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Lobito
02-28-2002, 01:52 PM
Of all the games u guys have played in all the systems (PC included) what was the toughest game to beat??

I can think of Rocky for the master system..b4 getting a rapid fire controller...i did beat the game winning by decision against Drago.

Phantasy star was also a tough cookie. Rougue Squadron had a Y-wing mission that was almost impossible to get the gold medal.

The control room in James Bond Golden Eye for the N64 was alos extremely difficult.

Your thoughts...

Wolfwood319
02-28-2002, 03:14 PM
Evil Dead: Hail to the King comes to mind. A great concept, but horrid controls and difficult monsters made this an excercise in frustration. I got about halfway through it, and ran into a boss I couldn't beat. Then I gave up.

Zelda 2 for NES is another one, very difficult if I remember correctly.

Lord Malakite
02-28-2002, 04:20 PM
Isn't it ironic, the hardest games to beat are usually the crappiest made. :D

Here are some that I have played and found difficult to beat:

IRONSWORD: Wizards and Warriors II - (NES)
Metal Mech - (NES)
Dragon Power [Dragon Ball] - (NES)
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles - (NES)
Jurrassic Park - (NES)
Jurrassic Park - (SNES)
Jurrassic Park 2: Chaos Continues - (SNES)
Friday the 13th - (NES)
Adams Family Values - (SNES)
Batman - (NES)
Batman Forever - (SNES)

SithDroid
02-28-2002, 11:08 PM
I agree. Evil Dead is a complicated game to play due to the horrible controls. I got really frustrated with the game and gave up because of the difficult game play.

LTBasker
02-28-2002, 11:19 PM
Rogue Leader without a memory card to save your game. :D

SithDroid
02-28-2002, 11:21 PM
Also forgot about SW Force Commander. Is it just me or was that game incredibly hard to control? Didn't like it in the least.

Dar' Argol
03-03-2002, 08:00 PM
Has everyone forgot about The Addams Family: Festers Quest?!?!?!?!?! That game was so confusing, controls were . . . well I can't say that word here, and the gameplay was terrible!!!! Plus it was on the NES. Another one I can think of off the top of my head is Brigidine for the PS. That game is amost impossible to play through and beat!!

*Sigh* many Hours of my life have been wasted on just those two games.

OH!!! Another was the Star Wars game that came out for Sega's 32X. I thing it was just called Star Wars. The graphics on that were bad even for that time. There was no possible way to get past level 3 without a second player!!

Sith Worm
03-03-2002, 08:30 PM
I would have to go with the Playstation2 version of Grand theft auto III. I wish they would release A Star Wars game in this format were you have to work for the Empire or the Rebellion , or both and have to steal ships and drop them of to the other side. It would be awsome the game play would be limitless being chased by stormtroopers instead of cops, having to hunt down and snipe Imperal officers from roof tops, limitless...

GeneralKenobi
03-05-2002, 09:28 PM
I agree with Fester's Quest whole-heartedly...the toughest game for me and still is today is Blaster Master for NES... I still try to beat it but to no avail...cool game as well.

Lobito
03-06-2002, 01:26 PM
Here are more:

Sega Master System...

Maze Hunter 3-D
Thunder Blade
Blade Eagle 3-D
After Burner
Space Harrier
Miracle Warriors

Genesis...

The SUPERMAN version from sunsoft was extremly hard...i got to the end, but i never finished it.
Batman returns for the Sega CD
JAGUAR X for the Sega CD

N64...

Getting all the challenge points in Shadows of the empire.
Getting all the gold medals in Rougue Squadron
Getting all the stars in SuperMario64
Getting all the objects (pieces of puzzle, etc.) in both banjo games.
Solving the riddles of the Zelda games. Ocarina of time and Majora's Mask.

Game cube...

Getting all the gold and platinum medals in Rougue Leader...(I'm still working on that!!) I'm just missing the Gold in Death Star Attack, Imperial Academy Heist, and Battle of Endor...any tips for getting the gold here would be really appreciated.

Lord Malakite
03-06-2002, 04:13 PM
Death Star Attack
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Recommended Ship: X-Wing

As soon as the level starts, take out the deflection tower. Make a 90 degree turn and take out the other one, as well as the small turret next to it. Continue on, and take out yet another, as well as the 2 small turrets near it. Go to the next one and take out 3 turrets. The next one has 1, and the last one in this line has 3. Make about a 100 degree turn to the left, and take out the 2 on your way. Then take out this tower and its 2 guarding turrets. Aim a bit to the right, and take out the final tower in this line and the 6 turrets around it. Make another 90 degree turn to the left, and youll be told theres 2 more to go. Take out the final 2 deflection towers and as many defending turrets as you can. If you hear base 1 say, "We're running out of time!" you may want
to consider restarting.

For the next section with the TIEs, it's pretty much pure skill. At the start make a 90 degree turn to the left, and dive to take down a gun on your way. You should see a 5 fighter squad. Since the TIEs behave randomly, I can't help you after that. But if theres a long distance between you and the next squad, feel free to take down guns on your way. You can also use 3 seeking torpedoes at your liesure. Use the 4th torpedo on the last fighter. As soon as you fire it, dive down and kill as many guns as you can before you switch to the trench.

At the start of the trench, close your S-foils until you come into range of the guns. You really need to move fast here, yet you also need to take down as many guns as possible. Never, ever hit the brakes. Hopefully youll take down about 3/4s of them. In fact, the only time you should brake is when the TIEs attack you. When Vader attacks, fire as many shots as you can into him. He should make 2 passes on you. When he approaches for the 3rd. time, don't bother to slow down. Close the S-Foils and move. Han should approach shortly and destroy him if you've kept your speed up. After Han attacks it should be a straightaway to the exhaust port. If its not, your in trouble. That leaves you 2 torpedoes to fire at the exhaust port, just in case you miss.

Imperial Academy Hiest
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Recommended Craft: Y-Wing

In order to get the gold here, it is recommended you do this mission in the day, so you have the Y-Wing. If its not day, you can always set your Gamecube's clock to morning.

On the approach ionize every sensor, but try to keep your speed up. Once you get to the last sensor, take the canyon to your right. You'll appear in an imperial base. Fly around to every platform and drop 2 bombs on each - one on both sides. This will take down the parked fighters, making your job easier and earning kills. Do this for all 3 platforms, then move towards your objective. You'll appear in another base. Bomb all 3 platforms again. Finally head for your objective again and you'll be at the academy. If you've been here before you know theres lines of parked fighters. Laser about 4 rows of them. Save at least 2 rows on the left quadrant while approaching though - you can
destroy those with the shuttle while fleeing. Also, bomb all 8 guns. Four are around the tower, another 4 by the shuttle. Steal it, and laser the 2 remaining rows on your way out. Head to the objective, but use the rear gun sparingly. You need to keep accuracy high. In fact, if you think you'll make it without being destroyed, don't use it at all.

Battle of Endor
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Recommended Craft: X-Wing, Naboo Starfighter

There isn't a whole lot to say about the first part of this level, since it's just one huge dogfight. Keep your wings in formation and immediatly turn around at the mission start to head for the fighters. Kill as many as you can. Eventually that annoying lady from the medical frigate will gripe at you. Send off your wings after the fighters. Dogfight until the TIE Bombers show up. Take out as many as you can on the first run, and follow up by taking out some more. Then just go back to dogfighting whoever you see. When Lando says the frigate isn't going to last much
longer, go kill the TIE Bombers.

On the second part, close your S-Foils (if you are the X-Wing) and head after the Star Destroyer. Keep your wings in formation. Wait until the large squadron of fighters passes under you, then tell your wings to go engage them. Open your S-Foils (if you are the X-Wing) when you get in range and make a run on the first generator. Don't slow down though. Fly over the generator to the back of the ship, get a fair distance away, and turn around. Hold in the brake and kill both generators. The Star Destroy is focused on everything else so probably won't even fire back. Dive straight down, then come up for the last generator. Swing back around to the bridge and destroy it.

Your shields probably aren't in the greatest of shape here, but your allowed one death. Head off to the second Star Destroyer and use the same strategy, or just ram the bridge kamakaze style right off if you still have that one life. When it goes down, you should have time to fight a couple of TIE Interceptor Squadrons before the mission ends. Use seeker torpedoes on them if you have any left. Also try to take out a few guns and turbolasers on the Star Destroyers if you can.

QLD
03-06-2002, 05:49 PM
I remember vreezing through Zelda 2 when it came out. But Festers Quest was insanely hard.

I had a devil of a time beating Adventures of Bayou Billy.
That game was rough.

Karnov - NES, my friend and I took turns sleeping while the other played. I think it took us almost 24 hours to beat it. That game had like 3,000 levels, but thank God for unlimites continues.

Solomans Key - NES. It started easy but got insane quickly. Very fun and addictive though.

Target Earth - genesis. Thsi game is impossible. The best day of my life was when I found the cheat codes to this game. It had a cool story too.

Captain Novaline - SNES - Oh, you meant hardest to beat. This game is so bad, it was very hard to play.

Night Trap - Sega CD - I don't believe anyone ever beat this game without cheating. You had to be in the exact right place, 1000 times, 2 seconds apart. It was hard even with the guide right in front of me.

Ghosts N Goblins - NES - Hard. To me anyway.

Castlevania - NES - Grim Reaper took me forever to beat.

That's all I can think of for the moment. I thought I would add some different ones to the list.

jw_bryant
03-06-2002, 07:15 PM
my dad would play Festers quest just about every weekend, and get to the very last boss every time, but he never beat it. i think he gave up. :)

187-Maul
03-24-2002, 10:06 AM
I agree with evil dead
anyone ever played blade or spiderman for playstaion? they're pretty tough too I think, never wanted to play long so never came past level 1 !!!

Lobito
03-25-2002, 08:12 PM
I Played the N64 version of spiderman, the hardest part for me was at the end, when u are being chased by the Octomonster. Boy that was hard. Getting all the comics was tough but fun too.:)

billfremore
03-26-2002, 12:26 PM
My list of the hardest games:

Jedi Power Battles - PSX
This game was impossible to finish with all of the characters, I only managed to finish it with Mace and Obi-wan

and,

Driver and Driver 2
The final levels of these games were next to impossible to finish, took me hundreds of tries.

jw_bryant
03-26-2002, 06:30 PM
Originally posted by LTBasker
Rogue Leader without a memory card to save your game. :D

try beating MGS2 without a Memory Card. :eek: it took him a while, but my uncle did it. of course, he had my help. :)

browndroid
03-26-2002, 07:07 PM
Originally posted by Sith Worm
I would have to go with the Playstation2 version of Grand theft auto III. I wish they would release A Star Wars game in this format were you have to work for the Empire or the Rebellion , or both and have to steal ships and drop them of to the other side. It would be awsome the game play would be limitless being chased by stormtroopers instead of cops, having to hunt down and snipe Imperal officers from roof tops, limitless...
well they are coming out with a bounty hunter game, where you hunt down people and sell them...kinda close...

Lobito
04-09-2002, 03:13 PM
Getting the platinum medals in Battle for Naboo is tough!!:mad: Still...i am missing one gold medal also, "Panakas diversion" any tips??

Lord Malakite
04-09-2002, 04:30 PM
Originally posted by Lobito
Getting the platinum medals in Battle for Naboo is tough!!:mad: Still...i am missing one gold medal also, "Panakas diversion" any tips??
Getting Platinums aren't too hard. I got 15 Platinums in one week. You just have to know the various tricks of the trade.

For Panaka's Diversion, use the Gian speeder. At the start, fire at the four droid in front of you, and run over any that you missed. Go to the left of the fork, and take out the two droids there. You will pass some droids near some bushes. Destroy them while charging up your laser. Around the bend, far down the street will be an AAT. You need to take this guy out as quickly as you can. When it's gone, go to where the walls end, look right and nail the AAT there. Take out the two battle droids against the wall. Now, across the river will be an AAT. You can destroy it, but you'll need to have to start charging your laser right after you destroyed that second AAT. You can also skip over it, and evade its lasers while going along the dock. I prefer to take it out. Take out any battle droids you see.

A cutscene will break in showing Group Two is under attack.
While you're going to Palmer's Predicament, you will have to destroy some bars. Either let Kohl do that for you, or just go past them without destroying them. The first one you can pass right through if you are next to, and parrallel, with the wall to your left. The second one can be passed if you destroy the pots with your lasers. The final one can be destroyed with a slightly charged shot. You should destroy some battle droids after passing through the first gate. At the second one, just go right through. You'll eventually come to two droids next to a downward slope. Take them out, charge up your laser, go down the slope and take out the AAT. Knock out the two droids on the bridge and destroy the gate. Expose yourself just a little onto the bridge, far enough to where you can see the AATs on either side, but not so far as they can see you. Take them out then quickly move on. Ahead, you can either go up a slope or to the right. Go up the slope, and
take out the droids. While going through the tunnel, take out all the droids before Kohl can (this is why you should try and stay ahead of him instead of waiting for him to destroy the gates. Stop when you can see an AAT (just before you reach the turn). From here, take out the droid by the bush and get next to the wall, you can take out both Droidekas and then both AATs attacking Palmer.

When Palmer begins thanking you, go left, past the two remaining droidekas there. Now you'll be making your way to the courthouse. Charge up your laser. When you see the second section of trees, there will be two AATs coming. Destroy them. Shoot the dome and the statues to increase your accuracy as you are going to the courthouse. When you get into the courthouse, you will probably be a bit low on health. Take out the enemies in this order:

* The first AAT when you come in.
* The two battle droids on the lower level.
* The second AAT.
* The destroyer droids.
* The battle droids left on the upper level.

When they are all gone and the commandos come in (the big green rectangle), go immediately toward Kelsia Plaza. Take out the two battle droids on the way, and then stop just before you enter the plaza. From here, take out all the battle droids and the destroyer in the plaza, being as accurate as you can possibly be. When they're all gone, Go into the center of the plaza, and take aim at the door. Fire your primary and secondary weapons repeatedly at the door until it explodes. This serves as a great accuracy increaser. Plus it will save you more time than waiting for the commandos.

Now, simply go to where Panaka is, charge up your laser along the way, and take out a tank. Go into the plaza and destroy the other three, and take out a few battle droids while you're at it. Congratulations, you have just gotten one of the hardest golds or platinums, if you were even luckier, in the game.

Lobito
04-09-2002, 04:37 PM
Man...u make it sound so easy!!! I'll try it again today, if u are correct i'll buy the beers at the tavern.:)

Lone Jedi
04-16-2002, 09:52 PM
Ninja Gaiden on NES was a tough game to beat.

Lobito
07-08-2002, 07:11 PM
What about Racer for the N64 Lord Malakite?? Did u got all the 1st places in all the races?? I did, but it took me forever...specially the tracks that look like a roller coaster. Also there's a track that looks like a swamp that was really tough. I forgot the names of the tracks, but i'm sure u know which ones i'm talking about.

JediDan
07-09-2002, 04:57 PM
Yes I agree with Quite-Long-Dong. Target Earth for the Genesis was impossible. I couldn't even beat the 3rd stage TILL that awesome cheat code came out. That game was awesome.

Darth Evil
07-10-2002, 01:00 PM
Spider-Man on the PSX was quite easy, I thought. It was fairly difficult on Hard though. The last levels in Driver and Driver 2 WERE extremely difficult!

Jonna
07-10-2002, 01:16 PM
Originally posted by Wolfwood319
Evil Dead: Hail to the King comes to mind. A great concept, but horrid controls and difficult monsters made this an excercise in frustration. I got about halfway through it, and ran into a boss I couldn't beat. Then I gave up.


You're right; you have to use something like 12 buttons to do the controls. The last monster really isn't that hard though just keep running from pillar to pillar and grab all of the health mushrooms that pop up.:D

Jonna
07-10-2002, 01:18 PM
Originally posted by billfremore
My list of the hardest games:

Jedi Power Battles - PSX
This game was impossible to finish with all of the characters, I only managed to finish it with Mace and Obi-wan


Ya, there is no way you can beat Maul with all of the characters, but it was fun to play as Maul.:p

billfremore
07-10-2002, 01:27 PM
Originally posted by Jonna


Ya, there is no way you can beat Maul with all of the characters, but it was fun to play as Maul.:p

How did you manage that? Play as Maul I mean.

Jonna
07-10-2002, 01:33 PM
Originally posted by billfremore


How did you manage that? Play as Maul I mean.

I haven't played it in a while, but I think it was as follows. Once you beat the game with each character you will get a secret feature. Some come in the form of special stages while others are extra characters. The only extra characters I can remember are Maul and Amadala (who sucks by the way, you just can't play the game with a blaster). To use the extra characters, you need to beat the game with a character, start over in the 'choose your character' screen, select a character and press the 'select button', you should get a new character.

Wait a minute and I'll find the info for you and anyone else who cares.:D

billfremore
07-10-2002, 01:35 PM
I managed to free up Amidala and Panaka when I played but all I really want to know is:

How the heck do you beat this freakin' hard game with all the characters?

Jonna
07-10-2002, 01:40 PM
Just go to this walkthough and to the secrets section to play levels 11, 12, 13, 14 and play characters: DARTH MAUL, QUEEN AMIDALA, CAPTAIN PANAKA.

http://db.gamefaqs.com/console/psx/file/jedi_power_battles.txt

Maul is the best character and level 14 is insanely hard! I made it to the last group of badies only once.

Jonna
07-10-2002, 01:43 PM
Originally posted by billfremore
I managed to free up Amidala and Panaka when I played but all I really want to know is:

How the heck do you beat this freakin' hard game with all the characters?


I tryed forever to beat it with Plo Koon, but he just does not move fast enough to beat Maul. You definately need speed to beat Maul.:mad:

billfremore
07-10-2002, 01:46 PM
That I agree with, obi-wan and mace were realitively easy to beat him with.

I cannot believe this game has absolutely no cheats.

Lord Malakite
07-11-2002, 07:29 AM
Originally posted by Lobito
What about Racer for the N64 Lord Malakite?? Did u got all the 1st places in all the races?? I did, but it took me forever...specially the tracks that look like a roller coaster. Also there's a track that looks like a swamp that was really tough. I forgot the names of the tracks, but i'm sure u know which ones i'm talking about.

I know which ones you are talking about. :) Of the races and circuits I've completed so far, I have all first places. Unfortunately, racing games aren't particularily one of my strong points when it comes to video games.

-JediMaster-Yoda-
07-19-2002, 09:25 PM
gta3 was so easy!
i'am also pretty good at racing games and also podracer is hard but i never had to restart a race..cant wait for racer revenge!

morecow299
07-26-2002, 12:25 AM
i agree that swamp level is imposible. it is the hardest level in the game. i have a ps2 is jedi power battles worth buying. it sounds pretty cool

MikeAndTheBots
07-26-2002, 12:36 AM
You know, the last level of halo is sort of hard. I can't really think of the last really hard game I played was...

Boba Rhett
07-26-2002, 01:41 AM
JPB is complete trash. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. :D

billfremore
07-26-2002, 08:35 AM
Well despite that fact I'd still like to finish the freaking game anyways. :D

Lord Malakite
07-26-2002, 04:41 PM
Just finished the rest of the races that I needed for Episode I Racer. Now I have 1st. place in all the races and circuits like you Lobito. ;)

QLD
07-27-2002, 11:18 AM
I gotta agree with Boba Rhett on the JPB thing. I couldn't get past the 3rd level because it made me nasueous. But I am sure it is hard to beat, since the camera angles are atrocious.

scruffziller
07-29-2002, 07:56 AM
Atari...... Raiders of the Lost Ark could never get past the branch screen.
Nintendo-Legacy of the Wizard. Really fun, but tough.
Super N- Super Contra
N64- Rougue Squadron
Gamecube-Super Smash Bros Melee. Hand aches.
PC- Bad Mojo

Lobito
07-29-2002, 11:45 AM
Just finished the rest of the races that I needed for Episode I Racer. Now I have 1st. place in all the races and circuits like you Lobito.

Thats great LM!! I'm still trying to get the platinum medals for Battle for Naboo, (i have just 2 platinum medals) but i'm getting there.:)

Lobito
07-30-2002, 05:35 PM
BTW... this one is for those of u who have Gauntlet Dark Legacy...so far i've completed the game, but i am missing 1 secret character...but since this character is hidden in the end of the game...(1 level b4 the last fight with Garn) do u know any strategies to unlocking this character without cheating???

JON9000
07-30-2002, 08:15 PM
Originally posted by Quite-Long Dong

Ghosts N Goblins - NES - Hard. To me anyway.

Castlevania - NES - Grim Reaper took me forever to beat.


Those 2 stand out to me as well. I knew plenty of people who managed to somehow skip to the end of Ghosts N Goblins and wax Satan, but I never met anyone who could get all the way through.

The first Castlevania was really difficult as well. I never had the NES advantage so I couldn't slow down with the Grim Reaper.

QLD
07-31-2002, 02:35 AM
Yeah, it took me forever to beat those two games. I mean, years for Ghosts N' Goblins.....and close to that for Castlevania. I had an advantage, and the Grim Reaper was STILL tough!

I went crazy when I finally beat him. Dracula wasn't as tough as he was.

Ghost's N' Goblins has cheat codes, but when you used them, you had no armor. Only way I could beat Satan was to get there with tons of power ups.