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JediTricks
07-29-2009, 02:13 PM
The due date is less than a month, so we cannot run a massive poll series like last time. But I don't know if we should just use the exact same results we had before, as there are new Clone Wars figures to consider, and the old results have some figures that are now in production. Any thoughts?

Droid
07-29-2009, 02:29 PM
I think that we should just all submit a list of thirty figures. #1 choices get 30 points, #30 choices get 1 point, etc. One round only, nominate whomever you want, from any film, EU, Clone Wars, resculpts, whatever. I'm not volunteering him, but I think MadSlantedPowers said he would do the calculations.

JediTricks, whether you do it in the Q&A or not, could you contact Hasbro and ask them if a vote for the Tonnikas would count or if it would even increase their chance of being made. If we shouldn't vote for them I'd rather not waste two votes.

I don't think we should use any previous poll results. As you say, there are new Clone Wars options and same figures have already been confirmed. Also, the interest will likely be much higher in this poll then one of our other polls.

Snowtrooper
07-29-2009, 02:54 PM
It'd be great to post a list of characters that haven't been done or are in need of redoing. I think it would make voting a little easier.

Cane_Adiss
07-29-2009, 03:00 PM
It'd be great to post a list of characters that haven't been done or are in need of redoing. I think it would make voting a little easier.

I think most people can come up with a list of 30 they'd like done on their own. Some people differ in opinion as to who needs a resculpt. I'm sure many already have such lists!

JediTricks
07-29-2009, 03:21 PM
JediTricks, whether you do it in the Q&A or not, could you contact Hasbro and ask them if a vote for the Tonnikas would count or if it would even increase their chance of being made. If we shouldn't vote for them I'd rather not waste two votes.This is a waste of a vote, Hasbro is not allowed to do these figures due to legal issues, they already know we want them but they are not allowed to do them. We asked them not too long ago what figures were off-limits, so we already know asking for anything else of George Lucas, or the Tonnikas, or Grebleips, or any live-action character from the Holiday Special, or (for some unknown reason) Tyvokka.



I think that we should just all submit a list of thirty figures. #1 choices get 30 points, #30 choices get 1 point, etc. One round only, nominate whomever you want, from any film, EU, Clone Wars, resculpts, whatever. I'm not volunteering him, but I think MadSlantedPowers said he would do the calculations.

I don't think we should use any previous poll results. As you say, there are new Clone Wars options and same figures have already been confirmed. Also, the interest will likely be much higher in this poll then one of our other polls.The problem I have with that is a lot of folks won't want to go through making ranked lists of 30 guys, it'd be a beast and come up with weak sampling because that type of results requires thousands of entries in order to get a solid sampling (due to the high number of characters and vast breadth of sources from which to cull). 3 rounds of 10 each would get more votes if we went that route, but adding new figures to the poll would be a full-time job and make tallying difficult if we didn't do it that way. But I will consider the idea along with a multi-poll series.

The thing I like about using the wave 1 poll results from last time is that it cuts down the hundreds of results to a cleaner set to cull from. But Clone Wars is definitely a wrench in that.

pbarnard
07-29-2009, 03:28 PM
Could we get an absolute off limits list than (which should be simpler than who's available) like the Tonnikas?

bigbarada
07-29-2009, 03:39 PM
If we were to just use the existing poll results (removing figures who have already been announced or deemed off limits and bumping everybody up), then they would be:

1. Bom Vimdin.....209 points (12 votes)
2. Cliegg Lars.....200 points (11 votes)
3. Wooof.....152 points (12 votes)
4. Sim Aloo.....142 points (9 votes)
5. Guri .....133 points (8 votes)
6. Torynn Farr.....126 points (10 votes)
7. Cane Adiss.....120 points (7 votes)
8. Jocasta Nu.....117 points (8 votes)
9. Dr. Evazan.....116 points (8 votes)
10. Tey How.....115 points (11 votes)
11. Sgt. Doallyn.....113 points (8 votes)
12. Mosep Binneed.....106 points (7 votes)
13. Jess.....104 points (7 votes)
14. Daultay Dofine.....103 points (10 votes)
15. Gamorrean Guard.....101 points (7 votes)
16. Tzizvvt.....100 points (5 votes)
17. Nom Anor.....94 points (4 votes)
18. Reegesk .....92 points (9 votes)
19. Kithaba.....92 points (8 votes)
20. Rogwa Wodrata .....89 points (4 votes)
21. Lumat.....83 points (7 votes)
22. Taym Dren-garen.....81 points (8 votes)
23. Weequay Skiff Master.....81 points (6 votes)
24. Queen Jamillia.....77 points (5 votes)
25. Padmé Amidala – Loyalist Committee.....76 points (4 votes)
26. Wald.....75 points (5 votes)
27. Admiral Piett.....74 points (5 votes)
28. BG-J38.....74 points (5 votes)
29. Vintage Nikto guard.....73 points (7 votes)
30. Owen Lars (ANH).....71 points (7 votes)

Of course, this means the work is already done, so it might not be the most fun option for everyone. It also wouldn't take into account the opinion of newer members.

However, I like it because Kithaba (who would be my #1 choice if I made my own top 30) is ranked in the top 20. I'm worried that if we threw everyone's name in the mix again, then Kithaba might not fair so well a second time around.

JediTricks
07-29-2009, 03:53 PM
Could we get an absolute off limits list than (which should be simpler than who's available) like the Tonnikas?I just gave that in my previous post.



If we were to just use the existing poll results (removing figures who have already been announced or deemed off limits and bumping everybody up), then they would be:

1. Bom Vimdin.....209 points (12 votes)
2. Cliegg Lars.....200 points (11 votes)
3. Wooof.....152 points (12 votes)
4. Sim Aloo.....142 points (9 votes)
5. Guri .....133 points (8 votes)
6. Torynn Farr.....126 points (10 votes)
7. Cane Adiss.....120 points (7 votes)
8. Jocasta Nu.....117 points (8 votes)
9. Dr. Evazan.....116 points (8 votes)
10. Tey How.....115 points (11 votes)
11. Sgt. Doallyn.....113 points (8 votes)
12. Mosep Binneed.....106 points (7 votes)
13. Jess.....104 points (7 votes)
14. Daultay Dofine.....103 points (10 votes)
15. Gamorrean Guard.....101 points (7 votes)
16. Tzizvvt.....100 points (5 votes)
17. Nom Anor.....94 points (4 votes)
18. Reegesk .....92 points (9 votes)
19. Kithaba.....92 points (8 votes)
20. Rogwa Wodrata .....89 points (4 votes)
21. Lumat.....83 points (7 votes)
22. Taym Dren-garen.....81 points (8 votes)
23. Weequay Skiff Master.....81 points (6 votes)
24. Queen Jamillia.....77 points (5 votes)
25. Padmé Amidala – Loyalist Committee.....76 points (4 votes)
26. Wald.....75 points (5 votes)
27. Admiral Piett.....74 points (5 votes)
28. BG-J38.....74 points (5 votes)
29. Vintage Nikto guard.....73 points (7 votes)
30. Owen Lars (ANH).....71 points (7 votes)

Of course, this means the work is already done, so it might not be the most fun option for everyone. It also wouldn't take into account the opinion of newer members.

However, I like it because Kithaba (who would be my #1 choice if I made my own top 30) is ranked in the top 20. I'm worried that if we threw everyone's name in the mix again, then Kithaba might not fair so well a second time around.Nice work throwing that together. I don't think we can just use that list though, as I suspect Nikto fans will feel like they're getting traction already with the new figures, and there's no Clone Wars, and I absolutely cannot fathom sending a list that has Queen Jamilla on it. :p

DarkJedi5
07-29-2009, 04:01 PM
28. BG-J38.....74 points (5 votes)


Not to nit pick but he's the BaD coming early next year in the EU wave.

While I like the list, I agree there should be room for new imput. Perhaps instead of letting everyone vote for their top 30 we limit it to 10-15. That way there are half the votes to tally? I know there are flaws with doing it this way but there are gonna be flaws with any system and we've gotta come up with something quick.

Washingtonian
07-29-2009, 05:31 PM
I think everybody should just pick 30 of their favorites (or whatever the set number is). It would be the most fun, and for people like me who joined the forum not to long ago, it gives an opportunity to participate, where just using the old results does not. Final ranking could be according to whichever characters have the most nominations.

Darth Jax
07-29-2009, 06:03 PM
rather than everyone trying to pick their top 30 and rank them. just have everyone submit their top 10 (ranked in order of preference). either pick the top 30 names mentioned or assign 1-10 a pt value and submit the 30 highest point totals.

Mad Slanted Powers
07-29-2009, 06:19 PM
I'm inclined to go with letting everyone submit a top 30. The only problem I see with it is that it might be too hard to submit a ranked list of that size. Just because the final list we send to Hasbro is 30 doesn't mean we have to have people submit that size of a list. I would certainly want it to be bigger than 10 though, because I'd have trouble limiting my choices to just 10. Perhaps 20 or 25. With less than 4 weeks before the deadline, we don't really have time to do multiple rounds.

Blue2th
07-29-2009, 06:25 PM
So I guess the Clone Wars Micro Series characters are still off the table, even though they did some of them earlier this year in realistic style and are doing an L8-L9 Build-a-Droid?

I guess there would be too much confusion asking for any of those as they might think we want them animated style.

I thought they said no but their actions contradict the answer they gave, or they too are confused with it. Clear as mud. :cross-eye

Droid
07-29-2009, 06:30 PM
Does anyone believe the collective SSG community really ranks "JESS" as the 13th most desired figure?

I still think everyone should submit lists of 30 figures and if people don't want to participate, they can't complain because they had their shot.

However, what if for ONE week people were allowed to nominate their Top Twenty figures from the Clone Wars show. Those are ranked into a Top 20 list. Then we take MSP's Top 50 and the Clone Wars top 20 and ask people to take TWO weeks to submit a ranked list of their Top 30 out of that 70. Assuming someone is willing to do the math, is should give a fairly accurate sample of what people would like.

JediTricks
07-29-2009, 07:14 PM
How about we seed polls with the old results but allow write-ins, we pair it down in 3 week intervals, it's top 10 or 15 for each voter. 15 is not a number I think people will go to, but I'll be willing to put it out there as my highest number for this.

Seeding the polls to start with existing ideas means that discourage just every ol' crazy write-in since a lot of stuff will already be up there.


I think everybody should just pick 30 of their favorites (or whatever the set number is). It would be the most fun, and for people like me who joined the forum not to long ago, it gives an opportunity to participate, where just using the old results does not. Final ranking could be according to whichever characters have the most nominations.We're definitely not going to submit old results if I can help it. But in order to seed the poll with top results, I'm considering using the old polls we did as a jumping off point to the new polls instead of just blasting away with a thousand options.


I'm inclined to go with letting everyone submit a top 30. The only problem I see with it is that it might be too hard to submit a ranked list of that size. Just because the final list we send to Hasbro is 30 doesn't mean we have to have people submit that size of a list. I would certainly want it to be bigger than 10 though, because I'd have trouble limiting my choices to just 10. Perhaps 20 or 25. With less than 4 weeks before the deadline, we don't really have time to do multiple rounds.What about 3 rounds of top 10 like your phase 2 rounds for the last few polls we've done? I just hate using a shotgun blast of results for the votes, and I'm sure that's what an unfocused, "whatever you want" list. If we start Sunday, we have just enough time for 3 weekly rounds of something.


So I guess the Clone Wars Micro Series characters are still off the table, even though they did some of them earlier this year in realistic style and are doing an L8-L9 Build-a-Droid?No, they're fine.


I guess there would be too much confusion asking for any of those as they might think we want them animated style.I'll figure out a way to differentiate them.


I thought they said no but their actions contradict the answer they gave, or they too are confused with it. Clear as mud. :cross-eyeThey said they didn't WANT to do more now that the CGI Clone Wars was underway, not that they couldn't.



Does anyone believe the collective SSG community really ranks "JESS" as the 13th most desired figure?No, I absolutely don't think that, which is why I am really trying to go a different way with it.


I still think everyone should submit lists of 30 figures and if people don't want to participate, they can't complain because they had their shot.Again, it's such a shotgun blast of votes that a lot won't count for squat in relation to the overall community because we'd need a bigger sampling of random votes that way and we just aren't going to see that with a month to go and a big empty list for voters to fill out and sort through.


However, what if for ONE week people were allowed to nominate their Top Twenty figures from the Clone Wars show. Those are ranked into a Top 20 list. Then we take MSP's Top 50 and the Clone Wars top 20 and ask people to take TWO weeks to submit a ranked list of their Top 30 out of that 70. Assuming someone is willing to do the math, is should give a fairly accurate sample of what people would like.Interesting.

El Chuxter
07-29-2009, 07:18 PM
Just write "Jaxxon, Teek, Chuka-Trokh," and repeat that ten times.

Mad Slanted Powers
07-29-2009, 07:19 PM
Does anyone believe the collective SSG community really ranks "JESS" as the 13th most desired figure?Apparently so. She was only 12th in the ROTJ poll. In the first attempt at making a top 50, only the top five from each group were available to vote on, so she didn't come up for a vote until round 8, and she made the list on her first try. That put her 37th in the poll using that method. Then we listed the top 25 from each group and let people rank their top 25. That is where she finished 18th. She moves up to 13th in the list after you remove the figures that have been made and the Tonnikas.

Mad Slanted Powers
07-29-2009, 07:46 PM
Seeding the polls to start with existing ideas means that discourage just every ol' crazy write-in since a lot of stuff will already be up there.I could post the top 25 that remain from each of our previous movie polls, and the top 50 that remain from our EU poll and let people choose from that. If someone else wants to come up with a list of Clone Wars figure, we can include that.


What about 3 rounds of top 10 like your phase 2 rounds for the last few polls we've done? I just hate using a shotgun blast of results for the votes, and I'm sure that's what an unfocused, "whatever you want" list. If we start Sunday, we have just enough time for 3 weekly rounds of something.If you definitely don't want people to submit more than 15 should we do it as one round, then I would be up for doing it this way

I was just going through my lists a day or two ago and checking off which ones had been made or confirmed. I'll post the top remaining figures from each poll here a little bit later. That way we can determine if I've missed any that need to be removed.

Qui-Long Gone
07-29-2009, 08:06 PM
I think that we should just all submit a list of thirty figures. #1 choices get 30 points, #30 choices get 1 point, etc. One round only, nominate whomever you want, from any film, EU, Clone Wars, resculpts, whatever. I'm not volunteering him, but I think MadSlantedPowers said he would do the calculations.

I'll start! :thumbsup:

1. Brea Tonnika
2. Senni Tonnika
3. Jabba with Dias (and better eye sculpt)
4. SA Bespin Solo
5. Wicket
6. SA Ackbar
7. SA Bespin Luke (new head sculpt)
8. SA Gamorrean Guard
9. SA Red Guard (no removable helmet)
10. Solo carbonite (not red glowing...if it has a figure, no mustard stained shirt please)
11. ANH re-release Solo (VOTC)
12. AOTC Anakin (with new head sculpt)
13. SA Barriss Offee
14. Emperor Palpatine Senate Battle
15. Weequay Skiff Master
16. SA Dengar
17. Evolution Boba Fett as single figure
18. Funeral Pyre Vader
19. Funeral Pyre Luke
20. SA Skiff Lando
21. SA Stormtrooper with wider hip joint
22. SA Lobot
23. SA Ponda Baba
24. Jenny!
25. Evazan
26. SA Oola
27. Ree-Yees
28. SA Ahsoka not as a Clone War animated
29. SA Padme Geonosis arena
30. SA Hoth Leia

Blue2th
07-29-2009, 08:19 PM
Here's a list of Micro Series characters
They are already making Sidious on Mecho Chair, K'Kruhk and L8-L9 so that's a start.
I could narrow it down to ones I really want and others secondary on my list, because there's some OTC and PTC characters I would vote for over some of these. But if anyone needs to know who's not been made from the Micro Series.
Realistic style only please:


General Oro Dassyne
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Oro_Dassyne.jpg
Tarr Seirr
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Tarr_seirr.jpg
Sha'a Gi
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Shaa_gi.jpg
K'Kruhk
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Kkruhktoon.jpg
Paxi Sylo
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image:PaxiSylo.jpg
Rattataki Spy
http://starwars.wikiii.net/w/pl/Imag...e_of_Dooku.png
Barrack Daakman
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Barrek.jpg
Fordo (Coruscant)
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Fordoblaster.JPG
Arc Pilot
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image:ARCpilot.jpg
Sidious on Mechno Chair
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Mechnochair.jpg
Nelvaan
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/st...elvaan_ani.JPG
Nelvaan Kid
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image:TuzesAdazSon.jpg
Nelvan Wives and Chidren
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Nelvaanians.JPG
Nelvaan Shaman
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image...8Shaman%29.JPG
Nembees
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Nembees.jpg
Blorga
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image...a_cauldron.jpg
Grunda
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Grunda_Mantoid.jpg
Kullta
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Kullta.JPG
Mantoid
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Mantoid.jpg
Bugnaught
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Bugnaught.jpg
Carl
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Carl.jpg
Crockagor
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Crockagor1.jpg
Krutch
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Krutch.jpg
Anchor Blue
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Anchorblue.jpg
Giant Flog
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Giant_flog.jpg
McKnives
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image:McKnives.jpg
Falios
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Flalios.jpg
L8-L9
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image:L8L9.jpg

Mad Slanted Powers
07-29-2009, 08:26 PM
That Clone Wars series would have been covered in the previous polls. What we would need is a list from the new Clone Wars series to give it a fair shot.

Blue2th
07-29-2009, 08:42 PM
That Clone Wars series would have been covered in the previous polls. What we would need is a list from the new Clone Wars series to give it a fair shot.

I totally disagree. That's been the problem, they get confused with new animated style figures which I assume is what they meant when George himself said he didn't want them made.
I want a continuation of what Hasbro was doing before the animated style figures came out. When they did make some micro series characters in realistic style, and then did some in the Legacy line as well (no "Clone Wars" on the packaging btw)

I don't want any confusion with animated characters. I think the animated characters are taking care of themselves as we have seen, but the Micro Series characters are not getting much love at all.

Thankfully JT said he would differentiate them, but I see no reason to put them in with the Clone Wars at all, it just confuses the problem as we have seen already.

If we have to, don't even mention the word "Clone Wars" when referring to these characters. It just confuses the issue IMHO.

Mad Slanted Powers
07-29-2009, 08:52 PM
I totally disagree. That's been the problem, they get confused with new animated style figures which I assume is what they meant when George himself said he didn't want them made.
I want a continuation of what Hasbro was doing before the animated style figures came out. When they did make some micro series characters in realistic style, and then did some in the Legacy line as well (no "Clone Wars" on the packaging btw)

I don't want any confusion with animated characters. I think the animated characters are taking care of themselves as we have seen, but the Micro Series characters are not getting much love at all.

Thankfully JT said he would differentiate them, but I see no reason to put them in with the Clone Wars at all, it just confuses the problem as we have seen already.

If we have to, don't even mention the word "Clone Wars" when referring to these characters. It just confuses the issue IMHO.

What I meant was that when we did our EU poll, that was after the old Clone Wars cartoon. So people already had a chance to vote for those, and many of them made the list, and some have been made (Scuba Clone, Obi-Wan and Saesee Tiin in Clone armor). The new Clone Wars series started after the last polls were done, so have no representation in any of our last round of polls. I was just suggesting that if we are going to do as JT suggested and list the top remaining figures from our previous polls, it would be fair to list something from the new series. Of course, people will still be able to write in anything. Or we could go with Droid's suggestion and have a separate Clone Wars round to narrow that down..

Blue2th
07-29-2009, 09:01 PM
What I meant was that when we did our EU poll, that was after the old Clone Wars cartoon. So people already had a chance to vote for those, and many of them made the list, and some have been made (Scuba Clone, Obi-Wan and Saesee Tiin in Clone armor). The new Clone Wars series started after the last polls were done, so have no representation in any of our last round of polls. I was just suggesting that if we are going to do as JT suggested and list the top remaining figures from our previous polls, it would be fair to list something from the new series. Of course, people will still be able to write in anything. Or we could go with Droid's suggestion and have a separate Clone Wars round to narrow that down..

Yeah that's clearer, thanks. We did get some good figures. Still a few that I'm sure would be good contenders though. As long as we keep it out of the Clone Wars round, I think that would solve a lot of confusion now that the new series is here. Maybe in an EU poll would be better like before. That way no confusion about realistic and animated styles.

jedichicken
07-29-2009, 09:20 PM
Why not use the movie polls you have and just have everyone vote for 5 Clone Wars and 5 Expanded Universe as write ins. Too many new EU characters have been created in comics, books, video games, etc since the old results. However, the movie votes should be ok because they haven't changed 9Uunless I missed something:shocked:). With only 5 each you won't get too many far fetched votes. Have that go on 10 days and then take the top 30 from each movie( this is already done), Clone Wars and EU and put them into a poll of 240. Have people vote for 10-20 choices. If you do anymore then that, it will take forever to tabulate. Also everyone will have to think really hard on who they really want.

Blue2th
07-29-2009, 09:29 PM
Why not use the movie polls you have and just have everyone vote for 5 Clone Wars and 5 Expanded Universe as write ins. Clone Wars could include the micro series. Too many new EU characters have been created in comics, books, video games, etc since the old results. However, the movie votes should be ok because they haven't changed 9Uunless I missed something:shocked:). With only 5 each you won't get too many far fetched votes. Have that go on 10 days and then take the top 30 from each movie( this is already done), Clone Wars and EU and put them into a poll of 240. Have people vote for 10-20 choices. If you do anymore then that, it will take forever to tabulate. Also everyone will have to think really hard on who they really want.

You are not getting the words I've been saying guy. Don't confuse Micro Series characters with "Clone Wars" characters, or they'll think we want them animated.

Once again clear as mud.

jedichicken
07-29-2009, 09:39 PM
Sorry, Blue. I wasn't even going to mention the micro series (I'm not wanting anything else from it). I went back and added it as an afterthought.

Blue2th
07-29-2009, 09:48 PM
Sorry, Blue. I wasn't even going to mention the micro series (I'm not wanting anything else from it). I went back and added it as an afterthought.
It's ok, it's Clone Wars, then it's Clone Wars hence the confusion.

Every once and a while they do one or two figures from the series in realistic style. Then we got a whole wave, so I should be thankful.

I think it's best as MSP mentioned when we had them before in an EU poll to do the same this time again, to avoid any mix-up.

jedichicken
07-29-2009, 10:07 PM
I agree. My main concern is that newer EU characters won't be part of the poll and the new Clone Wars should be included as well. I just don't want it to be a nightmare for whoevers counting under the time constraint.

bigbarada
07-29-2009, 10:07 PM
Howzabout a 3 round poll? One round where we narrow down the existing top 25 figures from each movie and EU (essentially reshuffling the current results). A second round for new nominations, where everyone can nominate 10-20 figures that don't appear on the existing list. Then the third round would throw all of those results together into a final top 30 list.

Mad Slanted Powers
07-29-2009, 10:31 PM
Yeah that's clearer, thanks. We did get some good figures. Still a few that I'm sure would be good contenders though. As long as we keep it out of the Clone Wars round, I think that would solve a lot of confusion now that the new series is here. Maybe in an EU poll would be better like before. That way no confusion about realistic and animated styles.
I'd even be inclined to not include the new Clone Wars since it is fairly new and ongoing. We're bound to be getting a lot of the unmade ones that people really want before too long anyway.

Here are the six movie lists and the EU list. I went down far enough in each list to get 25 unmade figures (50 for the EU poll). I left the made and confirmed ones in their spots with an asterisk. If there are any others I should take off, let me know. If there are some I shouldn't have taken off, let me know that. I've made a few comments in red.

Also, we are not voting yet, so posting your lists here won't count for anything. This is just to make sure the figures we list in the actual poll are all figures that haven't been made or confirmed.

TPM
* - Ratts Tyerell - should be coming sometime as we saw pictures of him before he was replaced by Clegg Holdfast
1 - Tey How
2 - Ben Quadinaros
3 - Daultay Dofine
* - Queen Amidala return to Naboo purple - coming in TPM wave
4 - Mawhonic
5 - Queen Amidala post senate black
6 - Kitster
7 - Wald
8 - Naboo Pilot in trenchcoat
9 - R5-X2
* - Rum Sleg - coming in TPM wave
10 - Ann or Tan Gella
11 - Battle Droid (blue)
12 - Aldar Beedo
13 - Nute Gunray sitting on the walking throne
* - Clegg Holdfast - coming in TPM wave
* - Obi-Wan Kenobi – new SA resculpt - coming in TPM wave
14 - PK worker droid
15 - G8-R3 (R5-A7)
* - Queen Amidala pre-senate grey - was in Padmé Evolutions
16 - Boles Roor
17 - Ark "Bumpy" Roose
18 - Ebe Endocott
* - Greblieps - off limits for this poll
19 - Captain Panaka
20 - Gardulla the Hutt
21 - Jira
22 - Kam Nale/Elan Mak
23 - Maoi Madakor
24 - Tikkes
25 - Eirtaé - Naboo battle – Blonde Handmaiden

AOTC
1 - Cliegg Lars
* - Beru Whitesun - in current AOTC wave
* - Owen Lars - in current AOTC wave
2 - Jocasta Nu
3 - Bariss Offee
4 - Queen Jamillia
5 - Padmé Yellow Picnic Dress
6 - Padmé Palpatine's Office
7 - Dormé
8 - Hermione Bagwa
9 - Padmé Refugee
10 - Padmé Backless Dress
* - Tarados Gon - in current AOTC wave
11 - Cordé
* - Captain Typho - in current AOTC wave
12 - RIC-920
13 - Toonbuck Toora
14 - Tikkes
* - Obi-Wan Jedi Robes - we got a new SA Obi-Wan, though he doesn't have a robe
15 - Nyrat Agira
16 - Naboo Holy Man
* - Battle Droid Commander Red SA - coming in Wal-Mart Droid Factory exlusives
17 - Rogwa Wodrata
18 - FA-4
19 - Padmé packing to leave
20 - Padmé Nightgown
21 - COO-2180
22 - Younglings
23 - Padmé Lars Garage Dress
24 - Anakin Jedi Robes
25 - Denaria Kee

ROTS
* - Utai - coming in a ROTS wave
* - General Grievous - 2008 TLC #25
* - FX-6 - 2008 TLC #28
* - Breha Organa - 2008 TLC #27
1 - Midwife Droid
2 - Owen Lars
3 - Padmé with hair buns
4 - Beru Lars
5 - Coleman Kcaj
6 - Cin Drallig
7 - BD-3000 luxury droid
8 - Padmé Funeral
9 - Padmé Senate Empire Declared
10 - Palpatine red SA
11 - Medical Droid GH-7
12 - IG-100 Magnaguard
13 - Nute Gunray
14 - Bulkier Polis Masson with helmet
15 - Bail Organa airspeeder pilot
16 - Apailana
17 - Lampay Fay
18 - Maneeli Tuun
19 - Rune Haako
20 - Palpatine duel with Yoda
21 - Padmé after Anakin turns
22 - Denaria Kee
23 - Sors Bandeam
24 - Padmé Hosptial Gown
* - R4-P44 - BAD for upcoming ANH wave
25 - Padmé Green Gown

ANH
1 - Dr. Evazan
* - Brea Tonnika - off limits for this poll
* - Wioslea - TLC #36
* - Senni Tonnika - off limits for this poll
2 - Bom Vimdin
* - Brainiac - TLC #35
* - Dice Ibegon - TLC #37
3 - Uncle Owen
* - WED-15-ST68 - TLC #33
* - Saurin - in upcoming ANH wave
* - Trinto Duaba - TLC #37
4 - Tzizvvt
* - Red Leader - in Scramble on Yavin BP
* - Rebel Technician - in Scramble on Yavin BP
5 - Mosep Binneed
6 - Ponda Baba
7 - Baniss Keeg
8 - Reegesk
9 - Commander Praji
10 - Pello Scrambas
* - Red Leader's R5 Unit - in Scramble on Yavin BP
* - R5-A2 - BAD in last ANH wave
11 - Commander Willard
* - Obi-Wan Kenobi - TLC #34
12 - Imperial Officer (grey uniform)
* - John D. Branon – Red 4 - in upcoming Rebel Pilots Evolutions
13 - Solomahal
14 - Arleil Schous
* - U-3PO - BAD in current ESB wave
15 - Luke with removable stormtrooper belt
* - Blue R3 on Death Star - BAD in upcoming ROTJ wave (either R3-M3 or R3-O1)
16 - WED-9 M1 Bantha droid
17 - Tiree - Gold 2
18 - Danz Borin
* - Han Solo as Stormtrooper - TLC #31
19 - Melas
* - Leesub Sirln - “Weird Girl” - in upcoming ANH wave
20 - Davish "Pops" Krail - Gold 5
21 - Rycar Ryjerd
22 - Han Solo Yavin Ceremony
* - Spacetrooper (seen when Falcon is tractored in) - TLC #32
* - Wedge's R2 - with upcoming Wedge's X-Wing
23 - R2 Green Horizontal Stripes - this one (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Unknown_R2_unit_%28Yavin%29)
* - Imperial Officer in tunic - I think Lt. Renz in the Shield Generator Assault BP fits this description
24 - Swilla Corey
25 - Cantina Band Member

ESB
1 - Torynn Farr
* - Luke Medical Frigate - TLC #38
* - Leia Medical Frigate - TLC #41
* - Needa - TLC #40
* - Edian – black Bespin Guard - in upcoming ESB wave
2 - Han Solo Bespin
3 - Dak Ralter
4 - Wedge Snowspeeder
* - Hoth Rebel Soldier SA - TLC #42
5 - Piett
6 - Vintage Hoth Rebel
7 - Leia Hoth
8 - Probe Droid
* - Willrow Hood - in upcoming ESB wave
9 - Treva Horme
10 - Wiorkettle
* - Ugnaughts - TLC #43, variant coming soon
11 - Sheckil
12 - E-3PO
* - R5-M2 - in Hoth Recon Patrol BP
13 - Obi-Wan spirit with hood up (Hoth)
14 - Lando Calrissian
* - Wes Janson - Rebel Pilots I Evolutions
* - Utriss M'Toc - appears to be the variant Bespin Guard in upcoming ESB wave
15 - Leia Bespin Escape
16 - Luke Dagobah
* - Hobbie - in TAC Comic Pack #12, though that is EU source, not snowspeeder pilot
17 - Lennox
18 - Bespin Guard – mustache
* - Zuckuss - in upcoming ESB wave
19 - Imperial Navy Crewman - will new Scanning Crew figure work for this as well?
20 - Holo Imperial Officer
* - Luke Snowspeeder - in upcoming ESB wave
21 - Luke Orange jumpsuit
22 - Merril
23 - Dengar
24 - Leia Bespin Gown
25 - Luke Hoth SA

ROTJ
1 - Wooof
2 - Sim Aloo
* - BG-J38 - BAD in upcoming EU wave
3 - Cane Adiss
4 - Sgt. Doallyn
5 - Gamorrean Guard
* - Slave Leia SA - in upcoming ROTJ wave
* - R2-D2 Shield Bunker - in Shield Generator Assault BP (though some still want something better)
* - Luke Death Star II - in upcoming ROTJ wave (still not good enough?)
6 - Admiral Ackbar
7 - Lumat
8 - Kithaba
9 - Taym Dren-garen
10 - Jess
11 - Warok
12 - Yoda Spirit
* - Paploo - in upcoming ROTJ wave
13 - Shasa Tiel
14 - Nien Nunb - the one in ROTJ wave looks more like Ten Nunb B-Wing Pilot
15 - Nikto Skiff 2 Vintage
16 - TT-8L
17 - Geezum
18 - Funeral Pyre Vader
19 - Wicket
20 - Fozec
21 - 2nd Weequay
22 - Worrt
23 - Nik Sant
24 - Lando Endor
25 - Oola

EU
1 - Guri
* - Jaina Solo - in upcoming EU wave, pilot alternative still on list below
* - Jacen Solo - in upcoming EU wave, perhaps other versions wanted?
2 - Joruus C'baoth
3 - Pellaeon
* - Talon Karrde - TLC Comic Pack #9
4 - Nom Anor
* - Exar Kun - in upcoming Comic Pack
5 - Admiral Daala
* - Corran Horn - X-Wing pilot in upcoming Wal-Mart exlusive Droid Factory series, Jedi or other versions still wanted
6 - Leebo
7 - Anakin Solo
* - K'Kruhk - in upcoming EU wave
* - Kyle Katarn - in upcoming Comic Pack
* - Yuuzhan Vong Warrior - in upcoming Comic Pack
8 - Nomi Sunrider
* - Ulic Qel-Droma - in upcoming Comic Pack
9 - Ysanne Isard
10 - Noghri
11 - Kyp Duron
12 - Mara Jade Skywalker
13 - Ben Skywalker
* - HK-47 - BAD in current AOTC wave
14 - Tenel Ka Djo
15 - Teek
16 - Lumpawarrump
* - Lumiya - in upcoming Comic Pack
17 - Lowbacca
18 - Dash Rendar
* - Borsk Fey'lya - TLC Comic Pack #14
19 - Montross
20 - Winter
21 - Leia Organa Solo older
22 - Mallatobuck
* - Saesee Tiin in armor - TLC #11
* - Obi-Wan Clone Trooper Armor - TLC #09
23 - Tahiri Veila
24 - Siri Tachi
25 - Han Solo older
26 - Rukh
27 - Darth Plagueis
28 - Anakin Solo Jedi
* - IG Lancer Droid - TLC #13
* - Thrawn - TLC Comic Pack #9
29 - Attichitcuk
30 - Tsavong Lah
31 - Jaster Mereel
* - Clone SCUBA Trooper - TLC #10
32 - Cindel Towani
33 - Kneesa
* - Ackmena - off limits for this poll
34 - Vergere
35 - Noa Briqualon
36 - Bastila Shan
37 - Khabarakh
38 - Jaxxon
39 - Garm Bel Iblis
40 - Jagged Fel
41 - Kam Solusar
42 - Chukha-Trok
43 - Komari Vosa
44 - Jaina Solo Pilot
45 - Luke Skywalker older
46 - Voort “Piggy” saBingring
47 - Dathomir Nightsister
* - Jodo Kast - TLC #18
48 - Mara Jade (Arica)
49 - Roz
* - Deliah Blue - in upcoming Comic Pack
50 - Mirax Terrik

jedichicken
07-29-2009, 10:57 PM
The only problem with the EU part is that it leaves out such things as the Legacy comic, Force Unleashed video game, the latest novels, etc. Which are pretty popular. I would be fine with the choices from the original list,all my picks are there already, but I could see where some people could get miffed. Clone Wars though, some of the minor 1 show characters might not get made otherwise because I'm sure Hasbro is working on season 2 already.

Mad Slanted Powers
07-29-2009, 11:38 PM
The only problem with the EU part is that it leaves out such things as the Legacy comic, Force Unleashed video game, the latest novels, etc. Which are pretty popular. I would be fine with the choices from the original list,all my picks are there already, but I could see where some people could get miffed. Clone Wars though, some of the minor 1 show characters might not get made otherwise because I'm sure Hasbro is working on season 2 already.

People will still be free to write in characters. On such short notice, we don't have time to re-poll everything.

At this point, I would be up for one of the following two possibilities:

1. Everyone submits a list of up to 25 or 30 figures. The top 30 in the poll will be our list.
2. Everyone submits a list of up to 10 or 15 figures. The top 10 make our list. Repeat two more times to get our 30 figures.

In both cases, the results of our previous polls above will be available for people to choose from, but they will not be limited to those choices. I don't feel it is necessary to add a list of new Clone Wars characters. That is an ongoing line and most of the main characters have been made, are on the way, or will probably be made before too long. Plus, after another season, there will probably be a lot more figures from the series that people will want. I'm thinking that a fan's choice poll should focus more on those figures we've been wanting for years. However, if enough people write in for a new Clone Wars series character, it deserves to make the list.

indyjones1981
07-30-2009, 01:24 AM
Can we vote for updated figures from the Droids & Ewoks Cartoon Series from the Mid 1980's? Be nice to have some of the original Kenner figures be remade today. Might never happen though. Not sure what Hasbro has ever said about redoing these lines. Anyone know Hasbro's answer/thoughts?

Tycho
07-30-2009, 05:07 AM
Hasbro doesn't have any current plans to remake figures from the 80's Ewoks and Droids cartoons. They do not think there is a market for them. However, they personally like them.

Anyway, the list of 30 works for me.

I think using the old poll results as a starter-suggestion list, but allowing write-ins, is the best way to do this.

It is taking me a while to create my Top 30 list, but I'm making mine with this method:

1. I went through MSP's Top 50 and individual movie and EU lists and wrote down the characters I want - from the Top 50 first. They're most likely to be supported by others here because they obviously already were. But I didn't even want 30 of those, so I started adding TPM figures that I wanted. I think by AOTC or ROTS I'd completed a list of 30 figures I do want.

2. Then I identified which figures I could not do without for my scenes - sorry JT, but the whole point of the Naboo Palace scene in AOTC is to meet with Queen Jamilla. I'll only buy 1 of her figures, but I must have it eventually. So she's on my final list. Others like Speeder Pilot Bail Organa would be nice, but I can use 501st Clones for other scenes, as well as Zett Jukasa, so Bail doesn't make it for me, but that would be a great figure of him.

3. Then I tallied how many figures I'd buy. For Padme by the waterfalls (AOTC) I'd only buy 1 figure of her, and display her with only 1 other figure (Anakin Evolutions) - so she is far less important than say Padme Nightgown (AOTC) because of the whole assassin droid / kohoun attack when Zam Wessel tries to kill her and Obi-Wan and Anakin rush to her rescue. Typho, R2D2, Jango Fett (off watching at a distance) and potentially a future Dorme figure are all part of this grouping of figures, so I'd much rather do this scene than the waterfalls with the yellow dress. But as figures I'd buy even more of came up on the list, the Expanded Universe Noghri for example, I'd take weaker figures I have less demand for off - unless....

4. I stayed loyal to the voters in my 2004 poll and 2005 ROTS poll and if the figure was on my list, and a '04/'05 poll winner, plus one I'd buy multiples of, they went on my final list I'm composing. These figures are first and foremost off MSP's winners' list already.

5. Right now I'm figuring out who's at the bottom of my Top 30, by how many I'd buy - like of Nom Anor for example - and who I absolutely can't do without. For example, I really want Klaatu (vintage update) and he's still on my list, but I can do a Jabba scene and sailbarge scene without him if necessary. However, I really have to have the Noghri for certain EU scenes, so they must pull ahead of many of these figures because I'd army-build them, and substitute a generic one for Rukh or Khabarahk right from the get-go as I don't think Hasbro will make 3 different Noghris - but you never know.

I finished and in case anyone here wonders what this experiment resulted in:

12 Expanded Universe figures
6 from TPM
6 from AOTC
4 from ROTS
1 from ANH
1 from ROTJ

I apparently have no (highly ranking) wants from ESB though I think a lot of our figures we picked before like Luke Dagobah with an open jacket, the vintage-style Hoth Rebel, Wiorkettle, and Treva Horme are very interesting and figures I'd surely buy.

pbarnard
07-30-2009, 06:06 AM
EU
48 - Jodo Kast

May not like the sculpt, but already released.

Tycho
07-30-2009, 06:56 AM
01. Noghri (generic commando)
02. Padme Nightgown (AOTC)
03. Padme Loyalist Commitee (AOTC)
04. Cliegg Lars
05. Tey How
06. Daultay Dofine
07. Jocasta Nu
08. Queen Jamilla (AOTC)
09. Midwife Droid (ROTS)
10. Queen Amidala - black dress Post-Senate
11. Joruus C'Boath
12. Gilliard Palleon (pref. Imperial Captain's rank, HTTE novels)
13. Captain Panaka (SA, softgoods, removeable hat)
14. Senator Amidala "Declaration of Galactic Empire" (ROTS)
15. Nomi Sunrider
16. Nom Anor
17. Guri (red/black dress, SOTE)
18. Anakin Solo (NJO novels)
19. Darth Sidious (Yoda Duel - ROTS)
20. Padme Amidala (Senate Landing Platform, Leia hair buns - ROTS)
21. Ysanne Isaard, head of Imperial Intelligence
22. Leia Organa-Solo (pregnant Jedi Apprentice from HTTE)
23. Corran Horn Jedi Knight (NJO novels)
24. Kyp Durron Rogue Jedi Master (NJO novels)
25. Senator Tiikes - Quarren Separatist Council Member from Mon Calamari
26. Rogwa Woodrata - Separatist Council Member
27. Kitster
28. Bom Vimdim - Mos Eisley Cantina
29. Wooof - Jabba's Palace
30. Tenel Ka Djo - one-armed Jedi Apprentice, NJO era

pbarnard
07-30-2009, 07:11 AM
Yuuzhan Vong Warrior (resculpted, not the overly muscled PotF2 figure they're trying to pass off in the upcoming comic pack)
Captain/Admiral Pelleon
Tsvong Lah
Nom Anor (unmasked, Yuuzhan Vong)
Dr. Evazan
Ponda Baba
Shada Dukul (Mistryl Shadow Guard, also gets around Tonnika sister issue)
Bom Vimdin
Tzizvvt
Mosep Binneed
Reegesk
Pello Scrambas
Solomahal
Arleil Schous
Danz Borin
Melas
Rycar Ryjerd
Swilla Corey
Jaina Solo, Sword of the Jedi (something in her late 20s?)
Jacen Solo, Darth Caedus
Bespin Han Solo
Lowbacca
Zekk, Jedi Knight (Dark Nest Trilogy or later)
Gamorrean Guard
Woof
Noghri (generic)
Garm Bel-Iblis
Nomi Sunrider
Thon of Ambria
Arca Jenth
That's my list. Put the EU stuff up higher knowing film stuff maybe more popular here to get it some points, and sacrificed some of it for my massive cantina. Also with some characters tried to be specific as to where in the saga the version I would look forward to.

Mad Slanted Powers
07-30-2009, 07:44 AM
May not like the sculpt, but already released.

Of course. I fixed the list and added the next two (because one of the next two, Delia Blue is on the way).

Droid
07-30-2009, 07:46 AM
I'm fine with just creating a list based on the choices MSP laid out above and then people being allowed to write in others. I do think this method highly weighs against those EU sources not available last time.

sebillba
07-30-2009, 08:43 AM
I think everyone submitting their own Top 30s would be the best way to go... but that's probably because I already compiled mine at the weekend. :D

I took the remains of the original results (from MSP's poll) as a starter, but then went back and searched out my own votes for all the peliminary rounds and found a lot more I wanted, then just had to whittle it down from there. I think mine is pretty much split down the middle for OT and PT, with just one EU character. I also had quite a few resculpts on my original list, but realised I'd rather see totally new characters first, so the ones that are still in my top 30 are right at the bottom.

El Chuxter
07-30-2009, 08:50 AM
The only problem with the EU part is that it leaves out such things as the Legacy comic, Force Unleashed video game, the latest novels, etc.

That's a plus in my book. Legacy, Legacy of the Force, and Fate of the Jedi are crap in my book. I'm not even going to use the word "carp," because they don't deserve that much credit. Fanboy fanfic by elementary kids made canon.

And, with Shaak Ti coming, don't we now have pretty much all the TFU figures we could want?

Blue2th
07-30-2009, 08:59 AM
I'd even be inclined to not include the new Clone Wars since it is fairly new and ongoing. We're bound to be getting a lot of the unmade ones that people really want before too long anyway.



I agree. The new Clone Wars characters seem to have no problem getting made. I looked at an old thread of Clone Wars "wants" and a lot of them have already been made or are in the works. http://www.sirstevesguide.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38998&highlight=clone+wars+figures+made

While a lot of the more obscure Micro Series characters probably are not good contenders for inclusion into an EU list. Particularly the Cauldron Warriors, though we're getting L8-L9 (there are a couple more droids in there we might get as BAD's) there are at least 5 figures I'd really like to see made, and would like as write ins, for sure the first 3:

Fordo- Coruscant Phase II armor
Arc Pilot - Muunilinst 10 (actually the whole crew of Arc's needs a repaint to match the Legacy Clone Gunner's more acurate blue)
Nelvaan Warrior w/ Techno Union mutations
General Orro Dassyne
Tarr Seirr

Cane_Adiss
07-30-2009, 11:27 AM
Here's some write-ins for the ROTS list:

Mon Calamari Dancer
Eeusu Estornii
Veedaaz Awmetth

Too many of those existing ROTS choices are extremely boring and the more interesting ones are already coming or are done already.

And for the ANH list:

Kal'Falnl C'ndros

ROTJ:

Loje Nella

And EU/Concept figs:

Revwien

Cane_Adiss
07-30-2009, 11:57 AM
My list, including the ones I mentioned above plus a couple maybe. Most are from MSP's lists.

1. Cane Adiss
2. Mon Calamari Dancer
3. Loje Nella
4. Kal'Falnl C'ndros
5. Jess
6. Revwien
7. Veedaaz Awmetth
8. Eeusu Estornii
9. Treva Horme
10. Wiorkettle
11. Tzizvvt
12. Solomahal
13. Attark
14. Arliel Schous
15. Mosep Binneed
16. Ket Maliss
17. Rogwa Wodrata
18. Shasa Tiel
19. Melas
20. Guri
21. Elan Mak
22. Aldar Beedo
23. Ebe Endocott
24. Ark "Bumpy" Roose
25. Ben Quadinaros
26. Toonbuck Toora
27. Reegesk
28. Kithaba
29. Mara Jade (Arica)
30. TT-8L

JediTricks
07-30-2009, 01:12 PM
Ok, I'm thinking we're going to run 2 different methods concurrently. For the next month, we'll have a "whatever you want in a big ol' list of 30" thread going, you can drop by any time and post your 30 there without any complex polling. This is nearly-useless junk polling that will give us nowhere near good enough statistical information, but we can at least use it as comparison against the other poll.

Separately, we're going to run a "phase 2-style" 3 week poll from the top results of our original figure poll from 2 years ago and that'll be a runoff to get a better handle on which figures are most wanted.

If you have a suggestion for Clone Wars figures for the second poll, please post them here: http://forums.sirstevesguide.com/showthread.php?t=40886

At the end, the results from each will be either combined or used separately if possible.


I could post the top 25 that remain from each of our previous movie polls, and the top 50 that remain from our EU poll and let people choose from that. If someone else wants to come up with a list of Clone Wars figure, we can include that.Thinking about it right now, I'm not sure there there are a lot of Clone Wars figures that need to be made, Hasbro's knocking a lot of these out fast. But I really would like to see the top 25 results from the previous polls in advance before I decide, that's probably how we're going to start it off.


If you definitely don't want people to submit more than 15 should we do it as one round, then I would be up for doing it this wayI'm not sure I understand what you mean here.


I was just going through my lists a day or two ago and checking off which ones had been made or confirmed. I'll post the top remaining figures from each poll here a little bit later. That way we can determine if I've missed any that need to be removed.Fabulous!

Ok, so I saw the list you posted, that's quite a list. I am not entirely comfortable with dumping 350 figures at voters at once, it would be hard to sort through. Oh master of numbers, do you think it would work if we gave them a choice of the top 15 from each source instead, and we seeded rounds 2 and 3 with whatever was culled from rounds 1 and 2, respectively? Also, if we did that, should we allow write-ins as well or would that throw a wrench into the works?



I'll start! :thumbsup:

1. Brea Tonnika
2. Senni Tonnika
3. Jabba with Dias (and better eye sculpt)Wow, your top 3 are all not going to make the list, that's amazing. :D Tonnikas are out, legal reasons, cannot make 'em, not going on our list. And Jabba with dais would not be a standard figure, so it's not going in this poll.



Here's a list of Micro Series characters
They are already making Sidious on Mecho Chair, K'Kruhk and L8-L9 so that's a start.
I could narrow it down to ones I really want and others secondary on my list, because there's some OTC and PTC characters I would vote for over some of these. But if anyone needs to know who's not been made from the Micro Series.
Realistic style only please:You'll need to rethink this, as they already made clear that Clone Wars figures will be done in animated style.


That Clone Wars series would have been covered in the previous polls. What we would need is a list from the new Clone Wars series to give it a fair shot.True dat! They were in the original EU figure poll we did, those phase 1 results are in the bag.


Why not use the movie polls you have and just have everyone vote for 5 Clone Wars and 5 Expanded Universe as write ins. Too many new EU characters have been created in comics, books, video games, etc since the old results. However, the movie votes should be ok because they haven't changed 9Uunless I missed something:shocked:). With only 5 each you won't get too many far fetched votes. Have that go on 10 days and then take the top 30 from each movie( this is already done), Clone Wars and EU and put them into a poll of 240. Have people vote for 10-20 choices. If you do anymore then that, it will take forever to tabulate. Also everyone will have to think really hard on who they really want.Tastes change, people's needs for certain figures are partly satiated by releases of other figures, or people's needs for certain figures are heightened by the release of other figures, and some of the results have been created so there's room at the top for a new fight. We're absolutely not going to run a full series though, don't worry, it's just that I'd like to take the original results and have the voters process the top results against each other again to get a new top 30 list.



The only problem with the EU part is that it leaves out such things as the Legacy comic, Force Unleashed video game, the latest novels, etc. Which are pretty popular. I would be fine with the choices from the original list,all my picks are there already, but I could see where some people could get miffed. Clone Wars though, some of the minor 1 show characters might not get made otherwise because I'm sure Hasbro is working on season 2 already.Based on what you're saying,



People will still be free to write in characters. On such short notice, we don't have time to re-poll everything.

At this point, I would be up for one of the following two possibilities:

1. Everyone submits a list of up to 25 or 30 figures. The top 30 in the poll will be our list.
2. Everyone submits a list of up to 10 or 15 figures. The top 10 make our list. Repeat two more times to get our 30 figures.But then I decided to do both. ;)



Can we vote for updated figures from the Droids & Ewoks Cartoon Series from the Mid 1980's? Be nice to have some of the original Kenner figures be remade today. Might never happen though. Not sure what Hasbro has ever said about redoing these lines. Anyone know Hasbro's answer/thoughts?Hasbro says that if they find the right format and there's interest, they would do them, so they're in. I doubt Hasbro thought about them when they started this, so whether these would be animated style or realistic style is yet to be determined.



2. Then I identified which figures I could not do without for my scenes - sorry JT, but the whole point of the Naboo Palace scene in AOTC is to meet with Queen Jamilla. I'll only buy 1 of her figures, but I must have it eventually. So she's on my final list. That type of thinking is why the line is dying. Just because she's in the movie doesn't make her something that will sell, you dedicate materials and shelf space to a loser like Jamilla and you can kiss the future of the line goodbye. Jamilla is a sacrifice, you get Jamilla and you risk all the other stuff that might come after it. For every turkey like Jamilla, it probably costs fans 5 other unique figures, and the only way to keep the line from tanking is to put out more Vaders and Lukes. So in essence, your type of "only what I want" thinking ends up causing the very problems you wish to avoid. But that's why it's the "Fans choose 1 figure", and not "Fans run the entire line" poll. ;)


PLEASE STOP SUBMITTING YOUR TOP 30 LISTS IN THIS THREAD! We have a thread for that. Top 30 is a waste of time but we're doing it anyway separately from the other poll, so go post there.

Mad Slanted Powers
07-30-2009, 06:25 PM
Ok, so I saw the list you posted, that's quite a list. I am not entirely comfortable with dumping 350 figures at voters at once, it would be hard to sort through. Oh master of numbers, do you think it would work if we gave them a choice of the top 15 from each source instead, and we seeded rounds 2 and 3 with whatever was culled from rounds 1 and 2, respectively? Also, if we did that, should we allow write-ins as well or would that throw a wrench into the works?Actually, it would only be 200 figures. If you want to break it down though, are you suggesting we just sort of redo phase 2 from last time, but with different parameters? Last time we offered the top 5 from each poll, and people voted for 5, and the top 5 made the list. Are you suggesting offering the top 15, and letting people select 10, and the top 10 make the list, then repeat twice to give us 30?

JediTricks
07-30-2009, 08:48 PM
Actually, it would only be 200 figures. If you want to break it down though, are you suggesting we just sort of redo phase 2 from last time, but with different parameters? Last time we offered the top 5 from each poll, and people voted for 5, and the top 5 made the list. Are you suggesting offering the top 15, and letting people select 10, and the top 10 make the list, then repeat twice to give us 30?Yeah, that sounds pretty much what I'm thinking. Basically:

Pick your top 10 in round 1


TPM results 1-15
AOTC results 1-15
ROTS results 1-15
ANH results 1-15
ESB results 1-15
ROTJ results 1-15
EU results 1-20 (factoring in the larger number of entries and wider net)
The Clone Wars suggestions 1-15 (assuming there's enough to fill, otherwise it goes in EU randomly)


We can allow write-ins if that's something you can deal with.

Sound good?


Let me see how it looks on the page with top 25 instead of 15...

TPM
1 - Tey How
2 - Ben Quadinaros
3 - Daultay Dofine
4 - Mawhonic
5 - Queen Amidala post senate black
6 - Kitster
7 - Wald
8 - Naboo Pilot in trenchcoat
9 - R5-X2
10 - Ann or Tan Gella
11 - Battle Droid (blue)
12 - Aldar Beedo
13 - Nute Gunray sitting on the walking throne
14 - PK worker droid
15 - G8-R3 (R5-A7)
16 - Boles Roor
17 - Ark "Bumpy" Roose
18 - Ebe Endocott
19 - Greblieps
20 - Captain Panaka
21 - Gardulla the Hutt
22 - Jira
23 - Kam Nale/Elan Mak
24 - Maoi Madakor
25 - Tikkes

AOTC
1 - Cliegg Lars
2 - Jocasta Nu
3 - Bariss Offee
4 - Queen Jamillia
5 - Padmé Yellow Picnic Dress
6 - Padmé Palpatine's Office
7 - Dormé
8 - Hermione Bagwa
9 - Padmé Refugee
10 - Padmé Backless Dress
11 - Cordé
12 - RIC-920
13 - Toonbuck Toora
14 - Tikkes
15 - Nyrat Agira
16 - Naboo Holy Man
17 - Rogwa Wodrata
18 - FA-4
19 - Padmé packing to leave
20 - Padmé Nightgown
21 - COO-2180
22 - Younglings
23 - Padmé Lars Garage Dress
24 - Anakin Jedi Robes
25 - Denaria Kee

ROTS
1 - Midwife Droid
2 - Owen Lars
3 - Padmé with hair buns
4 - Beru Lars
5 - Coleman Kcaj
6 - Cin Drallig
7 - BD-3000 luxury droid
8 - Padmé Funeral
9 - Padmé Senate Empire Declared
10 - Palpatine red SA
11 - Medical Droid GH-7
12 - IG-100 Magnaguard
13 - Nute Gunray
14 - Bulkier Polis Masson with helmet
15 - Bail Organa airspeeder pilot
16 - Apailana
17 - Lampay Fay
18 - Maneeli Tuun
19 - Rune Haako
20 - Palpatine duel with Yoda
21 - Padmé after Anakin turns
22 - Denaria Kee
23 - Sors Bandeam
24 - Padmé Hosptial Gown
25 - Padmé Green Gown

ANH
1 - Dr. Evazan
2 - Bom Vimdin
3 - Uncle Owen
4 - Tzizvvt
5 - Mosep Binneed
6 - Ponda Baba
7 - Baniss Keeg
8 - Reegesk
9 - Commander Praji
10 - Pello Scrambas
11 - Commander Willard
12 - Imperial Officer (grey uniform)
13 - Solomahal
14 - Arleil Schous
15 - Luke with removable stormtrooper belt
16 - WED-9 M1 Bantha droid
17 - Tiree - Gold 2
18 - Danz Borin
19 - Melas
20 - Davish "Pops" Krail - Gold 5
21 - Rycar Ryjerd
22 - Han Solo Yavin Ceremony
23 - R2 Green Horizontal Stripes - this one (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Unknown_R2_unit_%28Yavin%29)
24 - Swilla Corey
25 - Cantina Band Member

ESB
1 - Torynn Farr
2 - Han Solo Bespin
3 - Dak Ralter
4 - Wedge Snowspeeder
5 - Piett
6 - Vintage Hoth Rebel
7 - Leia Hoth
8 - Probe Droid
9 - Treva Horme
10 - Wiorkettle
11 - Sheckil
12 - E-3PO
13 - Obi-Wan spirit with hood up (Hoth)
14 - Lando Calrissian
15 - Leia Bespin Escape
16 - Luke Dagobah
17 - Lennox
18 - Bespin Guard – mustache
19 - Imperial Navy Crewman - will new Scanning Crew figure work for this as well?
20 - Holo Imperial Officer
21 - Luke Orange jumpsuit
22 - Merril
23 - Dengar
24 - Leia Bespin Gown
25 - Luke Hoth SA

ROTJ
1 - Wooof
2 - Sim Aloo
3 - Cane Adiss
4 - Sgt. Doallyn
5 - Gamorrean Guard
6 - Admiral Ackbar
7 - Lumat
8 - Kithaba
9 - Taym Dren-garen
10 - Jess
11 - Warok
12 - Yoda Spirit
13 - Shasa Tiel
14 - Nien Nunb - the one in ROTJ wave looks more like Ten Nunb B-Wing Pilot
15 - Nikto Skiff 2 Vintage
16 - TT-8L
17 - Geezum
18 - Funeral Pyre Vader
19 - Wicket
20 - Fozec
21 - 2nd Weequay
22 - Worrt
23 - Nik Sant
24 - Lando Endor
25 - Oola

EU
1 - Guri
2 - Joruus C'baoth
3 - Pellaeon
4 - Nom Anor
5 - Admiral Daala
6 - Leebo
7 - Anakin Solo
8 - Nomi Sunrider
9 - Ysanne Isard
10 - Noghri
11 - Kyp Duron
12 - Mara Jade Skywalker
13 - Ben Skywalker
14 - Tenel Ka Djo
15 - Teek
16 - Lumpawarrump
17 - Lowbacca
18 - Dash Rendar
19 - Montross
20 - Winter
21 - Leia Organa Solo older
22 - Mallatobuck
23 - Tahiri Veila
24 - Siri Tachi
25 - Han Solo older
26 - Rukh
27 - Darth Plagueis
28 - Anakin Solo Jedi
29 - Attichitcuk
30 - Tsavong Lah
31 - Jaster Mereel
32 - Cindel Towani
33 - Kneesa
* - Ackmena - off limits for this poll
34 - Vergere
35 - Noa Briqualon
36 - Bastila Shan
37 - Khabarakh
38 - Jaxxon
39 - Garm Bel Iblis
40 - Jagged Fel
41 - Kam Solusar
42 - Chukha-Trok
43 - Komari Vosa
44 - Jaina Solo Pilot
45 - Luke Skywalker older
46 - Voort “Piggy” saBingring
47 - Dathomir Nightsister
48 - Mara Jade (Arica)
49 - Roz
50 - Mirax Terrik

See, I look at that and I imagine what happens when a perspective voter tries to go fishing through that mess, 15 each would look neater. Even shrunk to font size 1, it's pretty hard to look at and not feel daunted. But, by that same token, I do understand that having more options might be fairer, even if they didn't fare well in their own polls. I dunno, any opinions and advice would be appreciated.

Mad Slanted Powers
07-30-2009, 10:27 PM
I just noticed that I still had Greblieps on the TPM list so I added "Eirtaé - Naboo battle – Blonde Handmaiden" to the list.

Darth Jax
07-30-2009, 10:29 PM
hopefully hasbro will learn from past experience (yarna) and realize that just because fan support seems behind a character that it doesn't mean it'll fly off the pegs in huge numbers.

since there is an entire line devoted to the clone wars, and only 1 season (so far), it seems pretty pointless to be requesting those figures already.

Qui-Long Gone
07-31-2009, 01:18 PM
JT, you are a smart guy, but you're confusing me....yesterday you said stop posting your 30, then you posted 25 from each series.

Could you clarify for me:

1.) What (or where) do you want us to post?

2.) How will we score points per figure request?

If we're doing rounds, that sounds like a good start!

*JT, I realize that's what you're trying to do on this thread, but I'm not sure if we're solving anything. :yes:

If our collective energy is going towards top 30 figures for Hasbro, don't you all agree we should try to get some better figures of main characters and not just obscure (albeit cool) characters? Some of these lists (not to knock what's important to individuals) strike me as probable top 30 pegwarmmers. Can we not all agree to fight for our rights to better Luke Skywalkers for example?

Droid
07-31-2009, 02:18 PM
If our collective energy is going towards top 30 figures for Hasbro, don't you all agree we should try to get some better figures of main characters and not just obscure (albeit cool) characters? Some of these lists (not to knock what's important to individuals) strike me as probable top 30 pegwarmmers. Can we not all agree to fight for our rights to better Luke Skywalkers for example?

I don't agree with that AT ALL! They are going to keep doing the main characters over and over and over. At some point they will hit a good sculpt of all of them. This poll may be an obscure character's only shot! Hasbro will get a list of figures. I think they are only promising to make one of them. They can set about keeping their business afloat how they see fit. I am not concerned with anything other than telling them the figures I most want (minus the Tonnikas).

Qui-Long Gone
07-31-2009, 02:22 PM
^Let me clarify that I'm not saying I don't want any of these obscure figures...I agree we want every SW figure they'll make! But aren't you tired of pegwarmers and not getting good figures of main characters? What's the balance?

Droid
07-31-2009, 02:32 PM
I think the problem is that we voted "MAKE A REALLY GOOD DSII LUKE" in the last poll and years later we got a figure most people don't like. Hasbro thinks all the figures we think are terrible are great. So I think we accomplish nothing by nominating figures they already made several times, that they intend to make again, when they can't see that Jango isn't purple.

JediTricks
07-31-2009, 02:35 PM
JT, you are a smart guy, but you're confusing me....yesterday you said stop posting your 30, then you posted 25 from each series.We're running 2 polls, that's why you're confused, you missed that part of my post. I'm about to start the version with the 7 top 25s against each other on Sunday.


Could you clarify for me:

1.) What (or where) do you want us to post?Top 30 list goes here:
http://forums.sirstevesguide.com/showthread.php?t=40891

The active drill-down, 3-round poll series will start Sunday, and that'll be our main focus once it gets going.


2.) How will we score points per figure request?Tallying will be handled by rank, you just rank them how much you want them, and the tallymaster will assign points based on their rank, the higher the rank, the more points it gets. It's a lot easier to put into a spreadsheet that way, and easier for voters to understand a ranked list too.


If we're doing rounds, that sounds like a good start!

*JT, I realize that's what you're trying to do on this thread, but I'm not sure if we're solving anything. :yes:

If our collective energy is going towards top 30 figures for Hasbro, don't you all agree we should try to get some better figures of main characters and not just obscure (albeit cool) characters? Some of these lists (not to knock what's important to individuals) strike me as probable top 30 pegwarmmers. Can we not all agree to fight for our rights to better Luke Skywalkers for example?That's what makes it "fans choice", we'll see what the fans want, not just you and me with main characters, but other fans too. When it's all mixed together, that'll give a rounded idea of what the whole fan community wants.

Qui-Long Gone
07-31-2009, 11:40 PM
^Got it....the fans have usually been dead on and most of the fan figures have been steller...Ephont Mon for example!

Tycho
08-01-2009, 03:46 AM
That's what makes it "fans choice", we'll see what the fans want, not just you and me with main characters, but other fans too. When it's all mixed together, that'll give a rounded idea of what the whole fan community wants.

Like the Naboo Holy Man with Proton Torpedo Launcher!!!

That figure will be a hoot!

Darth Jax
08-01-2009, 07:40 AM
don't forget that they'll give him ninja-chopping action too...

JediTricks
08-02-2009, 12:25 PM
Hey, I'm culling "Younglings" from Ep 2, that's not specific enough.

And "Gardulla the Hutt" from Ep 1, that's too big to be a figure.

So if you could supply new figs for each slot, that'd be great.

I've also pulled Lumpawarrump and Mallatobuck, but already have replacements.

Mad Slanted Powers
08-02-2009, 12:55 PM
Hey, I'm culling "Younglings" from Ep 2, that's not specific enough.

And "Gardulla the Hutt" from Ep 1, that's too big to be a figure.

So if you could supply new figs for each slot, that'd be great.

I've also pulled Lumpawarrump and Mallatobuck, but already have replacements.

Let's see, I believe the last one on the list I provided was Denaria Kee, so next would be the deleted scene Senate Padmé. However, in the original AOTC poll, I specified two younglings - J.K. Burtola (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/J.K._Burtola) and Liam (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Liam), since the first had a speaking part, and the other was named on screen. Next after deleted Padmé would be a Jar Jar remake.

The last on the TPM list was Eirtaé, so the next up would be another podracer, Wan Sandage.

JediTricks
08-02-2009, 02:05 PM
Let's see, I believe the last one on the list I provided was Denaria Kee, so next would be the deleted scene Senate Padmé. However, in the original AOTC poll, I specified two younglings - J.K. Burtola (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/J.K._Burtola) and Liam (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Liam), since the first had a speaking part, and the other was named on screen. Oh, I didn't realize you had specified names on them somewhere else. That's fine, I'll put them back in the list with those names specified.



The last on the TPM list was Eirtaé, so the next up would be another podracer, Wan Sandage.Thanks.

JediTricks
08-03-2009, 02:02 PM
I need 2 more ROTJ figures, someone pointed out that Hasbro committed to doing Wooof in 2010, and you pointed out that Adm Ackbar is committed for 2011.

Also another ANH because "R2 Green Horizontal Stripes - this one (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Unknown_R2_unit_%28Yavin%29)" is being made this year.

Mad Slanted Powers
08-03-2009, 06:38 PM
I need 2 more ROTJ figures, someone pointed out that Hasbro committed to doing Wooof in 2010, and you pointed out that Adm Ackbar is committed for 2011.

Also another ANH because "R2 Green Horizontal Stripes - this one (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Unknown_R2_unit_%28Yavin%29)" is being made this year.


ANH - Boelo

ROTJ - Vedain, Attark

Droid
08-03-2009, 08:33 PM
I need 2 more ROTJ figures, someone pointed out that Hasbro committed to doing Wooof in 2010, and you pointed out that Adm Ackbar is committed for 2011.

Are we required to revote on Wooof and similar characters? I know they have said Bom Vimdin and Wooof are coming, but I still voted for them. Wooof was supposed to come out this year; he got pushed back. They announced Cyborg Maul, where is he? They produced the Eopie and I never got one. I'm voting for those characters that I've never seen a picture of because Hasbro sometimes shifts stuff and then we dont' see it.

Let me know if I need to revote on something.

EDIT:

While you are at it, Bom Vimdin is confirmed:

http://www.sandtroopers.com/smf/index.php?topic=5183.msg227001#msg227001

January 30, 2009

2) This coming wave of New Hope figures have given us, the fans, 4 more Mos Eisley/Cantina aliens, and Kudos to you because I always wondered what Dice Ibegon would look like with a body. We have Trinto, Dice, Pons (Brainiac) and Wioslea, but we are missing ONE last crucial alien for the cantina. I am of course referring to BOM VIMDIM. Wheres the figure love for are favorite horned patron?

There are a couple more significant Cantina aliens coming this Fall, but Bom won't be among them. Right now, we think you can look for him near the end of 2010 as long as things stay on schedule.

However, I think the last part of Hasbro's comments proves my point. Things don't always stay on schedule. I think votes should not be culled and people should vote for who they want to be sure Hasbro makes. I think people should decide if they want to vote for Ackbar, Bom, a Gamorrean, or Woof knowing they are LIKELY to get them anyway.

That said, could you please clarify if votes for Wooof and the others count or if they are thrown out as no votes? If they are thrown out I will make new choices. If they count I will leave them. And does this apply to both lists, the "name your top 30" and the "rank your top 10"?

Mad Slanted Powers
08-03-2009, 08:44 PM
The Eopie is just being offered now, as the new packaging comes with a form to send away for it. 5 UPC's and $6.99 ($8.99 Canadian). Requests must be postmarked by March 31, 2010 (Received by April 8). Allow 6-8 weeks for delivery.

bigbarada
08-03-2009, 09:38 PM
It's awesome news that the Gamorrean Guard and Bom Vimdim might actually be added to the confirmed list, but I'm running out of characters to vote for in the regular poll who aren't write ins. :cross-eye

sebillba
08-04-2009, 08:43 AM
There are a couple more significant Cantina aliens coming this Fall, but Bom won't be among them. Right now, we think you can look for him near the end of 2010 as long as things stay on schedule.


I was very pleased when I saw this response some time ago, but it's still too vague for me, so I'm leaving him as my number 1 most wanted.

JediTricks
08-04-2009, 01:40 PM
ANH - Boelo

ROTJ - Vedain, AttarkThanks a bunch. I'm gonna need yet another ROTJ figure, I'm cutting the Gamorrean Guard.



Are we required to revote on Wooof and similar characters? I know they have said Bom Vimdin and Wooof are coming, but I still voted for them. Wooof was supposed to come out this year; he got pushed back. They announced Cyborg Maul, where is he? They produced the Eopie and I never got one. I'm voting for those characters that I've never seen a picture of because Hasbro sometimes shifts stuff and then we dont' see it.

Let me know if I need to revote on something.

EDIT:

While you are at it, Bom Vimdin is confirmed:

http://www.sandtroopers.com/smf/index.php?topic=5183.msg227001#msg227001

January 30, 2009

2) This coming wave of New Hope figures have given us, the fans, 4 more Mos Eisley/Cantina aliens, and Kudos to you because I always wondered what Dice Ibegon would look like with a body. We have Trinto, Dice, Pons (Brainiac) and Wioslea, but we are missing ONE last crucial alien for the cantina. I am of course referring to BOM VIMDIM. Wheres the figure love for are favorite horned patron?

There are a couple more significant Cantina aliens coming this Fall, but Bom won't be among them. Right now, we think you can look for him near the end of 2010 as long as things stay on schedule.

However, I think the last part of Hasbro's comments proves my point. Things don't always stay on schedule. I think votes should not be culled and people should vote for who they want to be sure Hasbro makes. I think people should decide if they want to vote for Ackbar, Bom, a Gamorrean, or Woof knowing they are LIKELY to get them anyway.

That said, could you please clarify if votes for Wooof and the others count or if they are thrown out as no votes? If they are thrown out I will make new choices. If they count I will leave them. And does this apply to both lists, the "name your top 30" and the "rank your top 10"?First, let me address your main question, what happens to votes for Wooof and other figures taken off the list. Anything committed to in the next 18 months is not going to make our final list, those votes will be tossed because it makes no sense to vote for something that already is underway. This would apply to both versions of the list, it's not fair to dedicate slots to figures that are already being planned.

As for Bom Vimdin, that's the line I'm not ready to cross, I had already seen that answer and Hasbro's inability to commit to the figure means it's still on the bubble IMO. It's a close call, I know, but there are just too many conditional clauses in the answer, and the timeline on it means it's not yet in any stage of production except maybe budgeting. It's really really close, and I will understand if folks don't want to vote for it for just that reason, but I'm not ready to call it in the bag yet.

Robo-Maul is on track for comic-packs, that whole line is backed up so it's not there yet. Keep in mind, the sculpt shown in the Insider was a raw sculpt, not yet tooled, so it had a lot of time before it was to come out anyway.

Mad Slanted Powers
08-04-2009, 06:46 PM
Thanks a bunch. I'm gonna need yet another ROTJ figure, I'm cutting the Gamorrean Guard. After Vedain and Attark is Laudica. She already had a couple votes already.

JediTricks
08-07-2009, 04:16 PM
Thanks. Dang, I can't believe I missed this post until now, oh well. She's on the list now.

Any of your lists getting short on candidates, perhaps ESB? If we somehow took 10 figures off the ESB list for winning spots 1-10, would we have 10 more to fill it for round 2?

Mad Slanted Powers
08-07-2009, 06:30 PM
Thanks. Dang, I can't believe I missed this post until now, oh well. She's on the list now.

Any of your lists getting short on candidates, perhaps ESB? If we somehow took 10 figures off the ESB list for winning spots 1-10, would we have 10 more to fill it for round 2?
There will be plenty for each. I can just go down the list of the original polls to the dreg figures if we need to.

JediTricks
08-09-2009, 11:21 AM
You mean you're not already?!? :eek:

Mad Slanted Powers
08-09-2009, 01:26 PM
You mean you're not already?!? :eek:

Not quite. There are a few in there, but there are also a lot of good ones that I think should be higher, at least on the EU list. Bastila Shan is doing well in the top 30 poll thread, but she is still a few more places down the list in the original EU poll.

JediTricks
08-09-2009, 01:34 PM
Man, that's a scary thought, some of the stuff on these lists I wouldn't even scrape off my shoe.

JediTricks
08-09-2009, 01:37 PM
Well, it looks like we need to keep a running list of figures that are confirmed and shouldn't be voted for. I'll put it in the opening post of the next one, not in list form though as it takes up too much space.

JediTricks
08-09-2009, 01:49 PM
I just changed Sheckil's name to "Lt. Sheckil", someone posted a vote for him that way, and even though he doesn't come up on Wookieepedia under his rank, it does mention it there. I think more folks will consider him when they realize he's not an alien.

agentorange1976
08-09-2009, 03:42 PM
Just a thought: does it make sense to count votes for Funeral Pyre Vader when Hasbro proposed him as part of a battle pack and we're proposing basic carded figures?

D

JediTricks
08-09-2009, 04:45 PM
The Funeral Pyre Vader shown at Comic-Con is an unproduced prototype, it even had a card asking fans if they should make it. I'm not trying to make format choices for this list, some of the figures that were in the last fans choice poll ended up coming out in alternate methods such as comic packs. But what better way to tell Hasbro whether or not we want Funeral Pyre Vader than by including it on our list? They are basic-sized figures, that's the only restriction I'm putting on these for now, they have to be something that COULD fit on a basic card or similar format. That's the difference between that vote and a Hutt, we're not putting Rancors or Tauntauns on these lists.



On another matter, I goofed allowing Commander Fox onto our list and am cutting him now, using another figure from the CW pool.

agentorange1976
08-09-2009, 05:48 PM
They are basic-sized figures, that's the only restriction I'm putting on these for now, they have to be something that COULD fit on a basic card or similar format.

Yeah, what the heck—if they can fit Ephant Mon on a card, why not a pyre? I think this is a great idea, but if they go through with it, I hope they can sharpen the definition of the flames. Anyway, gettin' off-topic, sorry.

D

JediTricks
08-15-2009, 01:13 PM
There's been a gajillion "allllllmost" answers for Bom Vimdin being confirmed, and JabbaJohn has brought up another one which hasn't been posted on their site but is now on the Hasbro round-up:

http://forums.sirstevesguide.com/showpost.php?p=692146&postcount=111

Honestly, I'm beginning to think we should cut Bom Vimdin from our list. I know that's not going to be a popular choice what with him being #3 at the top and all, it'll be very difficult to figure out how to appropriately fill that void (kick the rest up and we have round 1 giving us 1-9, but include the 11th figure from there and round 2's results will be tainted). Or maybe we should leave well enough alone.

Thoughts?

bigbarada
08-15-2009, 01:17 PM
I just looked at my top 30 and noticed that it has 4 characters who have been confirmed in one way or another (Gamorrean, Wooof, Ackbar, Bom Vimdim). I'm assuming I need to redo my list.

JediTricks
08-15-2009, 01:22 PM
You don't HAVE to, the tallymaster can adjust your list so it'd have blank slots at the end, but it probably is a good idea.

We haven't decided on Bom Vimdin yet though, so you may want to wait to post your final list until that decision is made.

Mad Slanted Powers
08-15-2009, 01:38 PM
For the top 30 poll, we can just take the next ones after #30. For the 3 round poll, if you take off a figure that has already made the list, we can just have the final round be the top 11 that make it (or however many is needed to get to 30).

Droid
08-15-2009, 02:08 PM
There's been a gajillion "allllllmost" answers for Bom Vimdin being confirmed, and JabbaJohn has brought up another one which hasn't been posted on their site but is now on the Hasbro round-up:

http://forums.sirstevesguide.com/showpost.php?p=692146&postcount=111

Honestly, I'm beginning to think we should cut Bom Vimdin from our list. I know that's not going to be a popular choice what with him being #3 at the top and all, it'll be very difficult to figure out how to appropriately fill that void (kick the rest up and we have round 1 giving us 1-9, but include the 11th figure from there and round 2's results will be tainted). Or maybe we should leave well enough alone.

Thoughts?

Please leave him there. Next year is the 30th of Empire. I could see Han being the one they are talking about and them pushing Bom yet again. They warned us we'd get him - if things held. We're submitting 30 to Hasbro; it isn't like if one is one they intended to do we wasted our voice - we still have 29. I don't want Hasbro to think interest in Bom waned.

EDIT: Besides, everyone who voted for him KNEW he was very strongly suspected and still wanted to send that message to Hasbro. Let's keep sending that message.

sebillba
08-15-2009, 03:52 PM
Please leave him there. Next year is the 30th of Empire. I could see Han being the one they are talking about and them pushing Bom yet again. They warned us we'd get him - if things held. We're submitting 30 to Hasbro; it isn't like if one is one they intended to do we wasted our voice - we still have 29. I don't want Hasbro to think interest in Bom waned.

EDIT: Besides, everyone who voted for him KNEW he was very strongly suspected and still wanted to send that message to Hasbro. Let's keep sending that message.

My sentiments exactly. They still haven't given an absolute confirmation on him, so we don't want to give them the wrong message, and they end up scrapping him or shelving him for a few more years because they think he's no longer wanted.

JediTricks
08-15-2009, 04:07 PM
For the top 30 poll, we can just take the next ones after #30. For the 3 round poll, if you take off a figure that has already made the list, we can just have the final round be the top 11 that make it (or however many is needed to get to 30).That makes sense. It'll be a lot more obvious come 7pm tonight, I can't wait to see how the second set of results matches up to the first.


Please leave him there. Next year is the 30th of Empire. I could see Han being the one they are talking about and them pushing Bom yet again. They warned us we'd get him - if things held. We're submitting 30 to Hasbro; it isn't like if one is one they intended to do we wasted our voice - we still have 29. I don't want Hasbro to think interest in Bom waned.

EDIT: Besides, everyone who voted for him KNEW he was very strongly suspected and still wanted to send that message to Hasbro. Let's keep sending that message.


My sentiments exactly. They still haven't given an absolute confirmation on him, so we don't want to give them the wrong message, and they end up scrapping him or shelving him for a few more years because they think he's no longer wanted.Duly noted.