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JediTricks
12-20-2009, 12:21 AM
Yes, I could pick on even more backgroundy reused characters like Stass Allie/Adi Galia or Agen Kolar/Eeth Koth, but they aren't CRAMMING the pegs full yet again this year the way ol' Sassy is.


2001 - POTJ (http://www.rebelscum.com/potjsaeseetiin.asp)
2002 - Saga (AOTC) (http://www.rebelscum.com/sagasaesee.asp)
2003 - Clone Wars ms (realistic) (http://www.rebelscum.com/CW0351saeseetiin.asp)
2004 - Saga (multipack) (http://www.rebelscum.com/sw04jediwarriors.asp)
2004 - OTC (screen scene) (http://www.rebelscum.com/OTCssJHC3.asp)
2005 - Clone Wars ms (animated multipack) (http://www.rebelscum.com/CWanimatedDVD2-1.asp)
2005 - ROTS (http://www.rebelscum.com/ROTS0530saeseetiin.asp)
2006 - TSC (battle pack) (http://www.rebelscum.com/tscBPjediVSsidious.asp)
2007 - TAC Saga Legends (http://www.rebelscum.com/TACSLsaesee.asp)
2007 - TAC (battle pack re-release) (http://www.rebelscum.com/TACSLsaesee.asp)
2008 - TLC (CWms) (http://www.rebelscum.com/TLC11Saesee.asp)
2008 - TLC Saga Legends (http://www.rebelscum.com/TLCSL26saesee.asp)
2008 - TLC (battle pack re-release) (http://www.rebelscum.com/TLCBPJediVsSidious.asp)
2009 - TLC Saga Legends (http://www.rebelscum.com/TLCSL26saesee.asp)

Plus, they released an Ep 2 Jedi Starfighter in his colorscheme!

What the hell has Sassy Tin done to warrant over a dozen releases? He's not even cool-looking like Plo Koon, who himself is overexposed since he also does nothing. But Sassy is a rather goofy-looking and plain Jedi who does nothing except stand around and then get himself sliced up by an old man who was horribly outnumbered. He's so much of a snore that he's the only Jedi I can think of to not appear in any Comic Pack or exclusive 2-pack series, probably because he doesn't do anything in the EU and he's one of the lazy Jedi to not bother to show up on Geonosis and didn't lead any clones that would later betray him.

Val Da Car
12-20-2009, 12:59 AM
cause, you don't have to be cool to look cool.

No, I have no idea...when kids are in the Star Wars section they are saying...oo Saesin Tinn..I want him..

2-1B
12-20-2009, 01:42 AM
"sprechen sie Sassy?"

Agreed that the number of releases is much overdone...but I think he did show up on Geonosis - I remember him hopping in a gunship.

El Chuxter
12-20-2009, 01:55 AM
He's SASSY!! (Seriously, I was at one point thinking about creating his blog, where he commented on just the fashion sense of the other characters as if he were some totally stereotypical gay Euro-trash fashionista, and called everyone "sassy" except for Oppo Rancisis, whom he hated. But I decided it was a dumb idea.)

I can't at all defend the insane number of figures he has, but I wouldn't say he did nothing in the EU. He was one of the four best Jedi warriors (though, unfortunately, this was always told and never shown), and often worked with the other three (Agen, Mace, and Kit, which makes ROTS even more sad in the way they went out like b****es). He also had an insanely awesome sequence in the original CW cartoon, where he led a small group of Clonetroopers to commandeer a Separatist ship in orbit over Coruscant.

Slightly off-subject, but his horn shouldn't have miraculously healed. I don't like that this order of monks goes into the first war in ages, and, three years later, only one guy has a mullet and a scar to show for it. Saesee's broken horn should've stayed, and they should've used something closer to Ki-Adi's concept art, where he'd clearly taken a beaten in some serious battles. Even Plo's concept art, with the wrist-dagger thing, shows the dude adapting to changing times. Heck, Aayla didn't even bother to put a shirt on.

LTBasker
12-20-2009, 04:50 AM
You can see Saesee at Geonosis here (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/File:Jedi_circle.jpg), in one of the most awkward defensive poses I've ever seen. "Hey guys, the hilt blocks blaster fire, right?"

Anyways, I agree that he doesn't really need to be released so often. Although, most of those releases I don't think really count since they're simply rereleases, but he didn't need to be released on an individual card at the same time that the figure was available in a battle pack. In fact, the battle pack realm is best for him since, as has been said, he is quite uninteresting, and simply best serve to fill out Jedi ranks in a multipack.

I do think the huge horns made for a cool look, but sadly he's just boring to look at now due to being such a waste in the movies. Just look at his death face (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/File:The_Death_of_Saesee_Tiin.jpg); only a Mother could mourn that. I think that picture also solves the horn problem, though. If you look closely, you can see that the same horn that was previously damaged in the Clone Wars is dislodged as he dramatically leans backwards. From that we can assume he had the damaged horn removed sometime before ROTS and had a fake put in. Saesee wears falsies.

morpheus282
12-20-2009, 07:51 AM
Heck, Aayla didn't even bother to put a shirt on.

And what's wrong with that???

El Chuxter
12-20-2009, 11:25 AM
Nothing, but my point is not a single Jedi seemed to be changed by the war.

Blue2th
12-20-2009, 11:52 AM
He's a major pegwarmer here.

Some of these Targets that hardly stock figures have whole rows of nothing but him.
Someone, a collector or stocker likely purposefully does that just to show how ridiculously he does linger on the peg.

I think the last Saesee I bought was the Legacy Clone Wars wave figure with armor. That one was pretty cool.

Mr. JabbaJohnL
12-20-2009, 12:57 PM
Slightly off-subject, but his horn shouldn't have miraculously healed. I don't like that this order of monks goes into the first war in ages, and, three years later, only one guy has a mullet and a scar to show for it. Saesee's broken horn should've stayed, and they should've used something closer to Ki-Adi's concept art, where he'd clearly taken a beaten in some serious battles. Even Plo's concept art, with the wrist-dagger thing, shows the dude adapting to changing times. Heck, Aayla didn't even bother to put a shirt on.
Don't forget, that other guy got a haircut and let his beard grow out a little bit more. :p The horn thing, which was strictly EU in the first place, was addressed in the novel, where Palpatine commented on Saesee's horn growing back. And while I'm fine with the Jedi as they are in the film, I agree that it would have been cool to see some other changes. In both cartoons, they wear more armor, only to suddenly discard it sometime before ROTS for no apparent reason.

But, as was said, most of those releases are just repacks. Clearly it's been too many as the red Legends release is pegwarming hard around here, and the blue Legends stuck around for a long time but seems to have cleared out for the most part. We've seen so many other Jedi in the series, so I have to think they'll get to Saesee at some point; maybe they will help some of these figures sell through?

El Chuxter
12-20-2009, 01:12 PM
The comment in the novel was sort of an after-the-fact explanation. (Stover would've known about the difference, and threw in an explanation even though the movie hadn't come out yet.)

Mr. JabbaJohnL
12-20-2009, 01:25 PM
The comment in the novel was sort of an after-the-fact explanation. (Stover would've known about the difference, and threw in an explanation even though the movie hadn't come out yet.)
Well, if it really bothers you that much, maybe we could all ask Dark Horse to make a comic series about how he grew it back. :p

JediTricks
12-20-2009, 03:30 PM
"sprechen sie Sassy?"The late Phil Hartman appreciates you recalling his work.



I can't at all defend the insane number of figures he has, but I wouldn't say he did nothing in the EU. He was one of the four best Jedi warriors (though, unfortunately, this was always told and never shown), and often worked with the other three (Agen, Mace, and Kit, which makes ROTS even more sad in the way they went out like b****es).Seems like you're kinda undermining your own point there. :p



You can see Saesee at Geonosis here (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/File:Jedi_circle.jpg), in one of the most awkward defensive poses I've ever seen. "Hey guys, the hilt blocks blaster fire, right?"Well, there's that then. Ok, you have a point, he was there. I don't remember seeing him do ANYTHING though, he's less important in the film than Sarrissa Jeng who at least yelled "hiiiiyaa!" (ridiculous as she looked and sounded).

Sassy's saber pose there is the "if I block anything, it'll send my saber into my chest, so don't... anybody... move."


Anyways, I agree that he doesn't really need to be released so often. Although, most of those releases I don't think really count since they're simply rereleases, but he didn't need to be released on an individual card at the same time that the figure was available in a battle pack. In fact, the battle pack realm is best for him since, as has been said, he is quite uninteresting, and simply best serve to fill out Jedi ranks in a multipack. They count. Look at the friggin' pegs, they count! The thinking is that Sassy somehow is worthy of these re-releases, that casual collectors and fans alike want to buy this guy. And now he rules the pegs with an iron fist.


I do think the huge horns made for a cool look, but sadly he's just boring to look at now due to being such a waste in the movies. Just look at his death face (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/File:The_Death_of_Saesee_Tiin.jpg); only a Mother could mourn that. I think that picture also solves the horn problem, though. If you look closely, you can see that the same horn that was previously damaged in the Clone Wars is dislodged as he dramatically leans backwards. From that we can assume he had the damaged horn removed sometime before ROTS and had a fake put in. Saesee wears falsies.His face looked stupid long before that dopey death face IMO, and his horns ain't all that, they're sorta cliche IMO.

Nice call on the fake horn. Reminds me of an episode of Futurama. ;)



And what's wrong with that???Incredibly impractical, unless you're in a comic book.



He's a major pegwarmer here.

Some of these Targets that hardly stock figures have whole rows of nothing but him.
Someone, a collector or stocker likely purposefully does that just to show how ridiculously he does linger on the peg. That's why I started this thread. TRU ended up with MOUNTAINS of him during their sale because they were pushing Saggy Legends so hard. But he's NOT a legend of the Saga IMO, he's just some background a**clown prequel Jedi who isn't as interesting as LFL and Hasbro think he is.


I think the last Saesee I bought was the Legacy Clone Wars wave figure with armor. That one was pretty cool. The last one I bought was... the POTJ figure. Yes, that's right, I only own the first Saesee, that's how little he does it for me.



And while I'm fine with the Jedi as they are in the film, I agree that it would have been cool to see some other changes. In both cartoons, they wear more armor, only to suddenly discard it sometime before ROTS for no apparent reason.I think the armor is more a conceit to kiddie interests. It stands in contrast to the movie Jedi who don't even wear space suits in their tiny Jedi Starfighters. Perhaps they used the armor as a bonding tool with their Clone Troopers more than true armor, and by the time the phase 2 armor came out, it did its job and they tossed it.


Clearly it's been too many as the red Legends release is pegwarming hard around here, and the blue Legends stuck around for a long time but seems to have cleared out for the most part.I thought the blue version was one of figs that got swept up by the Hasbro reps and destroyed.


Even the numerous re-releases say that someone up top thinks he's important, moreso than a lot of prequel Jedi, and I just don't see it.

2-1B
12-20-2009, 03:41 PM
The late Phil Hartman appreciates you recalling his work.

Thanks. :grin:



The last one I bought was... the POTJ figure. Yes, that's right, I only own the first Saesee, that's how little he does it for me.

Which points out something else about the absurdity of this whole topic - Saesee was on screen in 1999 but they didn't even release a figure of him until 2001...which makes it even less amount of time to knock out these multiple releases. lol



I think the armor is more a conceit to kiddie interests.

That's my feeling too, it's a cartoon and they are dressing them up a bit for the medium. Pretty ridiculous, IMO. Anakin doesn't look so bad in his Darth Vader preview armor but Obi-Wan looks ridiculous in his. And I think I noticed Kit Fisto and Mace Windu wearing forearm guards in some episodes. Way to keep yourselves protected, guys.

Hey, do you think Obi-Wan gave Han and Luke some tips on how to wear that armor ????? ;)


The comment in the novel was sort of an after-the-fact explanation. (Stover would've known about the difference, and threw in an explanation even though the movie hadn't come out yet.)

Well, if it really bothers you that much, maybe we could all ask Dark Horse to make a comic series about how he grew it back.
Yes, hopefully the EU will come up with a storyline to explain his unstoppable horniness. :thumbsup:

Blue2th
12-20-2009, 04:24 PM
So while were talkin' about Saesee, which is the best version of him?

Do I need to go out and buy a recent one to help Hasbro out in a small way?
Simply because I need to have the pinnacle of Saesee!

Did they make him super articulated (no swivel elbows) like they did to Plo Koon finally?

JediTricks
12-20-2009, 04:39 PM
No SA. Of all the last 8 figures except for the Clone Wars micro series figure, they are all the ROTS mold with swivel elbows and no ankle articulation. The coloring is still a little off, too pale, but it's basically all you could need from the character as it can do straight-ish arm pose and 2-handed arm pose. If you don't mind clone armor, the CWms figure from '08 has more articulation, but it's lacking his trademark cloak from the scene.

Mr. JabbaJohnL
12-20-2009, 06:26 PM
I thought the blue version was one of figs that got swept up by the Hasbro reps and destroyed.
Sadly, no. At least not around here. Today I saw some blue carded ones hanging around with the red carded ones. A real damn shame.

TheDarthVader
12-20-2009, 06:51 PM
I have to agree with JT here. This character does not do much for me except he looks really cool in the jedi council scene in Episode 1.

Blue2th
12-20-2009, 08:20 PM
No SA. Of all the last 8 figures except for the Clone Wars micro series figure, they are all the ROTS mold with swivel elbows and no ankle articulation. The coloring is still a little off, too pale, but it's basically all you could need from the character as it can do straight-ish arm pose and 2-handed arm pose. If you don't mind clone armor, the CWms figure from '08 has more articulation, but it's lacking his trademark cloak from the scene.

Which emphasizes your point.
Why should anyone be clamoring to buy him when he's regurgitated over and over figure that's really not that popular.
Maybe he wouldn't be on the pegs so long if he was an improvement.
The only reason I bought Plo Koon, the AT-AT Driver and others again recently is because they had improved them and got rid of those awful swivel elbows and made them SA.

Haven't looked at the CWms series one closely, cause I haven't opened him yet (no room to display anything for a while) guess he's the best one.
Put a soft goods cloak on him?

JediTricks
12-20-2009, 09:21 PM
Sadly, no. At least not around here. Today I saw some blue carded ones hanging around with the red carded ones. A real damn shame.I'm not sure that proves they weren't pulled back. Some of my stores still have figures that were previously pulled back. But you are right, I just read the Hasbro answer, they didn't pull back any Saga Legends figures, but they are not including Sassy or Plo in the later SL assortments.



Which emphasizes your point.
Why should anyone be clamoring to buy him when he's regurgitated over and over figure that's really not that popular.
Maybe he wouldn't be on the pegs so long if he was an improvement.
The only reason I bought Plo Koon, the AT-AT Driver and others again recently is because they had improved them and got rid of those awful swivel elbows and made them SA. Plo Koon at least is a cool-looking alien and has some good EU behind him. Even if they did upgrade Sassy, I can't imagine many folks would want that figure, it's over-saturated a rather uninspiring character.


Haven't looked at the CWms series one closely, cause I haven't opened him yet (no room to display anything for a while) guess he's the best one.
Put a soft goods cloak on him?He needs a brown cape actually, not as easy to find.

morpheus282
12-27-2009, 11:57 AM
I figured it out.

When the Boogeyman goes to sleep every night, he checks his closet for Saesee Tiin.
Saesee Tiin doesn't read books. He stares them down until he gets the information he wants.
There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of creatures Saesee Tiin has allowed to live.
Outer space exists because it's afraid to be on the same planet with Saesee Tiin.
Saesee Tiin does not sleep. He waits.
Saesee Tiin is the reason why Waldo is hiding.
Saesee Tiin counted to infinity - twice.
When Saesee Tiin does a pushup, he isn’t lifting himself up, he’s pushing the planet down.
Saesee Tiin is so fast, he can run around the world and punch himself in the back of the head.
Saesee Tiin’s hand is the only hand that can beat a Royal Flush.
Saesee Tiin can lead a horse to water AND make it drink.
Saesee Tiin doesn’t wear a watch, HE decides what time it is.
Saesee Tiin can slam a revolving door.
Saesee Tiin does not get frostbite. Saesee Tiin bites frost
It's a rather dull Sunday around here. :tired:

pbarnard
12-28-2009, 01:27 PM
He's SASSY!! (Seriously, I was at one point thinking about creating his blog, where he commented on just the fashion sense of the other characters as if he were some totally stereotypical gay Euro-trash fashionista, and called everyone "sassy" except for Oppo Rancisis, whom he hated. But I decided it was a dumb idea.).

And what's stopping you besides life? :thumbsup: And your EU point is way off. He was apparently one of the most aloof and no one had any clue why he got as far as he did Jedi. If not for his flying skill he probably would be in the Agri-Corps.

Two or three...make sense given the sculpts and movie/CW pushing things along. The fighter makes sense as well since he apparently was the most skilled pilot until some other younger Jedi came along.

El Chuxter
12-28-2009, 02:11 PM
Aww, c'mon, PB, if I were actually going to make a website where Saesee Tiin is a stereotypical gay Euro-trash fashionista who comments on fashion and social life in the Star Wars galaxy, what makes you think I'd go by any existing EU at all? :p

I also think the other Jedi probably don't call Oppo Rancisis "Goatboy." And they don't call the janitor whenever he enters a room, to mop up the slime. I kinda figure he doesn't have toilet paper permanently affixed to his bottom, stop up all the Temple toilets, and spit out corn whenever he talks.

Sinscia Fat'o
12-28-2009, 02:39 PM
Ahh come on tinn is the man love me some sool tinn figures! LOL hopefully there wont be anymore! as they cant do him in any other fashion!

pbarnard
12-29-2009, 10:30 AM
And what's stopping you besides life? :thumbsup: And your EU point is way off. He was apparently one of the most aloof and no one had any clue why he got as far as he did Jedi. If not for his flying skill he probably would be in the Agri-Corps.


Aww, c'mon, PB, if I were actually going to make a website where Saesee Tiin is a stereotypical gay Euro-trash fashionista who comments on fashion and social life in the Star Wars galaxy, what makes you think I'd go by any existing EU at all? :p

And that's why it would work!!! Totally useless as a Jedi, showing his only redeeming social value, the SW equivalent of E! news correspondent.

Bel-Cam Jos
12-29-2009, 10:39 AM
Once, at a Target, I took every Say-See Say-Me and put them as the first figure on each peg. Maybe Hasbro saw that, decided that he's the one kids clearly wanted, and made more, more, MORE of him.

I also saw a poll where he was rated a Tiin out of ten, so there's another vote in favor of mass quantities.

Doesn't cornacopeia [sp?] mean "horn of plenty"?

JediTricks
12-29-2009, 04:54 PM
I see a lot of stores now where the Legends Sassys are all stacked up on single pegs, so they just fill peg after peg with Sassy figs to make room for the figures folks actually WANT. And those Sassy pegs never diminish.