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GNT
02-22-2002, 08:58 PM
While I was on the official website I came across the following in the "Ask the Lucasfilm Jedi Council" and was answered by Rick McCallum and can be found here (http://www.starwars.com/community/askjc/rick/askjc20020114.html)


Q. Will there be any appearances in Episode III by classic trilogy characters like Chewbacca or Tarkin or Mon Mothma?

A. No, I don't think we'll see any beyond the characters in Episode II, like Artoo and Threepio.

Sorry if this has been talked about before (This section isnt one I normally come too).No Mon Mothma no Tarkin?,Whats going on? Of all the people THEY should be in the film!

Thoughts?

Beast
02-22-2002, 09:07 PM
Well, in this case it's not Lucas saying it, it's Rick McCallum. And we all know how wise Ricky is, N'Sync...nuff said. So there is always a chance. After all, I am sure if you would have asked the official Star Wars website, or Lucas 3 years ago if Boba Fett would be in Episode II. I bet you would have gotten the same beat around the bush "No I don't think so" answer that asking about Tarkin and Mon Mothma got. :D

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

LTBasker
02-22-2002, 10:11 PM
If there is one thing I've learned from what has happened to Star Trek and alot of the stuff that is happening with E2.... Never trust a Rick in the sci-fi business. :p

Beast
02-22-2002, 10:32 PM
Originally posted by LTBasker
If there is one thing I've learned from what has happened to Star Trek and alot of the stuff that is happening with E2.... Never trust a Rick in the sci-fi business. :p
Amenaman! :D

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Rollo Tomassi
02-23-2002, 08:19 AM
The general concensus in the "Mace's Death" thread is that Mothma and Tarkin wouldn't be integral to the plot (you could have them in/you could NOT have them in) but it would still make for a nice little visual connection to the OT to see a young Senator Mothma on the senate floor talking to Padme. Or a young Tarkin. So I think you might SEE them in the third episode, but they will have little, if any, dialogue.

Plus, I agree. It IS RickMc. What does he know?

2-1B
02-23-2002, 09:51 AM
Originally posted by Rollo Tomassi
Plus, I agree. It IS RickMc. What does he know?

He knows . . . the title of Episode II will reflect the changes and feelings that Anakin is going through. :rolleyes:

He knows . . . Anakin's pod engines play the most important role in Episode I :sur:

He knows . . . it's all about the story :rolleyes:

He doesn't know . . . how many pieces constitute Liam's wig.

Beast
02-23-2002, 10:56 AM
Originally posted by Rollo Tomassi
Plus, I agree. It IS RickMc. What does he know?
Well, we know that he has a firm grasp of the "F" word from the hour long DVD feature on the E1 DVD. Can you imagine how often he must say it a day. Since it occurs what, 7 times in an hour long documentary culled from 600+ hours of footage. The man seriously needs his mouth washed out with soap. Put that on the E2 DVD George, please. ;) :D

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Rollo Tomassi
02-24-2002, 09:12 AM
"Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude..."

Beast
02-24-2002, 12:38 PM
Originally posted by Rollo Tomassi
"Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude..."
ROFL! That was so cheesey sounding in the documentary, Ricky apperantly thinks he's some young cool hip teenager, I wonder how many times Ewan McGregor was rolling his eyes whenever he talked to Rick McCallum on the phone. :D:rolleyes:

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Rollo Tomassi
02-25-2002, 08:31 AM
Hey, whatever. I'd love to get the "Duuuuude" call from Rick. It'd mean I was gonna be in the next movie. he can cuss like a sailor all he wants if I get to handle a lightsaber...

Beast
02-25-2002, 11:47 AM
Originally posted by Rollo Tomassi
Hey, whatever. I'd love to get the "Duuuuude" call from Rick. It'd mean I was gonna be in the next movie. he can cuss like a sailor all he wants if I get to handle a lightsaber...
Hmmm, Youssa point is well seen. :D Speaking of that, Lucas should run a contest for some lucky fan to appear in EIII. Can you imagine the number of entries. Make it a essay contest or somthing, to give it some added challenge. Come on George, make some fan's wish come true. :D

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Jek Porky 2002
02-26-2002, 05:53 PM
I know I'm going off subject here but, how good does it look to see GNT with only 7 posts, ha ha!

Toad
03-01-2002, 10:26 AM
What point would it be to have Mon Mothma and Tarkin in Ep. III? They are insignificant, as far as I can see. I don't want EVERY single character to have to be tied in to each consecutive episode --- we're smart people, there are some things we should just figure out!

That being said, on the other hand, I would love to see these characters' backgrounds, etc. and would pay $$ to see Han Solo and Chewbacca! :D

evenflow
03-12-2002, 04:20 PM
I think it would really suck if they are not in the movie. I understand if they are not shown because they can not find anyone witht he same likeness. I can deal with that, although it still sucks. I would love to see CHewbacca though. There is no reason why he shouldn't be in the movie.

Toad
03-12-2002, 04:47 PM
Originally posted by evenflow
I would love to see CHewbacca though. There is no reason why he shouldn't be in the movie.

:confused:
What reason SHOULD he be in it for?

Eternal Padawan
05-30-2002, 10:11 AM
Originally posted by JarJarBinks
Hmmm, Youssa point is well seen. :D Speaking of that, Lucas should run a contest for some lucky fan to appear in EIII. Can you imagine the number of entries. Make it a essay contest or somthing, to give it some added challenge. Come on George, make some fan's wish come true. :D


I think all of the extras should be lucky winners. They wouldn't even have to pay us. I would spring for airfare and hotel accomodations to Australia if I could be immortalized in a SW film. :D



Recently, George noted that minor characters like Tarkin, Chewbacca, Mon Mothma, etc might make it into Episode III if he could do it without forcing them into the movie. So at least he's considering it.

Rogue II
05-30-2002, 12:17 PM
Originally posted by Toad
What point would it be to have Mon Mothma and Tarkin in Ep. III? They are insignificant, as far as I can see. I don't want EVERY single character to have to be tied in to each consecutive episode --- we're smart people, there are some things we should just figure out!

That being said, on the other hand, I would love to see these characters' backgrounds, etc. and would pay $$ to see Han Solo and Chewbacca! :D

Tarkin is the most desreving to be in Episode 2. At least they need to mention his name. He does become a very important Imperial Officer. Mon Mothma.....well not quite as necessary as Tarkin, but she would be there for the same reason.

Chewbacca and Han Solo have no reason to be in the movie. I don't buy the Han Solo is a clone theory, so he would only be 12 or so in Episode 3. Chewbacca would still be on his home planet where he belongs.

scruffziller
06-02-2002, 11:32 PM
I think Tarkin should be in EPS III he would be just as important as Unc Owen and Beru, Yoda, and Bail Organa.

MikeAndTheBots
06-03-2002, 08:05 PM
Tarkin would be the only one that makes sense though and could be put into it easily. Just have him be a navy admiral for the newly formed republic navy. It wouldn't be forced either, just have someone say "Admiral Tarkin, your ship is waiting" or something.

aceguide
08-22-2003, 09:42 AM
Searched around and found this one to dig up...

In the latest insider there is a picture of the woman to play Mon Mothma (don't have it here with me). So Rick was not correct/truthful (earth shattering I know) in his original statement.

Question - what is the EU story behind her?

Jargo
08-22-2003, 10:53 AM
A stern, stately woman of middle age, Mon Mothma (http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/monmothma/index.html) was the Supreme Commander of the Alliance to Restore the Republic (http://www.starwars.com/databank/organization/rebelalliance/index.html). Mothma rose to the rank of senior senator in the Old Republic (http://www.starwars.com/databank/organization/galacticrepublic/index.html). When Senator Palpatine (http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/palpatine/index.html) made his move toward Supreme Chancellor, and later Emperor, Mothma remained a senator until the end, despite her opposition to Palpatine's policies. When the outrages became too difficult to ignore, and the debate moved from the senate floor to the battlefields of distant worlds, Mothma helped forge the Alliance that eventually toppled the Empire (http://www.starwars.com/databank/organization/theempire/index.html) and restored freedom to the galaxy. Mon Mothma (http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/monmothma/index.html) was born into political life. Her father was an arbiter-general in the Old Republic (http://www.starwars.com/databank/organization/galacticrepublic/index.html), and her mother was a governor on her native Chandrila. When she was old enough, Mothma joined the Galactic Senate (http://www.starwars.com/databank/organization/galacticsenate/index.html), becoming the youngest senator in the council to date. In opposition to Palpatine (http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/palpatine/index.html)'s ascendancy, Mothma organized intelligence cells, pockets of resistance to challenge the Empire (http://www.starwars.com/databank/organization/theempire/index.html), each one unaware of the other cells' existence. When the Republic finally crumbled, Mothma went underground, joining the political cells, forming what was to become the Rebel Alliance (http://www.starwars.com/databank/organization/rebelalliance/index.html). Although her role in unifying the separate resistance groups into the Rebel Alliance is unquestioned, Mothma credits Bail Organa (http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/bailorgana/index.html) for envisioning the structure of the organization. The two senators were often opponents on the senate floor, as Mothma's youthful idealism often clashed with Organa's realism and cynicism. The two did agree that Palpatine had to be stopped. In a series of meetings at Cantham House, Organa and Mothma devised and developed a plan for the Rebel Alliance. While Organa helped secretly supply the Alliance, he still played the role of political opponent to Mon Mothma. When the Emperor decided to arrest Mothma, Organa informed her, and she managed to escape just minutes before the Imperial Security Bureau arrived. Mon Mothma then spent the next several years on the run from the Empire. As a fugitive, she made contact with various resistance groups, expounding the virtues of Alliance. Mothma's life was threatened not only by Imperial agents, but by overly-suspicious resistance groups as well. The true birth of the Rebellion was the signing of the Corellian Treaty, where three main resistance groups swore on their lives to join the Alliance, and answer to Mothma. Mothma, and her Advisory Council became supreme rulers of the Alliance. Critics, such as former Corellian senator Garm Bel Iblis (http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/garmbeliblis/eu.html), often point out that Mothma was assuming dictatorial powers on the level of her enemy Palpatine. Mothma realized that a separate, impartial authority was needed to make the big decisions of the Alliance, and she was that person. Mothma instated a policy in that every two years members of the Alliance would vote on her continued command. She was never challenged in all the years of Rebellion. Once the Alliance was truly formed, Mothma wrote the "Declaration of Rebellion." This document, personally addressed to Palpatine, indicted the Emperor on a number of crimes. The declaration served to undo the damage Imperial propaganda had done, painting the Rebels as terrorists. As a result of the declaration, many worlds decided to ally themselves with the Rebellion. During the Galactic Civil War, Mon Mothma served as Chief-of-State of the Alliance Civil Government, as well as Commander-in-Chief of the Alliance Military. At this time, Mon Mothma was number one on the Empire's Most Wanted List. After the Rebel victory at Endor (http://www.starwars.com/databank/location/endor/index.html), Mothma was faced with the challenge of transforming a militarized Rebellion into a fully functional government. She organized a Galactic Congress, a series of diplomatic conferences that helped establish how the New Republic would govern. Mothma became Chief of State of the new government that emerged, and helped guide it through the numerous growing pains and threats that plagued it during its formative years. When attempting to forge peace with remnants of the former Empire at a diplomatic reception for Imperial Ambassador Furgan of Carida, Mothma was secretly poisoned. Furgan introduced a nano-engineered virus that was dismantling her cell structure one by one. Slowly she wasted away while New Republic medics were helpless to save her. Lying on her deathbed, Mothma tendered her resignation as Chief of State, and passed on the leadership to Leia Organa (http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/leiaorganasolo/index.html) Solo. Eventually, the true nature of her illness was revealed. A Mon Calamari (http://www.starwars.com/databank/species/moncalamari/index.html) Jedi (http://www.starwars.com/databank/organization/thejediorder/index.html) healer named Cilghal was able to cleanse Mothma's body of the artificial contagion, and Mothma eventually recovered. Content with Leia as her replacement, Mothma retired from political life. Mon Mothma (http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/monmothma/index.html) had a very brief appearance in Return of the Jedi, during the Alliance briefing room sequence. She was played by actress Caroline Blakiston. Blakiston had to return to re-record her dialog when it was discovered that pigeons that had been roosting in the set were audible in the original recordings. Though Mothma's role in the film was minor, the expanded universe of publishing added much more to her character as the Rebel Alliance (http://www.starwars.com/databank/organization/rebelalliance/index.html) moved from a military organization to a functioning government.

Jaff
08-24-2003, 12:29 AM
Wait a second, Peter Mayhew is cast to play Chewie and they had allready cast Genevieve O'Rielly to play Mon Mothma according to the official announcements. So the question asked to McCallum has allready been answered as a clear deception or error. Since two of the characters inquired about are casted I am counting on Tarkin appearing.

Beast
08-24-2003, 02:06 AM
Note that this question is well over a year old, infact from Febuary of 2002. Remember that Lucas is highly secretive during the script writing process. And doesn't even share things with McCallum. That's why McCallum had a similar answer in the case of Boba Fett for EII. :D

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

2-1B
08-24-2003, 12:02 PM
Blasphemy.
McCallum knows all.
:p



Wow, that pic of Genevieve O'Reilly is STRIKINGLY similar to a yound Mothma, IMHO. :)