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Darth Duranium
07-06-2009, 04:20 PM
Plus I like the idea of the pearlescent paint on the Star Fleet ships. Didn't really know about that or remember till DW mentioned it earlier. That possibly makes them more attractive kinda like JL White Lightnings.

The pearlescent effect (sounds like a porn film :D) is quite mild... looking at my shelf, I really can't detect any significant difference from a few feet away. The JL WL pearlescent effect is much stronger, but the Konamis do have it.

Yeah, Nooker could let fly right here.... as good a place as any.:yes:

JediTricks
07-06-2009, 05:21 PM
It's a shame Hot Wheels can't even put as much detail on a larger ship.Detail is a funny thing. If you scale up a JL ship, you won't find as much detail as you think, and it won't be very sharp. JL got a lot of work done with paint masks but very little in sculpting. HW is going the other way, relying on sculpts over paint, and it's a foolish move, but it is Mattel's MO, they will probably release some super-expensive ulimtate editions with slightly more paint and a fancy box soon.

nooker21
07-06-2009, 06:16 PM
Well, I've got two F-Toys TOS Enterprises that would love to go somewhere else, so PM me if you've got doubles of anything else to trade. I'm open to Futuras and Konamis as well...

Blue2th
07-06-2009, 11:01 PM
Detail is a funny thing. If you scale up a JL ship, you won't find as much detail as you think, and it won't be very sharp. JL got a lot of work done with paint masks but very little in sculpting. HW is going the other way, relying on sculpts over paint, and it's a foolish move, but it is Mattel's MO, they will probably release some super-expensive ulimtate editions with slightly more paint and a fancy box soon.

It is the paint detail that makes the JL so nice, as the sculpting detail is nothing special.
It does help I think that the JL D's are slightly larger than the other SSSTS's.

That would make all the difference in the Hot Wheels ships. Maybe they'll stick to white instead of the funky green of the Corgi D.
They're going to have to do a whole lot of tampos on the D, it just has so many windows.

Darth Duranium
07-07-2009, 12:45 AM
HW is going the other way, relying on sculpts over paint, and it's a foolish move, but it is Mattel's MO, they will probably release some super-expensive ulimtate editions with slightly more paint and a fancy box soon.

Hey Nostradamus :).... I posted a pic of a HW SDCC proto a while back... and yes indeed, it comes in a silly case. It's on the HW website.



Maybe they'll stick to white instead of the funky green of the Corgi.

I still haven't seen any of the HWs in person. I wish Corgi had done the D in white with all that aztecing detail... it's quite amazing.

I just ordered the F-Toys Mirror Darkly NX-01... the only one I skipped... only $8.00 from a US seller!

Spectre o'the Phaser
07-08-2009, 12:23 PM
I think it's the popularity of the new flick that's driving the market... those JL AGT Ents were dirt-cheap last year, along with most Furutas. Major drag for those trying to catch up...:mad:


Yep, that would be me. Started collecting right after the movie. I guess I'm not the only one. In this short time my pocket book has fallen victim as follows (and I love to rate stuff... so best of 5 stars):



Phoenix (Fur) ****
NX-01 (FT) ****
TOS 1701 (FT) *** (JL) ***
Refit 1701 (FT) ***
1701-B (Kon) ***
1701-C (Fur) ****
1701-D (FT) ****
Future 1701-D (Fur) *
Reliant (JL) ****
Farragut (Fur) Had to do major trimming to get the parts to fit OK on this one. Not as good a sculpt as most Furutas) **
TOS Klingon D7 BC (JL) ***
Romulan WB (Fur) ****
TOS Romulan BoP (JL) ***
Maquis Raider (MM) ***
Bajoran Raider (MM) ***

Also just got the Bandai 1701 and 1701-E for $90 and $79 respectively, including s/h. Still "need" the NX-01!

Ah, it's only money. :sad:

Darth Duranium
07-08-2009, 12:56 PM
Yep, that would be me. Started collecting right after the movie. I guess I'm not the only one. In this short time my pocket book has fallen victim as follows (and I love to rate stuff... so best of 5 stars):



Phoenix (Fur) ****
NX-01 (FT) ****
TOS 1701 (FT) *** (JL) ***
Refit 1701 (FT) ***
1701-B (Kon) ***
1701-C (Fur) ****
1701-D (FT) ****
Future 1701-D (Fur) *
Reliant (JL) ****
Farragut (Fur) Had to do major trimming to get the parts to fit OK on this one. Not as good a sculpt as most Furutas) **
TOS Klingon D7 BC (JL) ***
Romulan WB (Fur) ****
TOS Romulan BoP (JL) ***
Maquis Raider (MM) ***
Bajoran Raider (MM) ***

Also just got the Bandai 1701 and 1701-E for $90 and $79 respectively, including s/h. Still "need" the NX-01!

Ah, it's only money. :sad:

Wow... considering that the movie's only been out for a couple of months, that's quite a collection you've amassed. :thumbsup:

They are fun to collect... money's less fun when left in the wallet.

Hey, no small-sized Ent E yet? Whatsamatta wid dat one? :D

The Farragut hasn't been done very well by anyone yet, IMO. The Romando, MM, and Furuta are all sketchy.

Blue2th
07-08-2009, 05:03 PM
So I got my F-Toys today.
My favorites of the bunch are the NX-01 and the Mirror NX-01. Just like the photos they are amazing in detail.

The others are ok. I can see though that this so far is my favorite TOS Enterprise. The deflector dish is the best like you said DT, and the candy colored red nacelle engines really look good. I can live with the assemble areas where the struts meet the engineering hull.

The Defiant is ok but half the size of the Furuta, I didn't even bother with the cloaked one.

The Enterprise D is large! Just about the size of the Hot Wheels one. Sharp lines and sculpting but where the stand connects kinda kills it for me, plus even though it's just paint details the JL's are the shizzle, plus separating saucer sections.

The Refit is ok, slightly larger than the JL, but though detail is sharper and better on the saucer section of the F-Toys, the engineering and nacelle sections are as good if not better on the JL, with better paint details, plus where the struts meet the hull is a minus on the F-Toys Refit, so though close, the JL wins by a nose IMO.

I could have gotten just 3 of these ships and been happy, but I had to see for myself "What are the best Star Trek small scale ships?"

Ok, it's on to the next set of Konami's as soon as I can get enough scratch.

Update: I just bought a set of Konami's on ebay. I was watching a set for 34.00, and someone just bought them (arrg!) there was only one more set (without the BOP) on there for 39.00, so I bought them. Shipping was 20.00 ouch! for that it should be transported on a Concorde today, and dropped off at my door tonight!

Darth Duranium
07-10-2009, 12:12 AM
Nice, Blue :thumbsup:

Agreed on everything except the refit :D. I like the FT slightly better.

Yup... the D is huge and slim... real shame about the strut.

The Konamis are great... nice size and stands... should look good with your WL. I think you're gettin' hosed on the shipping (from JP?) but those ships will go up in value... in fact, they already have!

Can't believe the price of the BoP...

Spectre o'the Phaser
07-10-2009, 12:41 AM
Which do you guys consider to be the best Klingon BoP, the Konami or the Furuta? The cheapest Konami is about $40; from online pics I would say the Konami looks better. The price is beyond my compehension, though.

Blue2th
07-10-2009, 12:48 AM
Yeah it's getting slim pickins for the sets on ebay, and the prices keep going up. I could have bought them individually, but would end up spending near the same amount and there are too many in the set I really want like the Klingon BC (which is very pricey now) the B (which I believe everyone agrees is the better of the two made) and the E (a tie with the Furuta pretty much)

So I take it there's a Refit and an Ent A in there? Or is that a misprint on the box? I need to go back in the thread to see reviews on those.

Another Reliant, oh well. :rolleyes:

Yup, unless I get the set in the next few days to justify that shipping, he won't be getting many yellow stars for "reasonable shipping cost"

Now if I could just get MM set 2 and 3. Seems a lot of people are unloading them now, but still expensive.

Spectre o'the Phaser
07-10-2009, 01:21 AM
Yeah it's getting slim pickins for the sets on ebay, and the prices keep going up. I could have bought them individually, but would end up spending near the same amount and there are too many in the set I really want like the Klingon BC (which is very pricey now) the B (which I believe everyone agrees is the better of the two made) and the E (a tie with the Furuta pretty much)

So I take it there's a Refit and an Ent A in there? Or is that a misprint on the box? I need to go back in the thread to see reviews on those.

Another Reliant, oh well. :rolleyes:

Yup, unless I get the set in the next few days to justify that shipping, he won't be getting many yellow stars for "reasonable shipping cost"

Now if I could just get MM set 2 and 3. Seems a lot of people are unloading them now, but still expensive.

You must be referring to that Malaysian dude? :D
http://cgi.ebay.com/Konami-Star-Trek-Vol-1-Set-of-6-pcs-figures_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ65Q3a12Q7c66Q3 a2Q7c39Q3a1Q7c72Q3a1240Q7c293Q3a1Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trk sidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem563341fb0aQQitemZ37 0227149578QQptZLHQ5fDefaultDomainQ5f0QQsalenotsupp orted

And yeah, think there's a refit AND a 1701-A.

The only Konamis that I think I want are the 1701-B (which I have), the -E, and the Klingons BC and BoP. I already have the F-Toys TOS 1701 and the refit and the JL Reliant; which I'm happy with (although, someday I wouldn't mind snatching up a JL refit).

Also, I don't know that I want a 1701-A when I have a refit. Having a complete set of a release just isn't that important to me.

So, even if I didn't already have the B, I couldn's see paying $45 + $20 for that set of 6—which does not include the BoP—from that cat in Malaysia. Had the set included the BoP it would be a different story, of course.

So, you all think the Konami is the superior BoP?

Blue2th
07-10-2009, 01:48 AM
You must be referring to that Malaysian dude? :D
http://cgi.ebay.com/Konami-Star-Trek-Vol-1-Set-of-6-pcs-figures_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ65Q3a12Q7c66Q3 a2Q7c39Q3a1Q7c72Q3a1240Q7c293Q3a1Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trk sidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem563341fb0aQQitemZ37 0227149578QQptZLHQ5fDefaultDomainQ5f0QQsalenotsupp orted

And yeah, think there's a refit AND a 1701-A.

The only Konamis that I think I want are the 1701-B (which I have), the -E, and the Klingons BC and BoP. I already have the F-Toys TOS 1701 and the refit and the JL Reliant; which I'm happy with (although, someday I wouldn't mind snatching up a JL refit).

Also, I don't know that I want a 1701-A when I have a refit. Having a complete set of a release just isn't that important to me.

So, even if I didn't already have the B, I couldn's see paying $45 + $20 for that set of 6—which does not include the BoP—from that cat in Malaysia. Had the set included the BoP it would be a different story, of course.

So, you all think the Konami is the superior BoP?
Yup that's the guy. He's got the set with the BOP in it, but way too much for me.
He started them out at $34, then $39 (the one I bought) and now $44.
What you gonna do when you want them huh?

I think the only BOP JL did was the TOS Romulan saucer with nacelles one. So really the only one that's reasonable is the Furuta, which I have, and from the looks of it is as good as Konami's "secret" BOP.

The Corgi one now that's the one to get, but is HW size. Well worth having nonetheless.

Spectre o'the Phaser
07-10-2009, 02:40 AM
Yup that's the guy. He's got the set with the BOP in it, but way too much for me.
He started them out at $34, then $39 (the one I bought) and now $44.
What you gonna do when you want them huh?

Well, I've been spending $$ on Trek ships like a drunken sailor, so I'm gonna try to lay low in the tall grass and stalk the Konamis for a possible sneak attack on a low priced BoP or BC if one ever comes along. But I can justify some of my spending 'cause I've been selling some things on Ebay to make up for it quite a bit.


I think the only BOP JL did was the TOS Romulan saucer with nacelles one. So really the only one that's reasonable is the Furuta, which I have, and from the looks of it is as good as Konami's "secret" BOP.

Yeah, the JL Romulan BoP is not bad at all, for the ship that it is. And I may have to settle for a Furuta, then, if no 'bargain' Konami presents itself.


The Corgi one now that's the one to get, but is HW size. Well worth having nonetheless.

Well, depending on what you mean by comparable size. At 7" long (110m actual) the BoP might be too big even for HW Ents when you consider that it's about half the size of the Ent. in real terms. So, in such case it might look in actual proportion more with the large ships: the 10" Bandai 1701 (305m) and the NX-01 for example—or even the AA Ents at about 12" long?

Blue2th
07-10-2009, 10:33 AM
Yup, been unloading quite a lot myself. Stuff I have no interest in anymore, like all my ST Playmates figures, it justifies my purchases. Then I can do another round if I need to.

The Furuta BOP is pretty nice, but the Konami looks to have a few more details. Not sure which one is the better one.

I used to have the site that had comparison sizes of the all the starships to each other, but I think I lost it when my HD crashed a while back. Then you would know for sure of the relative scale, but yeah it looks good in relation to the AA ships for sure. It's probably close. Then again even Star Trek took liberties with the scales on film from what I've heard.

Found something on that at Ex Astris Scientia on the BOP conundrum: http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/bop-size.htm

Darth Duranium
07-10-2009, 01:18 PM
From these pics, I'd say that the Furuta's (unbagged) slightly better than the Konami BoP... better paint apps and the wings seem more accurate to me.

But they are so seriously similar that I can't bring myself to fork out $40 on one... so like Spec, I'll stalk this prey from afar.

BTW, there's a Romando K-BoP that's about a third smaller than the Furuta & Konami... quite nice, too. Might be better for some scales...
There's also the Strike Force BoP (huge) and I've got a maquette one that's slightly larger than the Corgi... plus there's the Konami-sized Hallmark too.

Speaking of Hallmark, the Klingon Battlecruiser comes out this weekend. I will be gettin' it for sure.

The Konami set does indeed come with the refit and A... almost Hallmark sized. Aside from the "A" on the ship and stand, they're identical.

Spectre o'the Phaser
07-10-2009, 04:11 PM
From these pics, I'd say that the Furuta's (unbagged) slightly better than the Konami BoP... better paint apps and the wings seem more accurate to me.

But they are so seriously similar that I can't bring myself to fork out $40 on one... so like Spec, I'll stalk this prey from afar.


The Konami appears to have more and better detail, at least on the wings, that I can see from this pic, DT, but there's more color on the Furuta. It's close. thanks for the pic. And on the right I assume is the Romando? It looks rather odd....

And speaking of *$#%$$$$$$$$$$$$$* expensive, the JL 1701-D is nowhere to be seen and the JL future D seems to be available for about 50 clams minimum. Ouch! :hurt:

Guess I'll have to settle for the F-toys D. And the Furuta future D for now... bleh!

Alternately, the 8" Corgi D looks pretty dang good, at least in pics; albeit a bit too big (and expensive, too). But once again, next to the F-Toys Constitutions the Corgi D might look pretty much right in proportion...643m to the Constitutions' 300m+/-.

Anybody have the Corgi D, and can comment on it?

Darth Duranium
07-10-2009, 04:45 PM
OMFG, Spec... those JL's have gone up by a factor of 10... you could get 'em for $5 each last year. I can see why you're passing... it ain't right.

Nope... the pics are just the Konami and Furuta. The Konami's in a bag in both pics... pics are from eBay. The moulding around the engines is nicer on the Konami but the paint's a bit "meh". Extremely tough call on this one... and it drives me nuts not having the full set. But $40? No way, Jose.

I took a few shots of my Corgi D (my only "new" Corgi) so you can get a sense of its scale... it is about twice the length of the F-Toys TOS Ent. That was my thinking too, Spec. If Corgi had done the E, I would have been ecstatic.

It is a very solid, heavy ship... a little overdone on the paint, for a change... but it's very sleek and nicely put together. No seams... huge saucer section.... very nice. The detailed paint apps really help make it look much larger than it is.

I guess the HW is considerably smaller... Blue likened it to F-Toys size. Still looking...

Criticisms? The base colour of the ship... too blue/grey, IMO. They didn't paint the impulse drives red, and the shuttle bays are inaccurate (same size) and underwhelming.

I do like it a lot, though... (looks sweet next to the 2nd HM TOS Ent on a table) ...really wished we'd seen the Corgi Defiant (DS9) and Voyager before they got canned.

Still, I think it's a pretty serious rival to the big ones, in terms of accuracy.

Spectre o'the Phaser
07-10-2009, 05:12 PM
OMFG, Spec... those JL's have gone up by a factor of 10... you could get 'em for $5 each last year. I can see why you're passing...

D'oh!!! Boy, did I miss the boat!


I took a few shots of my Corgi D (my only "new" Corgi) so you can get a sense of its scale... it is about twice the length of the F-Toys TOS Ent.

It is a very solid, heavy ship... a little overdone on the paint, for a change... but it's very sleek and nicely put together. No seams... huge saucer section.... very nice. The detailed paint apps really help make it look much larger than it is.

Criticisms? The base colour of the ship... too blue/grey, IMO. They didn't paint the impulse drives red, and the shuttle bays are inaccurate (same size) and underwhelming. I really wished we'd seen the Corgi Defiant (DS9) and Voyager before they got canned.

Still, I think it's a pretty serious rival to the big ones, in terms of accuracy.

Thanks again for the pics! Very helpful to see scale. I didn't realize that the JL D is actually smaller than the F-Toys'! That kinda sucks.

I'm torn; because I like the idea of scale—the C, D and E being considerably bigger than the Constitutions—but it's inherently impossible to stay faithful to that standard of true scale with all-small scale ships, and at the same time have the best quality makes of each model. :( But to have the F-Toys Constitutions right next on the shelf to the Sovereigns and Galaxies of the F-Toys, Konamis and Furutas just looks a bit funny and bothers me. Maybe I oughtta separate them...

But that Corgi D looks great, even though the color looks off! It still puts to shame that new AA colossus that so disappoints!

clone157
07-11-2009, 01:06 AM
Actually guys, the HW Ent-D is bigger than the F-toys. By about a scale factor of give or take 10-15%. I cant believe people haven't seen the HW Ent-D, all the Targets in my area are lousy with them. I do want to point out that the HW Refit is almost the right scale with the Konami Reliant, based on bridge size. I'm still waiting to see the new Ent from HW. So the question I put forth is: which ships (I'm really only concered with the Federation stuff) are in scale with each other? My wife won't let me print the page from merzo.net and my computer is not where I have my fleet. Spec, I feel for you. I, too, just keep getting more and more new ships and destroying my paypal account. I have to separate my fleet into different eras. Enterprise/TOS; Kirk and crew movies; TNG\DS9; Voyager\ First Contact eras. Circle, oval, ellipse. Only way I stay sane, besides separating my clones out. BTW, my son says "hello",
by kissing my monitor, to all.

Blue2th
07-11-2009, 01:51 AM
The HW D is smaller than the Corgi but a little bigger than the F-Toys, now I'm just eye-ballin' it as I see them every time I go to Target, but won't buy one.

Why can't they just agree to one scale and it would make things a lot easier. :cross-eye

Spectre o'the Phaser
07-11-2009, 03:08 AM
Actually guys, the HW Ent-D is bigger than the F-toys. By about a scale factor of give or take 10-15%. I cant believe people haven't seen the HW Ent-D, all the Targets in my area are lousy with them. I do want to point out that the HW Refit is almost the right scale with the Konami Reliant, based on bridge size. I'm still waiting to see the new Ent from HW. So the question I put forth is: which ships (I'm really only concered with the Federation stuff) are in scale with each other? My wife won't let me print the page from merzo.net and my computer is not where I have my fleet. Spec, I feel for you. I, too, just keep getting more and more new ships and destroying my paypal account. I have to separate my fleet into different eras. Enterprise/TOS; Kirk and crew movies; TNG\DS9; Voyager\ First Contact eras. Circle, oval, ellipse. Only way I stay sane, besides separating my clones out. BTW, my son says "hello",
by kissing my monitor, to all.

Yeah, it can be a bit frustrating. I've made my life a little bit easier by simply not even considering any ships beyond TNG era; meaning no DS9 or Voyager craft of any kind, at the very least for the time being (although I did get a Bajoran Raider for some reason).

The golden rule: No non-Enterprise-based ships!

That eliminates quite lot of Alien hardware—maybe a third of the small stuff out there—and keeps me from getting too overwhelmed by wanting everything in sight! Plus, I'm not a real big fan of DS9 or Voyager. TOS, TNG and Enterprise are the shows I love. And pretty much all the movies, too.

And I could care less about completing sets or runs, so that helps. I just don't have the space, and the idea of "collecting" stuff to just keep them neatly packed forever in boxes in the garage sounds a trifle ludicrous to me.

So, I try to concentrate on just getting the best make of each class, with as few dupes as possible. This means no Yamato when I have the Ent. D and no Saratoga when I have the Reliant. Stuff like that.

And then I'd like to have a few choice large ships like the Bandai Ents. and maybe a Corgi BoP that would look in scale with them.

But who knows, I'm new at this, so tomorrow I could change the plan of attack. Or my wife could kick me out and I would have all kinds of space. :D

But you know, ultimately you can't take this tuff with you, so we gotta remember to not let our whities get all in a bunch....

clone157
07-11-2009, 10:14 PM
So, would you pick up some if they made more from the new movie? Have you picked up that F-toys NX-01 yet? I think it's right up your alley. Also, are you interested in the Phoenix from First Contact? BTW, the HW Klingon BoP rocks hard, as I've just opened mine up.

Spectre o'the Phaser
07-11-2009, 11:13 PM
So, would you pick up some if they made more from the new movie? Have you picked up that F-toys NX-01 yet? I think it's right up your alley. Also, are you interested in the Phoenix from First Contact? BTW, the HW Klingon BoP rocks hard, as I've just opened mine up.

I would definitely want ships from the 2009 Trek, like the Ent. and the Kelvin.

I have the F-Toys NX-01, and I like it a lot. I wish it had translucent blue nacelle sides and translucent red nacelle ends a la TOS—now that would have been the bomb!! I'm not compelled to get the Mirror one since it's the same ship with some yellow paint added.

Got the Furuta Phoenix, too, which I think is most excellent, as well. I love the movable nacelles!

How long is your HW Klingon BoP? Trying to decide between that and the Corgi. I think the Corgi might be bigger. I like the movable wings on the HW and the translucent red plastic pieces. Don't know how the two models compare mano a mano, though. It's hard to declare a victor from pics. They're both about $15 so I might end up getting both and keeping the most appealing one while giving the lesser of the two to my 11-year old son. :twisted:

JediTricks
07-12-2009, 02:53 AM
That would make all the difference in the Hot Wheels ships. Maybe they'll stick to white instead of the funky green of the Corgi D.
They're going to have to do a whole lot of tampos on the D, it just has so many windows.The Ent-D is robin's egg blue, not green, not white. On-screen, it usually shows up mainly gray with a hint of that blue (I know we're discussing that in the other thread) so I always hope th licensees will go that route, and they so rarely do.

I wonder if they could get away with using a set of masks instead of going to tampos, it'd risk being less accurate but more even - I hate when tampos get all mis-aligned, and it's SOOOO common.



Hey Nostradamus :).... I posted a pic of a HW SDCC proto a while back... and yes indeed, it comes in a silly case. It's on the HW website.I am aware, but I didn't see any painted detail so I was talking about that. Hell, it could be flocked like the Batmobile for all I know.



From these pics, I'd say that the Furuta's (unbagged) slightly better than the Konami BoP... better paint apps and the wings seem more accurate to me.

But they are so seriously similar that I can't bring myself to fork out $40 on one... so like Spec, I'll stalk this prey from afar.Based on those pics, the bagged Konami looks way better. More accurate underside and "shoulders", and even though it has less paint, the added paint on the Furuta doesn't look all that accurate except on the actual wing parts, the rest is wonky. For sculpt, there are a lot of little things that catch my eye, like the back of the wings where the meet the ship, and the underside where they DON'T meet the ship (like they shouldn't), other stuff like that.

But hellllll no I wouldn't pay $40 for it. I guess I'm lucky I got the Corgi which covers the sculpt bases and is metal and cheaper.


BTW, there's a Romando K-BoP that's about a third smaller than the Furuta & Konami... quite nice, too. Might be better for some scales...
There's also the Strike Force BoP (huge) and I've got a maquette one that's slightly larger than the Corgi... plus there's the Konami-sized Hallmark too.

Speaking of Hallmark, the Klingon Battlecruiser comes out this weekend. I will be gettin' it for sure.

The Konami set does indeed come with the refit and A... almost Hallmark sized. Aside from the "A" on the ship and stand, they're identical.[/quote]



I took a few shots of my Corgi D (my only "new" Corgi) so you can get a sense of its scale... it is about twice the length of the F-Toys TOS Ent. That was my thinking too, Spec. If Corgi had done the E, I would have been ecstatic.Thanks for the pics. It doesn't look as inaccurate in sculpt as some of the other pics I've seen, but that paint job doesn't work for my tastes at all, the azteking looks like it has the mange or something, like it's made out of mismatched LEGO, like a computer threw up on it. :p I'm glad I held off, it's just not for me at all.



Why can't they just agree to one scale and it would make things a lot easier. :cross-eyeBecause they are competing companies and want to make their own scale the one that's most popular. Also, different sculpting talent likes to work with different sizes. And scale is a nightmare anyway, something like the JL Enterprise A would result in an Ent-D that's the Hot Wheels size, taking the "mini" out of it. There'd be no consistent pricepoint either, each one would require massively different sculpting, paint, materials, and amount of raw materials for the tooling even.



How long is your HW Klingon BoP? Trying to decide between that and the Corgi. I think the Corgi might be bigger. I like the movable wings on the HW and the translucent red plastic pieces. Don't know how the two models compare mano a mano, though. It's hard to declare a victor from pics. They're both about $15 so I might end up getting both and keeping the most appealing one while giving the lesser of the two to my 11-year old son. :twisted:I dunno how long their HW K-BOP is, but the one I bought is 4" long stem to stern. The Corgi is virtually identical in size to the HW. In terms of which is better, each has its own reasons to exist. The Corgi has improved sculpting and accuracy, a much more refined and weathered paint job, more metal, and a classy stand. The HW has movable wings, a few paint cues that aren't found on the Corgi, a stand that lets the ship tilt a little, and a color scheme that's a different but still accurate take on the ship (except for the red spots which are worthless crap). The Corgi simply cannot do the wing thing at all, and the front of its shoulders are missing detail found on the lower half of the front of the HW shoulders, but the HW wings don't stop evenly to each other and don't properly replicate the "wings up" pose. The part of the actual wing closest to the fuselage is grossly inaccurate on the HW because of the hinge, which changes the dynamic a little. The Corgi is a nicer item to keep on a desk, the HW is more fun to whoosh. The Corgi is off the market and harder to find, the HW is on the market and in stores now.

Personally, if you can get it at that similar price, I'd recommend the Corgi first, it has fine consistency about the weathering and sculpt, and is a more refined "collectible". But if you need the wing thing, the HW isn't a bad choice either, just not in the same field.

Spectre o'the Phaser
07-12-2009, 08:02 PM
I dunno how long their HW K-BOP is, but the one I bought is 4" long stem to stern. The Corgi is virtually identical in size to the HW. In terms of which is better, each has its own reasons to exist. The Corgi has improved sculpting and accuracy, a much more refined and weathered paint job, more metal, and a classy stand. The HW has movable wings, a few paint cues that aren't found on the Corgi, a stand that lets the ship tilt a little, and a color scheme that's a different but still accurate take on the ship (except for the red spots which are worthless crap). The Corgi simply cannot do the wing thing at all, and the front of its shoulders are missing detail found on the lower half of the front of the HW shoulders, but the HW wings don't stop evenly to each other and don't properly replicate the "wings up" pose. The part of the actual wing closest to the fuselage is grossly inaccurate on the HW because of the hinge, which changes the dynamic a little. The Corgi is a nicer item to keep on a desk, the HW is more fun to whoosh. The Corgi is off the market and harder to find, the HW is on the market and in stores now.

Personally, if you can get it at that similar price, I'd recommend the Corgi first, it has fine consistency about the weathering and sculpt, and is a more refined "collectible". But if you need the wing thing, the HW isn't a bad choice either, just not in the same field.

The real clincher, though, is which of the two has the capability to fire torpedoes while cloaked?! :D

Thanks for the detailed comparison, JT! Sounds like he Corgi is the one for me. I'm always all atingle over a more refined and accurate sculpt and paint. More metal is nice, too, on a "die-cast" pice. And although wings up would be nice I wouldn't want it at the cost of hinge-caused inaccuracies. Besides, I don't plan on 'whooshing' it much with wings up. Ultimately, I will always lean toward the more "adult" collectible. You can still find a Corgi on Ebay for the reasonable price of around $15.

Darth Duranium
07-13-2009, 06:45 PM
I didn't realize that the JL D is actually smaller than the F-Toys'! That kinda sucks.

I'm torn; because I like the idea of scale—the C, D and E being considerably bigger than the Constitutions—but it's inherently impossible to stay faithful to that standard of true scale with all-small scale ships, and at the same time have the best quality makes of each model. :( But to have the F-Toys Constitutions right next on the shelf to the Sovereigns and Galaxies of the F-Toys, Konamis and Furutas just looks a bit funny and bothers me. Maybe I oughtta separate them...

But that Corgi D looks great, even though the color looks off! It still puts to shame that new AA colossus that so disappoints!

Yup... the F-Toys Ent D's saucer is bigger and thinner than JL's but it doesn't separate... if it wasn't for that @#$%# strut I'd rate it higher.

I split my fleet up on the shelves to keep some sense of scale... TNG and later on the top shelf, TOS Movie-era on the 2nd shelf, and ENT/TOS on the shelf below that. I'm not strict about it but I don't put any Corgis or larger scale ships in there at all... looks "a bit funny", as you say. But I have no issue with JLs, Furutas, F-Toys etc. all mixed in together. In fact, I like the variations on the same theme...:D One big happy fleet, so to speak.

I like the Corgi D... agreed on its paint being better than AA's colossus... and agreed, it looks a lot closer to a collector's piece than a toy to me. Still, I like the AA and would probably buy one if it weren't so frickin' huge.
I think my Corgi's too big, to be honest... smaller allows more variety.


So the question I put forth is: which ships (I'm really only concered with the Federation stuff) are in scale with each other? My wife won't let me print the page from merzo.net and my computer is not where I have my fleet. Spec, I feel for you. I, too, just keep getting more and more new ships and destroying my paypal account. I have to separate my fleet into different eras. Enterprise/TOS; Kirk and crew movies; TNG\DS9; Voyager\ First Contact eras. Circle, oval, ellipse. Only way I stay sane, besides separating my clones out. BTW, my son says "hello",
by kissing my monitor, to all.

First, hello to your son! The scale question is open for debate on any given ship you'd like to discuss, really. Shot to shot, there's no way you can know for sure exactly how big each ship is "in reality"... so there's endless debate about this issue. Even the new Ent's size is the subject of much debate. Sounds like your fleet's arranged similarly to mine... we could fly formations! :D


I am aware, but I didn't see any painted detail so I was talking about that. Hell, it could be flocked like the Batmobile for all I know.

I used to collect Batmobiles and Batplanes so I'd be stoked for that.:)



But you know, ultimately you can't take this stuff with you, so we gotta remember to not let our whities get all in a bunch....

That's the Americanized version of "Don't get your knickers in a knot".:D Ours' rhymes better.

I like the paint on the Furuta K-BoP a lot better than Konami's drab deal... but I'd agree that Konami's mould is superior around the back end... the engines, especially. I do still want a Konami one... when they're much cheaper.

I'm also not too bothered whether my K-BoPs can raise their wings or not... just so long as it looks good "whooshing" on my shelf. :pleased:

Speaking of the Klingons, I picked up the Hallmark Battle Cruiser... I had to rearrange 'em so I took some pics for you guys.

Don't know why I forgot to take a few pics with the lights on... well, there's video on the HM site. Lights stay on 30 seconds... except for the launcher that "fires" 3 torpedoes and turns off. Suh-weet!

It's really nice... I love the paint... almost identical in size to the Konami BC. The last pic is the Romando... don't know if I've shot it before.

Spectre o'the Phaser
07-13-2009, 08:14 PM
Yup... the F-Toys Ent D's saucer is bigger and thinner than JL's but it doesn't separate... if it wasn't for that @#$%# strut I'd rate it higher.

By 'strut,' I assume you mean the way the F-Toys D attaches the stand? Yeah, that bites it, but the weight of the saucer forces this. Otherwise the piece would topple forward on its stand.


I like the Corgi D... agreed on its paint being better than AA's colossus... and agreed, it looks a lot closer to a collector's piece than a toy to me. Still, I like the AA and would probably buy one if it weren't so frickin' huge.

I think my Corgi's too big, to be honest... smaller allows more variety.

Yes, it's twice as big, but thus it's nearly to perfect scale with the F-Toys, TOS 1701, Refit 1701 and NX-01. :thumbsup:



That's the Americanized version of "Don't get your knickers in a knot".:D Ours' rhymes better.

Can't argue with that. It sort of rolls off the tongue. But I thought 'knickers' was British.


I like the paint on the Furuta K-BoP a lot better than Konami's drab deal... but I'd agree that Konami's mould is superior around the back end... the engines, especially. I do still want a Konami one... when they're much cheaper.

I must disagree here. At least from what I can tell from your fine pics, the Furuta paint comes across as a bit too saturated for my taste, with those teal panels on the wings popping too much and those orange sections just before the tips likewise. To me the movie birds seem more monochromatic than that, closer to the Konami version.


I'm also not too bothered whether my K-BoPs can raise their wings or not... just so long as it looks good "whooshing" on my shelf. :pleased:

Agreed.


Speaking of the Klingons, I picked up the Hallmark Battle Cruiser... I had to rearrange 'em so I took some pics for you guys.

Don't know why I forgot to take a few pics with the lights on... well, there's video on the HM site. Lights stay on 30 seconds... except for the launcher that "fires" 3 torpedoes and turns off. Suh-weet!

It's really nice... I love the paint... almost identical in size to the Konami BC. The last pic is the Romando... don't know if I've shot it before.

Man, that looks nice! But as always that gigantic eye-hook embedded into its upper back hurts me more than it must hurt the bird itself. Ouch!

This unattractive hardware aside, I need to consider whether I want to start in on the Hallmarks, as nice as they are—lighting up and all, too! That would open up a whole new can of spending worms. :(

Blue2th
07-13-2009, 08:36 PM
Wow! gonna have to get the Hallmark KBC. The paint looks awesome!
The hook and button are kind of an annoyance, but oh well. I noticed it's a black colored hook, I was just mentioning a couple of weeks ago saying I was going to do that to my ST ornaments for lower visibility. :)
I like the fact it's the same size as the Konami.
How long do the lights last after you press the button, and where are all the lights?


I was thinking the F-toys Enterprise D would be a good candidate for an Action fleet type stand. Drill the right size hole on the engineering section, but if snug enough it should hold it in place. The very small slit for the F-Toys stand would probably be easy to fill in with a piece of grey model flash plastic and or colored glue. It's really not that visible underneath anyways.

You've done a few stand mods already DT?

Darth Duranium
07-13-2009, 09:55 PM
By 'strut,' I assume you mean the way the F-Toys D attaches the stand? Yeah, that bites it, but the weight of the saucer forces this. Otherwise the piece would topple forward on its stand.

Noone else went that route... they all attach the stand to the secondary hull... I wish they'd done that instead. Still, it is a nicely-done piece and the saucer is nicely sleek and big, like the Corgi.


Yes, it's twice as big, but thus it's nearly to perfect scale with the F-Toys, TOS 1701, Refit 1701 and NX-01. :thumbsup:

If only Corgi had done the E.... then we could really see how they look as a properly scaled fleet of Ents.:mad:



Can't argue with that. It sort of rolls off the tongue. But I thought 'knickers' was British.

Well, I'm British and Canadian... but the Knicks are from NYC...:D


I must disagree here. At least from what I can tell from your fine pics, the Furuta paint comes across as a bit too saturated for my taste, with those teal panels on the wings popping too much and those orange sections just before the tips likewise. To me the movie birds seem more monochromatic than that, closer to the Konami version.

Probably more to do with my pics than anything else... the Furuta's paint isn't nearly as as saturated as it looks in the pic. Still, they're both pretty close... please don't talk me into having to buy the Konami yet! :cross-eye Nooooooo....


This unattractive hardware aside, I need to consider whether I want to start in on the Hallmarks, as nice as they are—lighting up and all, too! That would open up a whole new can of spending worms. :(

Well, the hooks are removable... there are a bunch worth checking out. Might need to order the jumbo keg of spending worms... though most are pretty cheap.


I noticed it's a black colored hook, I was just mentioning a couple of weeks ago saying I was going to do that to my ST ornaments for lower visibility. :)

Sorry Blue, but it's a brass-coloured hook just like the others. It wouldn't take long to paint or remove the hooks but my Hallmarks swarm the Xmas tree every year so I'll leave 'em as-is.




I like the fact it's the same size as the Konami.
How long do the lights last after you press the button, and where are all the lights? I agree... the Konami and HM look great together. Lights last about 30 seconds... video here:

http://www.hallmark.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10051&storeId=10001&partNumber=QXI1185_DK&rank=P1R1S&searchValue=klingon&fromSearch=true



I was thinking the F-toys Enterprise D would be a good candidate for an Action fleet type stand. Drill the right size hole on the engineering section, but if snug enough it should hold it in place. The very small slit for the F-Toys stand would probably be easy to fill in with a piece of grey model flash plastic and or colored glue. It's really not that visible underneath anyways.

You've done a few stand mods already DT?

I've adapted a few Hallmarks to fit Furuta stands and modded some Titanium stands... nothing too radical. I think it'd be quite easy to do as you suggest with the F-Toys Ent D... as long as you have a heavily weighted stand (I think an AF stand would be too big) and some 2-step epoxy. It would probably have to be a permanent mod in order to balance the ship just right.

JediTricks
07-13-2009, 10:41 PM
The real clincher, though, is which of the two has the capability to fire torpedoes while cloaked?! :D

Thanks for the detailed comparison, JT! Sounds like he Corgi is the one for me. I'm always all atingle over a more refined and accurate sculpt and paint. More metal is nice, too, on a "die-cast" pice. And although wings up would be nice I wouldn't want it at the cost of hinge-caused inaccuracies. Besides, I don't plan on 'whooshing' it much with wings up. Ultimately, I will always lean toward the more "adult" collectible. You can still find a Corgi on Ebay for the reasonable price of around $15.Then I wholeheartedly recommend this piece, it continues to blow my mind every day, it's a great-looking display item - and it actually gets even better-looking when dusty! :D



I used to collect Batmobiles and Batplanes so I'd be stoked for that.:)Well, it's their premium 1:18th scale 1960s Batmobile, so if you wanna see it, go check it out. It's bizarre to me, why Batman needs a fuzzy car I don't understand.

Darth Windu
07-13-2009, 10:53 PM
This unattractive hardware aside, I need to consider whether I want to start in on the Hallmarks, as nice as they are—lighting up and all, too! That would open up a whole new can of spending worms. :(
Yeah I've thought about it too, my solution is that I'll only buy Hallmarks that haven't been made by other companies. Therefore I WILL buy the Delta Flyer, ENT Vulcan Ship etc, but will NOT buy the Defiant, Voyager etc :)

Blue2th
07-13-2009, 10:55 PM
I split my fleet up on the shelves to keep some sense of scale... TNG and later on the top shelf, TOS Movie-era on the 2nd shelf, and ENT/TOS on the shelf below that. I'm not strict about it but I don't put any Corgis or larger scale ships in there at all... looks "a bit funny", as you say. But I have no issue with JLs, Furutas, F-Toys etc. all mixed in together. In fact, I like the variations on the same theme...:D One big happy fleet, so to speak.

Some I do that way if they are close to scale to make little dioramas This is why I like extras from other lines, mix and match different brands/similar scales. ;) but then I just put them into series categories, Voyager, TNG, TOS, and try to match scales within if not at least they have a theme.


Yeah, it can be a bit frustrating. I've made my life a little bit easier by simply not even considering any ships beyond TNG era; meaning no DS9 or Voyager craft of any kind, at the very least for the time being (although I did get a Bajoran Raider for some reason).

The golden rule: No non-Enterprise-based ships!


That eliminates quite lot of Alien hardware—maybe a third of the small stuff out there—and keeps me from getting too overwhelmed by wanting everything in sight! Plus, I'm not a real big fan of DS9 or Voyager. TOS, TNG and Enterprise are the shows I love. And pretty much all the movies, too.

And I could care less about completing sets or runs, so that helps. I just don't have the space, and the idea of "collecting" stuff to just keep them neatly packed forever in boxes in the garage sounds a trifle ludicrous to me.

So, I try to concentrate on just getting the best make of each class, with as few dupes as possible. This means no Yamato when I have the Ent. D and no Saratoga when I have the Reliant. Stuff like that.

And then I'd like to have a few choice large ships like the Bandai Ents. and maybe a Corgi BoP that would look in scale with them.

But who knows, I'm new at this, so tomorrow I could change the plan of attack. Or my wife could kick me out and I would have all kinds of space. :D

But you know, ultimately you can't take this tuff with you, so we gotta remember to not let our whities get all in a bunch....

I have one section devoted to the best Enterprise's only. Scale is not that important ( small scale) but suprisingly they look good all lined up. As the best make of Enterprise becomes available, it gets the Ultimate Enterprise Shrine slot starting from TOS, and ending up at Enterprise E.

You do appreciate some of us who do buy whole runs so you/we can find out what the good ones are. ;)



http://www.hallmark.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10051&storeId=10001&partNumber=QXI1185_DK&rank=P1R1S&searchValue=klingon&fromSearch=true[/url]

Seein' things again.
Nice!!!:thumbsup:

Spectre o'the Phaser
07-13-2009, 11:34 PM
I have one section devoted to the best Enterprise's only. Scale is not that important ( small scale) but suprisingly they look good all lined up. As the best make of Enterprise becomes available, it gets the Ultimate Enterprise Shrine slot starting from TOS, and ending up at Enterprise E.

At this relatively early stage of collecting I've arranged my ships more or less chronologically, like you. Phoenix, NX, TOS, Refit, B, C, D, E (still haven't got the E). Seems the logical thing to do.

Alien ships are more randomly displayed; generally the larger ship—particularly withe squatter stand—like the JL Romulan BoP would be in front and the smaller ships with taller stands, like Fururta Warbird in back, to mimic distance/perspective. I'd like to share a pic at some point.


You do appreciate some of us who do buy whole runs so you/we can find out what the good ones are. ;)

Oh, absolutely! Why do you think I keep coming back?

Blue2th
07-13-2009, 11:41 PM
I still haven't decided on which Ent E is the best yet, but I got the Konami on the way.

There are some other obscure Furuta Starfleet ships that are pretty cool.

Blue2th
07-14-2009, 12:56 AM
Other Starfleet Ships:

Furuta:

Stargazer
Faragut
Promethieus
Voyager (tiny JL)
Equinox
Pasteur
Grissom

Blue2th
07-14-2009, 01:00 AM
Here's the Pasteur, Grissom & Equinox. I don't know if they're kinda in scale but they look good together.

Oh and I found my Hallmark DS9 with all the accessory ships. Haven't put batteries in it yet.

Spectre o'the Phaser
07-14-2009, 01:25 PM
Ok, so rank the major ships in Trek (Starfleet only). Here's mine:

Ent-Refit
Ent-E
Ent-D
Defiant
Excelsior
TOS-era 1701
Reliant
NX-01
Runabout
new movie
Voyager
Ent-C
Ent-B

I never did chime in on this way back when, so here goes:

Ent 1701-Refit/A
Ent 1701-2009
Ent 1701-TOS
Ent 1701-E
Ent NX-01
Ent 1701-D (Not future version)
Ent 1701-B/Excelsior
Reliant
Equinox
Prometheus
Ent 1701-C
Voyager
Defiant
Future Ent 1701-D

The TOS is very hard to rate because it was designed for television in the mid-late sixties, and so it's almost like comparing apples to oranges when comparing it to the later designs.

Spectre o'the Phaser
07-14-2009, 05:48 PM
Speaking of the Klingons, I picked up the Hallmark Battle Cruiser...
It's really nice... I love the paint... almost identical in size to the Konami BC.

Looks dang good. I meant to ask you, you gonna remove that hook? I kinda remember you described the process once of how to do that. Do you just gently twist it back and forth with pliers until it can be pulled out? I'd want to pull that sucker out if I ever got this faster than you can say 'dang useless wisdom tooth!'

And how'd you make that makeshift stand?

Although the Konami BC looks good, too, the thing that disturbs me about Konamis is the rubbery softness that very often renders ships warped. My Konami Ent B has some of that going, with everything kinda arching upward; and I can see some weird stuff happening with a cruiser as can be seen in that pic below. Look at the far engine, in particular. Sheeesh! The thing looks like it got too close to the sun!

JediTricks
07-14-2009, 06:40 PM
Other Starfleet Ships:

Furuta:

Stargazer
Faragut
Promethieus
Voyager (tiny JL)
Equinox
Pasteur
Grissom
The detail on the Farragut is bizarre, both the phaser strip and the bridge are sticking way out. That is so odd.

The rest of those Furutas are sweet, I wish I had access to the Prometheus and Stargazer especially (I feel like I do have the Prometheus somewhere, but am not sure as I don't have my Trek ships out at the moment). The Equinox has great surface detail.



Here's the Pasteur, Grissom & Equinox. I don't know if they're kinda in scale but they look good together.Not even remotely. The Grissom and Equinox are fairly close in size, but the Pasteur is supposed to be about twice as long as them.

Spectre o'the Phaser
07-14-2009, 07:34 PM
The detail on the Farragut is bizarre, both the phaser strip and the bridge are sticking way out. That is so odd.


Haven't noticed that, but to me the most bothersome errors have to do with the model having several "layers" that are stacked atop each other and at that scale they don't fit snuggly enough. So, the whole thing ends up looking like a tall sandwich—much taller than it should—at least the way the main hulls stack together. I've done some shaving of the flat areas that make up the top of the lower hull in order to allow the nacelle assembly and the main hull to sit lower atop of it, but it still doesn't look right. Also, the main pylon that supports that upper triangular section is too short but at the same time the tiny pin at the top was too long so there was a large gap when the sections met. I shaved it down so that the top section fits flush down onto the pylon; but now this section is too low and almost touches the main hull. :upset:

What we need is F-toys to start cranking 'em out....

clone157
07-14-2009, 11:29 PM
I agree. Plus they need to hit those ships from Furuta's series 1. Stargazer, Romulan Warbird, Klingon Battlecruiser would be nice, too. There's another question: What would everyone like to see in a series 2 of F-toys or even Konamis? What kind of mix of classic, Next Gen, and End of series/ insurrection eras?

Blue2th
07-15-2009, 12:34 AM
I really wouldn't care too much as long as there is a dominant mixture of Starfleet Ships we haven't seen yet or even improved versions of some of the obscure Furutas, like that Farragut would be a good candidate.
The Excelsior would have to be at the top of the list.
Also more ships from Enterprise. The NX-01 is all we've gotten.

Spectre o'the Phaser
07-15-2009, 12:52 AM
Well, my wish list probably lacks quite a bit of imagination, and I'm sure by most standards falls well-short of a gourmet array, but for now I wouldn't mind sticking to the meat-and-potatoes platter prepared a la F-Toys perfection:

Ent. 1701 (ST 2009)
Ent. 1701-A
Ent. 1701-B
Ent. 1701-C
Ent. 1701-D (Future)
Ent. 1701-E

'Nuff said. :pleased:

Darth Duranium
07-15-2009, 04:15 AM
Once again, nice pics Blue...:thumbsup: it's cool to see 'em with interesting lighting.

I like the Pasteur cuz it reminds me of early Starfleet designs like the Daedalus... I guess that was intentional in a time-shifting episode but it's still cool.:)


Looks dang good. I meant to ask you, you gonna remove that hook? I kinda remember you described the process once of how to do that. Do you just gently twist it back and forth with pliers until it can be pulled out? I'd want to pull that sucker out if I ever got this faster than you can say 'dang useless wisdom tooth!'

And how'd you make that makeshift stand?

Although the Konami BC looks good, too, the thing that disturbs me about Konamis is the rubbery softness that very often renders ships warped. My Konami Ent B has some of that going, with everything kinda arching upward; and I can see some weird stuff happening with a cruiser as can be seen in that pic below. Look at the far engine, in particular. Sheeesh! The thing looks like it got too close to the sun!

I'm gonna leave the hook on, unless I can score another one really cheap on eBay after Xmas... I do like the Hallmarks on the Xmas tree... and they plummet like buckshot squirrels without hooks. The good news is that the hook's far back on the HM KBC so it's not easily visible on my shelf. BTW, I still have my wisdom teeth.:)

Yep, the hooks are not screwed in with a thread (heat injected) so they come out fairly easily using that method... be careful not to rip off a nacelle or something, cuz they're tricksy to brace against.
I put it on another black stand (than the 1 in the pic) so it lines up with the Konami better on the shelf... can't remember where the stand came (a model maybe?) from but it has a flat top so the KBC rests perfectly on it.

My Konami KBC has a issue with that nacelle too... it wants to curl up a bit but can be bent back... it's an oversized-crammed-into-the-packaging issue, methinks. I agree that the Konamis are way too Sponge-Bob squishy... but I'm still pretty happy with them overall.

As for F-Toys and Konami Vol 2, I'd like to see ships from the new flick in this scale over anything else. A new Farragut, Kelvin, Ent, KBC, & Narada would be great. I think Nemesis got shafted.... like to see the Scimitar and the Romulan ships from that. We hardly saw anything except the HM Reman Scorpion and a few Es. Wouldn't mind a Son'a ship from Insurrection either.:D

Darth Windu
07-15-2009, 06:48 AM
The detail on the Farragut is bizarre, both the phaser strip and the bridge are sticking way out. That is so odd.

The rest of those Furutas are sweet, I wish I had access to the Prometheus and Stargazer especially (I feel like I do have the Prometheus somewhere, but am not sure as I don't have my Trek ships out at the moment). The Equinox has great surface detail.
Unfortunate about the Farragut too, the Nebula-class is one of my favourite designs :(

Keep in mind with the Equinox though that there's great surface detail on the top, but the detail is only painted on on the bottom. Strange, but true.

Darth Duranium
07-16-2009, 05:20 AM
Got my F-Toys Mirror NX yesterday... here's a few pics of it next to JL's.

Wow... it totally smokes JL's, huh?

Spectre o'the Phaser
07-16-2009, 02:03 PM
Got my F-Toys Mirror NX yesterday... here's a few pics of it next to JL's.

Wow... it totally smokes JL's, huh?

Hmm, well now..... I wouldn’t call it a smokin' slam-dunk by any means, DT; I’d have to give the Series 3 JL (I.S.S.) a definite edge on certain important points:

Painted details (all but lacking on F-Toys)
Size of red Nacelle ends (too small on F-Toys)
Size of blue dome on Symmetrical Warp Field Governor (too big on F-Toys)
Aztec-ing effort (lacking on F-Toys)
Underside of hull, Lower Sensor Array dome (just a slit on F-Toys, where stand fits into)

BUT the Series 1 of the JL U.S.S. NX-01 looks different, less detailed: no aztec-ing for instance. Whereas the Series 5 NX-01, firing torps, looks good. But I HATE those plastic torps!

A complete JL Series 3 set is currently Ebaying at $71.77 with still over 3 days left! Sickening!

BTW, very interesting interior schematics on the NX-01: http://www.waxingmoondesign.com/NX01Download.html

Darth Duranium
07-17-2009, 02:17 AM
Hmm, well now..... I wouldn’t call it a smokin' slam-dunk by any means, DT; I’d have to give the Series 3 JL (I.S.S.) a definite edge on certain important points:

Painted details (all but lacking on F-Toys)
Size of red Nacelle ends (too small on F-Toys)
Size of blue dome on Symmetrical Warp Field Governor (too big on F-Toys)
Aztec-ing effort (lacking on F-Toys)
Underside of hull, Lower Sensor Array dome (just a slit on F-Toys, where stand fits into)

BUT the Series 1 of the JL U.S.S. NX-01 looks different, less detailed: no aztec-ing for instance. Whereas the Series 5 NX-01, firing torps, looks good. But I HATE those plastic torps!

A complete JL Series 3 set is currently Ebaying at $71.77 with still over 3 days left! Sickening!

BTW, very interesting interior schematics on the NX-01: http://www.waxingmoondesign.com/NX01Download.html

You know I wouldn't use the slam dunk analogy, Spec! That'd be asking for trouble! :D

Agreed with most points but I still give the FT ISS NX a huge edge over the JL: the mould is just so much better IMO... the hull plates, windows, and fine detail is much sharper... there's even decks along the saucer. The JL relies on that OK aztecing to provide detail, and their mould's not nearly as fine. The entire FT is a nicer deep silver...almost gunmetal with dark panel details... looks more like the TV ship to me.

But I agree JL's paint is superior in places... especially around the bridge and their use of more coloured detail.. I especially like the running lights, red "doors", and bronzed areas.

Yet another example of "would like to see JL's paint on someone else's mould". It's a major reason I have so many ships... they all have good points and downsides... and noone gets it absolutely right... ever. Especially for around $5, which is how much these ships originally retailed for.

I had to figure out what you meant by Symmetrical Warp Field Governor... I thought it was a new term for Arnold Schwarzenegger.:pleased:

I'm absolutely floored by the JL prices these days, Spec. Holy crap! It ain't right. That set went for around $20 last year.

There's a few White Lightnings I'd still love to get... I've only got 1 and a half... I still want the NX-02 Columbia, and the Silver Voyager, Ent D, and Majestic. And the WL White TOS Ent... I know Blue's got one that he'll hopefully leave to me in his will.:pleased: I doubt I'll ever get any of them at today's prices, though.:cry: That time has gone.

Concerning the JLs, the hideous ("phaser") torpedoes come off very easily... not much of a problem. The phaser beam effect is kinda cool and I leave that on the ships... but it isn't glued on to the ships. The marmalade and nacho cheese dip damage effects have grown on me over time.:D

Blue2th
07-17-2009, 09:52 PM
Yup, that aztecing on the JL helps, but it's the sculpting details that blow me away on the F-Toys NX-01.
It's the one (well 2 NX's) I'm very glad I bought from the set. Along with the TOS Enterprise.

I never noticed till now the green lower sensor array on the bottom of the JL NX, cool.


I thought that the NX-01 only had hull plating and not any shield generators, or is that just another term for it?


Hey I just noticed they didn't even bother painting the photon torpedo bays on my F-Toys Refit. Anybody else have this omission?

I didn't know there was an NX-02 Columbia? Did I miss that?

Darth Duranium
07-18-2009, 04:04 PM
Hey I just noticed they didn't even bother painting the photon torpedo bays on my F-Toys Refit. Anybody else have this omission?

I didn't know there was an NX-02 Columbia? Did I miss that?

Mine doesn't have painted torpedo tubes either, Blue.

Then there's the Konami refit and A that have 3 photon tubes each... :frus:

JL did the NX-02 Columbia as a White Lightning... I'd love one but I doubt I'll ever do so...

BTW, I think the warp field is an entirely different beastie than energy "shields" or deck plating... obviously, it creates the bubble in space-time that allows them to scoot. The deflector field deflects crap while at warp. I have no idea how the Heisenberg compensators work.... seeing as how they blow a hole through the laws of physics.:)

Spectre o'the Phaser
07-18-2009, 05:17 PM
Hey I just noticed they didn't even bother painting the photon torpedo bays on my F-Toys Refit. Anybody else have this omission?

Not only did they not paint it, but they didn't even attempt to sculpt it; there's no taper. :hurt:

I would like to get the JL one someday to see that that one compares—if it doesn't cost my right arm and my left leg.

Darth Windu
07-20-2009, 07:39 AM
Alrighty about time for some pics. So I've taken a few pics of my Star Trek display I have, featuring some little ships and some big ships:
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/1635/0001121.jpg
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/9510/0001120.jpg
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/3531/0001122.jpg
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/3456/0001123.jpg
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/269/0001125.jpg
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/415/0001124.jpg
http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/6224/0001127.jpg
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/233/0001126.jpg

and here we have a few fuzzy pics of my paint modifications to the Furuta Ent-E and Defiant:
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/7717/enterpriseefront.jpg
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/2445/enterpriseetop.jpg
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/7574/defiantfront.jpg
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/2038/defiantback.jpg

JediTricks
07-20-2009, 02:25 PM
Keep in mind with the Equinox though that there's great surface detail on the top, but the detail is only painted on on the bottom. Strange, but true.Wow, super cheesy!


BTW, very interesting interior schematics on the NX-01: http://www.waxingmoondesign.com/NX01Download.htmlVery cool, thanks.


A complete JL Series 3 set is currently Ebaying at $71.77 with still over 3 days left! Sickening! It tells me something about fans though, that they don't give the right level of support to something they like when it's out, and then are willing to spend way more later to have it. This collector mentality is a pox on collecting as it is great for aftermarket sales but terrible for new product development. Of course, if collectors didn't feed the scalpers, the scalpers wouldn't be willing to ruin lines like this.

Spectre o'the Phaser
07-20-2009, 02:25 PM
Alrighty about time for some pics. So I've taken a few pics of my Star Trek display I have, featuring some little ships and some big ships:
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/1635/0001121.jpg


Very nice collection, Darth! (I didn't realize there was that much dust in space! :D)

Well, today completes my 51st year walking the planet and my 11-year old drew a B-day card for me by way of F-Toys! Thought I'd share...

BTW, I think his deflector puts JL to shame... :thumbsup:

JediTricks
07-20-2009, 02:27 PM
Congrats on the birthday and the awesome TOS art card! Glad to see the kid knows what a REAL Enterprise looks like. ;) I used to draw the Enterprise like that all the time when I was in grade school, but never got the angles right the way your kid did.

Darth Duranium
07-20-2009, 04:25 PM
It tells me something about fans though, that they don't give the right level of support to something they like when it's out, and then are willing to spend way more later to have it. This collector mentality is a pox on collecting as it is great for aftermarket sales but terrible for new product development.

Well said, JT... the Furuta and JL lines were out there for years with only lukewarm support from collectors and now they're a one way trip to Scalp City... which resoundingly sucks.:cry:. I think they'd have sold better if people had heard of them earlier... they were not well advertised.

If the JLs had been more popular, we might have gotten more new JL ships instead of the larger HW set or lame-o repaints. The HWs haven't made it to retail here whatsoever but it was impossible (for me at least) to find the last 3 JL sets at retail either... almost everything in this scale has come from eBay.

Well, the upside is that our small Trek ships collections have really been a good investment, as it turns out. Whoda thunk? Some of them are worth 8 to 10 times their prices from a year ago... looks like I won't have to sell off family members for scientific experiments after all.:D

JediTricks
07-20-2009, 07:47 PM
Well said, JT... the Furuta and JL lines were out there for years with only lukewarm support from collectors and now they're a one way trip to Scalp City... which resoundingly sucks.:cry:. I think they'd have sold better if people had heard of them earlier... they were not well advertised.

If the JLs had been more popular, we might have gotten more new JL ships instead of the larger HW set or lame-o repaints. The HWs haven't made it to retail here whatsoever but it was impossible (for me at least) to find the last 3 JL sets at retail either... almost everything in this scale has come from eBay.

Well, the upside is that our small Trek ships collections have really been a good investment, as it turns out. Whoda thunk? Some of them are worth 8 to 10 times their prices from a year ago... looks like I won't have to sell off family members for scientific experiments after all.:DI hate the idea of the "investment" collection piece because I'm always worried mine will break and I'll have to replace it.

I suppose I shouldn't place the blame squarely on collectors, JL and the gashopon-style ships did have distribution issues and JL had crummy assortments recycling old tooling, not to mention poor marketing. But we knew, we all knew what was out there and too many folks put it off.


BTW, this is why I like the bigger ships, you can take littler ships like the Hot Wheels line and do this:
http://img43.imageshack.us/i/entequarter.jpg/
http://img515.imageshack.us/i/entef.jpg/
http://img402.imageshack.us/i/entdunder.jpg/
http://img529.imageshack.us/i/entdside.jpg/

Blue2th
07-20-2009, 09:57 PM
I hate the idea of the "investment" collection piece because I'm always worried mine will break and I'll have to replace it.

I suppose I shouldn't place the blame squarely on collectors, JL and the gashopon-style ships did have distribution issues and JL had crummy assortments recycling old tooling, not to mention poor marketing. But we knew, we all knew what was out there and too many folks put it off.


BTW, this is why I like the bigger ships, you can take littler ships like the Hot Wheels line and do this:
http://img43.imageshack.us/i/entequarter.jpg/
http://img515.imageshack.us/i/entef.jpg/
http://img402.imageshack.us/i/entdunder.jpg/
http://img529.imageshack.us/i/entdside.jpg/

Luckily some of us were fans way back when, though I've waited on a few like the Konami's and paid a little more.

Accidents happen. My JL Enterprise D fell and when the saucer fell off it broke the alignment peg. Luckily it happened a while ago, so I managed to get another JL Ent D because I couldn't stand the thought of it being not fully functional.
Fearing I might do it again, I just glued the broken one and keep the other for backup.

Recently my Konami Aliens Drop Ship dropped, and broke the rear landing gear and the end of one of the fold out wings. I'm devastated. :cry:

I like to place the big AA ships next to the little ones in scale or at least close to scale.
I wonder if the F-Toys Defiant is closer to being in scale to the Enterprise E now that it's half the size of the Furuta which is too big?

Darth Duranium
07-21-2009, 12:40 AM
I hate the idea of the "investment" collection piece because I'm always worried mine will break and I'll have to replace it.

Ships broken by their owner/gravity/stupidity/force majeure/future ex-wives/pets/kids… now that’s a thread in itself… gives me nightmares...:ninja:


I suppose I shouldn't place the blame squarely on collectors, JL and the gashopon-style ships did have distribution issues and JL had crummy assortments recycling old tooling, not to mention poor marketing. But we knew, we all knew what was out there and too many folks put it off.

The JLs were on eBay in humungous numbers for a long time, but most gashapon were never intended to be distributed outside of Japan so they’ve always been a pain in the arse to find at retail. Unless you live in Tokyo or something...


BTW, this is why I like the bigger ships, you can take littler ships like the Hot Wheels line and do this:

Thanks for the pics... always cool to see. I’ll only get HWs if they come out with the new ships from the new flick… none of the first 3 do much for me though the BoP looks ok(Corgi's better)… the refit looks like it’s pulling on a leash. It’s cool to see the Reliant in scale with the Ent D in the Tholian Chainlink Region:D… the big D and E do indeed look pretty good. I’m not crazy about the “aztecing” paint on the E’s “saucer” (ellipse?) but the warp nacelles are just fantastic. Maybe it’s the shots but the D’s paint doesn’t look much more detailed than JL’s to me… but it is an impressive (and large) beast all the same. Is the hull robin’s egg blue?


Luckily some of us were fans way back when, though I've waited on a few like the Konami's and paid a little more.

For me, it was the Romando sets that I waited for... and paid too much for later… I was all over the rest of them MFs.:D


Accidents happen. My JL Enterprise D fell and when the saucer fell off it broke the alignment peg. Luckily it happened a while ago, so I managed to get another JL Ent D because I couldn't stand the thought of it being not fully functional.
Fearing I might do it again, I just glued the broken one and keep the other for backup.

Recently my Konami Aliens Drop Ship dropped, and broke the rear landing gear and the end of one of the fold out wings. I'm devastated. :cry:

I feel your pain… my dropship dropped and lost its nose antenna long ago… I wish I had glued it on back then because I have no clue where it is now. It is definitely a fragile ship.

I broke the stand’s peg off inside my F-Toys Ent refit’s secondary hull fairly recently (a Godzilla moment from yours truly) so, after a drill-out, it’s now glued-on to the stand.:upset: Can't see any difference on the stand, luckily.
When I think of the number of hits some of these ships have taken over the years, I’m amazed that they’re still in pretty good nick :thumbsup:


I like to place the big AA ships next to the little ones in scale or at least close to scale.
I wonder if the F-Toys Defiant is closer to being in scale to the Enterprise E now that it's half the size of the Furuta which is too big?

A daunting task… I think that there’s a (typically) huge amount of controversy about the Defiant’s relative size but it would seem (to me) to be pretty well-scaled from how they look in First Contact.


BTW Spec, nice pic! A future starship designer...


Alrighty about time for some pics. So I've taken a few pics of my Star Trek display I have, featuring some little ships and some big ships:

DW, just tell Spec that you’re working on a Vulcan desert diarama for your Furutas.:D

Cool pics, DW! Is that a Borg teddybear in there? Say it ain’t so! Poor teddy.

I like the red KBC…sweet paint… is that Gorkon’s ship? The Ent D model’s nice, too. Where’d that little MM-sized ST:V shuttle come from? A Playmates ship?

Nice deflector work (I think) on the Furuta E… looks to be the right colour now… like the Hallmark. What did you do to the top?

Did you paint your F-Toys Defiant too? The Furuta looks great… especially the back end… might have to try to do something similar at some point.

Darth Windu
07-21-2009, 01:43 AM
I broke the stand’s peg off inside my F-Toys Ent refit’s secondary hull fairly recently (a Godzilla moment from yours truly) so, after a drill-out, it’s now glued-on to the stand.:upset: Can't see any difference on the stand, luckily.
When I think of the number of hits some of these ships have taken over the years, I’m amazed that they’re still in pretty good nick :thumbsup:
Yeah I have my own - I'd just paid USD$20 many years ago for the MM Defiant (after finding out thanks to the internet that it actually existed) and was playing with it, when I dropped it and accidently stood on it, making it slide on the hard floor. Now structurally it's fine. The damage? The 'USS Defiant' paint in front of the bridge was completely destroyed :(


DW, just tell Spec that you’re working on a Vulcan desert diarama for your Furutas.:D
hahaha that's a good excuse :D No I really need to get around to dusting all of the ships and the top of the cabinet, just not something I've managed to get around to as yet.


Cool pics, DW! Is that a Borg teddybear in there? Say it ain’t so! Poor teddy.
It is! :D Mum (a huge ST fan) and I were at the Star Trek Experience in 2000 and after the ride were in the gift shop. I saw the Spock Teddy Bear (Best. Teddy. Ever) and said if she didn't get it, I would (she's a big fan of TOS) so she bought that one. I then had a toss up between the Klingon Bear and the Borg Bear, and figured I'd go with the Borg as a standard everyday teddy bear that had been assimilated haha.


I like the red KBC…sweet paint… is that Gorkon’s ship? The Ent D model’s nice, too. Where’d that little MM-sized ST:V shuttle come from? A Playmates ship?
Yeah it's the old AMT models, built for me and painted by my Dad since I was really young at the time and really couldn't do things too precisely. The shuttle is from the AMT Enterprise-A model kit, which is undergoing repairs after the parts of the nacelle struts that connect into the main hull decided to fail...


Nice deflector work (I think) on the Furuta E… looks to be the right colour now… like the Hallmark. What did you do to the top?
Yeah I think the original colour was blue, but gold is definately the right colour for the Ent-E deflector, I did the same thing on my Romando Ent-E actually. The top of the Furuta Ent-E has the PHASER STRIPS!!! :D


Did you paint your F-Toys Defiant too? The Furuta looks great… especially the back end… might have to try to do something similar at some point.
Nah haven't painted the F-toys just yet, still thinking about it. The Furuta definately needed it especially at the back. If I do re-paint the F-toys, it'll only be the front of the nacelles, adding a proper deep red with the gold highlights.

Blue2th
07-22-2009, 05:15 PM
Nice DW. :yes:

I have a dust problem too.

Here's some of my small ships displays, still working on it:

Darth Duranium
07-23-2009, 12:47 AM
The new Ent's coming out from Hallmark next year!

http://www.sirstevesguide.com/forums/showpost.php?p=687720&postcount=124

Spectre o'the Phaser
07-23-2009, 08:37 AM
The new Ent's coming out from Hallmark next year!

http://www.sirstevesguide.com/forums/showpost.php?p=687720&postcount=124

:thumbsup:
I just have one question... WHEN?

Darth Duranium
07-23-2009, 01:46 PM
:thumbsup:
I just have one question... WHEN?

Probably available a year from now... the HM ships usually come out in July...

I hate waiting (a year!)... but it's cool that we're definitely getting the new Ent in this scale.

Here's a pic of the new QMX uberexpensive large Ent from SDCC... god knows what it'll sell for. Lighting is suh-weet!!!

Blue2th
07-23-2009, 07:42 PM
Probably available a year from now... the HM ships usually come out in July...

I hate waiting (a year!)... but it's cool that we're definitely getting the new Ent in this scale.

Here's a pic of the new QMX uberexpensive large Ent from SDCC... god knows what it'll sell for. Lighting is suh-weet!!!
Other than the Hot Wheels, the Hallmark maybe the only one we'll ever see unless F-Toys steps up to the plate.

That QMX is sweet! If I were a rich man...beedee beedee. How big is that? Looks like something Bandai could have done.

I can't wait for the Hallmark Karaoke Cruiser! :thumbsup: We'll probably get a little white button on top of the saucer but oh well.

Darth Duranium
07-23-2009, 11:43 PM
Other than the Hot Wheels, the Hallmark maybe the only one we'll ever see unless F-Toys steps up to the plate.

Maybe Konami, too.


That QMX is sweet! If I were a rich man...beedee beedee. How big is that? Looks like something Bandai could have done.

I think it's in a different league than Bandai even, Blue. Maybe more like Code 3... this sucker's 34 inches long! No price yet but I'd bet it's over 3000 bones, so to speak. And like Bones, I'd be blasted into space and divorced if I picked up this trifling l'il trinket.:D


I can't wait for the Hallmark Karaoke Cruiser! :thumbsup: We'll probably get a little white button on top of the saucer but oh well.

Trying to find a better pic... and I ain't seen no Hot Wheels Trek ships at SDCC, apart from the exclusive. Where's that Kelvin, KC Ent, and Narada?

BTW, you guys oughtta check out this dude's (and his girl's) collection... very, very nice. There's a few in there that I've never seen before... among them that blue "Micro Series" Defiant next to the Furuta one. Who made that one?

Hit the back button at the bottom of the page to check out the other walls in the Toy Room. Wow don't cover it. Completely out of hand!

http://www.norsemeat.com/west.html

Blue2th
07-24-2009, 08:19 AM
Maybe Konami, too.



I think it's in a different league than Bandai even, Blue. Maybe more like Code 3... this sucker's 34 inches long! No price yet but I'd bet it's over 3000 bones, so to speak. And like Bones, I'd be blasted into space and divorced if I picked up this trifling l'il trinket.:D



Trying to find a better pic... and I ain't seen no Hot Wheels Trek ships at SDCC, apart from the exclusive. Where's that Kelvin, KC Ent, and Narada?

BTW, you guys oughtta check out this dude's (and his girl's) collection... very, very nice. There's a few in there that I've never seen before... among them that blue "Micro Series" Defiant next to the Furuta one. Who made that one?

Hit the back button at the bottom of the page to check out the other walls in the Toy Room. Wow don't cover it. Completely out of hand!

http://www.norsemeat.com/west.html

Wow! :shocked: He's running out of room he said, but if he could get some extra boards for those existing white shelves maybe.
I've go a lot, but I aint got all that.

I checked the QMX site, and yeah that's big for the big league. 34 inches, that's the size of the Polar Lights Enterprise kits.
They do say that they are going to put out some ships "at a fraction of the cost" around 10 inches in size. That might be something to consider.

Diecast Alley has the next waves of Hot Wheels ST ships for pre-order. I don't see the Kelvin on there. :mad: Most are the new Enterprise, Narada, and battle damaged repaints, and the Saratoga:
http://dcastalley.stores.yahoo.net/hotwhbtr.html

Spectre o'the Phaser
07-24-2009, 11:00 AM
I think it's in a different league than Bandai even, Blue. Maybe more like Code 3... this sucker's 34 inches long! No price yet but I'd bet it's over 3000 bones, so to speak. And like Bones, I'd be blasted into space and divorced if I picked up this trifling l'il trinket.:D

You and me both! My wish would be for Bandai to come back into production.



BTW, you guys oughtta check out this dude's (and his girl's) collection... very, very nice.
http://www.norsemeat.com/west.html

Was there a mention of a girl? I find that hard to believe! :D

Imagine the logistical nightmare of relocating?!

Darth Duranium
07-25-2009, 10:32 PM
There's a number of us here (me included) who could give that dude a real run for his money on the ship collection... but he's got so much stuff in other categories it's quite unbelievable.

I think it's cool he's found a fangirl who likes toys as much as he does... I've met scant few.

Their display units are a bit low-rent, but it's the contents that count.

Anybody know who made that blue HM-sized "micro series" Defiant? Just curious...

A "fraction" of $3000 for the 10 inch QMX ships could still be pricey... time to play Fiddler On The Roof again...

Blue2th
07-26-2009, 01:02 AM
Where'd he find her? Comic Con?

I don't know who made that Defiant. I was thinking it was a DQ promo toy http://cgi.ebay.com/Babylon-5-Micro-Machines-Star-Trek-Defiant-DQ-toy_W0QQitemZ280375838626QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_Def aultDomain_0?hash=item4147b3c7a2&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1205%7C 293%3A2%7C294%3A50#ht_500wt_973

...but it doesn't look as detailed. Maybe a Galoob Micro-verse?

Yeah, what's a "fraction"? Maybe I make a fraction of what it costs to get one. :rolleyes: Guess we'll see.

Spectre o'the Phaser
07-26-2009, 10:00 PM
There's a Japanese dude selling the complete set of [6] F-Toys for $38 + $6 s/h. I couldn't resist and bought a set, since I was missing the Mirror NX-01 and the Defiant. Will take some of the dupes to the office and give some to my son, too. Can never have too many *F*toys! lol

http://cgi.ebay.com/Star-Trek-Fleet-Vol-1-Full-set-of-6-F-toys-NX-01_W0QQitemZ130321035633QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_Defa ultDomain_0?hash=item1e57bd3171&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12|66%3A2|39%3A1|72%3A2125|293%3A1| 294%3A50

Blue2th
07-26-2009, 11:21 PM
There's a Japanese dude selling the complete set of [6] F-Toys for $38 + $6 s/h. I couldn't resist and bought a set, since I was missing the Mirror NX-01 and the Defiant. Will take some of the dupes to the office and give some to my son, too. Can never have too many *F*toys! lol

http://cgi.ebay.com/Star-Trek-Fleet-Vol-1-Full-set-of-6-F-toys-NX-01_W0QQitemZ130321035633QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_Defa ultDomain_0?hash=item1e57bd3171&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12|66%3A2|39%3A1|72%3A2125|293%3A1| 294%3A50

That's the guy I got mine from I do believe.

Just won me a Hallmark Enterprise A on the bay a few hours ago.

Got my Konami's the other day, but the Reliant was broken, so expecting a replacement.
For the money, and quality I can't really recommend buying this whole set at all. Like you mentioned and feared Spec, there's a lot of bending plastic to deal with.

Darth Duranium
07-27-2009, 01:54 AM
TGot my Konami's the other day, but the Reliant was broken, so expecting a replacement.

For the money, and quality I can't really recommend buying this whole set at all. Like you mentioned and feared Spec, there's a lot of bending plastic to deal with.

My Reliant was the only one that was excessively bent... I just relegated it to the Cardboard Box Shipyards. I was pretty blase about that set... though the Ent E's worthwhile.

Spectre o'the Phaser
07-27-2009, 09:37 AM
My Reliant was the only one that was excessively bent... I just relegated it to the Cardboard Box Shipyards. I was pretty blase about that set... though the Ent E's worthwhile.

Still waiting for my Konami Ent E to arrive from somewhere in the Orient. Must be on impulse drive.

I've found that most Ebay sellers are pretty good about returning defective stuff. Although I don't have any return experience with sellers from Japan or Hong Kong yet. Also, return shipping may a 50/50 proposition; but with the PayPal protection/coverage along with the Ebay feedback system a buyer has some pretty good leverage.

Darth Duranium
07-28-2009, 02:37 PM
Still waiting for my Konami Ent E to arrive from somewhere in the Orient. Must be on impulse drive.

Must be working its way through the Briar Patch... or maybe Deanna Troy's in command....;)

Blue2th
07-28-2009, 02:47 PM
Yeah, my cardboard box ship yard is growing too! lol What would you call that, the Cardboard Quadrant? :D

But hey, I'm seeing all these cool kitbashes and some of yours DT, and my mind gets a thinkin' :Ponder:

BTW: I just won Star Trek MM set 2 on the bay recently for $45, now I'm eye-ballin' set 3, but that might take a while as they still go for over $100. :shocked:

Somebody just put the MM 3 pack with Sisko's Sailer on there. I'll bet it goes high!

Blue2th
07-28-2009, 02:49 PM
Must be working its way through the Briar Patch... or maybe Deanna Troy's in command....;)

I think she's enjoying that new Joystick they installed. ;)

Darth Duranium
07-28-2009, 11:31 PM
I think she's enjoying that new Joystick they installed. ;)

Navigatin' the joystick through Troi's Briar Patch... sounds trés saucy, non?

Cardboard Quadrant is too hard to say... like a tongue twister... how about the Cardboard Continuum? Or the Shi' Tee Shipyard of Shame?...:cry: Drydock 'O Death?

I forget... what's in MM Set 2? Is that the Voyager set?

Spectre o'the Phaser
07-29-2009, 12:38 AM
Must be working its way through the Briar Patch...

That's funny you should mention that, DT, my son and I just watched Insurrection for the first time. It occured to me that perhaps I could have been watching a Talibani propaganda film. Nah! But when I saw Worf shouldering that RPG launcher I just about tossed my Rokeg blood pie! I mean, it was 1998 when this film was released, a good 3 years before the events that made infamous the caves of Tora Bora, and here again was the scene by way of Rick Berman Productions. Ah, well... never mind. :whip:

But I couldn't help but wonder what the heck could these people be doing to occupy themselves sitting around in a 300-year+ lifetime... besides breed, that is. In which case you'd figure there had to be more than 600 of 'em, and a lot more kids running around the haystacks; especially in an area of space named, Briar Patch. Ah, well... never mind. I still enjoyed the movie—some nice footage of the Ent. E in action. Three stars out of five! :thumbsup:

Blue2th
07-29-2009, 08:22 AM
Navigatin' the joystick through Troi's Briar Patch... sounds trés saucy, non?

I forget... what's in MM Set 2? Is that the Voyager set?

Ha! When you put it that way, it er.. fits. :)
I always thought that was kind of a cheezy part of Insurrection, the Joystick coming out of the console. Then Geordi mentioning the "Riker meneuver" :rolleyes:
I guess the Enterprise was all CGI by then. Still an enjoyable movie though.

Micro Machines Set II is:

U.S.S. Enterprise NCC-1701-D from "All Good Things"
U.S.S. Pasteur from "All Good Things"
Klingon Battle Cruiser from "All Good Things"
U.S.S. Enterprise NCC-1701-B
U.S.S. Enterprise NCC-1701-D with detachable saucer section
Vulcan Shuttle "Surak"
U.S.S. Grissom
U.S.S Farragut
Federation Space Dock/Station
U.S.S. Defiant
U.S.S. Enterprise NCC-1701-C
U.S.S. Stargazer
Romulan Scout Ship
Shuttle Craft Galileo II
Space Station K-7
Botany Bay

I've already got a few from there I picked up cheap individually, but those will be relegated to the Cardboard Continuum (sounds good :yes:) for possible kit-bashes.

I wish I could have gotten Set III. That's the Voyager and DS9 set, with the movie shuttle in there too. Way expensive these days.

Spectre o'the Phaser
07-29-2009, 08:12 PM
That Klingon BC is a Negh'var class Battleship; kinda rare: http://drexfiles.wordpress.com/2009/03/12/klingon-negh-var-transmission-point-sternbach/

Darth Duranium
07-29-2009, 08:46 PM
I thought that Insurrection was ok... some extra cheese in there (the CGI chipmunk thing & Mambo King Pig-tailed Picard for starters :shocked:)... I always thought it would have been a good TNG episode but it made for a mediocre flick. 3 outta 5 seems reasonable to me.

I thought that Ruffy and the Son'a could have been a lot more menacing... there's no real suspense or sense of danger in the finale, sadly. IMO, Trek had gotten mighty stale by this point... few surprises.

I'd be getting pretty bored with basketweaving and baking bread for 300 years if I lived on that Hippie Rasta planet... and slowing time down would only make things worse.

I think it likely that the Son'a will eventually exterminate the Ba'ku population from orbit (only way to be sure) and then slap up some discos, spas, and shopping centres... make a few spacebucks.

The face-stretching scene reminded me of the movie "Brazil" and Farrah Fawcett's New You Shop from "Logan's Run". :D I thought Ruffy didn't look any worse than Carol Burnette, Mary Tyler Moore, or Joan Rivers do. :D
That ultra-sexy high-gee windtunnel look.

Hey Blue, thanks for listing MM set 2... I now know that I actually have the entire thing, plus all the easy-to-get cheap sets. I got all of them for free from the insides of an AF Death Star that I bought on eBay... a very pleasant surprise. But nothing from the Voyager set, sadly. Nada.
Curiously enough, it was only last week when I spirited these ones back from the Cardboard Continuum and put 'em back onto my small ships shelf:

Klingon Battle Cruiser from "All Good Things"
Vulcan Shuttle "Surak"
Federation Space Dock/Station
Romulan Scout Ship
Space Station K-7
Botany Bay

I've always been particularly fond of the Spacedock, Surak, and Botany Bay. Those listed are the only MMs on my shelf, until something better turns up. I hate MM stands so I put them on WOTC stands from unused ships.

Darth Windu
07-29-2009, 09:43 PM
Personally my favourite STMM is the Keldon-class cruiser. Very nicely detailed (much better than the Galor) and of course quite rare.

Nice deal with the Action fleet Death Star DT! I had something similar a while back when I bought a box of STMM's on ebay for $30-40 dollars that had some, like the Keldon, that I didn't have. Opened it up to find the Keldon, Voyager etc and what else do I find in there? An Enterprise-E :D

Blue2th
07-29-2009, 10:24 PM
Personally my favourite STMM is the Keldon-class cruiser. Very nicely detailed (much better than the Galor) and of course quite rare.

Nice deal with the Action fleet Death Star DT! I had something similar a while back when I bought a box of STMM's on ebay for $30-40 dollars that had some, like the Keldon, that I didn't have. Opened it up to find the Keldon, Voyager etc and what else do I find in there? An Enterprise-E :D

Lucky! (where's the envy smiley face?)
That is a nice one, the Keldon. Only in Collector Set III or in the Star Trek #15 Three pack right?
There's a guy selling one on the bay I mentioned earlier and it has the Keldon-class Cardassian Cruiser. It's also got the uber rare Sisko's B'joran Sailer that didn't come in the Collector Set III. Not sure what the other ship is: http://cgi.ebay.com/Star-Trek-Micro-Machines-Set-15-XV-Mint-In-Box_W0QQitemZ200367825238QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_Def aultDomain_0?hash=item2ea6da6156&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14#ht_2289wt_958

I can't believe the prices for just a MM Enterprise-E loose! :shocked:

Lately I've been putting my micro's right next to and under their larger Furuta, Konami, or F-Toys counterparts. A lot of them are the same color like the Galor and Ferengi ship, so they look cool together.

Darth Duranium
07-30-2009, 03:18 PM
Nice score, DW... I don't really collect MMs but I still covet the Ent E.:D The Keldon is nice... I'd like that whole set, just to have those ships in the collection.

I found a Hallmark Trek Ships group photo... so I revised and updated it... I think they look cool all lit up. Hallmark's getting up there in the number of ships they've done. I'm missing the first Ent (1991) cuz it's too pricey but I've got the rest....

Any guesses for 2011?

NightCastle
07-30-2009, 04:00 PM
Hello guys! This is my first post here. I have read this entire thread (as well as the non-star wars collectible thread) and have been keeping up with it as I have collected my Furutas, F-Toys, Johnny Lightnings and Konamis. Seeing your images of the models has inspired me. Great collections guys!

Just my 2 cents on the Halmarks. They are really nice and I wish I could have gotten them. I may start with the 2010. My guess would be that they might release the new Kelvin for 2011.

Darth Duranium
07-30-2009, 10:58 PM
Hello guys! This is my first post here. I have read this entire thread (as well as the non-star wars collectible thread) and have been keeping up with it as I have collected my Furutas, F-Toys, Johnny Lightnings and Konamis. Seeing your images of the models has inspired me. Great collections guys!

Hey WhiteCastle... gimme a burger, fries... oh sorry, NightCastle! :D Welcome to the forum, dude! Why'd you wait so long to pipe in? :) Glad you've enjoyed our posts... from the number of hits there must be a lot of Trek ship fans lurking out there in the shrubberies. :)

Smoke 'em if you got 'em! Post a pic or 2 of your collection (er, once the SSG forum allows you to) when you get a chance! Judging by the manufacturers you mention, it sounds like you've collected a hefty assortment of Trek ships...:thumbsup: Personally, I like seeing everyone's fleets to see how they've arranged stuff... and I agree: there really are some inspirational collections out there.

It's also the best way to find out about ships you might have missed out on...
Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's starships. Amen.

Yeah, right! :twisted:


Just my 2 cents on the Hallmarks. They are really nice and I wish I could have gotten them. I may start with the 2010. My guess would be that they might release the new Kelvin for 2011.

As you might guess from my avatar, I'd be all over that one... like green on Orion rice.;) A Narada is also possible, I'd think.

Blue2th
07-31-2009, 08:07 AM
I hope Hallmark makes the Kelvin in 2011. Somebody please make one besides BK.

Got my HM Enterprise A yesterday. Unfortunately one of the nacelle struts had separated, which easily put back in it's slot but the lights on the left engine didn't work. She's trying to find me another one, or give me a refund. :ermm:

NightCastle
07-31-2009, 08:28 AM
Smoke 'em if you got 'em! Post a pic or 2 of your collection (er, once the SSG forum allows you to) when you get a chance! Judging by the manufacturers you mention, it sounds like you've collected a hefty assortment of Trek ships...:thumbsup:

I am in the process of reorganizing my office/computer room. I am going to be removing an older computer desk and replacing it with some black book cases that will allow me to better display my ships among other things. Hopefully, they will look nicer with the black background. Right now they are on the hutch of the desk surrounding my Star Trek lunchbox.

By the way, how do you post pictures so that they aren't links?

As you can see, I don't have any of my JL Ships out. That is because I ran out of room. A major part of the reason for my reorganization.

Here are the pics of the ships in their current location.

Darth Duranium
07-31-2009, 02:44 PM
Hopefully, they will look nicer with the black background. Right now they are on the hutch of the desk surrounding my Star Trek lunchbox.

Nice collection! I agree: a dark background really sets 'em off nicely... makes the stands "disappear", to some degree. I built a shelving unit for my fleet and stained it dark blue, almost black... looks aiiight to me anyway.


By the way, how do you post pictures so that they aren't links?

Once you've posted a certain number of posts (not sure how many, but not a lot) you'll be able to add URLS and attach photos to your posts... some forums like RS don't allow this but SSG does.


Here are the pics of the ships in their current location.

Looking forward to seeing your full fleet once it's back together, ready for battle.;) Right now, your JL's must be involved in a flanking maneuver, poised to strike from the Cardboard Continuum.:D

What are you still looking for? Any holy grails?

NightCastle
07-31-2009, 03:07 PM
Actually, I am looking for a Johnny Lightning Enterprise D (minus the cheese, thank you)lol.

I have been considering the Yamato as I loved the D and also loved Starblazers.

Currently, from JL I have a White Lightning TOS Enterprise (all pearly), a Refit with a wonky nacelle, the Excalibur and the Defiant. You know, the renumbered Constitutions. I actually like that they made some of the other TOS Constitution class ships.

Also not shown is my Furuta Defiant, my Furuta KBOP and many other dupes. Oh and my Furuta Ent B.

I beleive I got more than I needed when I got this collection off of that bay place.:thumbsup:

clone157
08-01-2009, 10:59 PM
I have been considering the Yamato as I loved the D and also loved Starblazers.


Have you seen the Cosmos Collection? The have several of the ships in small scale with great display bases. I noticed a Gundam version that I have been keeping an eye on. Anybody else like the flying battleship? Maybe we need another thread for some of the other Gashpon out there.

Darth Duranium
08-02-2009, 09:45 PM
Actually, I am looking for a Johnny Lightning Enterprise D (minus the cheese, thank you)lol.

I have been considering the Yamato as I loved the D and also loved Starblazers.

Currently, from JL I have a White Lightning TOS Enterprise (all pearly), a Refit with a wonky nacelle, the Excalibur and the Defiant. You know, the renumbered Constitutions. I actually like that they made some of the other TOS Constitution class ships.

Agreed... new names and registry numbers rock! You can only own so many Enterprises. JL and Furuta offered some variety.

You might try online retailers in HK, JP, or the UK for the JLs... they don't seem to sell quite so well over there. Those JL Ent-D (Non Nacho Dip) and JL Yamato ships were chump change last year... can't believe how expensive they've gotten this year.

I loved Starblazers! I've got a diecast Bandai Yamato... here's some pics of it cruising with the JL Yamato.:D

If you have lots of dupes, you could post a list and see if anyone's interested in trading. We should all do more of that, y'know.:) Save each other some cash.

I've been getting into kitbashing or repainting my Cardboard Continuum ships... just put a gunmetal-grey basecoat on my totally unloved clear "cloaked" versions of the JL Romulan WB, JL Klingon BC, F-Toys Defiant (now it's the USS Monitor), and Romando KBoP. Big improvement already.

Not real sure where I'm going from here paint-wise, but at least they're outta the box. Paint/deco suggestions welcome...

Anybody recognize the ship next to the JL NX? :cross-eye Clue: No guinea pigs in this outfit.


Have you seen the Cosmos Collection? The have several of the ships in small scale with great display bases. I noticed a Gundam version that I have been keeping an eye on. Anybody else like the flying battleship? Maybe we need another thread for some of the other Gashpon out there.

I've got a few different SB gashapon ships from the Megahouse set but I grew annoyed with buying the same green Gamilon ship (unmarked boxes) over and over again. Gave up early and never did find a small Yamato... maybe I'll grab one off eBay someday.

I am seriously thinking about that Cosmo set... thanks for the head's up. That "Supersize Battleship" is especially awesome.

NightCastle
08-03-2009, 08:13 AM
That Argo or Space Battleship Yamato is awesome!





Anybody recognize the ship next to the JL NX? :cross-eye Clue: No guinea pigs in this outfit.


Isn't it the ship that could turn into a phoenix from G-Force? The original Anime, not that new guinea pig movie.

That is cool that you have it. I used to love watching that as well as the ship. Who makes it?

Darth Duranium
08-03-2009, 07:37 PM
That Argo or Space Battleship Yamato is awesome!

I like it a lot... a seriously heavy piece of diecast metal. I imagine that there'll be a lot more Yamato/Argo stuff coming out, if they make a live-action flick. Could be cool...


Isn't it the ship that could turn into a phoenix from G-Force? The original Anime, not that new guinea pig movie.

That is cool that you have it. I used to love watching that as well as the ship. Who makes it?

Yep :thumbsup:, it's the Phoenix (or "God Phoenix" in JP) from Battle of the Planets/Gatchaman/G-Force... it came with the Tiny figure... see pic.

It annoys me (a bit) that the guinea pig movie had the same name.:D Plus, there's a new G-Force project in the works with Alex Ross at the helm!

Spectre o'the Phaser
08-03-2009, 10:42 PM
I do believe I've just found the Holy Grail of all ships ugly: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250454496701&ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:US:1123

In the words of our great California Governator: it is 'one ugly mother #%$#@!' :D

On the other hand, the Corgi BoP that I just got is the bees' knees!! Awesome model! Will look in pretty good scale next to the Bandai Ent 1701 and NX—once these are out of space dock, er... out of the box, I mean, and in one piece.

NightCastle
08-04-2009, 08:27 AM
I do believe I've just found the Holy Grail of all ships ugly: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250454496701&ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:US:1123

In the words of our great California Governator: it is 'one ugly mother #%$#@!' :D



Yeah, but it has a "ONE YEAR MONEY BACK WARRANTY", its "PRECISION MADE" (laughable), "SAFETY TESTED", and has "NON-TOXIC PAINTS". All for only $19.95. A REAL BARGAIN!!!:D

NightCastle
08-04-2009, 08:29 AM
It annoys me (a bit) that the guinea pig movie had the same name.:D

That has bugged me too.


Plus, there's a new G-Force project in the works with Alex Ross at the helm!

I was unaware. That would be cool!

Blue2th
08-04-2009, 10:54 AM
I do believe I've just found the Holy Grail of all ships ugly: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250454496701&ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:US:1123

In the words of our great California Governator: it is 'one ugly mother #%$#@!' :D

On the other hand, the Corgi BoP that I just got is the bees' knees!! Awesome model! Will look in pretty good scale next to the Bandai Ent 1701 and NX—once these are out of space dock, er... out of the box, I mean, and in one piece.

...err nice :rolleyes:
I recently found a couple of my old die-cast Ertyl's. The large Next Generation Enterprise D, Enterprise A, and BOP from Undiscovered Country. By today's standards pretty cheeeeeezy.
But hey they were ships and some of the first ones I bought. Still on the delapidated cards.

Isn't that BOP cool! :thumbsup: You could have gotten a whole squadron at that price.

I just noticed that the Konami Klingon Battle Cruiser is the same relative scale to the Hot Wheels Star Trek ships, well next to my Reliant anyways.
So I guess I need to get the HW Enterprise for a little adversarial face off. :Ponder:
If I could find one with a halfway straight saucer section.


BTW: Welcome NightCastle!

NightCastle
08-04-2009, 11:07 AM
BTW: Welcome NightCastle!

Thanks! I have definitely enjoyed all of the cool ships you guys have shown, the funny banter about wessels and the interesting ship artwork I have seen on these two non-StarWars related threads.

Darth Duranium
08-04-2009, 03:02 PM
Yeah, but it has a "ONE YEAR MONEY BACK WARRANTY", its "PRECISION MADE" (laughable), "SAFETY TESTED", and has "NON-TOXIC PAINTS". All for only $19.95. A REAL BARGAIN!!!:D

Should've added PRECISION CRUSHED NACELLES and SAFELY NON-ACCURATE PAINT to it, too.:D



...err nice :rolleyes:
I recently found a couple of my old die-cast Ertyl's. The large Next Generation Enterprise D, Enterprise A, and BOP from Undiscovered Country. By today's standards pretty cheeeeeezy.
But hey they were ships and some of the first ones I bought. Still on the delapidated cards.

I've got them Ertls (loose), too... hard to bring 'em back from Cardboard Continuum... but as you point out, for a long time that's all there was.

I've always thought that the royal blue Corgi Klingon BC with the big yellow K (for Klingon!) on the wings deserved a special "Extra Mozzarella" shout-out.:thumbsup:



So I guess I need to get the HW Enterprise for a little adversarial face off. :Ponder:
If I could find one with a halfway straight saucer section.

I'm still passing on the HWs... I have a crazy hunch that the whole set will end up extremely cheap in the days to come. The HW BoP seems to be selling fairly well on eBay but I'd definitely go for the Corgi first, thanks to everyone's pics. It's Corgi by a landslide, IMO.

How tall is the Corgi BoP when it's on the stand? I'm hoping under 5 inches...

Blue, I'm not sure if the HW SDCC "Spacedock" Refit is any better... the saucer looks bent on it, too. How crap is that? :thumbsup:

Spectre o'the Phaser
08-04-2009, 03:13 PM
How tall is the Corgi BoP when it's on the stand? I'm hoping under 5 inches...


Between 2 1/2 and 2 5/8 in. :thumbsup:

Darth Duranium
08-04-2009, 03:17 PM
Thanks Spec... does that include the height of the stand?

Blue2th
08-04-2009, 06:39 PM
Blue, I'm not sure if the HW SDCC "Spacedock" Refit is any better... the saucer looks bent on it, too. How crap is that? :thumbsup:

JT would know, he bought one.
I went out looking at them again today and decided that maybe I could live with the wonky way the saucer points upward towards the front, but after looking at it in the bow to stern view, the nacelles don't even line up, and one is higher than the other. That is unacceptable. Unless somebody has stated that they are easy to "bend" back in place, I don't know if I'll ever get one because I don't see it as a salvageable situation.

I got nothing but overall good things to say about the Reliant though. It's done relatively well, and is the gem of the bunch.

I hope the Enterprise 09' doesn't have too many issues.

That KBC is nostalgic but cheeeezy man!

Spectre o'the Phaser
08-04-2009, 09:20 PM
Thanks Spec... does that include the height of the stand?

Yeah, it does.

Darth Duranium
08-04-2009, 10:35 PM
I hope the Enterprise 09' doesn't have too many issues.

That KBC is nostalgic but cheeeezy man!

Hey, I like the new avatar! Is that a warp core breach or maybe a tribute to the end of All Good Things? Maybe the Reggae Sunsplash Enterprise, mon. Once again, cool lighting.:thumbsup:

I might grab a HW Reliant... hard to resist for $6, which they're selling for on eBay. But it's not a priority cuz I've already got 6 JL-sized Reliants...

The 2009 Ent looks surprisingly nice in profile in the package at SDCC... not so impressive from the front, though. At least the saucer angle looks ok on it...

The sculpting's actually not too bad on the old Corgi KBC... not so sure 'bout the deco.



Yeah, it does.

Thanks again... I'm pleasantly surprised that it sits so low... the Corgi Ent's about 3.5" tall on the stand.

Well, that's it... no excuses left for not getting one... it'll fit nicely on my shelf!

Spectre o'the Phaser
08-04-2009, 11:42 PM
I might grab a HW Reliant... hard to resist for $6, which they're selling for on eBay. But it's not a priority cuz I've already got 6 JL-sized Reliants...


I've seen the HW Reliant at the TFAW (Things From Another World) at Universal City Walk and it's not bad... for a HW. But I'll stick with the JL. I think it's pretty hard to beat from what I've seen.

And speaking of hard to beat, I just got my JL Series 2 Refit from Ebay and it rocks my world! Man, this thing is truly amazing! I thought the F-Toys was pretty good but the JL blows it clear out of the maelstrom. I don't think pictures do this thing justice. The combination of sculpt, detail and paint is just impossible for this scale! (Too bad the JL Series 1 TOS Ent is not up to par.) And the nacelles are level and not cross-eyed, to boot! Life is good! R.I.P., F-Toys 1701 Refit... :sleeping:

NightCastle
08-05-2009, 11:54 AM
And speaking of hard to beat, I just got my JL Series 2 Refit from Ebay and it rocks my world! Man, this thing is truly amazing! I thought the F-Toys was pretty good but the JL blows it clear out of the maelstrom. I don't think pictures do this thing justice. The combination of sculpt, detail and paint is just impossible for this scale! (Too bad the JL Series 1 TOS Ent is not up to par.) And the nacelles are level and not cross-eyed, to boot! Life is good! R.I.P., F-Toys 1701 Refit... :sleeping:

I got a JL Refit and it had one nacelle that was tilted, which ruined it for me. It is good to know that it was a singular problem. Congrats on a good model!!

Blue2th
08-05-2009, 12:18 PM
And speaking of hard to beat, I just got my JL Series 2 Refit from Ebay and it rocks my world! Man, this thing is truly amazing! I thought the F-Toys was pretty good but the JL blows it clear out of the maelstrom. I don't think pictures do this thing justice. The combination of sculpt, detail and paint is just impossible for this scale! (Too bad the JL Series 1 TOS Ent is not up to par.) And the nacelles are level and not cross-eyed, to boot! Life is good! R.I.P., F-Toys 1701 Refit... :sleeping:

That's my favorite one! I haven't found one overall that beats it. It's like a treasure to me. :love: though the sculpted panel lines on the saucer are a little too deep, I can live with that as it's so sweet.

Now you could get the Enterprise A which is the same sculpt, but has a pearlescent azteking pattern to it. The only thing that's a minus is the "simulated photon torpedo" red thing sticking out. It is removable, but you gotta watch out you don't take some of the launcher with it, or some paint which I did, but it's well worth having.
I think the JL Refit and A are climbing in price lately though. There's a Battle Damaged one but it's meh.

Darth Duranium
08-05-2009, 05:05 PM
Nice buy, Spec... yeah, the JL refit's suh-weet... I still like the F-Toys sculpting a titch better (especially around the deflector) but JL's paint is far superior. They even got the launchers right, unlike everyone else except HM.

I never got a bent JL, NC... just a bent Konami Reliant. I did get a JL shuttle that's marked Galileo II on the sides and Columbus on the front, though I'm not complaining. Maybe you can try the Ole Vulcan hot/cold bending technique to fix your refit.

Agreed Blue... the aztecing on the 1701-A really spruces up the refit's saucer. JL's is way better than Konami's, IMHO.

Didn't have any issues removing the throbbing love missiles... er, "photon torpedoes/phasers" from the JLs... just need to be very gentle and you won't take the paint with 'em.
Don't know what the hell JL was thinkin' when they added those...

Shame JL cancelled some of the ships they were planning and instead regurgitated the tools they had already released. Think I'll go off and sob into a Romulan Ale...:D

Spectre o'the Phaser
08-05-2009, 10:57 PM
Now you could get the Enterprise A which is the same sculpt, but has a pearlescent azteking pattern to it. ...

I think the JL Refit and A are climbing in price lately though. There's a Battle Damaged one but it's meh.

Shazam!! You mean JL made another like the refit only better!? Aztecing, you say? I'm on the prowl as we drool! Just checked and at the moment there is absolutely not a single JL 1701-A on the bay. :( But as they say, the hunt is half the fun....



I never got a bent JL, NC... just a bent Konami Reliant. I did get a JL shuttle that's marked Galileo II on the sides and Columbus on the front, though I'm not complaining. Maybe you can try the Ole Vulcan hot/cold bending technique to fix your refit.

Tried that on my JL TOS and broke the bleeping nacelle right off! Super-glued it back on—straighter—but the break is apparent. Had that been my precious Refit I would have cried like a baby. Must not know how to do the thing correctly.



Don't know what the hell JL was thinkin' when they added those [love missiles]...

My sentiments exactly.:mad:

Darth Duranium
08-06-2009, 01:24 AM
You mean JL made another like the refit only better!? Aztecing, you say? I'm on the prowl as we drool! Just checked and at the moment there is absolutely not a single JL 1701-A on the bay. :( But as they say, the hunt is half the fun....

Had a pic on the HD, Spec... you can just make out the aztecing on the JL 1701-A...

Just bask in the glory of them non-warped nacelles! Mwa-ha-ha!

Y'know Spec, I've never actually tried the OV Hot/Cold Rebending Technique... I would imagine that it could get kinda dodgy with rigid plastic. Take it easy extracting those torpedoes, dude... you'll be aiiiight.

Good hunting!

Blue2th
08-08-2009, 09:43 AM
Got my Star Trek Micro Machines deluxe set 2 yesterday. :thumbsup:

Don't know if I'll ever get set 3. The last one I watched went for $150. :cry:
I'll keep watching whatever comes up though.

There hasn't been hardly any JL ships on the bay for quite a while except the newer repaint waves. Think I'll get the destroyed Enterprise eventually if I can get it for a good deal, but everything else from the later waves is meh, and I don't need a Yamato, which is the only other one I'd consider.

I think the selection of everything (I want) has gone down there lately, but ebay has been sucking for sellers from what I've been reading lately so it's understandable why.

clone157
08-09-2009, 08:58 PM
Hey guys, just got my Furuta Ent-b, like 2 weeks ago. I have been killing myself trying to decide if I should try to make a custom ship. If you invert the nacelles and their arms you can center it toward the rear of the saucer section making a Reliant type vessel for the new era AK (After Kirk, pre Next Gen). I have never made a custom before and was wondering if anyone has tried it. Now I want to rebuy series 2 and see if anymore can be done.

Blue2th
08-09-2009, 09:27 PM
Got any reference pics of something like that? It would be interesting to see.
I might do something with my Konami B as the secondary hull is all warped anyways.

I still want to make a Bozeman out of my broken Konami Reliant.

I've got my Furuta TOS Enterprise in pieces, and have been trying to figure out something to make a Kelvin by turning it upside down. Though the saucer has a slightly different bridge section and a bigger saucer, as well as the one lower nacelle is longer, but I think I can use the secondary hull with the nice Furuta deflector dish and some shaping, a bigger saucer from another ship, maybe one of the Konami Refits. Just got to come up with a longer TOS nacelle though, or make the secondary hull somehow smaller to compensate for the other smaller parts. Shorten the struts too.
I don't know but it looks cool just eyeballing it. The possibilities are there.

wawe1
08-09-2009, 09:51 PM
Can anyone recommend any good sites to purchase the small scale ships from?

Thanks!

Blue2th
08-09-2009, 10:12 PM
Can anyone recommend any good sites to purchase the small scale ships from?

Thanks!
Most of us get ours off ebay, as they are no longer in production except for the F-Toys set, which is still cheap enough. Though you can still get a lot of Furuta ships fairly cheap there also, and they are long out of production.

If anybody's got them on a site, I can almost say for sure they want more for them than what you would pay in an auction or even a "buy it now" on ebay. Though you could try Amazon.

Spectre o'the Phaser
08-10-2009, 12:39 AM
Most of us get ours off ebay, as they are no longer in production except for the F-Toys set, which is still cheap enough. Though you can still get a lot of Furuta ships fairly cheap there also, and they are long out of production.

If anybody's got them on a site, I can almost say for sure they want more for them than what you would pay in an auction or even a "buy it now" on ebay. Though you could try Amazon.

I've found Ebay to have the best buys by far. Amazon is not cheap when it comes to many "toys." In fact there are at least two Ebay sellers that I know who sell ST ships on Amazon as well on Ebay, and they charge more on Amazon for the same exact ships that they sell with a Buy-it-now on Ebay. You'd think that by now, everybody and their mothers would be privy to both sites. Riddle me that... man! :lipsrsealed:

wawe1
08-10-2009, 02:28 AM
Thanks for the info!

Darth Duranium
08-10-2009, 02:43 AM
Got my Star Trek Micro Machines deluxe set 2 yesterday. :thumbsup:

Don't know if I'll ever get set 3. The last one I watched went for $150. :cry:
I'll keep watching whatever comes up though.

There hasn't been hardly any JL ships on the bay for quite a while except the newer repaint waves. Think I'll get the destroyed Enterprise eventually if I can get it for a good deal, but everything else from the later waves is meh, and I don't need a Yamato, which is the only other one I'd consider.

I think the selection of everything (I want) has gone down there lately, but ebay has been sucking for sellers from what I've been reading lately so it's understandable why.

Nice one, Blue! :thumbsup: I like Set 2… the only MMs I still display… but I really wish I’d grabbed Set 3 back when they were more sanely priced on eBay (like, $50-60). :mad: I will never pay $150 for that set.

My problem isn’t with eBay… I have almost everything I want. I see the lack of new small ships from toy manufacturers as the biggest problem. It sucks that Titanium and JL are the latest casualties. :cry: HW looks stillborn, too.

I’ve got the toasted JL Refit but I’m not that enthralled with it, to be honest. Easily skipped, like their TOS Defiant. I do recommend the Yamato (Hai!) and Majestic (Captain Chuck Bronson?), and the Excalibur’s really nicely done (even if “distributed by a watery tart”). :D


… I have never made a custom before and was wondering if anyone has tried it. Now I want to rebuy series 2 and see if anymore can be done.

Done a few customs, resin ships, and repaints but I haven’t gotten around to a true Trek kitbash yet. Still, I’d recommend using a Dremel tool (very sparingly) and a fine nailfile for modding parts, and very small amounts of 2-step epoxy (dries fast and clear, can be done over if parts don’t set right) to hold it all together. Tamiya Putty's good for filling parts. I try to brush-paint as little as possible, and use ultra-light coats of spray paint and super-thin Tamiya modelling tape (to mask parts off) whenever I can.
Decals (or lack thereof) are always the biggest pain in the arse for me. You can buy saucer grids and customizable registry and detailing decals at federationmodels.com, if you’re pimped out rich. I have not done so yet... cuz I ain't.
Don’t forget that altering your nacelles etc. will likely mean the ship’s centre of gravity/ balance point will change… you might have to drill out a new hole (and fill the old one) for the stand or it’ll topple over.:hurt:


Got any reference pics of something like that? It would be interesting to see.
I might do something with my Konami B as the secondary hull is all warped anyways.

I still want to make a Bozeman out of my broken Konami Reliant.

I've got my Furuta TOS Enterprise in pieces, and have been trying to figure out something to make a Kelvin by turning it upside down. Though the saucer has a slightly different bridge section and a bigger saucer, as well as the one lower nacelle is longer, but I think I can use the secondary hull with the nice Furuta deflector dish and some shaping, a bigger saucer from another ship, maybe one of the Konami Refits. Just got to come up with a longer TOS nacelle though, or make the secondary hull somehow smaller to compensate for the other smaller parts. Shorten the struts too.
I don't know but it looks cool just eyeballing it. The possibilities are there.

Guess we’re all jonesing for new ships! :ninja: Guess we’ll have to make ‘em ourselves.

A Soyuz would be awesome… I love the bigass turrets. I do like the Saratoga & Bozeman, too… hope HW gets it right with the side-mounted nubby things.

The BK Kelvin’s nacelle will be pretty good once the “neck” is thinned… that’s what I planned on using…. along with some model parts: the saucer from a TOS Ent and the secondary hull from a refit. I think that the shuttle bay will have to be flipped, somehow.

Did you see the ref pics of the Kelvin that I reposted earlier?
The “ribbing” on the “neck's” hull will be hard to replicate, methinks. And what to use for hull-mounted phasers?

I have so many other semi-finished ships on the go that I’m gonna wait a while… c’mon Mattel!:whip:


Can anyone recommend any good sites to purchase the small scale ships from?

Thanks!

I used eBay for about 80% of my collection… a few things didn’t arrive but I’ve always gotten my cash back on those ultra-rare occasions. Shop around and always be patient… to me, eBay is a war of attrition, not a frontal assault. You can score some amazing deals if you're serene like a Hindu cow.


I've found Ebay to have the best buys by far. Amazon is not cheap when it comes to many "toys." In fact there are at least two Ebay sellers that I know who sell ST ships on Amazon as well on Ebay, and they charge more on Amazon for the same exact ships that they sell with a Buy-it-now on Ebay. You'd think that by now, everybody and their mothers would be privy to both sites. Riddle me that... man! :lipsrsealed:

Outside of the US, Amazon is utter crap for anything except books. Complete Craporama.:yes:

Blue2th
08-10-2009, 09:14 AM
Guess we’re all jonesing for new ships! :ninja: Guess we’ll have to make ‘em ourselves.

A Soyuz would be awesome… I love the bigass turrets. I do like the Saratoga & Bozeman, too… hope HW gets it right with the side-mounted nubby things.

The BK Kelvin’s nacelle will be pretty good once the “neck” is thinned… that’s what I planned on using…. along with some model parts: the saucer from a TOS Ent and the secondary hull from a refit. I think that the shuttle bay will have to be flipped, somehow.

Did you see the ref pics of the Kelvin that I reposted earlier?
The “ribbing” on the “neck's” hull will be hard to replicate, methinks. And what to use for hull-mounted phasers?

I have so many other semi-finished ships on the go that I’m gonna wait a while… c’mon Mattel!:whip:






Yeah, the Bozeman is a cool mod if it can be pulled off. I guess it had 4 phaser turrets!
http://legacy.filefront.com/screenshots/File/81419/6

Is the Saratoga any different from the Reliant? Somehow I think it's just going to be a repaint, but it would be nice if HW decided to do some little differences if called for other than putting a different name on the Reliant sculpt.

I think the "neck" on the Kelvin shouldn't be too hard if you layer or sandwitch some pieces together.
The only problem with using a Refit secondary hull is they don't have the old protruding deflector dish like the TOS Enterprise and Kelvin.

I don't know what to do about the hull mounted phase cannons, maybe just some little black dots? :)
I used those pics you posted as a reference, thanks! :thumbsup:

Darth Duranium
08-11-2009, 10:22 PM
Yeah, the Bozeman is a cool mod if it can be pulled off. I guess it had 4 phaser turrets!
http://legacy.filefront.com/screenshots/File/81419/6 .

I’ve got a turbolaser from an old AMC Millennium Falcon model (it splits into two 2-barrelled guns)… might work as the phaser turrets, once modded. Cool pic… didn’t realise that the back end was so completely different. And the shuttlebays read 1,3,2 from left to right… should they?


Is the Saratoga any different from the Reliant? Somehow I think it's just going to be a repaint, but it would be nice if HW decided to do some little differences if called for other than putting a different name on the Reliant sculpt.

Depends on which Saratoga, I guess. There are a few, apparently. The Romando Saratoga has the side nubbies, no rollbar.

I suspect you’re on the money about the HW repaint.


I think the "neck" on the Kelvin shouldn't be too hard if you layer or sandwich some pieces together.
The only problem with using a Refit secondary hull is they don't have the old protruding deflector dish like the TOS Enterprise and Kelvin.

Yep, could layer thin strips of plastic to make a spine for the neck… depends on how much skill one has at that scale. I think it’ll be kinda tricksy.

I’ve got a few old cannibalised model parts so another deflector dish wouldn’t be too hard to find… but you’re sayin’ that you think the TOS saucer’s closer? Hmmmmm…. Will think some more on it.

The Ole Kelver does have a very thin, flattened out saucer, too.


I don't know what to do about the hull mounted phase cannons, maybe just some little black dots? :)

They’d sure be mighty small at JL scale. Dead fleas?

[QUOTE=Blue2th;690992]I used those pics you posted as a reference, thanks! :thumbsup:

Cool. Here’s a few more… check out that deflector…

Darth Duranium
08-11-2009, 10:29 PM
The rest...

Blue2th
08-12-2009, 01:53 AM
Thanks DT. It's kinda hard to tell what's going on there in the action shots.
I thought it was these you posted a while back:

Blue2th
08-12-2009, 01:54 AM
Here's some more from the same place:

Blue2th
08-12-2009, 01:59 AM
Found some profile pics:

Blue2th
08-12-2009, 02:01 AM
The rest of em:

NightCastle
08-12-2009, 08:20 AM
Hey Blue2th could these help?

Blue2th
08-12-2009, 09:40 AM
Hey Blue2th could these help?

Nice close ups of the karayoke cruiser too!
It's all good thanguverymuch. :thumbsup:

NightCastle
08-12-2009, 09:48 AM
Nice close ups of the karayoke cruiser too!
It's all good thanguverymuch. :thumbsup:

There are more of the Karaoke-prise where that came from. If you like.

Just a few:

Blue2th
08-12-2009, 10:21 AM
Sweet! Looks like those are from the same source as those Kelvin wallpaper pics.
The Enterprise XI is like the Edsel of Star Trek. :yes:

I was noticing the deflector dish is almost the same as the Kelvin, but minus the little peg in the middle. Wonder why it glows white in some pics and blue in others on the Kelvin?

If you turn the Furuta TOS Enterprise's secondary hull upside down, you get the lower cut out to use for the Kelvin shuttle bay area already there, which is not as pronounced as the Refit, plus the little ridge which was already there on the TOS hull bottom on top. Not to mention a slot already there where the strut connects to the saucer, now to use on the bottom of the secondary hull.
I think it's workable for that section anyways, with a minimum of carvage.

Darth Duranium
08-14-2009, 06:05 AM
Yeah, I posted the rest of those captures because there's nothing official out there. The first ones were clearer.

Must think on this some more...

Be careful... some of the pics that you guys posted are renders that were done before the movie came out, so the ship that's portrayed is not necessarily accurate to what we saw in the flick or "official". But now that I've looked again, they are pretty close.

They are kewl....:D

Spectre o'the Phaser
08-17-2009, 12:40 AM
DT, I likes the new avatar. Smells of Albert R. Broccoli. Your design?

OK, so which Borg Cube is the best? I'd much prefer a larger scale cube but not at the cost of quality.

Darth Duranium
08-17-2009, 05:32 PM
DT, I likes the new avatar. Smells of Albert R. Broccoli. Your design?

OK, so which Borg Cube is the best? I'd much prefer a larger scale cube but not at the cost of quality.

Thanks, Spec... yep, it's my Double-O Kelvin :D... I was hoping the gunbarrel still looked Bond-like after I messed about with it… guess it worked out ok!

The only large-scale cube and sphere I have are the mediocre Playmates ones... I posted a few pics further back in the thread. Meh just about says it all.

As for small-scale, I’d probably go with the JL cube with the mini sphere as my top choice… though the light-up Furuta cube and accompanying sphere are neat-o and somewhat rare. I like the Hallmark, too. Here’s a pic:

BTW, here’s a few pics of my Defiants… I took a page out of DW’s book and painted the nacelle fronts red on all 3. The darker silvery Defiant (USS Monitor/Enterprise) used to be the cloaked F-Toys version… still a work in progress but you get the idea.

Also BTW, I checked out the store that had the Bandai Voyager... sorry, no dice, Spec... it's gone. There's one other place that I'll check the next time I'm in the area... I might be mixed up about which store had it in the first place. Will advise...

Last point: I picked up the Konami BoP for $12 over the weekend... I might have to wait a while as it's coming from Oz but I'm quite pleased with myself, considering that some are scalping it for $60+.:thumbsup: Still trying to find the Corgi cheaply, too... don't want to pay $15.:D

clone157
08-19-2009, 09:41 PM
though the light-up Furuta cube and accompanying sphere are neat-o and somewhat rare.

Man, I have a local comic store with 10 on the shelf for $12 a pop at last check.

NightCastle
08-20-2009, 01:59 PM
For anyone needing some JL stuff, there is a store on that "Bay" place that is selling series 4 (6 ships*) for only 37.95.

*The ships are (in case some of you are not aware):

USS Enterprise NCC-1701-A (seems to be pretty hard to find for a decent price lately)
USS Majestic NCC-31060 (seems to be pretty hard to find for a decent price lately)
USS Defiant Ncc-1764
Borg Cube with Sphere
USS Enterprise NCC-1701-D (in all its cheesy goodness)
USS Voyager NCC-74656 (seems to be pretty hard to find for a decent price lately)

Spectre o'the Phaser
08-20-2009, 03:47 PM
For anyone needing some JL stuff, there is a store on that "Bay" place that is selling series 4 (6 ships*) for only 37.95.

*The ships are (in case some of you are not aware):

USS Enterprise NCC-1701-A (seems to be pretty hard to find for a decent price lately)
USS Majestic NCC-31060 (seems to be pretty hard to find for a decent price lately)
USS Defiant Ncc-1764
Borg Cube with Sphere
USS Enterprise NCC-1701-D (in all its cheesy goodness)
USS Voyager NCC-74656 (seems to be pretty hard to find for a decent price lately)

Thanks, that's debatably a pretty good deal these days. Bur the only ships from this set that I'm interested in are the Borgs and the 1701-A. The 1701-D would be great without the cheese. :sad:

Darth Windu
08-21-2009, 01:05 AM
I'd buy the Voyager

Darth Duranium
08-21-2009, 01:29 AM
dupe post...

Darth Duranium
08-21-2009, 01:34 AM
Man, I have a local comic store with 10 on the shelf for $12 a pop at last check.

I think that's about what I paid a few years ago... but they were always scarce on eBay. Used to see them for sale for $40+....


I'd buy the Voyager

I think it's the one with the landing struts...

I just looked on eBay and was shocked to see how few JL items there were for sale... though that could have something to do with the new seller rules.

NightCastle
08-23-2009, 04:13 PM
I think it's the one with the landing struts...

Yes. That's the one.


I just looked on eBay and was shocked to see how few JL items there were for sale... though that could have something to do with the new seller rules.

Yeah, its kind of sad.

Darth Duranium
08-23-2009, 10:02 PM
I picked up the novelization of Star Trek XI (written by Alan Dean Foster... not bad, btw) and thought I'd pass this on:

Starfleet ships lost at Vulcan:

USS Armstrong
USS Newton
USS Mayflower
USS Excelsior
USS Defiant (the Enterprise nearly hits it coming out of warp at Vulcan)

Dunno which one's which... and there ain't much left of the shredded Defiant... hard to say how it looked intact.
BTW, I thought the shots of the Enterprise maneuvering through the debris were awesome... and I like the maneuvering jets on the hull. Very BSG.

Curiously, the Farragut's not mentioned, and the book says there's 5 ships (besides the Ent) in the posse.

In the novel, Pike orders an "Emergency Stop" so the Ent can send a clear message to the (at-warp) fleet... but interference makes it impossible. Shortly thereafter, the crew watches the fleet disappear one-by-one on a display (5 blue dots wink out) as they continue their warp to Vulcan...

And Admiral Archer's beagle materializes onto a transporter pad at the very end of the story.

Darth Duranium
08-31-2009, 08:01 PM
Thought this would be the better thread to post these in... gets confusing.:cross-eye

Anyhoo, here's some comparison shots and closeups of the K-BoPs for your consideration. Forgot the ERTL but it's really no BFD, I'm sure you'll all agree.:D

Which is the leader of the pack? This one's a toughie... between Corgi, Furuta, and Konami I'd say.

If I had to choose the best K-BoP at disruptor-point, I'd pick the Konami, I guess. It's got very nice sculpting and detail, and realistic if minimalist paint... but I could be easily talked out of it.

I'm thinkin' that the Corgi's great but it's a bit too dark/forest green, IMO... and the Furuta's sculpt ain't near as nice as Konami's though their paint's good.

So whadda youze guys think?

Darth Duranium
08-31-2009, 08:03 PM
The rest...

Spectre o'the Phaser
08-31-2009, 08:11 PM
Thanks, DT! Hard to tell from the pics cause one can't see the detail up close. I'll spend more time later looking at them. Can't at the moment... still busy at work.

I only have the Corgi KBoP and I'm blown away with it. The color does seem dark, though.

Blue2th
08-31-2009, 08:24 PM
I'm going with the Corgi. Even though it's a little dark, I can live with that.
The Konami is better than the Furuta in detail, but not in paint, but detail edges out paint this time.
I still want one.
That Enesco is kinda cool with the desert camo tan. Are those still available?

Is one of those Micro machines the Bounty with folding wings? $$$

Darth Duranium
08-31-2009, 09:20 PM
Spec, there's a few more K-BoP pics from Blue and I starting at post 250 in the Trek Ships thread... and I can post more pics if you want more closeups.

Besides the ERTL, I forgot the Innerspace and the Strike Force versions. Oops.

I have no idea where to get the Enesco, Blue... never seen one on eBay. It's actually more pea-green than tan, but it is quite different from the rest.Sadly, both of my MMs have fixed wings.

I really like the disruptor cannons on the Corgi. The tremendous use of paint detail really helps it to look larger than it is... and the tool is so frickin' sharp... damn, it's hard to decide.

I was thinking that the Konami looks closest to what we saw onscreen... but does that really make it best? Diecast is important, too. Hmmmmm....

Darth Duranium
09-05-2009, 07:20 AM
Here's a pic of the K-BoP from the Christie's auction, along with a bunch more reference shots of the other shooting models that Paramount sold.

The price that they sold for (in US dollars) is in the pic name.

¡Ay, caramba!

Darth Duranium
09-05-2009, 07:23 AM
Some more...

Darth Duranium
09-05-2009, 07:26 AM
More more...

Darth Duranium
09-05-2009, 07:28 AM
Even more...

Darth Duranium
09-05-2009, 07:31 AM
Last ones. Enjoy!

Darth Windu
09-06-2009, 06:02 AM
The only thing I bid on for that auction was the 'First Contact' Ent-E dedication plaque. Went for way more than I was willing to spend :cry:

Blue2th
09-06-2009, 09:43 AM
They wanted to make money off these by auctioning them off, but in my mind all of those ships and props should have been put into one great Star Trek museum.

They are like priceless artifacts, and a part of modern history that everyone should be able to enjoy up close. Even a part of the Smithsonian would have been appropriate.
I personally would rather see a complete collection of these and other props than go see a King Tut exhibit.

They don't make models of these ships anymore when all of them now are done in CGI.

Spectre o'the Phaser
09-06-2009, 03:00 PM
They wanted to make money off these by auctioning them off, but in my mind all of those ships and props should have been put into one great Star Trek museum.

They are like priceless artifacts, and a part of modern history that everyone should be able to enjoy up close. Even a part of the Smithsonian would have been appropriate.
I personally would rather see a complete collection of these and other props than go see a King Tut exhibit.

They don't make models of these ships anymore when all of them now are done in CGI.

It would be nice to have these in a museum of some sort, but considering how much money they brought in I can't much blame them for selling them. Unbelievable.

Darth Duranium
09-07-2009, 01:56 PM
They wanted to make money off these by auctioning them off, but in my mind all of those ships and props should have been put into one great Star Trek museum.

They are like priceless artifacts, and a part of modern history that everyone should be able to enjoy up close. Even a part of the Smithsonian would have been appropriate.
I personally would rather see a complete collection of these and other props than go see a King Tut exhibit.

Agreed on all points, Blue... instead they'll be sitting in some rich guys' houses.:upset: Sadly, I'm not one of them rich guys who had half a million for an Ent D. I noticed there was no Ent E in the auction.... curious. I thought they built a model.

I guess that Paramount figures that the death of the ST Experience and the touring exhibitions signalled that it was time to flog 'em for cash. I would have thought that selling them after Trek XI came out would have netted even more... there's been a huge jump in prices ever since. I think they did ok... everything sold for prices way above their estimates.

It is a shame that commerce trumps all other considerations. Thank you corporations!

Darth Windu
09-07-2009, 08:56 PM
Actually there was an Ent-E model sold, it was the 7 or 8 foot model built by ILM for First Contact. Always had a thing for that model... :(

Blue2th
09-07-2009, 11:11 PM
Actually there was an Ent-E model sold, it was the 7 or 8 foot model built by ILM for First Contact. Always had a thing for that model... :(

Did a search, first results were this!

http://startrekauction.blogspot.com/2008/07/original-enterprise-e-model-on-ebay.html

Darth Windu
09-08-2009, 05:39 AM
Wow! Fantastic piece of work, really do hope it can go into some sort of public exhibition.

Darth Duranium
09-09-2009, 08:48 PM
The E is just amazing... such a great looking ship... thanks for the link, Blue. $100K was good price, I'm thinkin'. I guess Christie's took it off their site due to the sale issues...or I just missed it.:ninja:

Looking at the front-on shot of the E's primary hull, I was thinking that it looks a bit more chunky and muscular than in any of the reproductions I've seen. Wonder if it's got a yacht?

The USS Yeager (-Meister?) looks like a straight kitbash of a Voyager front with a Maquis Raider back stuck on... but the Jenolin looks like a TOS tricorder with a couple of nacelles stuck on. :D

The AGT Klingon BC doesn't impress me much... I think it looks a bit bloated and clumsy... maybe it looks better from other angles. Didn't realise that the Romulan WB and Scout were so grey... I guess they add most of the colour in post. Strange that the K-BoPs are so green and the Rom ships ain't.

Hehehe most of these SF ships look pretty damn white to me.:D Even the E photographs white sometimes. The D is amazingly robin's egg blue... looks so different onscreen, apart from the "oh sh*t" saucer crash scene(s).

Got a few more ref shots from Christie's:

Darth Duranium
09-09-2009, 08:58 PM
A few more...

Darth Duranium
09-09-2009, 08:59 PM
But wait, there's more...

Darth Duranium
09-09-2009, 09:01 PM
we can't do this all day...

Darth Duranium
09-09-2009, 09:03 PM
Last batch...

Darth Windu
09-09-2009, 10:28 PM
Looking at the front-on shot of the E's primary hull, I was thinking that it looks a bit more chunky and muscular than in any of the reproductions I've seen. Wonder if it's got a yacht?
Nope, the Yacht never appeared on the First Contact model. Also keep in mind that, as far as I'm aware, the Ent-E in Insurrection and Nemesis was 100% CGI.


The USS Yeager (-Meister?) looks like a straight kitbash of a Voyager front with a Maquis Raider back stuck on... but the Jenolin looks like a TOS tricorder with a couple of nacelles stuck on. :D
That's because it IS a kitbash of Voyager and a Maquis raider. Why they felt the need to use rubbish like that in DS9 instead of, say, re-using the Centaur design for example I'll never know.


The AGT Klingon BC doesn't impress me much... I think it looks a bit bloated and clumsy... maybe it looks better from other angles. Didn't realise that the Romulan WB and Scout were so grey... I guess they add most of the colour in post. Strange that the K-BoPs are so green and the Rom ships ain't.
really? I quite like the AGT Klingon Cruiser, which was of course then slightly modified to become the Negh'var on DS9, predominantly in 'Way of the Warrior'.

Darth Duranium
09-11-2009, 03:57 PM
Nope, the Yacht never appeared on the First Contact model. Also keep in mind that, as far as I'm aware, the Ent-E in Insurrection and Nemesis was 100% CGI.

But I'd imagine that the FC Ent's Yacht is marked on the lower hull of the Ent to show where it detaches from... if it's visible.
I'm sure the Nemesis Ent was CG but I'm not sure about Insurrection. I'm sure someone'll know.



That's because it IS a kitbash of Voyager and a Maquis raider. Why they felt the need to use rubbish like that in DS9 instead of, say, re-using the Centaur design for example I'll never know.

It'd be pretty easy to make one, apart from the usual registry/markings issues...
I love the Centaur.... I'd love an Akira, too. Didn't see either of them in the auction... probably CG, too.



really? I quite like the AGT Klingon Cruiser, which was of course then slightly modified to become the Negh'var on DS9, predominantly in 'Way of the Warrior'.

The MM version is not as chunky looking as the actual model looks, but then again it could just be the angle of the pic.
But I wouldn't kick a JL-sized one outta bed for eating crackers....

We never saw a proper Klingon shuttle or snub ship did we?

Spectre o'the Phaser
09-12-2009, 10:25 PM
Well, just got my JL 1701-A. I expected a lot, based on the JL 1701-refit and therefore I'm a little disappointed: most noticeable is the aztecing, which although nice overall, looks like the wrong color entirely; it's tan, not grey. The paint also seems to be applied a bit sloppier than on the refit, although that one probably could vary from ship to ship. And the blue areas are considerably darker that those same areas on the refit—too dark, I think. My ship also happens to have an ill-fitting saucer section that shows too much of a gap where it meets the neck. It was loose, too, and I had to re-glue it to the neck. But the gap still remains. And to top it off there's an area of gloppy glue residue on the inside of one of the pylons up near the nacelle. Arrrgh!

Regarding the medieval-weapon torp, I removed it easily enough but I think it broke off leaving a thin slice of it still attached to the ship and the result really bugged me so I just glued it back on, no one being the wiser.

Oh well, it's still a fine small scale vessel and it still beats the pants off the competition—from what I've seen so far anyway. The Konami A for one can't touch it, IMO.

Darth Duranium
09-13-2009, 05:56 PM
Jeez, you're not having much luck with your JLs, Spec. Sorry to hear that you got a couple of wonky ones... that ain't right. Argggh indeed.

I guess I was lucky that the mace-like torpedo thingey came off cleanly on mine... I hated that !@#$% thing. At least the phaser beam (not the torpedo thing) on some of the JLs wasn't glued on... a much better idea, IMO.

So which ships are you still hunting for? Your fleet's gotta be gettin' up there now...

Spectre o'the Phaser
09-14-2009, 11:01 AM
So which ships are you still hunting for? Your fleet's gotta be gettin' up there now...

Yeah, been making pretty good strides, DH. As my current want list would have it I think I'm only missing the following—although once I have acquired these I may have to expand... :lipsrsealed:

U.S.S. ENTERPRISE NCC-1701-D - J.LIGHTNING R3 and or CORGI
U.S.S. ENTERPRISE NCC-1701-D (FUTURE) - J. LIGHTNING R3
U.S.S. GRISSOM NCC-638 - FURUTA
U.S.S. STARGAZER NCC-2893 - FURUTA
SPACEDOCK/ORBITAL SHUTTLE - MICRO M.
VULCAN COMMAND SHIP - HALLMARK 2004
KLINGON BATTLECRUISER (K’T’INGA CLASS) - KONAMI or HALLMARK 2009
KLINGON BATTLESHIP (NEGH’VAR-VOODIEH CLASS) - MICRO M.
ROMULAN SCOUT - MICRO M.

Also, the Bandai Voyager and the Diamond TOS 1701 (HD) larger scale ships are wanted. The former most likely will never come to be on my shelf due to the outlandish prices out there.

Someday I'll have to post pics of my small fleet. Unfortunately my Billy bookcase is white...

Darth Duranium
09-14-2009, 06:51 PM
If I come across any of them (especially the Bandai), I'll drop you a line, Spec. BTW, I went to the Silver Snail last week and they had stopped selling models, period.

I'd probably grab the Konami KBC sooner rather than later... they seem to be creeping up in price. $30 for a JL Ent D is ridiculous, IMO. The Hallmark and Furuta should be easy to find.

The Konami K-BoP's pretty snazzy, too.

Good hunting!

BTW, the JL NX-02 Columbia just sold for $138 on eBay... insane!

NightCastle
09-15-2009, 09:00 AM
$30 for a JL Ent D is ridiculous, IMO.


Where did you see a JL Ent D? I have been looking for one.

Darth Duranium
09-15-2009, 06:25 PM
I saw one for $29.99 Buy It Now on eBay... a few days ago. Good hunting!

Spectre o'the Phaser
09-15-2009, 07:22 PM
The only JL Ds I could find recently sold or currently selling are the damaged versions, with the cheese. Bleh!

NightCastle
09-16-2009, 08:16 AM
The only JL Ds I could find recently sold or currently selling are the damaged versions, with the cheese. Bleh!

Same here. I want mine without cheese.:thumbsup:

Darth Duranium
09-18-2009, 04:38 PM
Yeah, the one I saw definitely wasn't the Nacho Dipper... but it was a very short-lived new listing, apparently.

They've gone up in price by about 600% this year. It ain't right. :ninja:

A year ago, the JLs couldn't get arrested!

Darth Windu
09-22-2009, 10:56 AM
Just because I could, I asked AA/DST about small-scale ships:

Hello. Firstly, kudos on the fantastic work AA/DST has done in regards to the large electronic ship line, and you can put me down for buying at least one DS9 USS Defiant if you folks get around to that one at some point. The question I have is that with the ST figure line, electronic ships, and figures, have/would you consider a miniature starship line? This would allow for various ships to be produced by AA/DST that can’t be made for the large electronic ship series, especially niche vessels, and could also compliment them by having a scale system. For example the AA/DST Ent-E and Ent-D are roughly to scale, you could produce smaller ships such as the USS Voyager that could then be displayed in scale with these larger vessels. Thoughts?

DSTChuck: We have considered some smaller ships but for now our focus is on the larger ones. With something small you have to see a large qty to be able to keep the price where its what a customer perceives it to be worth and (right or wrong) if customers see “small” - they expect to pay much less.

Darth Duranium
09-24-2009, 05:07 PM
Don't call us, we'll call you, huh?

Well, it was worth a shot, DW. Nice try!:thumbsup:

I agree with Chuck... for a small ship, I expect a small price! If you wanna pay a fortune for small ships, there's outfits like Franklin Mint, QMX, and Code 3 already!

Darth Duranium
10-03-2009, 02:23 PM
Well, if accuracy isn't a concern...:D

The second one has its charms, if not its dignity! Love the Bud Light propulsion system!

Blue2th
10-03-2009, 08:07 PM
Well, if accuracy isn't a concern...:D

The second one has its charms, if not its dignity! Love the Bud Light propulsion system!

Alright it's Star Trek "The Next Best Generation Animated Series Enterprise" and "Enterprise B." lol

Darth Duranium
10-04-2009, 04:27 PM
There might be some "dilithium" residue left in the aft compartment of the Ent B!:D

Here's one of saddest pics I've seen in a while.... here's the original Ent in the shape she was received in by the Smithsonian.

BTW, I just can't get enough of Drex Files... it simply blows me away every time I visit! Too much coolness!

http://drexfiles.wordpress.com/

Blue2th
10-06-2009, 01:43 AM
That's sad :cry: There's more pics there of her assembled though. Huge model.

There's some news from Playmates. Looks like they will be making some kind of small ships:

News:
STAR TREK - Live Long and Prosper

With nearly 40 years of heritage in the STAR TREK franchise, Playmates will build on the excitement generated by the blockbuster STAR TREK movie directed by J.J. Abrams with an offering of new toys and collectibles based on the 2009 movie and the classic original series catalyst STAR TREK. In addition to new waves of 3.75” action figures, role play accessories and iconic vehicles two new segments will be introduced in the movie line that should appeal to both the long time fan and the younger fans alike. The STARFLEET DEFENDER line includes a full array of movie characters articulated in small-scale in dynamic animated-style action poses. Collectible iconic mini space ships from the 2009 movie include the U.S.S. Enterprise, the U.S.S. Kelvin, and the Narada. And for the first time ever, Playmates will introduce 3.75” GALAXY EDITION action figures and diorama’s based on the classic Star Trek series. These figures will be highly detailed with authentic life-like likenesses and feature over 16 points of articulation. Iconic scenes from the most popular episodes will be depicted in two-figure pack dioramas. So jump on the U.S.S. Enterprise and Live Long and Prosper with the STAR TREK products for young and older.
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Darth Duranium
10-06-2009, 02:15 PM
Collectible iconic mini space ships from the 2009 movie include the U.S.S. Enterprise, the U.S.S. Kelvin, and the Narada.

That is awesome news! At least someone will be carrying the torch, besides Hallmark and QMX! Let's hope that they're detailed better than the big Playmates Ent XI. Thanks, Blue... nice find! Trek licencing sure is bizarre!

BTW, the price has dropped below $30 on the Hot Wheels SDCC Refit so I grabbed one: I love the drydock case but the tilt of the saucer is quite disconcerting! No porcelain teacups on that bridge!

Not sure if I'm gonna keep it... if I do, I might put a Hallmark light-up ship in the case instead. Could look groovy!
Anyone tried to remove it from its case?

Blue2th
10-06-2009, 02:26 PM
Yeah "mini" ships means it can't be Hot Wheels size I'm thinking.

I don't prefer it, but I'm not going to gripe if they are Micromachine size, as long as they are detailed, but I'm hoping for Furuta - Konami - F-Toys size since that's what I have most of.

It's just wonderful news to get the Kelvinator and the Edselprise finally!!! :thumbsup:

NightCastle
10-06-2009, 02:33 PM
Yeah, that would be nice. The latest update from Hotwheels is that they will now be released in November. I will beleive it when I see it. I hope that Playmates gets their version out before HW. That would be interesting.

The race is on. Who will get their mini model of Karaokeprise out first????

Darth Duranium
10-06-2009, 05:06 PM
Jeez Blue, I never stopped to think that they might do MM-sized ships... that wouldn't exactly thrill me. I've already got a resin keyring Karaoke Cruiser Edselprise :D in that scale that's astoundingly dull! Like you, I'm rootin' for Konami scale! A Kelvinator would be ice cold cool! Mixed emotions about the Narada... it's so weird lookin'... but you know I'd have to git me one.:)

What is going on with Hot Wheels' KCE? First it was supposed to be out in July, then November, then February, and now back to November again. WTF?

NightCastle
10-06-2009, 05:17 PM
What is going on with Hot Wheels' KCE? First it was supposed to be out in July, then November, then February, and now back to November again. WTF?

I am baffled by this. My wife ordered me a Seven of Nine action figure that has had similar release date issues, except it never reported that it would be out in 2010.

<rant>
These are all a sign of the end of days!!! I mean, have you seen the natural disasters lately? Maybe one of the recent locations hit by natural disasters is where these items are being produced. Heck, even Georgia, USA had flooding rains that swallowed entire cars and homes within a single day. That has not happened in Georgia in over 40 years! What is the world coming to!!!

Sorry had to get that off my chest.
</rant>

Just kidding about the rant...(Not about Georgia though, I live there)

Blue2th
10-06-2009, 07:08 PM
Jeez Blue, I never stopped to think that they might do MM-sized ships... that wouldn't exactly thrill me. I've already got a resin keyring Karaoke Cruiser Edselprise :D in that scale that's astoundingly dull! Like you, I'm rootin' for Konami scale! A Kelvinator would be ice cold cool! Mixed emotions about the Narada... it's so weird lookin'... but you know I'd have to git me one.:)

What is going on with Hot Wheels' KCE? First it was supposed to be out in July, then November, then February, and now back to November again. WTF?
Maybe Hot Wheels heart is just not in it and they're passing the ball to Playmates. Does their license end in 2010?
Or maybe there will be both brands?

I was wondering, who made those keychains, was it Playmates or some off-shoot company?
If they did they would probably use those molds. I hope not. :ermm:
Though the Kelvinator is a new mold no matter what.


I am baffled by this. My wife ordered me a Seven of Nine action figure that has had similar release date issues, except it never reported that it would be out in 2010.

<rant>
These are all a sign of the end of days!!! I mean, have you seen the natural disasters lately? Maybe one of the recent locations hit by natural disasters is where these items are being produced. Heck, even Georgia, USA had flooding rains that swallowed entire cars and homes within a single day. That has not happened in Georgia in over 40 years! What is the world coming to!!!

Sorry had to get that off my chest.
</rant>

Just kidding about the rant...(Not about Georgia though, I live there)
It's Gods way of telling us not to worship those idols-actionfigures. lol

Darth Duranium
10-06-2009, 07:40 PM
The keychain's made by the aptly-named Basic Fun company... pic below. Basic sums it up.;) Don't know if they're related to Playmates or not...

NightCastle, I personally think it's CNN who's controlling your weather in Georgia... I wrap my head in aluminum foil to keep Lou Dobbs out.:ninja:

Now that I think of it, the HW ships were originally slated for a May release!

Blue2th
10-07-2009, 10:19 AM
I saw one of those Karaoke Edselprise keychains at TRU, but I couldn't get myself to buy one because of the keychan holes, and it was so basic.

I would buy one if it didn't have those holes though cause it's Micromachine size.

Darth Duranium
10-07-2009, 11:17 AM
I sent an email to Playmates asking about the new Trek ships... got a partial response but they've forwarded it on to their marketing department.

The person I heard back from "think(s) that they're about 3 1/2" long.
That puts 'em into the JL size range... this is good news!

If they get back to me further, I'll pass the info on.:D I asked them loads of questions!

NightCastle
10-07-2009, 11:49 AM
Now that I think of it, the HW ships were originally slated for a May release!

Yep and I ordered mine in April or May. Still waiting...:laugh:


...waiting...:grin:


...waiting...:rolleyes:


...waiting...:(


...waiting...:mad:


...waiting...:upset:


...waiting...:cry:

Darth Duranium
10-07-2009, 02:59 PM
Yep and I ordered mine in April or May. Still waiting...:laugh:


...waiting...:grin:


...waiting...:rolleyes:


...waiting...:(


...waiting...:mad:


...waiting...:upset:


...waiting...:cry:

I feel yer pain, brutha.

I'm gonna hypothesize that the new Ent got held up by the bussard collector colour issue. The new pic shows it to have blue ones like the SDCC production shots, instead of the red we saw at first.

I wish Mattel had been pickier about the refit, but I'm glad they got it right with this one. Looks pretty good!

clone157
10-07-2009, 06:09 PM
I am so sick of the constantly changing timelines... for the toys that is. Gosh , I hope that the new ships are JL/Konami/Furuta size. I also hope we will see them at retail for under $15. I think they ought to look at more than a 3 piece wave, though. Chances are we won't see more than 2 waves. :sad:

Blue2th
10-08-2009, 07:42 PM
I sent an email to Playmates asking about the new Trek ships... got a partial response but they've forwarded it on to their marketing department.

The person I heard back from "think(s) that they're about 3 1/2" long.
That puts 'em into the JL size range... this is good news!

If they get back to me further, I'll pass the info on.:D I asked them loads of questions!

Well that's cool, hope they get back to ya. :thumbsup:

Anticipation............

Darth Duranium
10-10-2009, 03:28 PM
Playmates oughtta communicate with their own divisions, huh? Bizarre. And disappointing, as you said.

Well Blue, I haven't picked up a Corgo TOS Ent or many HW ships... so I'll go on stalking you. Wouldn't want you to feel neglected!:D

BTW, here's a comparison shot of the HW SDCC Ent:

Just admire the crisp craftmanship... and rich Corinthian Leather!:D

clone157
10-10-2009, 04:06 PM
Thanks, guys for the news. My erection is now gone. :mad:

Blue2th
10-10-2009, 04:09 PM
Geeze! Talk about wonky! Never saw the front view. Crisp craftsmanship indeed. With that, again I'm not sorry I haven't bought one yet. :ermm:
Hot Wheels sure screwed up the queen of all starships.
Well at least you got the space dock.

Darth Duranium
10-11-2009, 11:45 AM
It doesn't look too horrendous when the drydock shell's closed and you can just barely see it in there. I guess you could argue that Starfleet engineers are in the process of fixing the wonky saucer issue... it is in drydock after all.

Yeah, right.

It is a unique version of the refit... shame that the execution was so lame. I'll probably put a (constantly) blinking Hallmark Enterprise into the drydock at some point.... hopefully, that will look amazing!

I might have to grab a MM spacedock shuttle... anybody got a spare? :D

Darth Windu
10-11-2009, 12:15 PM
Thanks, guys for the news. My erection is now gone. :mad:


Geeze! Talk about wonky! Never saw the front view. Crisp craftsmanship indeed. With that, again I'm not sorry I haven't bought one yet. :ermm:*cough* err...um... :p

Blue2th
10-11-2009, 12:35 PM
It doesn't look too horrendous when the drydock shell's closed and you can just barely see it in there. I guess you could argue that Starfleet engineers are in the process of fixing the wonky saucer issue... it is in drydock after all.

Yeah, right.

It is a unique version of the refit... shame that the execution was so lame. I'll probably put a (constantly) blinking Hallmark Enterprise into the drydock at some point.... hopefully, that will look amazing!

I might have to grab a MM spacedock shuttle... anybody got a spare? :D

You mean the TOS re-issue Hallmark? It has constant blinking lights when you turn it on? I don't have it yet, but that's a cool feature.

That MM space dock shuttle is in set 3, so I don't have it yet.
It can be had for less than $10 for a "buy it now" individually or sometimes though rarely in a 3 pack.

Besides the Refit, I haven't bought the Hot Wheels TNG Enterprise either, because I have so many different other brands already, but I highly recommend getting at least the Reliant. It's the best of the bunch so far.

Darth Duranium
10-11-2009, 02:11 PM
Naw Blue... the Hallmark 1701A only stays on for 20 seconds, as does the newest Hallmark TOS Ent. I usually don't miss the cord but this time's an exception. I don't own the 1991 TOS Ent but that might have been perfect!

I was thinking of trying out the Hallmark Ent D or E, Voyager, or maybe the Defiant... they all plug in and stay lit, as you know. Should look pretty cool in the drydock, even though that drydock's supposed to be from an earlier era.

A MM Series 3 set just went for $120 yesterday so I'll be passing on that for now. Sheesh! I had my eye on a 3-pack recently but they wouldn't ship north of the border.:cry: But I'm gonna see if I can nab a spacedock shuttle, if it's cheap enough. Didn't they do a workbee, too?

I've been really lucky on eBay recently. I grabbed a Betty from Alien Resurrection for $3 and a SW mini Palpy on Mechnochair for under $10, along with the WL Ent this week! I've wanted all 3 for a while, but I've been forced to stalk them from afar due to personal cheapskatedness.:D

Blue2th
10-11-2009, 02:57 PM
Yeah, I was watching that MM set 3. Too rich for my blood right now.
Never seen a Workbee though.

It pays to be a cheapskate sniper in the bushes, waiting for that easy shot. I've done that with quite a few things in the past. I won one of those 1:18 Ultimate Soldier WWII planes for less than $50 a couple of months ago, and one just ended at $156 today. They just keep going up and up.

Damn! If I'd have known about that Betty, I probably would have been competing with you on that, but they haven't crossed my mind for a while. Good thing huh. ;)

Isn't that super rare, or can you get them easy these days?

I still have to get the Konami Nostromo. I have seen the MM one also, and a few other vehicles but not up close to make a judgement on whether I want them or not.
Probably worth having. Better get them before the next re-boot Alien movie I hear is in the works comes out. You know how that goes with the sudden interest in Star Trek after the new movie.

Darth Duranium
10-11-2009, 04:18 PM
I grabbed a Spacedock shuttle for $6 just now... I think that was ok... for a tiny little bit of plastic! I'd still like a Voyager Shuttle and a Maquis Fighter from that set... not too bothered about the rest. Wouldn't mind 'em, though.:D Hey, if anybody's got spares, gimme a shout! I'm just shameless, huh?

Nice buy on the plane, Blue. Whatcha git this time?

I've noticed that there's been a hefty falloff in the number of bidders so deals have been exceptionally good this week. I really didn't expect to win the WL TOS Ent... I put in a lowball bid 4 hours before the end and went out! Agreed, Ebay is awesome if you can contain your enthusiasm, wait, and be an "inglouriously" cheap "basterd". I am.:D Just ask my wife! :D

Dunno if you remember but the Betty comes with the Aqua Alien (Hasbro Alien Resurrection collection) and is usually quite cheap (under $10) but $3 is really cheap. I got them to keep the fig and to ship only the Betty so it only cost $2 shipping. It will need a serious repaint cuz it looks like someone puked on it! :ninja: Green? I found some great ref shots, if you want me to post more. I first heard about it from someone at SSG ages ago...:thumbsup: maybe you, Blue!

The Konami Nostromo is one hefty piece of resin... very heavy, very detailed, big, very nice. Comes with a heavy resin base but I've got mine "flying" on a WOTC stand. I've got a few MM Aliens (Giger's Derelict ship, APC... love that it fits inside the AF Dropship) but I skipped the rest after I picked up the Konamis. Konami's Sulaco is one of my favourites from any franchise.

Didn't know they were rebooting Alien! I'd be ok with that... not a big fan of the AVP flicks. I hope they get a good team working on it... Alien had its share of good directors, even though the results were kinda uneven.
I'm still freaking about the new BSG reboot movie with Bryan Singer at the helm!

BTW, didja know that Kenner planned on doing a Dropship for a 3 3/4" line but later pulled the plug when parents got all bunged up about it? Here's a scan:

clone157
10-11-2009, 04:47 PM
That dropship was gonna be huge! I still have yet to do the Alien Konamis, but I love my Sulaco from MM. Looks great in my fleet next to the Nebulon-B.

Blue2th
10-11-2009, 05:29 PM
I got one of these only in the box:

http://cgi.ebay.com/1-18-SCALE-MOTORWORKS-P-47D-RAZORBACK-DIPLAYED-w-BOX_W0QQitemZ380166772662QQcmdZViewItemQQptZDiecas t_Vehicles?hash=item5883b497b6
If you can believe it a 3 3/4 figure fits in the cockpit, and it's accurate to scale.

I don't think it was me who told you about the Betty, I just recently found out about it, probably in one of your posts this year. It does look puky, but still I'd like to get one.

Somebody is re-booting the Alien franchise, I need to do more research on the rumor.
I didn't know Bryan Singer was doing the BSG film. I don't know it's hard to top the second series. We'll see.

Darth Duranium
10-11-2009, 06:34 PM
I hope Singer does a better job on BSG than he did the sleep-inducing Superman Returns. Apart from the plane scene and the Central Park "landing", I was bored crapless.:D

Holy crap, that Thunderbolt is nice! The pilot even has aviator shades on! I am very impressed. Suh-weet!

Did that company do more planes in that scale? Don't you have a Flying Tiger and a bunch more? They must be pretty heavy!

My favourite WWII planes are the Spitfire, Corsair, Lightning, P-40, P-51, and ME 262... and I've always had a crush on the B-29.

Jeez, I better shut up or I'll end up collecting them, too!:thumbsup: I'll end up in divorce court!:D

Blue2th
10-11-2009, 07:22 PM
Yeah, Motorworks was the Walmart exclusive brand, otherwise known as 21st Century Toys - Ultimate Soldier. They're all plastic so just like a Star Wars vehicle around the same size.

I've got all the planes you mentioned in 1:18, they made them all in different camouflage schemes except of course the B-29 Bomber. That would be too huge.

It's gotten to be a rich man's sport now so I don't buy much anymore.
An unreleased paint scheme version of a German fighter went for $1800 the other day. :shocked: I think it set the record.


I've still got my eye on that Star Trek MM set 3 for a buy it now of over $150, but I think I'd have to sell one of my planes.
I'm torn. :(

Darth Duranium
10-11-2009, 10:35 PM
Must look pretty awesome all lined up.:thumbsup: I've only seen a few in your pics... didn't some rellies move in or something? I seem to recall there was a shrinkage of the Mahnclave a while back. You'll have to take a pic once they're all together again.

Is there a plane in particular that you're looking for, Blue? Might be different stock up here... if so, I'll keep an eye out for you. Lemme know.

$1800 sounds like a rich man's sport, all right! What was the original store price for that one supposed to be?


I've still got my eye on that Star Trek MM set 3 for a buy it now of over $150, but I think I'd have to sell one of my planes.
I'm torn. :(

Steady on, dude. That price is nuts, IMO. I could see maybe half that price, if I'd had too much malt whiskey and left-handed cigarettes.:D

Look at it this way: you could buy a lot of other cool starships or planes for $150... but yeah, I know how you feel. It ain't right that we don't own a set 3.
Jeez, I'd never pay that much for MMs... or any ship... I guess that there are some I'll never own. But you must follow your own path, Young Jedi.:D

Here's the toughie: which plane would be sacrificed?

BTW, Happy Thanksgiving!

Darth Windu
10-11-2009, 11:30 PM
I grabbed a Spacedock shuttle for $6 just now... I think that was ok... for a tiny little bit of plastic! I'd still like a Voyager Shuttle and a Maquis Fighter from that set... not too bothered about the rest. Wouldn't mind 'em, though.:D Hey, if anybody's got spares, gimme a shout! I'm just shameless, huh?
The Voyager Shuttle is great! Bit front-heavy but otherwise superb, the Maquis fighter isn't bad but not as good as the shuttle. :). I only have one shuttle, but two Maquis fighters though I'm sure I did some re-painting on one of them...

Blue2th
10-12-2009, 09:16 AM
Must look pretty awesome all lined up.:thumbsup: I've only seen a few in your pics... didn't some rellies move in or something? I seem to recall there was a shrinkage of the Mahnclave a while back. You'll have to take a pic once they're all together again.

Is there a plane in particular that you're looking for, Blue? Might be different stock up here... if so, I'll keep an eye out for you. Lemme know.

$1800 sounds like a rich man's sport, all right! What was the original store price for that one supposed to be?



Steady on, dude. That price is nuts, IMO. I could see maybe half that price, if I'd had too much malt whiskey and left-handed cigarettes.:D

Look at it this way: you could buy a lot of other cool starships or planes for $150... but yeah, I know how you feel. It ain't right that we don't own a set 3.
Jeez, I'd never pay that much for MMs... or any ship... I guess that there are some I'll never own. But you must follow your own path, Young Jedi.:D

Here's the toughie: which plane would be sacrificed?

BTW, Happy Thanksgiving!
The rellies are still here, the planes are still in the garage where my cars should be. :neutral:
Don't know if I'll ever get them displayed as you can imagine they are just too big. I got a buddy who has them hanging all over his house. He started to feel a little remorse (I got him started buying them and he went ape sh*t) on having so many, till I told him what they are worth now.
On my way to SDCC in 06' I stopped in a Walmart in Tucson, and bought an extra "Eagleston" P-47 from an endcap full of them (should have bought all of them) for $39. One just went for $220 on the bay. That's probably the one I'd sell though I was saving it for a custom re-paint.
http://www.amazon.com/P-47-Bubbletop-Airplane-18-Scale/dp/B000E6W7HY

If you see any of them anywhere they are worth getting even if you just want to turn them around for $$ as they are discontinued.
That one that sold for $1800 was one of three test paint warbirds never released that got out by accident.

There's a few in MM Set 3 I could do without. Some of the more obscure Voyager ones I guess, though I don't know getting them individually I'd probably end up spending the same amount, then never get the Enterprise E, as it goes sky high on it's own.
Some are charging over $20 for the Voyager Shuttle. :shocked:

The Voyager Shuttle is great! Bit front-heavy but otherwise superb, the Maquis fighter isn't bad but not as good as the shuttle. :). I only have one shuttle, but two Maquis fighters though I'm sure I did some re-painting on one of them...

Hey DW, you ever thought about making a USS Yeager out of that extra Maquis ship? You'd have to get an extra Voyager though.
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/scans/christies/yeager-christies.jpg

Darth Duranium
10-12-2009, 11:22 AM
I have the perfect solution, Blue. Move the rellies into the garage and the planes back into the house!:D

I'll keep an eye out for those Motorworks planes... I assume they're 1:18? Turning $39 into $220 seems worth it! Your friend must be well pleased!
I guess that paying $150 for set 3 doesn't sting so bad... in fact, you'll end up making a profit if you get $220 for the spare plane!

I've got 2 Romando Ent E's (pricey on eBay now) so I'm ok without the MM Ent E. I've seen the Voyager shuttle and Maquis around the $10 mark... I still think that's pretty high but I guess I'll see what I can stomach! I'm most interested in ships that I don't already have a version of... though I've got a Strikeforce Maquis somewhere.

DW, if you wanna part with your extra MM Maquis Fighter lemme know! Or are you just trying to wind me up?:D

It's workin'....:thumbsup:

Darth Windu
10-12-2009, 11:45 PM
Blue - not a chance :-p. I loathe the Yeager design, besides I only have one Voyager so yeah. Having said that the old snap-tite Revell AG Voyager model is micro-machine sized, but I only have one of those too.

DH - not at all! I really would have to check on how many I have though, it's been a while since I've cracked open my STMM's, and as I mentioned I do like to fix up the paintwork :D

Darth Duranium
10-13-2009, 07:58 AM
Hey guys... more rumours about Playmates: it's rumoured that some segments of their Trek line may continue after all... don't know which ones yet. Apparently, there may be an announcement coming up soon. Each mini ship is 3 to 4" long and may be sold in a 2-pack... possibly an early 2010 release... so here's hoping things go well!:thumbsup:

No worries, DW! I'm just winding you up!:D Agreed, the Yeager looks like a bad kitbash!

Blue, a bud told me that the new Alien project is being helmed by Ridley Scott (Scidley Rott!) and it's apparently an Alien prequel. Kewl.

Blue2th
10-13-2009, 02:42 PM
I'm sure you'll get to the bottom of this 'cause you're our buddy right? :confused:

Darth Duranium
10-13-2009, 05:04 PM
I'm sure you'll get to the bottom of this 'cause you're our buddy right? :confused:

By Grabthar's hammer, I swear I will! :D

Blue2th
10-13-2009, 05:56 PM
Thanks DH ;)

Darth Duranium
10-14-2009, 02:01 PM
No worries, Blue!

Spec, check your inbox... I found something you'll be interested in.

Darth Duranium
10-15-2009, 01:31 PM
Check out this behemoth! Yowza!

http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-HUGE-STAR-TREK-ENTERPRISE-SHIP-BIG-STORE-DISPLAY_W0QQitemZ110445596629QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH _DefaultDomain_0?hash=item19b7120fd5

NightCastle
10-15-2009, 01:50 PM
Check out this behemoth! Yowza!

http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-HUGE-STAR-TREK-ENTERPRISE-SHIP-BIG-STORE-DISPLAY_W0QQitemZ110445596629QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH _DefaultDomain_0?hash=item19b7120fd5


Too bad it is only available in FL and too bad it is only 2 dimensional.

JediTricks
10-15-2009, 04:08 PM
Check out this behemoth! Yowza!

http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-HUGE-STAR-TREK-ENTERPRISE-SHIP-BIG-STORE-DISPLAY_W0QQitemZ110445596629QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH _DefaultDomain_0?hash=item19b7120fd5
Doesn't really fit the theme of this thread. :p

Darth Duranium
10-16-2009, 01:00 PM
Doesn't really fit the theme of this thread. :p

Well, it's kinda small in the third dimension.:D

Blue2th
10-16-2009, 02:27 PM
That's small in scale compared to the real imaginary Enterprise. :crazed:

clone157
10-20-2009, 10:35 PM
I don't know if there's any one who reads this forum and writes in to Art Asylum about their ships, but maybe we should get someone to ask about a smaller scale for their Trek ships. After all, they do have the license.

Darth Duranium
10-21-2009, 12:55 AM
I don't know if there's any one who reads this forum and writes in to Art Asylum about their ships, but maybe we should get someone to ask about a smaller scale for their Trek ships. After all, they do have the license.

DW asked them about 'em recently:

http://www.sirstevesguide.com/forums/showpost.php?p=698057&postcount=427

Not the response we hoped for!

Darth Duranium
10-22-2009, 12:52 PM
Just got my JL WL TOS Ent today... wow! Gotta say that it's just amazing up close... the pearlescent paint is dynamite! Really stands out. JL's detailing is second to none... I'm reminded of how sad I am that that they're out of the game.

Blue, I can see why it was such a toss-up between the JL WL and the F-Toys... if the JL had a better deflector dish, it would be the undisputed winner! Even so, I'm still moving my vote to the JL! Love it!

NightCastle
11-13-2009, 10:21 AM
I just got notification that my HotWheels JJPrise has shipped!!

Finally!! I ordered it in May, over seven months ago. I will have to post pics when I get it.

JediTricks
11-14-2009, 05:55 AM
Wow, really? Dang, that's crazy, I had actually given up on that thing's existence. Has anybody seen an "in the wild" pic of it?

NightCastle
11-18-2009, 08:27 AM
I am in the process of reorganizing my office/computer room. I am going to be removing an older computer desk and replacing it with some black book cases that will allow me to better display my ships among other things. Hopefully, they will look nicer with the black background. Right now they are on the hutch of the desk surrounding my Star Trek lunchbox.

By the way, how do you post pictures so that they aren't links?

As you can see, I don't have any of my JL Ships out. That is because I ran out of room. A major part of the reason for my reorganization.

Here are the pics of the ships in their current location.

Some of you may remember that I was reorganizing my ships. Here is a picture of my reorganization with the new Special Edition JJPrise model that was released with the DVD. Also, my delivery of the HotWheels JJPrise is slated for today. If I get it today, I will try to get some pictures of it up as soon as possible.

NightCastle
11-18-2009, 01:58 PM
Over the next few posts, I will show unboxing and some closeups of the model.

As you may have surmised by the photo, I ordered it from Entertainment Earth.

It was very well packaged!

And... to add to the suspense, it was inserted in such a way that I would have to completely pull the HW box out of the shipping box to see the actual model.

Next it is sitting on the box to show just how much packaging care was put into the delivery of this model.

Finally, a closeup of the package with the ship inside.

NightCastle
11-18-2009, 02:04 PM
Next, I removed it from the packaging (I plan on displaying it with my other ships, not letting the package collect dust while hoping that it will increase in value).

Then I took a shot of the back of the box. Most of the other HW Star Trek boxes I've seen give a description of the ship, but this one only gives the famous quote.

I also focused in on the new image of the ship with the blue bussard collectors.

Then, here is the ship is on its stand. I know, not the clearest, but there are more to come.

A closeup of the saucer hull.

NightCastle
11-18-2009, 02:15 PM
Here is a seem of the front of the engineering hull to the back. This is the die-cast part. The saucer hull is plastic. You should be able to easily see the red Star Fleet insignia. Also, quite visible are the light blue bussard collectors. I would have imagened them darker. Unfortunately, you cannot see the grey coloring from the front where the dish is to about half way down the red line. I assure you there is a grey coloring there and on the front-third of the neck.

Another (blurry shot - sorry) that shows the location of the torpedo launchers and the fact that the dish is blue with a gold center.

Next, the flaw that bothers me about this model. The jucture where the pylons and the engineeering hull meet has noticable lines and you can even see in the blurry photo how there is a seperation between them.

Beneath, you can see more of the seem as well as the ginormous hole where the stand locks into place. Some detailing of the saucer hull is visible as well as a metal artifact as part of the engineering hull (pretty close to the center of the picture)

Here you can see that her "ample nacelles" are cockeyed and there seems to be some sort of change in materieals from the front of the nacelles to the back.

NightCastle
11-18-2009, 02:22 PM
Next you get to see some of the detailing of the saucer and its relation to the nacelles.

Finally, My immitation of the original Entertainment Earth ad image. This appears to have the nacelles pretty close together.

Overall, I like the model. There is some nicely etched window detailing in the saucer edge and neck betweeen the engineering hull and primary hull.

If the seem between the pylons and the engineering hull were corrected (I may have to do that myself) and the change of material that skews the nacelles were not so pronounced, I would love this model. As it stands, the model is ok.

What do you think? Are there any angles that you might prefer to see it from?

Darth Duranium
11-18-2009, 05:17 PM
Thanks for all the pics of the HW Ent, NC. Awesome review and a nice collection!:thumbsup: Jeez, Mattel was only 6 months late! Well, at least it's got blue bussard collectors now!

I enjoyed your slow opening of the package... I do the same thing.:D I open all my ships, too... and it's fun to drag it out a bit to delay gratification. :)

I'm a little underwhelmed by the HW's paint... not a lot of detail compared to say, a JL. I picked up the Blu-ray Ent yesterday... it seems to have a lot more paint on it... I was impressed with the azteced paint and painted windows. Shame about the seam issue on the HW, too... at least the saucer's on straight this time, unlike the refit.

I will have to pick one up anyway! Any chance you can take a few comparison pics of the HW next to the Blu-ray one, NC? I wouldn't mind seeing the HW next to a Furuta or a JL, too. Helps get a sense of size.

How would you compare the HW Ent with the Blue-ray one?

NightCastle
11-18-2009, 05:43 PM
Hey DH! I think that the Blu-Ray/DVD one (I got the DVD one) is WAY better detail wise than the HW one. HW didn't even bother painting the shuttle bay doors. I will most certainly take a pic of the DVD one next to the HW, next to the Furuta TOS, the JL and the F-toys. Which JL would you prefer to see in the group? White Lightning or grey? I will take many differening comparison shots as well as a whole group, from largest to smallest.

Darth Duranium
11-18-2009, 06:06 PM
Jeez, I thought the HW looked a little spartan in the paint department, NC. Are the nacelles a little wonky, too? Kinda look bent in one shot...:ninja:

Doesn't matter which JL you choose... I've got quite a few so I'll know how big the HW is from any comparison shot you can post. Most appreciated!

It seems that Mattel's tooling and paint is not nearly as sharp as Hasbro's, JL's, Furuta's etc... strange that they could be so big and yet so inept. :D

NightCastle
11-18-2009, 08:09 PM
DH, I have attached several pics of the HWs compared to the DVD/Blu-Ray model, the Furuta, JL and F-Toys. Also, I took a picture of it with all at once, that I think gives a good comparison.

I agree, the HW one is kind of washed out relative to the DVD one.

If it were a smidgen smaller, it would fit perfectly with the others in my collection.

Darth Duranium
11-18-2009, 10:38 PM
Thank you once again for the pics, NC! The comparison of the Furuta and HW Ents was especially helpful, and the front view shots were good, too.

I am stoked that the HW Ent is only a little longer (and shorter in height) than the Furuta Ent... that means it'll fit nicely on my wall 'o ships! Great to know!

According to the Blu-Ray extras, the new Ent is officially twice the length of the old TOS one so it turns out the JL and HW ships are actually fairly well-scaled for each other. I'd prefer a 3.5" version though.

I will definitely have to grab one of them... just have to find somewhere that ships to Canada cheaply cuz the HWs never made it up here, it seems. Cheers for the pics, NC!:thumbsup:

I hope we see a Kelvin, Mayflower, and Defiant from the new flick soon! I hope QMX does some small painted versions of the ships, too... just hope they're cheaper.:D

Darth Duranium
11-20-2009, 07:55 AM
FYI: Hot Wheels is selling the SDCC Spacedock Ent on their site for $19.99, if anybody still wants one ... even after my review.:D

BBTS has the new HW Ent XI on for $13.99... I just ordered one! Thanks again to NC for the pics! Looks like the Narada's due soon, too.

BTW, it's not sounding good for the Playmates mini-ships... I think they'll be officially dead in a few weeks.

Darth Duranium
11-28-2009, 10:55 AM
Looks like the Playmates Mini-Ship 2-Pack line is taking a dirt nap... before they even got a release. Sure glad they brought 'em up in the first place.

http://trekmovie.com/2009/11/25/playmates-star-trek-toys-put-on-hold/

I'll try to confirm with the dude from Playmates but it looks unlikely they've survived.

JediTricks
11-30-2009, 05:06 PM
Can't say I'm surprised about Playmates' cancellation here, it had no traction at retail and Trek fandom is on the wane, despite a brief uptick in popular interest from the movie.

Blue2th
11-30-2009, 05:58 PM
BBTS has the new HW Ent XI on for $13.99... I just ordered one! Thanks again to NC for the pics! Looks like the Narada's due soon, too.

BTW, it's not sounding good for the Playmates mini-ships... I think they'll be officially dead in a few weeks.

Thanks DH, I ordered one Karaoke Edselprise at BBTS.

Too bad about Playmates. Not unexpected. If they're not going to continue the other stuff, why would we expect them to do any little ships?
Still one can be hopeful.

At least they are releasing the wave 2 figures for collectors online.
I'll bet they are going to become either super-rare and expensive like the last Indy figures, or end up in clearance at Big Lots or Tuesday Mornings stores. :ermm:

Darth Duranium
11-30-2009, 10:30 PM
Blue!!!!!! Glad to see you're still alive! Thought you'd been eaten by Mugatos.:ninja: I like your new avatar... the glorious radiant power of the blue tooth!

Agreed guys, the death of Playmates ships line wasn't much of a shocker, but it sucks there's no Kelvin or Defiant etc on the horizon. I could see Hallmark doing a Kelvin in 2011... maybe...

Glad to help, Blue. I'm expecting my KC Edselprise any day now from BBTS... I've since read a scathing review of it on another forum... so I've lowered my expectations accordingly. I'll let you guys know when I get it.... I hope mine looks more like NightCastle's.

Blue2th
12-01-2009, 09:14 PM
Blue!!!!!! Glad to see you're still alive! Thought you'd been eaten by Mugatos.:ninja: I like your new avatar... the glorious radiant power of the blue tooth!

Agreed guys, the death of Playmates ships line wasn't much of a shocker, but it sucks there's no Kelvin or Defiant etc on the horizon. I could see Hallmark doing a Kelvin in 2011... maybe...

Glad to help, Blue. I'm expecting my KC Edselprise any day now from BBTS... I've since read a scathing review of it on another forum... so I've lowered my expectations accordingly. I'll let you guys know when I get it.... I hope mine looks more like NightCastle's.

Thanks DH. Pretty close to the mark. Had a tangle with a Mugato so to speak, along with a crisis domesticatus, hence the SSG hiatus, but stayin' alive.

That was a ceramic head I made in high school, kinda fits.



I figured this Hot Wheels 09' Enterprise is the only small one we'll see for a while. If it's halfway decent on the detail like 2 out of the 4 earlier ships, it could be painted or weathered with a light ink wash or something.
If not oh well. It might be hard to find at retail the way things are going with Star Trek, and I don't want to miss it.
Surely it's got to be better than the HW Wonkyprise refit aye? :rolleyes:

Darth Duranium
12-02-2009, 07:56 AM
Jeez, Blue... hope the Mugato bite marks fade quick! Make sure you avoid those mind-enslaving female witch doctors! I hope everything's cool at the domicile. Right now, the times are very stressful for almost everyone I know!

I like your ceramic head... reminds me of an artist I like called Stasys (pic below). Weird. I like it!

That was my rationale for ordering the HW Edselprise, too... despite my better judgement, really. Agreed, the HW Wankerprise Refit is one fugly wench. There was scant chance of me finding the new HW Ent on shelves up here in the first place, and I didn't wanna get stiffed... but it still hasn't arrived. Grumble, grumble... hate waiting.

I just got my plug-in (not battery-powered) Hallmark SW, NASA, and Trek ships out of the box yesterday... turns out I've got 19 different ones! I put 'em on a 20 light strand... had to double up on the Romulan. Curse that 1991 Enterprise! Damn, still I love them... the constantly-on lights rock!

Darth Windu
12-03-2009, 04:55 AM
Pffft, $14 for the Kareokeprise, $20 shipping. Pass.

Pity about the cancellations, though not surprising at all. I really hoping actually that F-toys will do a Stargate release. I've tried emailing them a few times about a second wave of Trek but it keeps bouncing back saying their inbox is full.

Darth Duranium
12-04-2009, 04:32 AM
Shipping to Canada was actually reasonable... BBTS has gotten a lot better. EE has them too...are they just as expensive for shipping to Oz? I suspect so.

Have you seen the new Battlestargate Universe? :D Just saw the pilot but not so impressed here. Weird to see that psycho Begbie from Trainspotting in it.

There are some cool ships (both fighters and cap ships) from Stargate, not that I'm very big on the shows, to be honest. But I didn't like Firefly/Serenity much and I still picked up a few ships cuz they were quite nicely designed. I'd buy some SG ships if they were cheap enough.

BTW, is Stargate shown in Japan? That'd be important, I'd think.;)

Darth Windu
12-04-2009, 06:16 AM
Yeah EE is just as bad. It's ridiculous really, a lot of the time you see the same shipping rates from some American eBayers as well which is why I usually buy from the UK instead.

Haven't seen Universe yet but really want to. We've only just gotten Atlantis season 4 on free-to-air TV here and Universe is only on cable at the moment, but free-to-air starts in a week or so.

Stargate I really think holds a lot of untapped promise. I mean it's popular - SG-1 went for 10 years, Atlantis for 5, two SG-1 movies, and now Universe. As for ships and vehicles they could make, just off the top of my head you've got

- Gua'uld Ha'tak (Mothership)
- Atlantis Puddlejumper
- F-302
- BC-303 Prometheus
- Asgaurd O'Neill-class
- BC-304 Deadaulus, Apollo, Korelev, Odyssey
- Gua'uld Death Glider
- Gua'uld Cargo Ship

Darth Duranium
12-06-2009, 12:41 PM
Yeah DW, some companies just don't twig that they could sell a lot more overseas if they charged reasonable shipping rates. I've never ordered from many of the big US e-tailers like EE for the very same reason. If it hadn't been for DM's help, I'd never have ordered from HTS either... I sent everything to him at his US address.

If you like the other SG shows, I imagine that you'll like SGU too. Despite the attempts at grittiness, it's still feels 100% like Stargate to me.:D

Y'know, I always feel silly trying to say the word "Gua'uld" without yodelling:D. I'm gonna have to look up that "Death Glider":D Hilarious name.

clone157
12-06-2009, 03:28 PM
You guys know of any wwebsites that have pics of these ships? I am afraid that I have not really watched beyond season 2 of the original series, but I am a sucker for good ship designs (Sulaco, anyone?)