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DarthQuack
12-04-2009, 01:16 PM
I know I'm not the only one interested in this.....hopefully.:rolleyes:

The draw was today and the USA got a great draw, with England, Slovenia and Algeria in their group. Hopefully they should be able to advance to the knockout stage.

Here's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_World_Cup) a good place to go to see the draw and matchups. :thumbsup:

DarkJedi5
12-04-2009, 01:26 PM
Yeah, it's a great group to be in because I think England is really overrated and I'd love to beat them. I know CONCACAF has some patsies but it seems like England qualified against some of Europe's least threatening teams. Now I just have to wait like 180 days.

Bel-Cam Jos
12-05-2009, 10:50 AM
I get interested once the event itself starts. I don't follow intn'l soc-football :rolleyes: enough to know who's good, who's awesome, and who's there by default.

DarkJedi5
12-05-2009, 01:05 PM
Who's awesome: Spain, Brasil, Netherlands, Italy and Portugal

Who's good:Germany, France, Argentina, England, Cameroon, Greece, United States, Mexico, Cote d'Ivoire, Chile, Switzerland and Uruguay

Who's pretty good: Serbia, Australia, Nigeria, Denmark, Algeria, Paraguay, Slovenia, Slovakia, Ghana, Honduras and Japan

Who's there by default: South Korea, New Zealand, North Korean and South Africa

Darth Jax
12-05-2009, 01:45 PM
i followed Team USA back when i had cable. now i only get scores from the internets

DarthQuack
06-10-2010, 01:17 PM
Less than 24 hours away from when most billions of people on the planet will all start to root on their countries towards the World Cup.

I personally can't wait. :) Really looking forward to the USA vs England match on Saturday.

Here's a bracket (http://a.espncdn.com/prod/assets/worldcup2010/bracket/wc-bracket-us.pdf) for those wanting to keep track of things over the course of a month of futbol.

sonofsokol
06-10-2010, 02:56 PM
Article from ESPN.com

Referees learning English swear words (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/world-cup/story/_/id/5270852/ce/us/referees-learning-english-swear-words?cc=3888&ver=global)

I can't wait.

Darth Metalmute
06-10-2010, 03:51 PM
Soccer must be the only sport where they demand the athletes to behave better than the fans.

DarkJedi5
06-10-2010, 04:26 PM
I'm really looking forward to Saturday. I've got a group taking over an entire restaurant for the match against England. It's gonna be a blast. I hate Wayne Rooney so beating England would be fun on like, a dozen levels.

Maradona
06-10-2010, 08:58 PM
I'm so excited. I'll be broadcasting the games in my classroom tomorrow. The kids know where to go every four years. It's the last week of school anyhow. Both games tomorrow should be interesting and heated. The big one of the weekend is USA vs ENG. I truly think USA has a better chance to win it than many give them credit for.

Bel-Cam Jos
06-11-2010, 10:44 PM
Desmond Tutu is full of energy! He's on the (obviously delayed) World Cup Opening Ceremony on ABC right now.

TeeEye7
06-12-2010, 03:26 AM
Go South Korea!

Darth Jax
06-12-2010, 09:17 AM
managed to catch most of game 1 (saw the entire first half and bits of second), while at work. didn't manage to see any of game 2 as i was stuck in meetings yesterday.

looking forward to USA/England later today.

DarthQuack
06-12-2010, 11:08 AM
Was Greece the favorite in this? I was kind of surprised to see S. Korea take them down...Power was out since last night :( So I just caught the 2nd half of Argentina/Germany.

Bel-Cam Jos
06-12-2010, 02:02 PM
About 3 1/2 minutes in: Enguland 1, Estados Unidos 0. :( But the US has had better scoring chances since.

[update] Soft goal = goal nonetheless. :thumbsup: Now 1-1. :D

DarthQuack
06-12-2010, 06:35 PM
I'll take that 1-1 tie as a victory, thanks Green! ;)

Maradona
06-13-2010, 12:15 AM
When watching in England goalkeeper mishandle the eventual goal by Dempsey, my friend said it was a good we learn to use our hands in the USA. That tie allows the US to maybe win their group and avoid potentially playing Germany in the next round.

Bel-Cam Jos
06-13-2010, 09:42 AM
That tie allows the US to maybe win their group and avoid potentially playing Germany in the next round.Heard on the radio that when the group was announced, a British paper headline read: "EASY: England, Algeria, Slovenia, Yanks;" clever. But the draw helps both those teams now. How do they handle tie-breakers if every game is a draw, with the same goals (or lack thereof) scored each time? Alphabetical? (that stinks for USA and Slovenia then :rolleyes: )

And, by your user name, may I assume you might root for Argentina and its coach?

DarkJedi5
06-13-2010, 11:55 AM
Okay, so if it's all draws (which it won't be because Slovenia has won, which is good for the US) the tie breaker is goal differential. Because all the games in this hypothetical are ties the goal differential for every team is 0. So it then goes to goals scored. That could produce the top two teams but they would likely have the same goals differential and so it would go to goals against. As long as all of the draws don't have the same score then this should produce the winner and second place teams.

But if all of the games in the group tie 1-1 then, I kid you not, I believe it goes to a coin toss. They pair England and the US and toss a coin, then Slovenia and Algeria and flip a coin.

But, since Slovenia has won they lead the group and it cannot be all draws. It the US can beat the too weaker teams in the group they are guaranteed to advance. Because England picked up so many yellows in the first match, they are going to have to be careful because those do accumulate in the group stage and so they may have to play without some of their players in the latter games in the the stage.

Maradona
06-13-2010, 04:47 PM
And, by your user name, may I assume you might root for Argentina and its coach?

I root for creative football, which, when they want to, Argentina can play. I respect the TRUE Maradona's on field performance, but cannot get behind anything else related to him, coaching included. It would be quite a story if he could coax his team to victory.

Darth Metalmute
06-14-2010, 07:36 AM
I flipped in here and there for a few minutes to games over the weekend.

Today, I am seeing a specialist for hearing loss.
http://g.sports.yahoo.com/soccer/world-cup/blog/dirty-tackle/post/Vuvuzelas-might-yet-be-banned-from-World-Cup?urn=sow,247947

Bel-Cam Jos
06-14-2010, 05:33 PM
Lately, instead of the Man of the Match voting that ESPN promotes towards the end of each match, there might be a Goat of the Game instead (and the alliteration could continue with many of them being goalies). :(

Maradona
06-16-2010, 01:14 AM
Inspirational team of the cup so far HAS to be North Korea. I never thought I'd type that sentence, but those boys played for their lives -- maybe literally. I read that their government liaison asked the hotel they are staying in to reserve their entire floor throughout the cup, preventing anyone from coming up or going down. All their players must be served Korean rice to eat. It would not surprise me if the players are playing under threat to themselves or their families. This is the one team that is not comprised entirely of well paid professionals. I found it difficult not to root for them and will continue to do so.

Bel-Cam Jos
06-16-2010, 10:28 AM
I liked how the announcers were talking about the 3-points for the victory for Brasil and how dominant they looked and how they'd control the group, then once N.Korea scored it turned into "uh-oh." But then NK didn't press the attack, except for one shot on goal. Still, good game.

Maradona
06-16-2010, 11:36 AM
The Swiss did not miss...much, but still won. Upset of the Cup so far. This potentially sets up a enticing second round match up between Spain and Brazil.

sonofsokol
06-16-2010, 12:09 PM
I lived in Brasil for 2 years and happened to be there during the World Cup in 1998 when France beat Brasil in the final. Every game down there was a HUGE party with fireworks, churrasco (Brasiliam BBQ), and all the good stuff. When they lost to France people went crazy... it was a national tragedy.

I watched the Brasil vs North Korea game on delay yesterday. It was crazy to see the the Brasilians struggle against the Koreans. They (the Koreans) played great defense and gave Brasil a lot better game than anybody, espcially Brasil, expected. I can just imagine the reaction of the fans in Brasil to that game. They expect a lot more out of their team that that.

I guess I'm still shocked that Ronaldinho did not get selected for the team. I was living in Porto Alegre where Gremio, his club team, was located. He was phenominal... of course that was 12 years ago.:Ponder:

jjreason
06-16-2010, 05:01 PM
I just wish there were more ties. One team actually beating another during sporting events is plain silly.

Bel-Cam Jos
06-16-2010, 05:10 PM
Why are soccer players so artistic on the pitch?
Because draw-ing happens so much.I had already requested all ties in group play, with there being no goal differential differences, too. I'll be honest, I'm not a big soccer/football fan, nor very knowledgeable on the international game, but the games I've seen so far have appeared to be pretty good and competetive to me.

Bel-Cam Jos
06-18-2010, 10:11 AM
Nice goal from semi-local boy Landon Donovan to close to within 1 goal; mind the gap, USA. They don't look desperate, but they are playing with more determination now.

[update]Tied up with ten minutes left!

Darth Metalmute
06-18-2010, 12:43 PM
I can't remember a game like that ever.
Emotionally going from depression, to pure jubilation, to enraged anger.

"I wouldn't have made that call" - Jim Joyce

sebillba
06-18-2010, 01:32 PM
I'm not really a footie fan, but am kind of watching the England matches... the highlight for me was this awesome Adidas ad that was shown in one of the breaks... you have to check this out!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Zd_khk6zXo

DarthQuack
06-18-2010, 02:01 PM
Great comeback for the USA...although I wasn't a fan of that ref.....and when Bradley was getting mugged...I mean HUGGED on the goal that was nullified.... grrrrrrrrr

DarkJedi5
06-18-2010, 02:06 PM
Between the US game and the Germany game today has been an abysmal day for refereeing.

Darth Metalmute
06-18-2010, 02:08 PM
With all the flopping that happens in soccer that gets called, I can't believe that didn't and yet got called against the U.S.

Did you see that guy that got red carded for "kicking" that chump on the sidelines. It's a joke.

Maradona
06-18-2010, 06:47 PM
FIFA needs to add instant replay. Ridiculous errors are part of the lore of the game, just think of my screen name, but they have no professional excuse for existence.

DarkJedi5
06-18-2010, 06:56 PM
I don't understand why some video review is not permitted. Hockey is just as fluid a sport as soccer and the NHL has been able to integrate it seamlessly into the sport for the review of goals.

Personally the biggest reason I would like to see video replay added to soccer is to eliminate diving. This is another thing the NHL uses replay for and I think it's brilliant. Basically, if a player dives in the game the NHL reviews the tape afterwards and if the ref missed it the player is fined. Soccer could use a similar system, when it is clear in a video replay that a player dove, you issue a yellow card. This could even be done after the game as referees are allowed to issue cards for incidents that occur on the pitch even after time has run out. Imagine a player getting a second yellow for a dive and having to miss out on the next game, it could really change the way some teams/players play the game (looking at you Italy and Mexico).

Maradona
06-20-2010, 05:07 PM
The Brazil match today, YET AGAIN shows why FIFA needs the instant replay. Two clear handballs on the second goal and an exaggeration on the red card show to Kaka (poetic justice, in my opinion) show the need for the referees to be able to review controversial incidences.

Darth Metalmute
06-21-2010, 08:03 AM
Here's what I don't get. A soccer field dimensions are between 110x70 yards and 120x80 yards. There are twenty four players on the field usually tightly congested. 3 referees govern the sport with two of them being on each sideline. In football, the field dimensions are 110x53.3 yards. There are twenty two people on the field tightly congested. Yet 7 referees govern that sport. Would it hurt soccer to add a couple of pairs of eyes?

DarkJedi5
06-21-2010, 08:43 AM
The advantage football has is that the plays stop. At which point the refs can confer on what they really saw. There would be no way to throw a flag in soccer and then wait maybe ten minutes for a throw-in for the refs to get together and decide what the call was and then rewind the game to give the appropriate penalty. Europe puts one extra referee behind each goal to help judge from there and I think that's about all you can do. I guess you could add another floating referee like in hockey with two refs and two assistant refs but any more that that would be too many.

Maradona
06-21-2010, 09:02 AM
If FIFA added two more refs, one around each goal line, and gave them and the linesman equal power to enforce rules and dish out cards, then replay might not be needed allowing the flow of the game to run uninterrupted, which is FIFA's constant complaint against replay. If I had to predict, that's as far as FIFA would go, though in today's technological day and age, it should and easily could go further, at least in the World Cup.

DarthQuack
06-21-2010, 10:39 AM
Yowza...Portugal took care of North Korea 7-0 today!

Maradona
06-22-2010, 03:50 PM
Messi is magic! He hasn't scored yet, but he is a walking highlight film.

DarthQuack
06-23-2010, 08:34 AM
Let's go USA, get it done!!!

DarkJedi5
06-23-2010, 09:41 AM
Another goal stolen. We'd better win this one or it would be bad news for US soccer, casual fans will never come back to the sport after seeing how bad the refereeing can be.

Bel-Cam Jos
06-23-2010, 10:59 AM
Wow. WOW. WOW! A stoppage time goal, and a nice goal at that. :thumbsup: From "will we even advance" to winning the group? Amazing.

DarthQuack
06-23-2010, 11:36 AM
Unbelievable game and goal.....very happy with the fact that they won, moved on, and WON the group.....how about that! Going from being out to winning the group in a heartbeat!

Maradona
06-23-2010, 12:17 PM
Donovan is such a clutch player! This is historic. I was sure it was over after we missed so many chances. What a massive relief his goal was.

Darth Metalmute
06-23-2010, 12:20 PM
Great day and goal for the U.S.

Bad day for FIFA. It's time to add a couple more refs.

DarthQuack
06-23-2010, 03:55 PM
So we dodge Germany and get Ghana.....by no means an easy game. Should be very entertaining come Saturday.

Maradona
06-23-2010, 11:53 PM
While no game is easy at this stage and all games lack guarantees, the US has the easiest path to the semi-finals of any team that qualified for the round of 16. Check the brackets. Should the US defeat Ghana, they would play the winner of South Korea and Uruguay. While by no means docile opponents, they are accessible. Once the US gets to the semis, anything can happen.

Maradona
06-24-2010, 11:39 AM
What a World Cup! Italy goes out too. I feel truly sorry for New Zealand, whom I was rooting for. Those guys played with heart and go home undefeated. Now I root for Nippon against the Danes. After all the animation and man in suit films they've contributed to the world, not to mention having the most advanced city in the world (everyone should visit Tokyo), graduating to the next would be welcomed. Banzai Japan!!!

DarthQuack
06-26-2010, 12:47 PM
Nice win by Uruguay this morning over South Korea.....should be a great USA vs Ghana match shortly!

Saw this awesome Star Wars Adidas commercial, wasn't sure if others had seen it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Zd_khk6zXo

Maradona
06-26-2010, 01:28 PM
GO USA!!! A win would mean so much.

DarthQuack
06-26-2010, 01:53 PM
And they're down 1-0 after 5 minutes. :(

Darth Duranium
06-26-2010, 03:37 PM
We're rooting for the US (er, not Australian rooting :) ) up here in Canada... but that extra time Ghanian goal bodes ill. Hope Donovan and your team's got something left in the tank!:whip:

DarthQuack
06-26-2010, 04:28 PM
Ugh, time to RIP this thread.

Darth Duranium
06-26-2010, 04:29 PM
Sorry, dudes. Sucks.

Maradona
06-26-2010, 08:56 PM
The loss was saddening. It feels like we played from behind for the entirety of the tournament. And that's because we did... Hopefully, fans will appreciate the effort enough to continue being fans and growing this game across our country. More kids are involved in organized youth soccer programs in America than in any other nation. Winning a world cup should only be a matter of time.

Darth Metalmute
06-28-2010, 08:02 AM
Hopefully, fans will appreciate the effort enough to continue being fans and growing this game across our country.

Any real chance of that happening was shot down with FIFA's officiating. Here in America, we have sports with instant replay so when a goal is a goal, it gets counted. Not like how England got screwed yesterday or the U.S. twice before, or the many other nations that have gotten screwed at this years World Cup.

Anything that is so important that it only happens once every four years, should have everything at top performance, and that includes the officiating. Get these guys trained correctly, help with reply, and stop hidding behind the human element.


More kids are involved in organized youth soccer programs in America than in any other nation. Winning a world cup should only be a matter of time.

The only reason kids are in organized youth soccer programs is because you can't play the other sports until your older. Those kids usually pick up a football, basketball, or baseball bats around the age of 10 and never look back.

Maradona
06-29-2010, 06:01 PM
Here in America, we have sports with instant replay so when a goal is a goal, it gets counted. Not like how England got screwed yesterday or the U.S. twice before, or the many other nations that have gotten screwed at this years World Cup.


Any sport with humans is susceptible to human error and we here in America are certainly not immune, just ask Detroit's Armando Galaraga whose perfect game was ruined by a bad call. Replays were clear, but not allowed and are STILL not allowed. I love baseball and all its tradition and quirks, but the entire strike-zone is relatively subjective. Does that mean that the sport as a whole should be written off? Replays are in limited use in our major sports here and I doubt the day will soon come when every call and controversy is constantly subject to a technological challenge.

In soccer, I am all for the implementation of technology that will clearly show when goals are scored. I also favor the addition of multiple referees with the power to dish out fouls and cards to keep players honest. Moreover, I favor post-match cards being dished out to punish players that clearly dove or faked injuries or took cheap shots at others. On top of that, there should be an outside referee who is keeping accurate time that can signal the on field referee on the exact time to add to each half. If these changes are implemented, it would do wonders for the reputation of the sport and the credibility of its often corrupt and antiquated governing body.

DarthQuack
06-29-2010, 06:41 PM
Down to the final 8, I'm pulling for my Netherlands :)

Maradona
06-29-2010, 08:11 PM
There are two final game quality quarterfinal matches: Germany v. Argentina and Netherlands v. Brazil. Both could produce spectacular football. All four squads have exciting players, which I hope the referees will allow to shine.

DarthQuack
06-29-2010, 08:56 PM
Another thing one of my buddies was saying was that it could be an all-South American semifinal round, which would be interesting to see as well.

Maradona
06-29-2010, 09:21 PM
Apart from South America doing well, the southern hemisphere overall seems to have posted strong results. This is the first winter world cup since 1978. The next cup in 2014 in Brazil will also be a winter cup, though it's difficult to imagine the words winter and Brazil in the same sentence.

As to whether there will be an all Conmebol (South American) semifinal, I doubt it, but it would be historic.

Darth Jax
06-29-2010, 11:23 PM
FIFA announces the potential to review technology to assist the refs. just a tease for those of us that want them to add video review for goals/no goal calls, since they won't adapt the technology.

first PK game of this cup today with Paraguay/Japan.

Bel-Cam Jos
06-30-2010, 10:25 AM
Apart from South America doing well, the southern hemisphere overall seems to have posted strong results. This is the first winter world cup since 1978. The next cup in 2014 in Brazil will also be a winter cup, though it's difficult to imagine the words winter and Brazil in the same sentence.So, will they even set odds for Brazil winning in 4 years? ;)

Darth Metalmute
06-30-2010, 10:35 AM
first PK game of this cup today with Paraguay/Japan.


I actually caught this at a resturant.

How ridiculous is it that penalty kicks breaks a tie? Basically, it comes down to, which kicker is stupid enough to miss the net or kick it directly at the goalie. The goal is so big you literaly have to miss the side of a barn.

All those people that complain that Hockey ties shouldn't be resolved in shoot-outs should take a deep breathe and calm down. At least a hockey goalie has a chance.


While I'm on the subject, who else would be more interested in soccer if it was played 9 on 9 instead of 11 on 11? Less people on the field, less people to hit with a shot, better odds on a 6-5 game instead of a 0 (5 - 3) 0 game.

sonofsokol
06-30-2010, 10:56 AM
[QUOTE=Maradona;729587]Apart from The next cup in 2014 in Brazil will also be a winter cup, though it's difficult to imagine the words winter and Brazil in the same sentence.[QUOTE]

I dont know...If they play down in Rio Grande Do Sul at Estádio Olímpico Monumental where Gemio (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gr%C3%AAmio_Foot-Ball_Porto_Alegrense#Stadium) plays or at Beira-Rio where Internacional (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sport_Club_Internacional) plays it could get a little chilly. In the 2 years I spent there I needed a sweater a couple times...:D

Maradona
06-30-2010, 01:06 PM
first PK game of this cup today with Paraguay/Japan.

Penalty kicks to settle a game are terrible. It's like doing away with extra innings in favor of a home run derby or instead of overtime in basketball, going to a free throw contest. Penalty kicks are not the correct instrument to determine who is the better team. Make the teams go to extra time until there is winner. It works at Wimbledon.

Darth Jax
06-30-2010, 04:34 PM
man it was a boring day. no games to keep me entertained whilst at work. can't wait for friday to get here.


and i'm all for PKs to finish a game that's already gone through extra time (but i'd restore the golden goal and make it sudden death, along with the 2 extra periods being 30 min each).

Bel-Cam Jos
07-03-2010, 09:52 AM
Down to the final 8, I'm pulling for my Netherlands :)Your wish is granted.
And Ghana is out on a missed kick, eh? :(

Bel-Cam Jos
07-03-2010, 04:33 PM
The last 30 minutes of the Spain/Paraguay match was awesome. Hitting posts (three in one exchange), goalie saves, back-to-back PKs blocked, swollen foreheads from getting kicked in the head.
And a 4-0 thrashing by Deutchland. Ack mein liber! (is that correct German?)

Maradona
07-03-2010, 05:27 PM
The last two matches of each day have been exciting. The Uruguay v Ghana match is likely the most exciting match of the tournament. The Spain match had everything. The German international team had a strong showing, though I wonder how they would have faired using only German players. All in all, the last few matches should be fun to watch.

DarthQuack
07-03-2010, 07:34 PM
I couldn't believe the GER/ARG game....not at all as I thought it would go. URU/GHA was awesome, makes me think the USA could have put up a great match.....but very happy Holland has made it to the semifinals :)

DarthQuack
07-06-2010, 05:56 PM
The Netherlands are off to the World Cup final!!! :) Very excited to watch my heritage take on either Spain or Germany Sunday and thankfully I am off and will enjoy the game in my home with a few brews! :)

Bel-Cam Jos
07-06-2010, 09:49 PM
Let me guess: Dos XXs beer, right? ;)

Congrats. It must be nice to have a rooting interest in the final; I'm just an observer.

Maradona
07-07-2010, 12:42 PM
The final 20 minutes yesterday were very exciting. Today could also prove to be an entertaining match. Maybe today's Spain will finally be the Spain that forecasters expected it to be.

Darth Jax
07-08-2010, 07:29 AM
when you can maintain possession like spain has been, one goal is all it takes.

Darth Duranium
07-08-2010, 09:07 AM
Agreed, the Spaniards used classic Muhammad Ali "rope-a-dope" techniques to wear the Germans down... quite entertaining to watch.

Should be a classic game on Sunday... a real contrast of footballing styles.
It's very cool that neither team has ever won the Cup... though I'm rooting for The Oranje by a slight margin.

Bel-Cam Jos
07-08-2010, 10:46 AM
All I want is an actual goal difference in the final score; no shoot-out.

Maradona
07-08-2010, 10:58 AM
Spain was patient, as they have been this tournament, and it deconstructed the Germans who had been used to beating two impatient teams in the previous two rounds. The final on Sunday could be a classic. Finally, an 8th team will win the Cup.

Bel-Cam Jos
07-10-2010, 09:52 AM
Sucker for soccer: octopus predicts World Cup finalist• Now 'psychic' octopus Paul predicts Spain to beat Holland
• Cephalopod correctly predicted all of Germany's results
(2) (2) (1531)Tweet this (235)Comments (152) Mark Tran The Guardian, Thursday 8 July 2010 Article history
Paul swims in his tank at Sea Life aquarium in Oberhausen, Germany. Photograph: Volker Hartmann/AP

Spain's victory over Germany in the World Cup last night will come have no surprise to those following one of the competition's most successful pundits – for the result had already been foretold by Paul the Octopus, a creature that has achieved celebrity status with the accuracy of its predictions.

Dubbed the psychic octopus, the English-born Paul (hatched at the Sea Life Park in Weymouth) has correctly predicted all of Germany's World Cup results including the 1-0 defeat last night. He predicted Germany's wins against England and Argentina, and even Serbia's defeat of Germany in the group stage.

Such is the popularity of his selections that, on the eve of last night's game, the German news channel n-tv broadcast Paul's prediction live.

Paul's handlers at Aquarium Sea Life in the western city of Oberhausen have turned him into a betting phenomenon by putting mussels into two glass boxes, with one box having Germany's flag while the other carries the flag of their opponents. Paul is then left to choose one box to open to retrieve the mussel.

On Tuesday night, he at first crept towards the container bearing the Spanish flag before moving around the tank and hovering over the German cube. But the two-year-old cephalopod eventually returned to his first choice.

Not everyone is a fan of Paul, however. After Argentina lost to Germany in the quarter-final, Argentines threatened to kill the octopus and put him in a paella. The newspaper El Dia even gave a recipe for anyone daring to capture Paul: "All you need is four normal potatoes, olive oil for taste and a little pepper."

Bookmaker William Hill is so impressed by Paul's predictive powers that it was offering even odds that he will pick the winner of the final on Sunday, between Spain and Holland.

"Punters are keen to keep on the right side of Paul's tips, so we are giving them the chance to bet that he'll pick the winner before they even know which side he has opted for," said William Hill's spokesman Graham Sharpe.

At least one punter was kicking himself for not paying attention to Paul. A man who staked a record €500,000 (Ł415,000) on Germany winning last night lost his wager – the largest World Cup bet ever, according to William Hill.

Paul has erred in his predictions, although not often. His most famous mistake was when he wrongly picked Germany over Spain in the 2008 European Championship. Spain won 1-0. So at least he learns from his mistakes.Had anyone heard of this? :D

Maradona
07-10-2010, 10:07 PM
Had anyone heard of this? :D

Paul, along with the vuvzela, has been the rage of the Cup. He'd probably be a better referee or linesman than we've seen at this tournament. Germany's first goal should not have counted, given that they had a player off side. Uruguay has been at the heart of intrigue: the hands of Luis Suarez against Ghana, two goals against them that shouldn't have been counted in the Holland match, and now today's gaff. But you didn't see them complaining and they fought until the final kick, which Forlan struck against the crossbar.

Bel-Cam Jos
07-10-2010, 10:22 PM
Without a rooting interest, I enjoyed watching the 3rd place game. Sure, some pretty bad (and obvious) bad calls, but it was still fun to view. Tomorrow? The world may never know... until about 1pm PST.

And who names their octopus 'Paul?' And who names their octopus? And who even owns an octopus? :rolleyes:

Darth Jax
07-10-2010, 10:23 PM
i've seen paul's last couple of picks broadcast on the web (and he picked spain to win it all in tomorrow's match-up). thought it was funny all the threats of turning him into sushi he received after picking germany to lose to spain.

didn't get to see any of the game today (was at a wedding). looking forward to tomorrow's final. after some dismal play in the group stages, this world cup has finished up with plenty of great games and enough intrigue.

Bel-Cam Jos
07-11-2010, 08:55 PM
This wasn't a pretty game, but it didn't go to shootouts. Congrats to Espana.

DarthQuack
07-12-2010, 05:32 AM
:( Holland Heartbreaker.....sloppy game though, lots of dives and flops. Wished it would have at least went to PK's. Wouldn't have been as heartbreaking. :(

Darth Jax
07-12-2010, 07:33 AM
i was glad it didn't go to a shoot-out. i'd rather they manage to finish it on the field, rather than have the goalies play paper, rock, scissors and see which one manages to guess right first.

Bel-Cam Jos
07-12-2010, 09:53 AM
And 13 yellow cards (with two resulting in a red)? I can't blame that on the ref.

Maradona
07-13-2010, 12:15 AM
Forlan was the correct choice for best player in the tournament. He played with true heart.

Bel-Cam Jos
07-10-2011, 01:01 PM
Add one year and change genders. The USA women score a dramatic extra-time goal to force PKs!

Maradona
07-10-2011, 08:24 PM
Add one year and change genders. The USA women score a dramatic extra-time goal to force PKs!

Justice was served! Terrible refereeing, but destiny would not be denied. Hope Solo has to be the world's hottest athlete.

DarthQuack
07-15-2011, 10:24 AM
USA all the way!!! :thumbsup:

Bel-Cam Jos
07-19-2011, 10:08 AM
Well, I'll echo the now-common reactions I've heard, and say, if the US was going to lose to any country's team, Japan would be that team.

Maradona
07-19-2011, 12:27 PM
Well, I'll echo the now-common reactions I've heard, and say, if the US was going to lose to any country's team, Japan would be that team.

I absolutely agree. As much as I wanted to see another Solo get a gold medal, Japan has earned some joy after such a tough year.

Bel-Cam Jos
06-30-2012, 11:43 PM
Euro 2012 ends tomorrow (or today, depending on your time zone). Either the Italian signores or Spanish senors will be happy; I guarantee it.

Maradona
06-30-2012, 11:49 PM
I predict a very defensive, hesitant match. Thursday's semifinal was fantastic, as was Wednesday's shoot out, but both Spain and Italy play a middle of the field, possession game. I truly hope I'm wrong and we get an active match.

Bel-Cam Jos
06-16-2014, 05:11 PM
And now it's in Brazil, in 2014!

Wow! A few seconds in to score?!? U-S-A! U-S-A! (must be the new red unis ;) )

[edit] And an even wilder ending! Maybe the Yanks can take this Group of Death! (or at least advance)

Maradona
06-18-2014, 07:46 AM
And now it's in Brazil, in 2014!

Wow! A few seconds in to score?!? U-S-A! U-S-A! (must be the new red unis ;) )

[edit] And an even wilder ending! Maybe the Yanks can take this Group of Death! (or at least advance)

They soooo can advance. They must hold Portugal to a draw at least and then just hang on with Germany, who likely will field their substitutes during that match, since they will already have qualified to the next round and might want to rest their starters. The USA can do this.

I'm watching the World Cup in Argentina with family. There's an unbelievable atmosphere here. My namesake is on television nearly 24 hours a day here on multiple stations, often at the same time.

Bel-Cam Jos
06-18-2014, 11:54 AM
They soooo an advance. They must hold Portugal to a draw at least and then just hang on with Germany, who likely will field their substitutes during that match, since they will already have qualified to the next round and might want to rest their starters. The USA can do this.

I'm watching the World Cup in Argentina with family. There's an unbelievable atmosphere here. My namesake is on television nearly 24 hours a day here on multiple stations, often at the same time.Are you going to see if you can attend a match? I know the two country's aren't THAT close, depending on where you are in Argentina, but certainly closer than USA-to-Brazil. That'd be cool!

Maradona
06-18-2014, 01:34 PM
Are you going to see if you can attend a match? I know the two country's aren't THAT close, depending on where you are in Argentina, but certainly closer than USA-to-Brazil. That'd be cool!

I'm too far and it's too expensive. I'm near the Andes. We hiked up the foothills yesterday and I had a total Misty Mountains moment when I saw a flock of birds: "Spies from Saruman!" No one knew what I was talking about.

Bel-Cam Jos
06-18-2014, 05:41 PM
I'm too far and it's too expensive. I'm near the Andes. We hiked up the foothills yesterday and I had a total Misty Mountains moment when I saw a flock of birds: "Spies from Saruman!" No one knew what I was talking about.Both sorry to hear about that and cool to hear that at the same time!

I climbed to the top of Texas' highest peak and made the comment once the group I was hiking with stopped for a food break, "For the Jedi it is time to eat as well." Also got no recognition (okay, so we weren't in a swamp... :rolleyes: ).

Bel-Cam Jos
06-22-2014, 08:09 PM
Today's US/Portugal match for me:
1. U-S-A! U-S-A!
2. Oh no!
3. Okay...
4. Woo hoo!
5. YEAH! U-S-A! U-S-A!
6. Oh no!
7. Okay?

Now, go and earn your knockout round advancement Thursday, Team USA! :thumbsup:

Maradona
06-23-2014, 09:51 AM
The USA can advance even with a loss on Germany, one I don't think will come. Both teams advance with a tie; both have some worn out players. Germany will likely rest at least a few of its players and that combined with a far less heated need for victory will allow the game to be less physically contested. The current US coach is the former German coach and the current German coach is his close friend and former assistant. It would be very sportsmanlike to think that they haven't communicated since last December when the groups were first formed about all these possibilities.

On a side note, how clutch is Clint Dempsey? The man needs to be given an honorary VAMP by the military. (On a toy site, I predict several people will catch that reference.)

Maradona
06-24-2014, 10:37 PM
Some bitingly classic moments today. Actually, there was just one. FIFA needs to come down hard on this, but if their past is prologue, they will not.

Bel-Cam Jos
06-25-2014, 01:46 PM
Maradona, your namesake's team looks strong. Goals answered soon after Nigeria scored today; wow.

Estados Unidos y Alemania en Jueves! E-U-A! E-U-A! (been watching Telemundo stations more this week)

Maradona
06-26-2014, 12:11 AM
Messi's team looked a bit better today, but it is all Messi. The only other time I can remember that a team in this tournament was completely carried by one player was when my namesake lifted the Cup 28 years ago. It's tempting to believe that's possible for Messi, a player who deserves it, but the reality is that this era of sports requires more team than individual. There are too many variables at play to think that one individual can save a team for seven straight games.

And tomorrow morning, I will watch the valiant US team play the arrogant international team representing Germany on ESPN. I can't stand the Mexico-centric commentary on Univision. They are extremely biased.

Bel-Cam Jos
06-26-2014, 01:08 PM
U-S-A! U-S-A! Goooooooooooooooooooooooooaaaaal... differential! Hey, we're in; no one will likely eat Belgian Waffles in the near future (or does doing that "help" the team "eat them up"?).

Maradona
06-26-2014, 10:19 PM
In is in. Belgium isn't Germany-level opposition.

Bel-Cam Jos
06-30-2014, 08:16 PM
Didn't see any of the Mexico/Nederlands game live; still a tough way to end. Germany waited quite some time to score. Was rooting for Greece, but Costa Rica was fighting strong, too.

Last four Round of 16 teams playing tomorrow, one with the abbreviation E.E.U.U. on Univision; sounds like eewwwww... Belgians. Go-go USA!

Maradona
06-30-2014, 08:59 PM
The Algerians played their hearts out today. It was a punishing loss, but a valiant performance. The Mexico/Holland match was the latest to elicit the following traditional comment from one Mexican commentator (translated for those not versed in Spanish): "We played like we never have; we lost like we always do." The Costa Rica match was grueling. It must have been a tortuous match to play. Nigeria also played well in defeat. Brazil, despite being the host and being Brazil, deserved to lose. Chile outplayed them and only lost by hitting the post twice, once in the waning moments of the extra time and finally in the last penalty kick. Colombia, out of all the teams in the quarterfinals so far, has looked best. Their form should overcome Brazil's, but I'm convinced the fix is in for them to win the tournament to quell the country's protests at the vast expenditures made to host the event.

The land of waffles, chocolate, and pomme frites provides a beatable opponent for Team USA tomorrow. I plan to celebrate the USA triumph by eating said pomme frites tomorrow evening.

Oh, and hopefully Messi continues scoring and winning.

Maradona
07-01-2014, 10:46 PM
Tim Howard turned in the greatest performance by a goaltender in a World Cup in 50 years with 16 saves. The Belgians fired 39 shots and 18 were on target. Howard's performance earned him player of the game, despite the loss. He was marvelous, but unfortunately he can't do the scoring, too. We wasted so many chances to put the game away and later to tie it. It was so frustrating...

And though he didn't score this time, Messi hurled his magic again by threading an incredible pass in the waning moment and a half of extra time to beat a stingy Swiss team.

Bel-Cam Jos
07-01-2014, 11:59 PM
Tim Howard turned in the greatest performance by a goaltender in a World Cup in 50 years with 16 saves. The Belgians fired 39 shots and 18 were on target. Howard's performance earned him player of the game, despite the loss. He was marvelous, but unfortunately he can't do the scoring, too. We wasted so many chances to put the game away and later to tie it. It was so frustrating.Amazing Howard work the entire game. Well, I thought maybe with that late extra-time goal that SOMEHOW the USA could just get it to PKs. They had a couple shots. So close... :(

I noticed in the earlier game that the Swiss goalkeeper took a shot on goal or two (like a pulled goalie in hockey), with no players behind the midfield line.

And now, the "World" Cup is just Europe and South America left.

Maradona
07-02-2014, 09:51 AM
You know it's danger time when the opposing team's goalie is playing with the forwards. And yes, Europe and South America, along with Costa Rica are still in it. Costa Rica is the Cinderella team of this tournament so far. I'll be rooting for them against the Orange Machine of Holland.

Bel-Cam Jos
07-05-2014, 10:45 AM
When I saw Neymar's fall, it didn't look all that bad to me, even on replays. That's a tough one. :(

Maradona
07-05-2014, 01:38 PM
I think he hurt his back more from a fall he gave himself in the previous match where he threw himself in the air after a slight touch and landed very awkwardly. This one did not seem so severe. It's never good to win because the other team had an injured star.

Of the three games in the quarterfinals so far, each team that advanced did so doing just enough to win and not really exerting themselves. I saw a lot of similarity to the way Germany, Brazil, and Argentina took early leads and just managed to ice the game going forward. Messi uncharacteristically missed a late opportunity to flatten the Beligians with a breakaway. I'm very happy for him getting to the final four and hope he can continue to win. Now hopefully Costa Rica can upset the Dutch Oranje.

Maradona
07-08-2014, 07:00 PM
Wow. Germany scored, like, a Brazilian times today. I've never seen a World Cup game like that before.

Bel-Cam Jos
07-08-2014, 08:21 PM
Yeah, but who scored last? :p Hearing the updates on the radio, I thought the hosts were joking, or were just late on the scores.

Weirdest part: Brazil still has to play... for third place. :eek:

Maradona
07-08-2014, 10:53 PM
I've been watching the soccer since 1986 and have never seen anything like that.

Maradona
07-09-2014, 06:40 PM
Heart stopping penalty shootout today. I was riveted to this chess match of a game between the team who were so careful not to get Braziled by the other. I wonder how much is left in the tank for the Argentines against the mighty German machine.

Bel-Cam Jos
07-09-2014, 10:02 PM
Well, for being a so beloved game over the world, here on SSG it seems to be just we too, Maradona. I guess those billion+ TV audiences will be off by about a billion+ this year... :rolleyes: But I'd root for Argentina and Brazil this weekend.

Maradona
07-10-2014, 03:02 AM
Indeed. Sunday's game is supposed to be one of the most watched events in the history of world. Let's see how many actually tune in. Go Americas!

Bel-Cam Jos
07-12-2014, 05:56 PM
Weirdest part: Brazil still has to play... for third place. :eek:I guess they didn't have to... that's a sad ending for the host nation.

Tomorrow: 8-7 Argentina (with 3 of those goals in extra time since it will be 6-6 at 90:00. :D

Maradona
07-12-2014, 06:55 PM
I can't ever remember Brazil losing two games in a row, much less a combined 10-1. Over the past few days, I've read several inspiring articles about Messi and his youth that have added even more desire in me for an Argentine victory tomorrow.

Maradona
07-13-2014, 04:53 PM
Well, BCJ, you called that there would be extra time correctly. Better to lose a match on a goal like that than in a penalty shoot out. I'm sad to see the tournament end, but ready to get on with my summer. I scheduled almost everything around this tournament, even traveling to visit my family for the opening ten days. I guess this thread can rest for a few years after this...

Bel-Cam Jos
07-13-2014, 06:05 PM
Argentina had some chances, mostly in regular time; I think Messi will replay that last free kick over and over forever. :( More blood than I expected in a soccer match; and the German player who just mysteriously disappeared after being escorted off the field was NOT aware he was in Brazil, I think. :tired: