-2001, 07:12 PM
Oooo... that's a toughie... I'd say a half Aniken, half Vader face.

Jargo
08-16-2001, 08:28 PM
I think it should just say 'STAR WARS' and have a nice picture of some stars. Keep it simple and let the brand name sell the figures if the figures don't do it themselves. There's no need for images with the brand name being so strong. I know there's a million people who think my opinion on the cardbacks is way off. But why do we need a big picture on the corner of the card? Isn't it the figures that we're buying and celebrating?:p

12inch Lando
08-16-2001, 08:52 PM
No... You're fired, your eminance...

the master jedi
08-16-2001, 09:32 PM
Half Anakin/half Vader would seem better for episode 3 figures.

jedibear
08-17-2001, 12:09 AM
Seeing as it was a supporting character with real visual flare for Episode One with Maul, it would be fitting to feature Jango with the burst of colors behind the figures being primarily blue.

I really hope that the cards feature the text "Episode II: Attack of the Clones". I think a generic "Star Wars"-only card will confuse the casual shoppers. Each movie deserves it's own card....c'mon Hasbro...don't be cheap! (and PLEASE don't use the design team that came up with that garish "Planet of the Apes" packaging...ugh!)

GNT
08-17-2001, 02:43 AM
Some good Ideas.

Ok:

Jango w/helmet on with Blue card

Palpatine or sidious with a purple or blue Card

Count Dooku with a red coloured card

or even

Mace windu on a light purple card


That is if they are on those cards to begin with before joining the POTJ line!

Thoughts?

evenflow
08-17-2001, 09:20 AM
Jango Fett, with Ankin.

JEDIpartner
08-17-2001, 11:42 AM
Anakin and Palpatine/Sidious (a la the POTJ cards)

Mike Troxell
08-17-2001, 04:13 PM
If current rumors are true (one card for the whole line), I think a good representation would be Darth Vader with Hayden's face reflected in the lenses. That would be pretty cool.

If it is going to be strictly an E2 card, I'd have to go with Anakin. Jango doesn't seem to be a huge part of the saga like Anakin.

Jedi Clint
08-17-2001, 04:24 PM
If being consistent is of any importance:

Vader for the POTF/OT figures.
Maul for TPM/E1 figures
Dooku for AOTC/E2 figures
Anakin for E3 figures.

The POTJ corner art is supposed to encompass the entire saga. They may just stick with that concept from now on. :confused:

Eternal Padawan
08-17-2001, 05:40 PM
How about a clonetrooper helmet? Putting an actors face on the card costs extra lisensing and royalty fees. That's why there's an animated Obi Wan on the POTJ cards. So no Anakin, Dooku or Mace Windu. Other than that, I wish to see a blue tinted card (much like the Galoob Ep 1 Micro Machines campaign) with Fett or a Clonetrooper in the corner.

Jargo has a good point about smaller packaging. Less packaging MIGHT lower the price and it would also allow more space per figure at Wal-Mart, TRU, etc. Instead of 6 pegs, they might have room for 10 or 12 in the same amount of space, and that means more figures to choose from. And more peg-warmers...(sigh)

BenQuad
08-20-2001, 09:55 AM
Gotta be Jar Jar in a heroic pose............... but, seriously, it could be Dooku for Ep2 - think about it, Christopher Lee is a very high-profile actor...... must be a marketing guy's dream.

El Chuxter
08-21-2001, 05:07 PM
Anakin. Either him or Bob Dole. Wouldn't you like to see Bob Dole's face on your E2 figures?

Jedi Clint
08-21-2001, 05:27 PM
Would that mean the action figures would share a marketing campaign with viagra? I can see it now....."Get a free sample with every toy!"

jedi master sal
08-21-2001, 06:13 PM
Has to be George W. (pronounced "dubya")

After all we all know he is the Emperor.

(think about it, an un assuming gov. rises to the level of pres.)

sounds vaguely familiar.

Jedi Clint
08-21-2001, 06:34 PM
Can we keep this from becoming a discussion of political ideologies?

jedi master sal
08-21-2001, 06:51 PM
Man, lighten up this was only meant as a joke. I don't even like George DUBYA!!!!

Besides he would look better on the Planet of the Apes packaging now that I think about it.

Jedi Clint
08-21-2001, 07:00 PM
I simply made a request that we keep a discussion about Star Wars action figure packaging from becoming insulting to either side of the political isle. I realize your post was intended as a joke.

jedi master sal
08-21-2001, 07:08 PM
I think a place that we recognize or a ship would be cool (just something to mull over) at least it is something different.

As far as a person my vote has got to be for SC Palpatine.

He seems to make the most sense right now since we haven't had a glimpse of the movie yet.

GNT
08-22-2001, 02:13 AM
Maybe Yoda on a green card?

2-1B
08-22-2001, 03:00 AM
Maybe Slave I ?

It ties to the classic trilogy, and also to the title of the new film . . .

2-1B
08-22-2001, 03:03 AM
Originally posted by Jedi Clint
Would that mean the action figures would share a marketing campaign with viagra? I can see it now....."Get a free sample with every toy!"

They could also share it with Pepsi !

Jedi Clint
08-22-2001, 02:35 PM
Little kids with free Pepsi coupons and viagra samples?!?!?! That sounds like the makings of some sort of "Children of the Corn" type flick.

I like the suggestion of a ship. That is something that we haven't seen yet. The Slave 1 would be appropriate in that case.

BenQuad
08-22-2001, 07:05 PM
Maybe Homer Simpson in action stance......... the kids would love it. :)

GNT
08-24-2001, 03:42 AM
Originally posted by BenQuad
Maybe Homer Simpson in action stance......... the kids would love it. :)

But the collectors would like it hate it :)

Magnolia-Fan
08-25-2001, 04:39 PM
I personally think the should go "retro" and do something like they did for the original SW, ESB, and ROTJ cards:

Logo on top, and a nice, large movie photo of the character covering the rest off the card.

However, I expect it will eend up being similar to the current Power of the Jedi cards, except with a Clone Trooper Head/Helmet in the corner, with Anakin in an action pose in front of it.

SunCrusher
08-25-2001, 06:53 PM
Why would it be Jango Fett? Even if he has a larger part in the next movie than boba fett in the original trilogy, he's not a major character to the Star Wars Saga. The only major characters are Anakin, Palpatine, Obi-Wan, and Yoda. The rest are supporting characters. I think they should keep Vader on the card, along with someone new. Episode 1 Obi-Wan doesn't belong on there anymore.

bigbarada
08-25-2001, 08:49 PM
You're saying Darth Maul was a major character?

BenQuad
08-25-2001, 09:16 PM
Maul Who?

Oh yeah the little guy that jumped around alot..... :)

SunCrusher
08-26-2001, 02:06 PM
Where did i mention Maul in my post?

bigbarada
08-26-2001, 02:18 PM
You implied that only major characters in the saga would have the honor of appearing on the corner of the card. I think you might have forgotten that One-Movie-Wonder-Darth-Maul was on the corner of Ep1 cards.

Hasbro explained that they "chose the most visually striking character to represent the movie."

Translation: "We saw how people were going ga-ga over Maul already so we decided to get while the gettin' was good.":D

SunCrusher
08-26-2001, 07:06 PM
I didn't mean it that way. Maul was on the card for Episode 1 because he was the main bad guy for episode 1. Jango Fett is not the main bad guy for episode 2, Count Dooku is.

BenQuad
08-26-2001, 07:13 PM
I didn't mean it that way. Maul was on the card for Episode 1 because he was the main bad guy for episode 1. Jango Fett is not the main bad guy for episode 2, Count Dooku is.

But is Dooku the real bad guy?

There is plenty we don't know about this movie, and Dooku is one of them. Could he be the beginnings of the rebellion or just same bad-*** dissolusioned jedi? - we don't really know.

SunCrusher
08-26-2001, 07:17 PM
According to what I know Dooku is Darth Tyranus in disguise, so maybe what I mean is Tyranus would be on the card.

BenQuad
08-26-2001, 07:33 PM
.......hmmm, think this disscussion ought to be heading for the spoiler section. ;)

Mandalorian Candidat
08-27-2001, 06:01 PM
Originally posted by Jedi Clint
Would that mean the action figures would share a marketing campaign with viagra? I can see it now....."Get a free sample with every toy!"

That would certainly solve the problem about what to do about the pack-in. And doesn't Bob Dole look a little like the Emperor anyways? They could put a mini-lightsaber in his right hand instead of that bic pen.

"Emperor Dole says clones are good for the Republic."

Jedi Clint
08-27-2001, 06:18 PM
Earlier.....

Caesar suggested, "They could also share it with Pepsi !"

I responded with:

"Little kids with free Pepsi coupons and viagra samples?!?!?! That sounds like the makings of some sort of "Children of the Corn" type flick."


Perhaps they should just include a box of sugar cubes......that would really keep kids coming back!

Seriously though.......whatever gives figures that fresh out of the bubble smell......I think they should bottle that and include one with every figure! ;) Even my wife enjoys smelling the figures I open.

BenQuad
08-27-2001, 06:25 PM
Seriously though.......whatever gives figures that fresh out of the bubble smell......I think they should bottle that and include one with every figure! Even my wife enjoys smelling the figures I open.

Hmmm.... kinky! Now if only I could have talked my ex into that, well......... :p

Lobito
09-04-2001, 06:17 PM
I guess Anakin would be in the corner, that is if they put a photo in the card.

GNT
09-07-2001, 03:19 AM
Originally posted by bigbarada
Hasbro explained that they "chose the most visually striking character to represent the movie."

Like Jango Fett :)

bigbarada
09-07-2001, 08:17 PM
I'd say it's a good bet that Jango will be on the corner of the card and hopefully the cards will follow his color scheme. Or maybe Hasbro will throw us all for a loop and completely redesign the cards with just a logo and a reference photo for each individual figure.

(SIGH) Well, I can dream can't I?

Jedi Clint
09-08-2001, 01:55 AM
BigB,

Magnolia-Fan suggested something similar earlier in the discussion, and the idea has really grown on me. I think the AOTC logo at the top with a background picture of a movie scene featuring the character in the bubble is an EXCELLENT idea. I hope they keep the format for the back of the POTJ cards though.

bigbarada
09-08-2001, 02:03 AM
I would definitely approve of a retro look to Ep2 packaging. Heck they could even go back to the black cards, which should stand out great among all the neon colors in the toy aisle nowadays.

As for the back of the card, I used to love the vintage cardbacks because you got to see every figure in the line up to that point. POTJ is a step in the right direction, but I want to see EVERY figure with the little "Collect all 57235!" brainwashing slogan for kids. That's why Ep1 toys became pegwarmers, Hasbro dropped the ball in the brainwashing department. Look at how well it worked with the vintage toys, we're all still collecting aren't we?;) :D :D

2-1B
09-08-2001, 02:23 AM
Originally posted by Jedi Clint
.......whatever gives figures that fresh out of the bubble smell......I think they should bottle that and include one with every figure!

You are so right! I loved that smell on the vintage figs when I was a kid. Many years later when I opened a Kenner-baggied Prune Face for my loose collection, one whiff took me back over a decade!

2-1B
09-08-2001, 02:25 AM
And while I'm at it, I'd like to suggest that they just soak the cards in it, so that a fan can smell them from aisles away.

That coupled with bigbarada's brainwashing scheme should move the figs right off the pegs!

Jedi Clint
09-08-2001, 03:11 PM
I'm tellin' ya Caesar, we ought to be workin' for Hasbro!

BigB, Magnolia-Fan,

Yous guys thinkin' something like this?

bigbarada
09-08-2001, 03:40 PM
Hey Jedi Clint, that's exactly what I'm talking about!! Very nice!:cool:

Magnolia-Fan
09-08-2001, 05:18 PM
Exactly!

I was just in the process of making a sample package myself when I saw yours.

Now, doesn't that make all of the packages since 1995 look...tacky?

JediCole
09-25-2001, 02:48 PM
So many issues, so little time! I would have to agree that it will probably be Jango Fett, regardless of the size of his role (which we really do not know just yet, kids). He is both striking and recognizeable (so the stupid people can say, "Why'd they put Boba Fett on there?"). My personal alternate choice would be Sideous because of the connection to the entire series and the distinctive look of his face under his heavy cloak.
Now, to the issue of character pictures on the cards. It should be apparant by now that Hasbro has developed an economy when it comes to representing the characters on their cards. The wonderful splashes of the classic cards gave way to the smaller images (front and back) of the POTF2 figures. Most recently I have finally determined the rationale for the "Jedi Force Files". They are a cheap way to get the character picture and NAME on the package while using essentally the same card for every single figure. Bearing that in mind, I think we can expect more of the same. The classic cards are more expensive to produce due to the necessity of a distinct card for each figure. Though the shape is the same, you have to have new graphics for every single card. The POTJ cards with associated "Force Files" cut out that particular concern, though arguably cost about the same due to the lame pamphlets that no one wants! Don't expect sweeping change back to the old cards, however.
I will point out in regard to the reverse of the cards that I find the old "class picture" format of the originals, with it's "Collect all ..." tagline to be quite appealing to this day. However, I would have to say one reason that Hasbro may have avoided this, especially by the time Episode I rolled around, was the lack of continued releases in the present line. Though there was some indication in the initial runs of POTF2 that it would be like the classic series in that all figures would always be a part of the line, it has been shown that those days are over, and judging from some of the threads and replies to threads here, most collectors don't want that anyway. For those of you who were not around back in those glory days, you could for example buy Ben (Obi-Wan) Kenobi on a Star Wars card in 1978, an Empire Strikes Back card in 1980, and a Return of the Jedi Card in 1983. All pretty much identical but for minor paint change variations. In other words, if it came out in the 70's, it was still around in the 80's with little variation. Even ANH Luke could be found on ROTJ cards, despite the lack of that costume in the final chapter. Power of the Force marked a unique turning point for (then) Kenner. Though you could buy ANH styled characters straight up through Jedi, they refused to release any new characters from ANH or TESB after those cards had become obsolete (Jedi). I wrote Kenner begging for more figures from the previous movies and was told, in a nutshell, that will never happen. Until the Luke in Stormtrooper Disguise from POTF. That marked a hopeful change toward more characters from previous films, but by then Star Wars' "fire had gone out of the (toy) Universe". I've heard reports that Kenner could not find retailer support at as little as one cent per figure. Back in those days no one was doing "bargain bins". Anyway, since Hasbro is not releasing figures like Momaw Nadon or Aunt Beru on POTJ cards you can pretty much expect that the next two movies will be treated to their own cards, at least for the first year.
Finally, there appears to be some confusion regarding the subject of this thread (at least on the part of some who have posted). I think it is fairly set in stone that the Episode II figures will have their own unique card, running side by side with their POTJ couterparts. This discussion is about the prospects for THAT line, not any changes in the future to the POTJ line, an entirely different entity.

GNT
09-27-2001, 04:46 AM
Very nice Jedi Clint :) Although if that R2 unit is to scale,then the card will be very long and probably be damaged in transport, Maybe smaller packaging

Jedi Clint
09-27-2001, 01:10 PM
Thanks GNT2,

I see what your saying. I think R2 is to scale with the card, because the Biker Scout that was originally in that pic was to scale with that R2. The bubble could be extended to increase the durability of the card.

puppetboy
09-28-2001, 06:51 PM
I would like to see Jango Fett's head with Anakin jumping like obiwan is on the power of the jedi cards, Also I would like the cards to be blue this time(I know there's a separate forum for this but i wanted to put all this together). Also I would also like it to say attack of the clones on to and not just episode 2.

GNT
09-29-2001, 01:00 AM
Originally posted by puppetboy
I would like to see Jango Fett's head with Anakin jumping like obiwan is on the power of the jedi cards, Also I would like the cards to be blue this time(I know there's a separate forum for this but i wanted to put all this together). Also I would also like it to say attack of the clones on to and not just episode 2.

Yes this time the card should say "Attact Of The Clones" instead of just "EPISODE 2",like the Episode 1 cards!

bigbarada
09-29-2001, 01:53 AM
Originally posted by GNT
Yes this time the card should say "Attact Of The Clones" instead of just "EPISODE 2",like the Episode 1 cards!

This would be great! So all of those carded figure collectors who hate the title will be in quite a conundrum. :D

GNT
09-29-2001, 02:40 AM
Originally posted by bigbarada


This would be great! So all of those carded figure collectors who hate the title will be in quite a conundrum. :D

And I guess they'll be foced to open their AOTC collection :)

Eternal Padawan
09-29-2001, 11:15 AM
I would like to see a Blue Color Scheme with a Clone Trooper Helmet in the corner (this is Attack of the CLONES, after all), but without a little animated Obi Wan or Anakin in front of it. Since individual backers will most likely NOT be produced, I think a simple Footstand Display with the characters name and/or likeness. I don't know if I would like smaller packaging because it would ruin the look of the entire line, but if they did, it would be a refreshing change of pace and I'd still buy them.

Tycho
10-02-2001, 01:41 PM
JEDICOLE:

Thank you for your great post. It was really refreshing to read something so extremely insightful and articulately well-put.

As to the size of the cards comments, I really don't get them. I don't think Hasbro has any plans to change the card size to make them smaller. And I like the current size.

Blue with Jango Fett gets my vote. Maybe Jango and Slave-One. However, a double-feature picture is not necessary in my opinion.

But to CORRECT SOME MISINFORMATION, I thought I read that Hasbro was looking to come out with a card for ALL their 2002 releases, no matter which film they'd be from. Thus stores would have easier times ordering case assortments, and while most of the 02 figures would be from Episode 2, any General Dadonna or Luke Skywalker Ultimate Jedi figure we might get next year (Vader defelecting Han's blaster bolts) will be released on the same packaging as the Episode 2 figures. (Thus people will think there are Ewoks in the second prequel if they don't know better).

I didn't say I like this - and I would prefer Attack of the Clones cards, blue with Jango - but Hasbro's people did tell me they were considering a generic card for ALL Star Wars products to be released on next year. Get ready for Ephont Mon from Attack of the Clones! Or get ready for another disappointment.

JediCole
10-02-2001, 02:25 PM
Tycho,
You make an interesting point in regard to ease of ordering for stores by virtue of the type of card. I've long contended that the Star Wars line's greatest strength (that it has the fanbase to stay on the shelves with no active film support) is at times its greatest weakness.
Many of you have probably seen thoughts similar to these in my other posts here and in the old forums, so I will try to be as concise as possible. The bottom line is that most retail stores (Toys R Us, Wal-Mart, Target) do not understand the dynamics of a perpetual line like Star Wars. This is why you can go into a Target or Wal-Mart (the department stores that most actively promote and shelve "by line") and find huge portions of their toy department devoted to (near the release dates) Atlantis, Planet of the Apes, Jurassic Park III, and to a lesser extent so far, Lord of the Rings. This is because these are the "flash in the pan" lines. The toys arrive in advance of the supporting film's release and are dead often before the film leaves the theatres. They hold out for a month or so and then eventually find themselves remanded to the Clearance Aisle.
Star Wars is a unique animal. It's always available. And constantly updated. However, especially in the department store scenario, the people in charge of reordering don't realize that Star Wars, though perpetual, is also ever-changing. So it seems that the poor hack charged with maintaining the toy aisles will look at pegs choked with Tusken Raiders, Elorrs Maddaks, Darth Mauls, and Choco-Wans and take that as "fully stocked shelves", not realizing that their corporate warehouses probably have cases of Emperor's Wrath Vaders and Shmis just waiting to be called into action.
From the standpoint of orders/reorders, distinctive cards are helpful, only to the extent that the retailer is aware of the nature of the game. That not withstanding, I still prefer the seperate card for each new film line initially, as it makes it easier to spot that line on pegs of POTJ. In the end, the generic "mixed" makes good sense, as Hasbro would run out of Empire figures before any others (due to Empire's status as the most character poor, principal and background, film of the series to date).

Tycho
10-09-2001, 02:08 PM
I better keep JediCole out of trouble: what he meant about Empire was it had the least wardrobe changes for the main cast, and the least amount of aliens etc. due to no cantina or Jabba's Palace types of scenes.

I caught that before the whole Episode 5 was the best debate would begin all over again. JediCole can make his own commentary (and does that well) but his remarks were not about ESB's plot or character development for the main cast.

And to Cole, I applogize for paraphrasing you, but you recognize what misinterpretation could do, what with all the Empire's defenders out there?

GNT
10-24-2001, 01:31 AM
Hands holding a ignited blue lightsaber!!!!!

ki-adi mundi's bro
10-25-2001, 07:33 PM
there is nobody on the corner of the card...just a lightsaber...got to starwars.com...

Beast
10-25-2001, 08:52 PM
Originally posted by Tycho
I better keep JediCole out of trouble: what he meant about Empire was it had the least wardrobe changes for the main cast, and the least amount of aliens etc. due to no cantina or Jabba's Palace types of scenes.

Not true, Empire had probably the most costume changes for the main cast actually. Here's a breakdown:

Luke:
Hoth Gear
Bacta Tank Diaper
Recovery Room Robe
Snowspeeder/X-wing Gear
Dagobah/Bespin Fatigues (with and without jacket)
Medical Frigate outfit

Leia:
Hoth Gear
Bespin Gown
Bespin Escape outfit (Hoth outfit without vest)
Medical Frigate gown (dress from ANH)

Han Solo:
Hoth Gear
Bespin outfit
Carbonite Chamber outfit (No jacket)
Han Solo in Carbonite (Hehehe, had to use it)

All in all not bad, of course the rest of the charecters never change clothes, other then Lando loosing in the smugglers outfit at the end, but still...quite a few costume changes and variations.

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks II

GNT
10-26-2001, 10:32 PM
Originally posted by ki-adi mundi's bro
there is nobody on the corner of the card...just a lightsaber...got to starwars.com...

Hands holding the lightsaber is the image of the card for EP2!

ki-adi mundi's bro
10-26-2001, 11:13 PM
okay... we get to see someones hands...woopee!

bigbarada
10-26-2001, 11:26 PM
Actually, if they used the same image as on the original ROTJ poster then those are George Lucas' hands! ooooooooooooooooooooooo:eek:

Yeah, I really don't care either....:rolleyes:

GNT
10-27-2001, 12:00 AM
Originally posted by ki-adi mundi's bro
okay... we get to see someones hands...woopee!

Very clean hands :)