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mabudonicus
02-26-2002, 05:30 PM
It just strikes me that if h-bro cares at all about the older, "collector" market, why do they insist on giving us horrid, cheesy rubber guns and accessories? There is another thread (about what to do with amanaman's staff) which totally brought this, my main gripe, back in full colour.
Ever since IG88(the original one), I wished that droids were made of slightly sterner stuff.
Then the death star gunner, with that big rifle shaped glob of petroleum. Then the 9d9, with wet noodles to stand on.
THEN 300 boba fett, with the gun so deformed in the package that I can't even look at him for more than a few seconds.
I guess I'm trying to say- if they're looking to please the "collector" market as well, why not make figs with collector quality materials? I would walk through fire for a complete collection of replacement accessories for POTF2 and POTJ.
And to have droids(and one piece supporting characters) who's feet BOTH LAY FLAT ON THE GROUND would be like a dream come true- I can't help but imagine how cool a harder plastic, multi part, transforming mechanism(a bit much, but it could be done, and it would RULE) Destroyer droid would be?
C'mon, hasbro!!! It's SW, not the Gang who couldn't shoot/stand straight!! Woooooo!!!!!

Amanamike
02-27-2002, 12:18 AM
I have to admit the EV9D9 has legs like a drunk naval private first night off his ship.

DarthMaulSithLord
03-06-2002, 10:52 AM
I agree with all the above. I recently bought the new POTJ Sandtrooper and man that weapon he comes with sucks!!! It is so weak it is difficult to get it in his hands. And when you finally get it standing with the gun, the stupid thing falls out if you only look at it!

:frus:

Eternal Padawan
07-13-2002, 09:44 AM
Dear lord Hasbro. I just got the Han/Chewbacca/Djas Puhr/Chancellor Palpatine wave.

Chewbacca is sweet. That crappy lump of 3PO that came with him however...icky.


Han Solo is an abomination. When did Han Solo have palsy in the saga, I ask you? Seriously. I took him out of the package, played with him for all of three seconds, and then stuffed him back in.
Djas Puhr is cool, but ummmmm...his gummi worm guns?!? Not very intimidating for someone who's supposed to be a bounty hunter.

Let's just pause and think about how crappy his flimsy little sticks are.




We are not finished contemplating how suckass those guns are.





Still considering the crappola quality control at allowing those gummi things to be packed in with Djas Puhr as "guns"...







Are we still thinking about the hideousness of Djas' sucky flimsy weapons? No. We are thinking how craptastic palsy Han Solo was...




Now were thinking about the sucktacular guns what come with Djas.






Okay. Now we've taken a step back and considered the sum of the plastic lump of poo that was 3PO, the gummi worm guns, and the palsified Han Solo as a whole. The wave sucked, Hasbro.

Shame on you. (slap)

Exhaust Port
07-13-2002, 10:46 AM
At least produce products that become forever warped in the package. You know what they say about a figure with a bent gun...

Jedi Knightrider
07-13-2002, 12:23 PM
EP, you don't like the new Chewie? I thought it looked awesome! Granted, I haven't seen one out of the package, as I have no $, but I think it looks great! The Quick-draw action Han has a great facial expression, though the figure suffers from the QDA. I agree about the djas guns. although, just stuff them in the holsters, and there you go, no lookey at gunny. Oh, well, whatchagonnado?

bigbarada
07-13-2002, 01:57 PM
The new Chewie is awesome! I never planned to use the Threepio accessory to begin with so I don't really care about that. The figure itself is quite simply one of the best figures to date.

I don't like the super-rubbery guns either and I remember some guy who claimed to work at Hasbro saying that the rubbery plastic allowed them to get better details. I would happily take less-detailed, sturdy weapons, over highly detailed, rubbery ones. What good is all that detail when the gun is so flimsy that it won't hold it's original shape? It's a trade off, obivously, figuring out at what point the lack of detail is more objectionable than the rubbery-ness.

Well, the rubbery-ness sucks, I prefer less-detailed, sturdier weapons.

Jargo
07-13-2002, 04:54 PM
The threepio lump'o'chunk accessory that comes with Chewie is missing a lower leg. All the pieces of threepio but not his lower right leg. How queer...

Quite frankly, I now look at the episode one figures with extrememfondness as they do actually tie in with POTF2 figures. The POTJ figures may be film accurate but there's so much detail to everything that they almost negate the other figures that came earlier. I have no problem with gummi guns as such as I live in a cold country so they don't bend the same but what I do have a problem with is accessories made of gummi rubber packed in the blister in such a way asto be rendered useless before they are even out of the blister. Bent up and mishapen, warped and wobbly. Not acceptable. Bad show old bean. Just not cricket dontcha know.

WHYOHWHYOHWHYOHWHY do these things get ruined so?


*sigh*

....Here we go, this is where I get lambasted again for being negative..... :rolleyes:

Jedi Knightrider
07-13-2002, 05:09 PM
Originally posted by EMPEROR JARGO
*sigh*

....Here we go, this is where I get lambasted again for being negative..... :rolleyes:

Is that when you are cooked in lamb juice?

You are sooooooooo negative that it makes me want to chop your head off.

Atually, I can understand everything that you're saying about the disparity between all the other SW figs and the new saga ones. But it's okay, because apparently they will be going back and re-doing all the old figuers with new Quick-crap action. So, you'll get all the characters you know and love, all with useless articulation, over-posed fall-down all the time legs, and magnets, magnets, magnets!!! Don't get me wrong, I like a lot of the new figures, I'm just complaining about the features I don't like. I really like Anakin HD, Tusken female, Shaak Ti, Luminara, and Jango KE, becuase of all the weapons he has!!!!:evil:

Other than that, I'm not too :crazed: about them.

Darth Sidious
07-13-2002, 06:01 PM
Hey Mabudon, if you cant stand to look at your 300th Boba Fett I'd be happy to take him off your hands. :D Just kidding. Anyway, back to the point- I also hate the gummiguns. The sneak preview Clonetrooper's rifle bends and when you put on the blast effect, which makes the blast effect fall off too. And C-3PO carcass could be a bit sturdier too....Please give us our old rock hard weapons back. No more gummiguns. I have to say something nice to you Hasbro people...Umm...Good job on the Nexu! :D

Jargo
07-13-2002, 06:42 PM
Yes the "Jarrrrrrr-goooooo, meooow" uttering Nexu is very nice. :)

It's actually quite weird comparing the arms of a POTF2 figure to the arms of say - Shaak Ti. As alike in sturdiness as chalk and cheese and speaking of cheese, is that what they make the guns from? Processed cheese..... Do they have grades of gumminess do you think? Like one grade for limbs and another for weapons and accessories? They've got a special name for the plastic they use now. It's like three letters or something. The stuff they make the weapons out of is called K resin I think. It was written on the Aayla Secura designs at C2. They were going to make her blue electro-force-effect from it. So if that's what hasbro is making the guns from then they can just stop right now and go back to the other plastic. And if they say they can't make small items for the figures out of the old plastic then alls I can say is "the gun that vintage Leia Endor and B-wing pilot came with" that's a tiny gun and suffers not at all from a lack of detail. It's one of my favourite stand in guns when I lose one from a newer figure. So making tiny hard plastic items isn't an impossibility like Hasbro would have us all believe. Filthy rotten fibbers that's what they are. :p

Lord Tenebrous
07-13-2002, 07:07 PM
The Rebel Trooper's blaster is at the top of my list. The trigger ring disintegrated, and the gun feels like it wants to split apart.

I'm not stupid, so I can see exactly what this is. Most of these toys rely on accessories to be useful. So Hasbro makes them out of crud, so when they break, the kids cry until Mom and Dad go out and buy another figure for new parts. Or, if you're a collector, you get sucker-punched into buying an overpriced accessory set for that one replacement lightsaber or cloak or whatever.

I was going to buy two Djas figure, one for Djas himself, and a second to customize into a Sakiyan companion, but no, because his guns are crap. Hasbro didn't even package them like on the back of the card (even though I'm pretty sure that you have to have your fingers close to the trigger to use a gun). Pretty shoddy, he may as well come with guns molded into his holsters, and part of the Cantina sets.


I cannot wait for Ephant's pogo stick and flimsy dagger. :(

Jargo
07-13-2002, 08:00 PM
Yeah. Like Dexter Jettster's implements of culinary expertise. I mean have any of you actually attempted to use his cleaver to cut a dead animal apart? I tried and it took me four hours to realise that it just wasn't gonna happen. Dexter's tool is just plain out floppy and he's impotent because of it! That's just cruel that is for the sake of being cruel.... :mad:

But Lord Tenebrous is dead on the nail with the conspiracy theory. It's all an insidious plot anyway. That smell that Tycho is always on about ids a powerful narcotic that gets you addicted fast so you buy more toys and spend more and more money just to get the vinyl 'hit' each time. hasbro are filthy pusher scum! Down with the scum - Hasbro must die!!!!!!!!!!!! :crazed:

Sorry Lord Tenebrous, I've been far too facetious and I'm going to bed now. I shall leave this thread to return to it's more serious roots. Although I do kinda mean what I say and it would be possible to get a person hooked like that........ :eek:

Eternal Padawan
07-14-2002, 08:51 AM
Jedi Knightrider. I said Chewbacca is SWEET! I agree with bigb's assessment that he's the best Chewie to date. I especially love his head articulation. I just think that the rest of the line is complete turd. Especially Han Solo and Djas' gummiguns.

It reminds me of the time David Hasslehoff got chased down Sunset boulevard by the police wearing nothing but a pair of cowboy boots and little Nepalese flag scotchgarded to his butt.


For some reason my Nexu doesn't say "Jarrrrrr-goo" it says "Hasssssssle-hofff"...:rolleyes:

Lman316
07-14-2002, 09:21 AM
Now, I actually liked the Han Solo. It is a major one-poser, but for what I needed him for, he's perfect, exactly the way I needed him.
However, I can understand why people have problems with it. It's the first decent looking Han Solo (at least in my opinion), and it's stuck in one pose with some stupid action gimmick. And even though I do like the figure, I would have liked the same figure with more articulation and no action gimmick even better.

But, that is not the topic of this thread. I have also been against these crappy gummi weapons. As I've said once before, Hasbro should just included a canister of Play-Doh and let the collectors mold their own weapons. Then we can't complain because we knew they'd be Play-Doh all along :p
Really, what is the point of having a blaster, say pointed at someone in a diorama, and the barrell of the weapon is pointed somewhere besides your intended target? It just looks stupid, like someone is "using the Force" to bend the weapon. Then you sit there for hours...or minutes trying to bend the sucker the way it should be, and then it still looks like crap. And please, don't even get me started on Djas Puhr...
Like BB, I will glady take less detail to get a sturdier accessory. There has to be a medium here, Hasbro. Let's find it and let's get something done. Before it's all to late...

End...

Jedi Knightrider
07-15-2002, 10:45 AM
Originally posted by Eternal Padawan
Jedi Knightrider. I said Chewbacca is SWEET! I agree with bigb's assessment that he's the best Chewie to date. I especially love his head articulation. I just think that the rest of the line is complete turd. Especially Han Solo and Djas' gummiguns.

I guess I misread that first sentence. Maybe I was talking about the C-3P0 accessory - I don't know. Is the 3p0 that bad? I kinda liked the idea that the eyes light up when you plug the head in! Can you plug it in backwards?


Originally posted by Eternal Padawan
It reminds me of the time David Hasslehoff got chased down Sunset boulevard by the police wearing nothing but a pair of cowboy boots and little Nepalese flag scotchgarded to his butt.

It was the Lebanese flag, get it right. That's libel!!!


Originally posted by Eternal Padawan
For some reason my Nexu doesn't say "Jarrrrrr-goo" it says "Hasssssssle-hofff"...:rolleyes:

Mine says "E.P. stands for 'Eats Poo!":p :p :p

mtriv73
08-04-2006, 01:45 PM
At least produce products that become forever warped in the package. You know what they say about a figure with a bent gun...

No, actually I'm not familiar with that one. What do they say about a figure with a bent gun?