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ANEEL
03-10-2009, 09:17 PM
What do you think?

LTBasker
03-10-2009, 09:26 PM
If Star Wars couldn't die from '83 to the mid-90's with only 3 movies and an iffy holiday special to go on, it's not going to die with 6 movies, an iffy holiday special and 2 cartoons. Even if the everlasting driving force of Star Wars to the public - Hasbro's merchandise - were to end, it would still live on quite well.

Beast
03-10-2009, 09:33 PM
Star Wars is like The Grimace. Nothing can kill it.

NerfTW
03-10-2009, 09:36 PM
No more than it's ever been. I don't think the Clone Wars cartoon is any worse than some of the **** that was put out in the 80's and 90's. Yeah, it's not as popular as in a movie year, but it wasn't from 1983-1997 either.

Mr. JabbaJohnL
03-10-2009, 11:38 PM
Do you still like it?

Yes?

Then it's not dead.

JediTricks
03-10-2009, 11:41 PM
Is it dead? Not hardly, it was the top-selling toy brand last year.

Darth Jax
03-11-2009, 08:48 AM
there is lots of kid interest currently due to the cartoon. i believe that many of the original star wars fans have reached a point with their collecting that they are moving away from the core toy line. the new star wars geeks are those that experienced the original trilogy in SE form and Ep 1 in the theaters. i have no facts for this, just an opinion

Kidhuman
03-11-2009, 09:10 AM
If it is, I didnt get invited to the funeral.

pbarnard
03-11-2009, 09:56 AM
Books always do well when released, considered a staple title now at Dark Horse Comics going on 20+ years., as mentioned,top selling toys, creates a lot of buzz whenever there is a video game release, on the net outside of porn and social networking creating a lot of hits when summed together, course the big asteroid crashing on earth might change all of this, but since that didn't happen today...

TeeEye7
03-11-2009, 10:08 AM
No, not if Beatrice Arthur has anything to say about it.

Bel-Cam Jos
03-11-2009, 07:18 PM
Will it make the news frequently? No. Will people still think of it? Sure. Huey Lewis sang it best:

"The heart of [Star Wars] is still beatin'
... with those girls dressed so scantily..."

(dirty mind, Huey, thinking of slave princesses and chained-up senators :p )

pbarnard
03-12-2009, 11:42 AM
I poked Star Wars with a stick, it moaned and rolled over. Therefore, not dead!

JediTricks
03-12-2009, 07:22 PM
OT figures are selling quite well, except for Yarna (no surprise) and a few others. Even the Legends rereleases sell very well. The interest is still there, not just for the cartoon or the newest movies.

Beast
03-12-2009, 07:44 PM
OT figures are selling quite well, except for Yarna (no surprise) and a few others. Even the Legends rereleases sell very well. The interest is still there, not just for the cartoon or the newest movies.
Hasbro: "Take that fanboys! All your "We want Yarna" and she sold like Rancor Keeper!"

Slicker
03-12-2009, 07:58 PM
Is it dead? Not hardly, it was the top-selling toy brand last year.That was exactly my thinking JT.

JediTricks
03-12-2009, 08:08 PM
Hasbro: "Take that fanboys! All your "We want Yarna" and she sold like Rancor Keeper!"
The figure sold fairly well for the first few iterations, but Hasbro kept producing it and never once let up on it unlike some of the other slow sellers in that wave. There was never any doubt that it wasn't going to be a hit figure a la Darth Vader. And I assure you, she sold far better than the Rancor Keeper.

Mr. JabbaJohnL
03-12-2009, 09:13 PM
The figure sold fairly well for the first few iterations, but Hasbro kept producing it and never once let up on it unlike some of the other slow sellers in that wave. There was never any doubt that it wasn't going to be a hit figure a la Darth Vader. And I assure you, she sold far better than the Rancor Keeper.
And we can see how well she sells against the new Malakili figure, too. :p I really don't know what made them think that was a good idea.

Beast
03-12-2009, 09:33 PM
And we can see how well she sells against the new Malakili figure, too. :p I really don't know what made them think that was a good idea.
Well... it's been a very long time since the last one.

So I can see why they're dusting him off again. What with the improved articulation.

Especially since when he was made the first time around, we had no Rancors.

Slicker
03-12-2009, 10:21 PM
Serious question.


There's a new Malakili out?

Beast
03-12-2009, 10:34 PM
Serious question.


There's a new Malakili out?
They're doing one in the upcoming Return of the Jedi assortment.

Slicker
03-12-2009, 10:47 PM
Ahhh...

Being serious again, that's pretty sweet. It's been a minute since we've had a new one and we're overdue to be honest.

plasticfetish
03-13-2009, 02:58 AM
If Star Wars is dead... can I have its shoes?

JediTricks
03-13-2009, 04:22 AM
And we can see how well she sells against the new Malakili figure, too. :p I really don't know what made them think that was a good idea."Satan, laughing, spreads his wings" - War Pigs, Black Sabbath. ;)

Jargo
03-13-2009, 07:21 PM
Hasbro: "Take that fanboys! All your "We want Yarna" and she sold like Rancor Keeper!"

I'm happy, I got the one I wanted and screw the pegwamers. mwuhahahahahah :twisted:

bigbarada
03-13-2009, 07:40 PM
I don't believe Star Wars is dead, it's just in the process of evolving into a primarily television based medium.

Kids who were too young to even watch Ep3 in the theaters, and remember it, seem to be the main ones getting into the Clone Wars cartoon. So it's going to be interesting in a few years when we have an entire generation of teenage Star Wars fans whose first experience with Star Wars is as a TV show first, then a bunch of movies on Blu-Ray (I'm sure the DVD format will be dead by then).

El Chuxter
03-17-2009, 08:25 PM
If not, it should take a bath. It kinda stinks right now. lol

Bel-Cam Jos
03-18-2009, 07:16 PM
The period from 1986-90 weeded out the bandwagoners, and that had only a brief 1991-92 resurgence, then another weaning from 1993-95, until the Hasbro toys emerged. I see this as another lean time, where the return of Episodes VII-IX in 2017-2023 will bring it back once again. :rolleyes:

CaptainSolo1138
03-18-2009, 09:13 PM
If not, it should take a bath. It kinda stinks right now. lol
Nice.

Its certainly not dead, but it is switching fanbases. I have little or no interest in SW right now outside of catching Clone Wars on occasion. However, I always hear the kids at school, especially the middle schoolers, talking about SW, Clone Wars in particular.

On the one hand, I get the same feeling as when "your" band becomes popular and everyone else takes to liking them (see: Bloodhound Gang, "The Bad Touch"). More so, though, I feel less guilty about "leaving" SW knowing that someone is there to pick up the torch I long ago dropped.

Is SW dead? Probably not.

Is it on its last legs for me? Definitely. I only check for new figures out of habit. I saw the Han Stormie the other day (favorite character/favorite outfit), and I didn't even seriously consider buying it (especially when I saw the $8 sticker on it).

FLORIDA COLLECTOR X
03-18-2009, 10:18 PM
Unless lucas can figure a way to put star wars on everyone's cell phones, no one is going to even notice it. Actually....I saw where your contact lenses will within 3 years from now conect you to your phone and the internet with all heads up displays. We are becoming the BORG. OH boy!! we will all be able to walk around connceted to the internet at all times....or should I say the collective.

bigbarada
03-18-2009, 10:26 PM
Nice.

Its certainly not dead, but it is switching fanbases. I have little or no interest in SW right now outside of catching Clone Wars on occasion. However, I always hear the kids at school, especially the middle schoolers, talking about SW, Clone Wars in particular.


Yep, Star Wars is HUGE right now with boys 12 and under because of the Clone Wars cartoon. My friend's son is ten and that's all he talks about.

Mad Slanted Powers
03-18-2009, 10:26 PM
Unless lucas can figure a way to put star wars on everyone's cell phones, no one is going to even notice it. Actually....I saw where your contact lenses will within 3 years from now conect you to your phone and the internet with all heads up displays. We are becoming the BORG. OH boy!! we will all be able to walk around connceted to the internet at all times....or should I say the collective.

I did hear a story today about some guy who lost a finger and had it replaced with an artificial one with a USB drive in it or something like that. Actually, here is a link (http://www.pcworld.com/article/161460/geek_replaces_lost_finger_with_2gb_usb_finger.html ).

Blue2th
03-19-2009, 09:45 AM
Clone Wars has kept Star Wars alive. Mostly like was said, for kids.
As an adult (well at least my body is) comparing it to the cartoons of yesterday, it's got all the adventure, and conflict of the shows that I loved as a kid, but now people die, there is more intelligent story telling and plot twists, better detailed spaceships and vehicles. Cool space battles. I've gotten used to the "Thunderbirds" puppet style of the characters, I even like this Anakin better than the live-action one.
Clone Wars has it all for the kid in me.

By the time these kids get older they will have been hooked into Star Wars, and the Live-Action series will cater to theirs and ours more adult story telling.

Didn't Rick McCallum say the series will be more serious "Battlestar Galactica" style?
That may have changed a bit, but tastes have changed also. No longer does the general public put up with stupid story telling as much and cheezy effects.

Darth Metalmute
03-19-2009, 09:53 AM
I'm with you Blue2th,
I enjoy the clone wars series alot.
Anakin is what we were promised he was supposed to be in the movies.
The relationship between him and Obi-Wan is what I expected it to be, wanted it to be in the movies
I even enjoy the goofy driod banter.

DarkArtist
03-19-2009, 05:59 PM
i think Star Wars has an endearing quality that will last for generations to come. I mean it's the classic story of good vs evil that appeals to all people young and old.

pbarnard
03-19-2009, 06:03 PM
Plus on every format, they'll be able to release the SE trailer with the X-Wing blasting out of the ray tubed TV!

*pokes SW with stick again* Yep, still alive!

Snowtrooper
03-19-2009, 06:39 PM
Its modern mythology and will probably never die. It will always be around in some form or another, much like classic Greek & Roman mythology.

Bel-Cam Jos
03-19-2009, 08:49 PM
Its modern mythology and will probably never die. It will always be around in some form or another, much like classic Greek & Roman mythology.Interesting metaphor: like antique architecture, it might look ruined on the outside over time, but it is strong and reliant, full of tales and legends.


I saw the Han Stormie the other day (favorite character/favorite outfit), and I didn't even seriously consider buying it (especially when I saw the $8 sticker on it).I'd have bought it here, if I'd seen it. Our price is much less: only $7.99 at retail here. :rolleyes:

CaptainSolo1138
03-19-2009, 10:25 PM
I'd have bought it here, if I'd seen it. Our price is much less: only $7.99 at retail here. :rolleyes:
If you need one, I can grab one of the dozen at the WM around the corner.

Jargo
03-20-2009, 09:48 AM
as with all mythology. in the passing on of anecdotal evidence it appears more exciting and dazzling than it actually was.

Mad Slanted Powers
03-20-2009, 05:16 PM
In 2000 years, people will wonder if the events of Star Wars were real.

Jargo
03-21-2009, 08:40 PM
Only if they're really dumb people.

sith_killer_99
03-21-2009, 08:58 PM
Well, in 150,000 years people will wonder if the events in Battlestar Galactica were real.:p

Bel-Cam Jos
03-22-2009, 09:12 AM
Well, we all were taught in school that the Minoan civilization used to enjoy bull leaping, because archeologists saw paintings of it on the walls of excavated ruins. What if those frescoes were just pre-electricity TV shows?

Mad Slanted Powers
03-22-2009, 10:29 AM
Well, we all were taught in school that the Minoan civilization used to enjoy bull leaping, because archeologists saw paintings of it on the walls of excavated ruins. What if those frescoes were just pre-electricity TV shows?
Indeed, and was Agamemnon a real person, or just someone that appeared in a lot of stories?

bigbarada
03-22-2009, 11:57 AM
If you really study Greek mythology and pay attention to all the "continuity gaffs" and alternate versions of characters, you'd think it was all written by DC Comics. :D

Anyways, I don't think anyone will mistake Star Wars for reality in 2000 years. History is just too well documented these days. Also if you look at all the mediums that Star Wars is recorded on, it's very "perishable." Novels, comic books and magazines, will likely only last 100 years or so (considering the cheap materials they are printed on). Videocassettes are already showing signs of deterioration and DVDs will only last 20 years at the most (although 5 years is more likely). Even plastic toys will only last a few centuries at most. So, unless someone decides to go chisel the story onto some stones somewhere, then Star Wars will likely vanish into thin air long before it's 2000th anniversary.

Mad Slanted Powers
03-22-2009, 01:01 PM
If you really study Greek mythology and pay attention to all the "continuity gaffs" and alternate versions of characters, you'd think it was all written by DC Comics. :D

Anyways, I don't think anyone will mistake Star Wars for reality in 2000 years. History is just too well documented these days. Also if you look at all the mediums that Star Wars is recorded on, it's very "perishable." Novels, comic books and magazines, will likely only last 100 years or so (considering the cheap materials they are printed on). Videocassettes are already showing signs of deterioration and DVDs will only last 20 years at the most (although 5 years is more likely). Even plastic toys will only last a few centuries at most. So, unless someone decides to go chisel the story onto some stones somewhere, then Star Wars will likely vanish into thin air long before it's 2000th anniversary.Last night I caught an episode of Buck Rogers. The episode centered around a popular music group called Andromeda. When Buck compared their popularity to the Beatles, Wilma said, "the who?". Then Buck said, "not The Who, the Beatles."

Mad Slanted Powers
03-22-2009, 01:43 PM
Dang, I guess there will still be spam in 2,000 years.

TeeEye7
03-22-2009, 03:50 PM
Dang, I guess there will still be spam in 2,000 years.

A tip o' the hat to the mods who eradicated the spammers of late. The post to which MSP refers is *poof!* gone in short order! :thumbsup:

Kudos to SSG's SWAT Team!

Mad Slanted Powers
03-22-2009, 05:51 PM
A tip o' the hat to the mods who eradicated the spammers of late. The post to which MSP refers is *poof!* gone in short order! :thumbsup:

Kudos to SSG's SWAT Team!

And thanks for that post, otherwise what I said would now seem like a total non-sequitur.

JediTricks
03-22-2009, 11:53 PM
I did hear a story today about some guy who lost a finger and had it replaced with an artificial one with a USB drive in it or something like that. Actually, here is a link (http://www.pcworld.com/article/161460/geek_replaces_lost_finger_with_2gb_usb_finger.html ).I'm sorry, but that is friggin' RAD! It's removable, which makes sense, because who wants to hold their hand next to a PC for long stints? And I like the planned upgrades. First prize! First prize! First Prize! (a la Lisa Simpson taunting her brother)


Anyway, Star Wars has a universal mythological appeal that can last a lot longer than any of us, especially as each new generation gets a chance to discover it for themselves. I just hope the OT isn't lost in a sea of other stuff, since that's Star Wars' core.


You are welcome for the SPAM SWATTING, that was JMG and your's truly.

TeeEye7
03-23-2009, 12:59 AM
You are welcome for the SPAM SWATTING, that was JMG and your's truly.

I should hit the guys up at work for some cammies so that you and JMG can be official, JT! ;)