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JediTricks
02-27-2010, 04:09 PM
I'm sick to death of the line using over and over the VOTC Han Solo. That 6-year-old figure may be beloved by some of you, but you have to admit that it doesn't scale well to your other figures, and it has its share of issues.

We need a Han that:


has an excellent likeness
scales better to the rest of the line, with legs and arms that can be used on other Han figures without looking INCREDIBLY STUPID
has a separate vest
employs modern-quality articulation without looking worse for it
doesn't have a giraffe neck
uses a gun belt that isn't so bulbous

That's it, really. It's not so darned complicated. Yet for the past 6 years, Han Solo figures have all consistently underwhelmed thanks in part to this one figure. Every Han figure since has come up short due to this single mold, so no matter how much you like it, that's a HUGE problem that needs to be fixed finally.

Mr. JabbaJohnL
02-27-2010, 05:42 PM
I love the VOTC figure, but yeah, we could use a new one. I'd like to see one whose holster straps to the leg like on the Garindan figure so he can sit without the holster getting in the way. You should write up a question in the Q&A about this, methinks.

bigbarada
02-27-2010, 06:29 PM
I do think that the 2004 VOTC Han Solo figure is the best Han Solo made thus far and he's still one of my favorite Star Wars figures of all time. However, I agree that frankensteining his parts into future releases has significantly hurt the quality of every subsequent Han Solo figure across the board.

I will definitely be extremely annoyed with Hasbro is they reuse these parts yet again for the 2011 Bespin Han Solo. If Bespin Luke can get a complete resculpt after only 3 years, then Bespin Han Solo deserves the same respect considering the last all-new version of him was 10 years ago.

Devo
02-27-2010, 08:15 PM
The reason they keep reusing VOTC parts is because people keep praising it and voting it one of the best figures ever made in polls. It frustrates the hell out of me.

I agree, it badly needs to be retired.

I remember being relieved about Hoth Han (not the new open coat one) because I knew it most definitely would not be using VOTC anorexic parts. It and the carkoon Han are the only ones who have escaped the absurdity, though the latter had issues of its own.

Its going to be tense waiting to see what they do with Bespin Han. You'd think after torture rack Han they'd see the folly of using any VOTC parts but then I really and truly expected that DSII Luke would be a new figure after all this time and all the demand...and how wrong I was proven.

AmanaMatt
02-27-2010, 10:30 PM
Personally, I think the VOTC is still darn good - including well hiddent super articulation. That said, I am always down for another go

Devo
02-28-2010, 01:19 AM
^another case in point. More praise. Hasbro have been choosing to see only that while ignoring the few who have a problem with the VOTC figure.

Snowtrooper
02-28-2010, 12:29 PM
I always thought the VOTC Han was pretty good, but it has faults as JT pointed out. I'm all for a new one as long as its better than the VOTC version. Sometimes Hasbro resculpts main characters, only to end up with something marginally better, or even worse than the original.

Old Fossil
02-28-2010, 07:35 PM
I wouldn't complain if they released a new and improved one, but I think the VOTC one is great. Hasbro would do well to rerelease it in Saga Legends.

JediTricks
03-01-2010, 05:54 PM
I don't understand the love for this figure, I'm pretty much in the same boat as Devo up there, but I try to give its proponents the benefit of the doubt. That said, I can't think of any Han figures in the last 6 years that have gotten great reviews, most people seem fairly underwhelmed to unhappy with those figures, so it surprises me that there's still this great feeling for progenitor of those figures.

Then again, Han seems to have it easy by the fans. Fans have been crowing about how great the Commtech figure is even to this day despite it being a POTF2-quality sculpt with awkward articulation, and how fantastic the POTJ Han Bespin is despite again simple-quality sculpting and off colors.

I think the collecting community needs to hold Han figures to a higher standard, at least as high as any prequel Jedi joker, or Emperor Palpatine, or even General Veers.


(I'm moving this thread to TLC, seems to be too early to use the TVC section for this type of discussion.)

TheDarthVader
03-01-2010, 08:01 PM
I think that we need a new han solo, but I do not hate the VOTC version. That being said, I would definitely buy a new han that looks much better than the VOTC version. One thing about the VOTC version that I do not like is that the color of the paint on the neck does not usually match the color of paint on his face.

RENDAR LIVES
03-01-2010, 09:00 PM
I think the VOTC Endor Han is the best so far. Yes it has a crappy likeness that looks more like Judd Nelson (Ithink that's his name?) from Breakfast Club than Harrison Ford. I also wonder why they don't do all the Jangos and Hans like Bespin Luke. It may be a shameful figure but it's all we have. It is the most up to date with articulation and sculpt sans likeness. The POTF-2 Comtech one is kind of the same for those who prefer his blue pants. Very out dated but on a lot of core characters Hasbro seems to skimp on the likeness because they know people will buy it regardless and they also know they will get another crack at it every year. I have a friend who works in video games and the same rule applies. If it's a franchise they will let it slide a lot more with quality and glitches than something less established. They just now are getting Luke and Leia likenesses right.

Boy that bespin luke had so many issues. While a nice figure it wasn't Luke. It was almost as tall as Vader! I am glad it's an all new sculpt or I would pass on it. I hate seeing the kit bash done so often though. Deathstar 2 Luke has a nice likeness and the chest is finally accurate but the arms and legs look so awkward I had to pass it up. I really wish I would have gotten TLC Emporer and Vader but justifying those retools isn't worth it since my Evolution versions aren't so obsulete. $7.50 for a head or helmet? No thank you.

Something that preturbs me is TLC Darth Maul had no new articulation. It was just the evoution with soft goods. I passed up the TLC Ben Kenobi because I assumed it was like Darth Maul. My cousin showed me his loose one and I was kicking myself hard for not getting it when I had the chance, now knowing it had bendable elbows, knees, wrists and ankles over the VOTC version. Maybe Hasbro should start packaging the cloaks off the figures, cause then I would have shown a little more support for the Legacy Collection.

Old Fossil
03-01-2010, 09:48 PM
I think the VOTC Endor Han is the best so far. Yes it has a crappy likeness that looks more like Judd Nelson (Ithink that's his name?) from Breakfast Club than Harrison Ford.

Thanks SO MUCH for crushing the small kernel of fondness I had for that figure beneath your boot-heel.:hurt: Now I gotta find that AOTC death-sticks dealer guy figure to sub for Anthony Michael Hall...

RENDAR LIVES
03-01-2010, 11:17 PM
Thanks SO MUCH for crushing the small kernel of fondness I had for that figure beneath your boot-heel.:hurt: Now I gotta find that AOTC death-sticks dealer guy figure to sub for Anthony Michael Hall...

Lol. Sorry.

JediTricks
03-07-2010, 07:20 PM
Judd Nelson figures would kick Luke's a** and make out with Leia and Padme, then insult them and somehow they'd still want him.


We're never going to get a better Han at this rate, so many collectors are hung up on the VOTC.

RENDAR LIVES
03-07-2010, 10:12 PM
Not hung up on it. I'm just waiting for something better to come out.

JediTricks
03-07-2010, 11:18 PM
I think in general there's no drive though, look at the other responses here, very few actual responses and most are content with the VOTC figure. Without a drive to do better, there's little reason for Hasbro to move on from that one.