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El Chuxter
03-22-2010, 02:21 AM
I made an unplanned stop at a Target this morning on the way to San Diego (a toddler saying she's about to poop her pants has a way of making one do so). Since I was there, I figured I'd check out the toy aisles, and almost carped my own pants when I saw Utris M'toc sitting right on the front of a peg. I expected him to come with the HK-50 part, but, no, he has the BG-J38 right leg.

Any idea what's going on here? I was under the impression this variant would only be in the EU wave, now a TRU exclusive. There were a few remnants of the ESB and ROTS waves (including Willrow--sorry, Tycho, this took me so by surprise I forgot momentarily you wanted more of him), but all of them came with the proper HK-50 and YVH-1 parts.

So, is the wave sneaking out early, and at stores other than TRU? I kind of doubt it, unless someone snatched up all the EU figures and somehow missed Utris. Then again, I've not read any reports of anyone finding Utris mixed in with the ESB or ROTS waves, and it really makes no sense for one figure with one part of an as-yet unreleased droid to be released with an earlier wave.

Adding to the oddness, one of the ROTS wave figures they had was the concept IG-88. He had the proper right leg to YVH-1. However, across the back, where the strip that says "Collect these awesome characters!" is printed, there's a sticker that says "Product not available in all countries" in 17 (!!!) languages. Also, the entire bottom side of the bubble has a large sticker covering the bar code and legalese, with the legalese again in multiple languages and a different UPC that wasn't in the Target system. (The cashier just scanned Utris twice.) Oh, and the Eopie sticker isn't on the front, and there's a sticker on the right side of the bubble with the Hasbro logo, lion head in triangle, CE logo--all the stuff that doesn't fit on the bottom because of the 17 languages thing. It's clearly not been opened or re-packed, though. I didn't notice any other figures with the extra/missing stickers.

I'll try to get pictures tomorrow (too exhausted right now to mess with the camera), but I'm not sure which of these finds is weirder. Pretty happy to have Utris and a second concept IG-88, though. Anyone else come across either of these oddities, or know what's going on?

El Chuxter
03-22-2010, 02:34 AM
Eh, what the heck. The camera's not too tough to use. Here are some pics, first of Utris, the front of the IG-88, and a close-up of IG-88's back, showing the sticker as best I can.

El Chuxter
03-22-2010, 02:35 AM
And the stickers on the side and bottom of IG-88. The only thing I can guess is that this particular figure was intended to go to another country and, for some reason, was mixed in with Target's shipment. Doesn't explain the Utris showing up, though, since he didn't have anything weird with his stickers (just his existence), nor why this particular Target had two such unusual SW figures at the same time.

DarkJedi5
03-22-2010, 03:24 AM
Sounds like a mistake to me. No one else has posted anything like this anywhere that I've seen. It seems pretty clear that IG was meant to be in an international shipment but made it into a US bound box by accident. If that's the case, then perhaps it stands to reason that the guy putting the case together in China just grabbed the wrong Bespin Guard to finish off the case?

El Chuxter
03-22-2010, 03:33 AM
I've considered that, and am not going to rule it out. However (and please correct me if I'm wrong here), I don't believe there's a single case assortment that includes Concept IG-88 and either Bespin Guard figure. (Aren't all 2010 concept figures only released once, with the only release of the IG-88 being a wave earlier than any wave including a Bespin Guard?) Which would mean it would have to be two jacked up cases. Not impossible, since I did see evidence both the ESB and ROTS waves had arrived relatively recently, but one random Target getting two such screwy cases at once? The odds of that are about on par with successfully navigating an asteroid field.

I'm not at all prepared to disagree with you entirely (especially with my knowledge of case assortments being fuzzy and possibly wrong altogether), but the chances of two messed up cases going through the entire distribution process and winding up at the same store seems like a very slim chance. Then again, I can't come up with a better explanation than yours.

DarkJedi5
03-22-2010, 09:48 AM
You make a good point about them not being in the same case. And it is unlikely that there were two cases that were screwed up but in different ways. Either way, it's all terribly bizarre.

Mr. JabbaJohnL
03-22-2010, 01:58 PM
My first inclination was to say that perhaps somebody returned one or both after getting them online or something, but that wouldn't really make sense. In all likelihood, the Edian figure was accidentally switched with an Utris M'Toc while Hasbro was putting the case together.

You're right about the case assortments - IG-88 only comes one per case with wave 11 (the ROTS wave), and the Cloud City Wing Guard comes one per case with wave 12 (ESB) and wave 12, revision 1 (which removes Willrow, the concept Snowtrooper, and R2-X2, and some of the older figures, subbing in different older figures). Well, then he also comes with the EU wave, of course, but that's supposed to be the Utris variation.

Whatever happened, that's a super-awesome find!

El Chuxter
03-22-2010, 03:23 PM
Do we have any idea how Hasbro handles running changes from the production end of things? I sort of figured they made all of the first version, then switched. Is it possible that sometime in the production run of the ESB wave, they ran out of Edian and started using Utris? (Which would mean that there would logically be at least a few more Utrises floating around.) Then again, if that were to happen, I'd think they'd have the HK-50 part, unless the figures are totally packaged and just waiting to be boxed up.

Some insight into Hasbro's procedures might explain this, but I doubt they'll be especially forthcoming.

JediTricks
03-22-2010, 03:32 PM
Do we have any idea how Hasbro handles running changes from the production end of things? I sort of figured they made all of the first version, then switched. Is it possible that sometime in the production run of the ESB wave, they ran out of Edian and started using Utris? (Which would mean that there would logically be at least a few more Utrises floating around.) Then again, if that were to happen, I'd think they'd have the HK-50 part, unless the figures are totally packaged and just waiting to be boxed up.

Some insight into Hasbro's procedures might explain this, but I doubt they'll be especially forthcoming.
No, that's not how it works, they have unique item numbers despite being on the same card. They need to run different trays and sometimes different accessories.

Great find. I would guess this was mixed in with the very last dribs of a running change case that Target had ordered, it's a "cusp" item. Since it has a unique UPC code, and Target was able to ring it up, that means this was intentional.

El Chuxter
03-22-2010, 03:38 PM
No, that's not how it works, they have unique item numbers despite being on the same card.... Since it has a unique UPC code, and Target was able to ring it up, that means this was intentional.

I hadn't even checked this, JT. Sure enough, it's a different UPC number. Edian is 653569444756, and Utris is 653569464914. Both have a part number of 6932275100, but that's on the card which, thanks to the droid part info being on a sticker, appears to be identical on both. (I imagine I don't have to tell you the UPC is on the bubble insert.)

bigbarada
03-22-2010, 11:31 PM
My first inclination was to say that perhaps somebody returned one or both after getting them online or something, but that wouldn't really make sense.

This makes the most sense to me. In the past, I've seen figures at Walmart with K-Mart price stickers on them. So, unless some more of these figures show up at different Targets, then I think I would blame an inattentive or unknowledgeable returns clerk at that particular Target store.

El Chuxter
03-22-2010, 11:47 PM
But who in their right mind would order an impossible-to-find figure and return it to get less than it would've cost them to get it online? Even if there was someone who wanted to play a joke and see if someone found it who posted online that he'd found it, there's the rub that anyone who knows the deal with Utris would know he could sell it for double digit prices, easily.

And why, since the UPC's are different from the previous Bespin Guard, would this thing be in Target's system at all, if it's an item they weren't supposed to get?

El Chuxter
03-22-2010, 11:51 PM
I should add that, again, I don't think it's impossible. It would just require someone have a bizarre sense of humor, or that he's a few X-Wings short of a Rogue Squadron.

bigbarada
03-23-2010, 12:04 AM
I should add that, again, I don't think it's impossible. It would just require someone have a bizarre sense of humor, or that he's a few X-Wings short of a Rogue Squadron.

It's impossible to try to guess the possible motives for someone doing this, but until more of these start being found at different Targets across the country, it's still the most probable explanation.

TheDarthVader
03-23-2010, 09:22 AM
All I know is that you are going to have every member of this forum going to Target to see if they can find their own unique legacy star wars figures. HA!

ncbarrett
03-23-2010, 09:31 AM
All I know is that you are going to have every member of this forum going to Target to see if they can find their own unique legacy star wars figures. HA!

:p Guilty as charged

sonofsokol
03-23-2010, 01:12 PM
Maybe this is far fetched, but is it possible that Hasbro Toyshop is actually sending out the Utris M'toc figure? About a month ago, (in another thread) Snowtrooper said

HTS had the ESB revision wave in stock yesterday. For the Bespin Wing Guard, they had a picture of the alien version. He's out of stock now, but I placed an order for a couple of guards(plus other items) to see what the heck I get. If I end up getting the black version that'll be fine since I wanted few more anyways.

Later he said he ended up receiving the black gaurd, but what if somebody ordered the black gaurd, but actually ended up with Utris and they didn't want it?

As for the concept IG-88, one Christmas I ordered a bunch of figures from HTS and ended up with a couple duplicates from other people. When I tried to return a couple to Toys R Us the ones from HTS had different UPCs and were not in the Computer. They had international labling if I recall, like this IG-88 Concept does.

My guess is that figures were ordered from HTS and both were "returned" by the same person to that particular Target. This is assuming that somehow HTS had access to Utris in the first place and it doesn't explain why the UPC for Utris was in Target's computers.:confused:

TheDarthVader
03-27-2010, 12:44 PM
And the mystery continues...no strange figures at my Target yet.

JediTricks
03-27-2010, 04:53 PM
I hadn't even checked this, JT. Sure enough, it's a different UPC number. Edian is 653569444756, and Utris is 653569464914. Both have a part number of 6932275100, but that's on the card which, thanks to the droid part info being on a sticker, appears to be identical on both. (I imagine I don't have to tell you the UPC is on the bubble insert.)Part numbers are about the overall cases, I believe, that's how it'll work when they're all from the same line.

I'm quite confident that what happened here is Hasbro sent out product to Target's distribution center that was ordered before Hasbro changed their minds on the exclusivity of the wave. It's possible that the case they got was the new case, but my guess is that Utris was slated as pack-in to another case and a few of those got out without the actual EU wave.

El Chuxter
03-28-2010, 12:20 AM
Not quite the same thing, but a slightly odd find at TRU yesterday. See, I found the Scanning Crew Guy with HK-50 part (so, obviously, a repack). I couldn't remember which one was the one I had. I stupidly looked at the back, saw a different accessory than was in the package, and thought it was the new one. When I saw a UPC sticker, with a different code, which didn't ring up on the price checker, I just knew I had an ultra-rare second version. (I don't think I need to tell you I got home and found I had a duplicate figure. One which might be a pain to return, given that the cashier had to go and pick out a random figure with a correct UPC.)

The thing that's weird, though--every single Legacy figure, mostly the ANH and ESB waves, had stickers like this. And none of the ones I checked were in their computer!

Jedi Law Student
03-28-2010, 02:43 PM
I agree with JediTricks. I don't think there was any funny business. It was definitely a great find, though, regardless of who is right.

TheDarthVader
03-29-2010, 08:54 PM
Sounds to me like Hasbro is just loading off some legacy figures that are layin' around due to the new round of figures that will be released soon.

JediTricks
03-30-2010, 09:24 PM
Not quite the same thing, but a slightly odd find at TRU yesterday. See, I found the Scanning Crew Guy with HK-50 part (so, obviously, a repack). I couldn't remember which one was the one I had. I stupidly looked at the back, saw a different accessory than was in the package, and thought it was the new one. When I saw a UPC sticker, with a different code, which didn't ring up on the price checker, I just knew I had an ultra-rare second version. (I don't think I need to tell you I got home and found I had a duplicate figure. One which might be a pain to return, given that the cashier had to go and pick out a random figure with a correct UPC.)

The thing that's weird, though--every single Legacy figure, mostly the ANH and ESB waves, had stickers like this. And none of the ones I checked were in their computer!Yes, I reported the TRU upc stickers on the ESB packs about a month ago, my theory is that they're gearing up for their exclusive wave somehow. If you're going to return that figure, do it soon, try to do it when the employee is there and before they've entered the figure in the system. That said, you're probably hosed because they're having a sale right now and won't trust you.

Mr. JabbaJohnL
03-31-2010, 12:51 AM
Yes, I reported the TRU upc stickers on the ESB packs about a month ago, my theory is that they're gearing up for their exclusive wave somehow. If you're going to return that figure, do it soon, try to do it when the employee is there and before they've entered the figure in the system. That said, you're probably hosed because they're having a sale right now and won't trust you.
I bought three figures from the ESB repack wave last week - a Gungan Soldier, Snowtrooper, and Stormtrooper - and they all had a different UPC sticker on the bubble. I got them at two different Walmarts, and forgot to check if others had them. I wonder, then, if it's not a TRU thing but rather an ESB wave/repack thing.

A.J.
03-31-2010, 10:32 AM
Found stickered ESB repacks at both Target and TRU within the last 2 weeks

JediTricks
03-31-2010, 03:54 PM
Huh, ok. I guess it's a Hasbro thing.

El Chuxter
04-01-2010, 07:40 PM
In any case, has anyone else, anywhere, found an Utris? Every day that goes by without at least one more sighting makes them seem even more bizarre to me.

JediTricks
04-11-2010, 10:41 PM
Judging by there being zero entries on ebay over the last 30 days, I'd say you are the first person ever.

El Chuxter
04-11-2010, 10:42 PM
I cannot believe that I got the only Utriss M'toc shipped to the US. Has anyone, anywhere, on any site, reported seeing another?

Edit: looks like you were posting at the same time, JT. I'm really, really finding this bizarre. It would be infinitely less bizarre if someone else found the little guy.

JediTricks
04-11-2010, 10:56 PM
My guess is maybe a handful of folks got them, maybe as much as 100 the way the Holo Leia R2-D2 figure was (the original before they retooled the dome design), but they're so scattered the news isn't out there.