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Tycho
06-24-2010, 01:41 PM
I have a Photoshop project for only the best, most enterprising person (with time on their hands) to tackle.

I designed the look for a "Kenner-style" cardback showing all the modern figures arranged like an '80's cardback (see picture of one below - but I'd recommend blue for the new cardback, similar to the way ESB cardbacks were done). Someone could edit the pictures of the modern figures in and make a great poster!

I changed the order of the figures via a new strategy for displaying them.

Left-to-right in rows approximating ANH, ESB, and ROTJ, the columns go:

Luke, Han, Leia, Droids, Jedi, Imperials, Sith - with variation rows such as:

Luke, Han, Leia, Droids, Cantina

Luke, Han, Leia, Cloud City, Bounty Hunters, Imperials

Luke, Han, Leia, Rebel Alliance, Ewoks, Imperials

Luke, Han, Leia, Jabba the Hutt's gangsters


I count 102 original vintage MOVIE figures, noting that the vintage cardbacks would remove older versions of C-3PO and R2D2, not show both Snaggletoothes, the Max Rebo Band Members, or count Jabba the Hutt and Salacious Crumb even though they were characters and not creatures.

In rows of 10, 102 figures could be displayed to create an easy visual reference guide to the best updates for the modern figures by this order (leaving 5 blank spaces so one can fill them in with pictures later when those figures get made):

Luke-Han-Leia-Chewie-R2D2-C3PO-Obi-Wan-Death Squad Cmdr-Stormtrooper-Vader

Luke Xwing-Tusken Raider-Jawa-Blue Snag-Red Snag-R5D4-Gonk-Walrusman-Momaw-Greedo

Luke Bespin-Han Hoth-Leia Bespin-Lando-Bespin Security-FX7-Yoda-RA7-Snowtrooper-IG88

Hoth Rebel-Hoth Reb Cmdr-Lobot-Ugnaught-C3PO RL-21B-Dengar-Bossk-Imp Crdr-Boba Fett

Luke Hoth-Han Bespin-Leia Hoth-Black Besp Gd-Cloud Cr Plt-R2D2 Sens-Zuckuss-4LOM-ATAT Cm-ATAT Dr

Luke Jedi-Leia Boussh-Lando Skf-Ad Ackbar-Endor Reb-G Madine-Chirpa-Logray-Royl Gd-TIE Plt

Han Endor-Bwing Pilot-Nien Numb-Prune Face-Teebo-Wicket-Bib F-Imp Dig-Emperor-Biker Scout

Luke Troopr-Han Carb-Leia Endor-Lando G-R2 LSaber-Lumat-Gamorr-ATST-Anakin-DS Gunner

Luke Endor-Awing Plt-Paploo-Warok-Romba-Klaatu Skf-Nikto-Klaatu-Amanaman-Barada

Sy Snoot-Droopy-Max-Rancor Kpr-8D8-EV9D9-ReeYees-YakFace-Tessek-Weequay

Jabba the Hutt, Salacious Crumb


In case anyone else wants to tackle this project, here are the links to the figures I thought would look best:

(please be sure to credit Rebelscum's photographer(s) since their work made this possible)

In BOLD are figures that have not been re-made (the right characters because yes I know there are 2 Imperial Dignitaries and tons of Hoth Rebel Soldiers, etc). Like I said - I'd save space for them so you can add them to your image in another year or so.

Anyway, who wants to make this? Steve should post it on the mainpage when it's done for sure! :thumbsup:


(97 of 102 have now been made).



1) Luke
http://www.rebelscum.com/sw0331lukete.asp

2) Han
http://www.rebelscum.com/tsc035hansolo.asp

3) Leia
http://www.rebelscum.com/OTC09princessleia.asp

4) Chewie
http://www.rebelscum.com/tsc054chewbacca.asp

5) R2-D2
http://www.rebelscum.com/OTC-Vr2d2.asp

6) C-3PO
http://www.rebelscum.com/tsc042c3po.asp

7) Obi-Wan Kenobi
http://www.rebelscum.com/TLC34ben.asp

8) Death Squad Commander
http://www.rebelscum.com/TAC13DST.asp

9) Stormtrooper
http://www.rebelscum.com/TLCBD46storm.asp

10) Darth Vader
http://www.rebelscum.com/TLC08Vader.asp


11) Luke X-wing
http://www.rebelscum.com/OTC05lukexwing.asp

12) Tusken Raider
http://www.rebelscum.com/TSC-Vsand.asp

13) Jawa
http://www.rebelscum.com/TLCBD39Jawa.asp

14) Blue Snaggletooth
http://www.rebelscum.com/OTCsscantinaII.asp

15) Red Snaggletooth
http://www.rebelscum.com/POTJzutton.asp

16) R5-D4
http://www.rebelscum.com/tsc032r5d4.asp

17) Power Droid
http://www.rebelscum.com/TSC014powerdroid.asp

18) Walrusman
http://www.rebelscum.com/OTCsscantinaII.asp

19) Hammerhead
http://www.rebelscum.com/tsc031momaw.asp

20) Greedo
http://www.rebelscum.com/OTC22greedo.asp


21) Luke Bespin
http://photos.sirstevesguide.com/sli...star-wars.html


22) Han Hoth
http://www.rebelscum.com/sw0313hansolohr.asp

23) Leia Bespin
http://www.rebelscum.com/OTC18leiabespingown.asp

24) Lando
http://www.rebelscum.com/OTC-Vlando.asp

xx) Bespin Security Guard (not yet made – NO PICTURE)

25.5) FX-7
http://www.rebelscum.com/POTJfx7.asp

26) Yoda
http://www.rebelscum.com/OTC-Vyoda.asp

27) Death Star Droid
http://www.rebelscum.com/TLCBADMBRA7.asp

28) Snowtrooper
http://www.rebelscum.com/TLCBD55Snow.asp

29) IG-88
http://www.rebelscum.com/VTSCIG88.asp

30) Boba Fett
http://www.rebelscum.com/TLCBD36Boba.asp


xx) Hoth Rebel Soldier (not yet made – NO PICTURE)

31.5) Hoth Rebel Commander
http://www.rebelscum.com/TLC42Hoth1.asp

32) Lobot
http://www.rebelscum.com/OTC20lobot.asp

33) Ugnaught
http://www.rebelscum.com/TLC43ugnaught1.asp

34) C-3PO Removeable Limbs
http://www.rebelscum.com/POTF2c3polimbs.asp

35) 2-1B
http://www.rebelscum.com/POTF221b.asp

36) Dengar
http://photos.sirstevesguide.com/sli...star-wars.html

37) Bossk
http://www.rebelscum.com/VTSCBossk.asp

38) Imperial Commader
http://www.rebelscum.com/sw0255impofficer.asp

39) AT-AT Driver
http://www.rebelscum.com/TLCBD49ATATDriver.asp

40) AT-AT Commander (General Veers)
http://www.rebelscum.com/TSC007veers.asp


41) Luke Hoth
http://www.rebelscum.com/sw0403lukeskywalkerha.asp

42) Han Bespin
http://www.rebelscum.com/potjhanbespincapture.asp

43) Leia Hoth
http://photos.sirstevesguide.com/sli...star-wars.html

44) R2-D2 Sensorscope
http://www.rebelscum.com/TLCBD29R2D2.asp

45) Black Bespin Guard
http://www.rebelscum.com/TLCBD50WingEdian.asp

46) Cloud Car Pilot
http://www.rebelscum.com/OTC19cloudcarpilot.asp

47) 4-LOM (actually Zuckuss)
http://www.rebelscum.com/TLCBD54Zuckuss.asp

48) Zuckuss (actually 4-LOM)
http://www.rebelscum.com/TAC414LOM.asp

49) Imperial TIE Fighter Pilot

http://www.rebelscum.com/OTC21tiepilot.asp

50) Emperor’s Royal Guard
http://www.rebelscum.com/ROTS0523royalguardR.asp

51) Luke Jedi
http://www.rebelscum.com/sw0404lukejedi.asp

52) Leia Boussh Disguise
http://www.rebelscum.com/TSC001leiaboushh.asp

53) Lando Skiff Guard
http://www.rebelscum.com/OTC32landoskiff.asp

54) Admiral Ackbar
http://www.rebelscum.com/POTF2ackbar.asp

55) Endor Rebel Soldier
http://www.rebelscum.com/sagarebelendor.asp

56) General Madine
http://www.rebelscum.com/OTC36generalmadine.asp

57) Logray
http://www.rebelscum.com/POTF2ewoks.asp

58) Chief Chirpa
http://www.rebelscum.com/tsc039chirpa.asp

59) Biker Scout
http://www.rebelscum.com/OTC11bikerscout.asp

60) Emperor Palpatine
http://www.rebelscum.com/TLC39Emperor.asp


61) Nien Numb
http://www.rebelscum.com/POTF2niennunb.asp

62) Han Endor
http://www.rebelscum.com/TSC-Vhanendor.asp


63) B-wing Pilot
http://www.rebelscum.com/tlcEVORebelPilots2.asp

64) Prune Face
http://www.rebelscum.com/POTF2pruneface.asp

65) Teebo
http://www.rebelscum.com/sw0257teebo.asp

66) Wicket
http://www.rebelscum.com/OTC17wicket.asp

67) Bib Fortuna
http://www.rebelscum.com/TSC003bibfortuna.asp

68) Imperial Dignitary (not yet made – NO PICTURE of the correct one – other 2 made)

68.5) Death Star Gunner
http://www.rebelscum.com/tsc041DSgunner.asp

69) AT-ST Driver
http://www.rebelscum.com/sw03imperialforces.asp

70) Anakin Skywalker’s Ghost
http://www.rebelscum.com/POTF2anakinfb.asp

71) Luke Stormtrooper
http://www.rebelscum.com/TLC30Luke.asp

72) Han Carbonite
http://www.rebelscum.com/TSC002hancarbonite.asp

73) Leia Endor
http://www.rebelscum.com/VTSCLeia.asp

74) Lando General
http://www.rebelscum.com/OTC37landogeneral.asp

75) R2D2 Lightsaber Launch
http://www.rebelscum.com/POTF2r2fb.asp

76) Lumat (not yet made – NO PICTURE)

76.5) Paploo
http://www.rebelscum.com/TLCBD18Ewoks.asp


77) Gamorrean
http://www.rebelscum.com/OTC30gamorreanguard.asp

78) Weequay
http://www.rebelscum.com/POTF2weequay.asp

xx) Klaatu (Woof) (not yet made – NO PICTURE – though this one is coming soon)

79.5) Nikto
http://www.rebelscum.com/sw04skirmishatcarkoon.asp

80) Klaatu Skiff
http://www.rebelscum.com/sw04skirmishatcarkoon.asp

81) Luke Endor
http://www.rebelscum.com/tsc044lukeskywalker.asp

82) A-Wing Pilot
http://www.rebelscum.com/TAC44awing.asp

83) Warok
http://www.rebelscum.com/TLCBPBattleforEndor.asp


84) Romba
http://www.rebelscum.com/TAC43ewoks.asp

85) EV-9D9
http://www.rebelscum.com/POTF2ev9d9.asp

86) 8D8
http://www.rebelscum.com/POTF28d8.asp


87) Squid Head
http://www.rebelscum.com/potjtessek.asp

88) Rancor Keeper
http://www.rebelscum.com/TLCBD22Malakili.asp

89) Ree-Yees
http://www.rebelscum.com/POTF2reeyees.asp

90) Barada
http://www.rebelscum.com/TSC004barada.asp


91) Droopy McCool
http://www.rebelscum.com/POTF2bandbarquindroopy.asp

92) Sy Snootles
http://www.rebelscum.com/POTF2bandjohsy.asp

93) Max Rebo
http://www.rebelscum.com/POTF2bandmaxdoda.asp

94) Yak Face
http://www.rebelscum.com/POTF2yakface.asp

95) Amanaman
http://www.rebelscum.com/POTJdeluxeamanaman.asp

96) Salacious Crumb
http://www.rebelscum.com/TAC30c3po.asp

97) Jabba the Hutt
http://www.rebelscum.com/sw04ultrajabba.asp

Bel-Cam Jos
06-25-2010, 11:22 AM
But if you wish to duplicate the vintage card back, you'd need to "replace" earlier versions of figures (R2-D2, C3PO come to mind) with the recent ones (R2 sensorscope, limbs Threepio). And there could be black blur spots for as-yet made ones (like the Ewoks pre-ROJ).

Good idea. But, alas, I lack the requirements for

a Photoshop project for only the best, most enterprising person (with time on their hands) to tackle. :(

Snowtrooper
06-25-2010, 01:12 PM
It'd be nice if Hasbro would do something like this for the new line. While the fronts of the cards are great, the backs are kinda blah.

Darth Metalmute
06-25-2010, 01:38 PM
Photoshopping is easy compared to all the research you put into your post.

How come your card example is only the 77 figure one and not the most recent one?

DarthQuack
06-25-2010, 02:54 PM
I love the old yellow cardback....always wanted a nice poster of it. One for the modern line would be awesome.

Darth Metalmute
06-25-2010, 03:13 PM
Here is a first draft with Prune Face.
Took about an hour to do one figure.

Not perfect, but hard to do at a scale that can be uploaded to the site.
I would recommend just starting a new one. That way the figure detail can be taken into effect.

Mr. JabbaJohnL
06-25-2010, 05:06 PM
It's a nice idea, but there are still a few unmade vintage figures, and I do think it would be much easier to just cover some stairs in yellow fabric and snap a photo. But carry on as you will.

And they're not going to put a whole ton of figures on the new cardbacks, as there are never 77 different ones available at any given time. I would like something similar to the POTJ days, but I also like the character bios and pictures (which aren't even on the upcoming TVC cards).

Tycho
06-25-2010, 06:27 PM
Good work Darth Metalmute. That's the general idea.

But, first the idea IS NOT TO EXACTLY duplicate the Vintage cardback I posted a picture of as an example for any final version.

By ordering the figures like I listed them in the rows above (not the links - they are useful but somewhat out-of-order) you'll be able to see the Lukes lined up in columns, (for the most part) while the rows represent movies or themes (for the most part).

So an exact duplicate of the vintage card with the modern figures would not be as cool or useful as this new row-and-column method of ordering them.

Bel-Cam Jos I do not wish to duplicate the earlier vintage cardback exactly - R2D2 had 3 vintage versions and C-3PO had 2. I want to show all of them instead of omit the earlier ones like KENNER did back in the day. Obviously in today's modern versions, we have even more R2's and Threepios: Jabba's Sailbarge versions of each, etc. but they are NOT to be included, as this is a celebration of the original vintage line.

I mean Leia gets 5 figures shown and Lando 3. The cardback creator can put in their favorite modern version of each single unique offering of Bespin Lando, Skiff Lando, and General Lando, for example (but Smuggler Lando does not belong). I merely used the links to suggest my favorite versions of these characters' modern updates.

(Haha - I just realized Darth Vader will only get one SINGLE figure shown on this cardback much to the chagrin of his 90 other modern action figure versions :D )



How come your card example is only the 77 figure one and not the most recent one?

The cardback is only an example, so even the last POTF vintage coin card with something like 97 figures on the back is not what we're going for. This cardback must have 102 figures shown - all the R2D2s, the Rebo Band, Threepios, Snaggletooths, Salacious Crumb, and Jabba The Hutt himself, as he's a character and not a beast.

DarthQuack - you were thinking exactly like I was when I made this post-topic.


Here is a first draft with Prune Face.
Took about an hour to do one figure.

That's why it could be a long project for someone to work on. I'd do it if I had the time, but I have a few other long projects to work on.


Not perfect, but hard to do at a scale that can be uploaded to the site.

Well of course it would have to be done at a larger scale to accomodate all the image layering and scaling issues until it could finally be flattened as an image and then shrunk so it can be posted - as this cardback I used as an example obviously was. A link to the image stored on a Facebook or Photobucket page might accomodate a larger size though.

A variant copy shrunk down could be posted here to entice people to click on the link.



I would recommend just starting a new one. That way the figure detail can be taken into effect.

My figures are in storage to a great degree and I've also been working for months to organize their storage in boxes such as "Mos Eisley Cantina" which gets one Han, one Luke, one Chewie etc - whereas I have dozens of some of those figures for the scenes I want to create with them.

It would be another project to go through all the boxes and pulling the single 8D8 figure I own (I think I only bought one) and recording where I pulled him from - or worse - where I get the Imperial Senator Leia from whereas she's duplicated in many boxes from "Blockade Runner" to "Yavin Base."

So to answer JabbaJohnL's question - yes taking a new photograph would be easier if I had access to all my figures. Someday when I have a house and a place to set up my scenes, I might endeavor to do this - and setting up the figures on a staircase with a colored tarp on it might work great (nice idea!).

But I can't do it right now. Maybe someone else can.

That would save so much time from doing this as a Photoshop project. However, the latter makes so much less of an organizational mess for me (at this particular given moment).


And they're not going to put a whole ton of figures on the new cardbacks, as there are never 77 different ones available at any given time. I would like something similar to the POTJ days, but I also like the character bios and pictures (which aren't even on the upcoming TVC cards).

You're very correct JabbaJohn. That's why we have to make the poster-picture because Hasbro is not likely to do this. I don't even think they have any plans to release all the OT vintage on TVC cards. They have done some in the past already (VOTC) and Nien Numb or Malakali? Really? The POTJ days' cardbacks were OK but nothing spectacular. It showed more than 3-4 figures that were currently shipping, but the 20 or so figures that it did show were also ones available or that were recent or upcoming.

No, Hasbro is not going to make 102 figures available in the TVC - and especially not all OT with PT figures being carded this way for the first time (which I think is nevertheless a really cool idea - but not cool enough I'll be buying any figures to keep carded myself).

Still, I bet whoever makes this cardback / poster will have created a celebrated image that might rock on all the SW fansites because this would be a popular thing to do - showing a complete photo of the modern updates of all 102 vintage figures (with 5 blank spaces left so the right figures' pictures can be Photoshopped in later as good pics of Wooof (vintage Klaatu) surface, and the right Imperial Dignitary (Sim Aloo) and a white-guy Bespin Guard with a mustache are added into the collection, along with the right Hoth Rebel Soldier and Lumat.

And I still like the blue cardback style from ESB best. None of those cards (blue or gold) showed 102 figures anyway. A green the color of the POTJ cards would look cool, too. It's really up to whomever is designing this.

bigbarada
06-25-2010, 06:58 PM
The cardback is only an example, so even the last POTF vintage coin card with something like 97 figures on the back is not what we're going for. This cardback must have 102 figures shown - all the R2D2s, the Rebo Band, Threepios, Snaggletooths, Salacious Crumb, and Jabba The Hutt himself, as he's a character and not a beast.

There were 92 figures on the vintage POTF cardback and 96 figures total if you only count individual carded releases and disregard variations (blue Snaggletooth). The POTF Planetary Map did include Yak Face, though, for a total of 93 figures.


Well of course it would have to be done at a larger scale to accomodate all the image layering and scaling issues until it could finally be flattened as an image and then shrunk so it can be posted - as this cardback I used as an example obviously was.

Your comment seems to imply that the vintage cardbacks were created in Photoshop, but Photoshop wasn't released until 1990, so these cardbacks weren't created in a computer, they were pieced together by hand. Those figures were all placed on a display base and photographed all at once. Which is what I would recommend for this project, since it is the fastest method and would achieve the best results, with every figure being photographed at the exact same angle and under identical lighting.

DarthQuack
06-25-2010, 07:04 PM
Or if someone has some nice yellow felt lying around and good lighting and risers. :)

Bel-Cam Jos
06-25-2010, 11:31 PM
I have a Photoshop project for only the best, most enterprising person (with time on their hands) to tackle.

I designed the look for a "Kenner-style" cardback showing all the modern figures arranged like an '80's cardback (see picture of one below - but I'd recommend blue for the new cardback, similar to the way ESB cardbacks were done). Someone could edit the pictures of the modern figures in and make a great poster!

I changed the order of the figures via a new strategy for displaying them.

Left-to-right in rows approximating ANH, ESB, and ROTJ, the columns go:

Luke, Han, Leia, Droids, Jedi, Imperials, Sith - with variation rows such as:

Luke, Han, Leia, Droids, Cantina

Luke, Han, Leia, Cloud City, Bounty Hunters, Imperials

Luke, Han, Leia, Rebel Alliance, Ewoks, Imperials

Luke, Han, Leia, Jabba the Hutt's gangsters


I count 102 original vintage MOVIE figures, noting that the vintage cardbacks would remove older versions of C-3PO and R2D2, not show both Snaggletoothes, the Max Rebo Band Members, or count Jabba the Hutt and Salacious Crumb even though they were characters and not creatures.

Luke-Han-Leia-Chewie-R2D2-C3PO-Obi-Wan-Death Squad Cmdr-Stormtrooper-Vader

Luke Xwing-Tusken Raider-Jawa-Blue Snag-Red Snag-R5D4-Gonk-Walrusman-Momaw-Greedo

Luke Bespin-Han Hoth-Leia Bespin-Lando-Bespin Security-FX7-Yoda-RA7-Snowtrooper-IG88

Hoth Rebel-Hoth Reb Cmdr-Lobot-Ugnaught-C3PO RL-21B-Dengar-Bossk-Imp Crdr-Boba Fett

Luke Hoth-Han Bespin-Leia Hoth-Black Besp Gd-Cloud Cr Plt-R2D2 Sens-Zuckuss-4LOM-ATAT Cm-ATAT Dr

Luke Jedi-Leia Boussh-Lando Skf-Ad Ackbar-Endor Reb-G Madine-Chirpa-Logray-Royl Gd-TIE Plt

Han Endor-Bwing Pilot-Nien Numb-Prune Face-Teebo-Wicket-Bib F-Imp Dig-Emperor-Biker Scout

Luke Troopr-Han Carb-Leia Endor-Lando G-R2 LSaber-Lumat-Gamorr-ATST-Anakin-DS Gunner

Luke Endor-Awing Plt-Paploo-Warok-Romba-Klaatu Skf-Nikto-Klaatu-Amanaman-Barada

Sy Snoot-Droopy-Max-Rancor Kpr-8D8-EV9D9-ReeYees-YakFace-Tessek-Weequay

Jabba the Hutt, Salacious Crumb

In BOLD are figures that have not been re-made (the right characters because yes I know there are 2 Imperial Dignitaries and tons of Hoth Rebel Soldiers, etc). Like I said - I'd save space for them so you can add them to your image in another year or so.

Anyway, who wants to make this? Steve should post it on the mainpage when it's done for sure! :thumbsup:


(97 of 102 have now been made).Hasn't there been a Hoth Rebel Soldier made (if so, I know I don't like it as much as the vintage one), maybe in a Deluxe line? And I think the Saga line had the Imperial Dignitary. I now you listed them above. Or is it just the mustaches (like the other Bespin Security)?

Mr. JabbaJohnL
06-25-2010, 11:48 PM
Hasn't there been a Hoth Rebel Soldier made (if so, I know I don't like it as much as the vintage one), maybe in a Deluxe line? And I think the Saga line had the Imperial Dignitary. I now you listed them above. Or is it just the mustaches (like the other Bespin Security)?
The Imperial Dignitary was Sim Aloo; the ones in the modern line were Kren Blista-Vanee and Janus Greejatus. The Rebel Soldier (Hoth Battle Gear) - which is actually more like a Rebel officer or something - comes closest to a modern version with the kitbash from the 2002 accessory set that combined Hoth Luke's body with a Hoth Rebel Trooper's head. It's far from great, though.

I think, for the Bespin guard, people would like a light-skinned one with a mustache. The old one looks Asian to me, but everyone refers to it as white. That said, we've gotten both white and "Asian" versions in the modern line - the former was with the carbon freezing chamber playset, and the latter was in the POTJ basic line, though neither had any facial hair.

Lumat is a strange case. The Ewok known as "Lumat" in the vintage line no longer has a canon name, and the name "Lumat" belongs to a white-and-black striped Ewok who looks similar to Graak. To further confuse matters, the 2007 Graak figure looks like it was originally sculpted to be an update to the vintage Lumat, and then perhaps later repainted to look quite different. I think I'll propose a Q&A question about this now . . .

The site JediDefender.com is doing a feature where they go through all the vintage figures and compare them to the modern versions; they're currently up to FX-7, so they've still got a ways to go, but it's interesting.

Tycho
06-26-2010, 12:37 AM
I think I need to check out JediDefender's site then. Thanks for the info.

BigBarada: I totally agree with you on it being easier to just set up the whole bunch of the figures. I just don't have access to all of mine to easily do it myself. (I technically DO have access if I drive to storage, but it could be so much easier for someone else who has all the figures in front of them right now.)

JabbaJohn got Bel-Cam Jos' question exactly right. And no, I wouldn't count the kit-bash Hoth Rebel Officer from the Saga accessory pack set as a replacement for the original Hoth Rebel Soldier. The 2003 one even had facial hair on top of that, and the 1980 figure never did. (Hoth Rebel Commander - 1981 - had a mustache and beard maybe - but so has most modern Hoth Rebels in the trench uniforms). The 1980 Bespin Guard had a mustache but no modern Bespin Guard does.

Anyway, we're down to only 5 missing but "Klaatu" (correctly named Wooof) is already on his way but no one has any clear pics of him until after Comic Con.

I'm looking for a carded Lumat - then I'll decide whether Graak and Lumat were misnamed or what.

BigB: you cannot disregard Blue Snaggletoothe. He was Sears-Roebuck's first representative in a Galaxy Far, Far Away ;) But actually the cardbacks did not show both the Threepios and all 3 of the R2D2's at the same time and we all regard Sensor Scope as different from Lightsaber Launch and from the Original 1978,

bigbarada
06-29-2010, 08:45 PM
BigB: you cannot disregard Blue Snaggletoothe. He was Sears-Roebuck's first representative in a Galaxy Far, Far Away ;) But actually the cardbacks did not show both the Threepios and all 3 of the R2D2's at the same time and we all regard Sensor Scope as different from Lightsaber Launch and from the Original 1978,

Blue Snaggletooth was a mistake not a separate figure. I had never even heard of him until the 1990s, so personally I have trouble considering him as separate from the regular Snaggletooth.

Here's the breakdown of my 96 vintage, carded figures count, based off of the POTF 92-back card:

Figures pictured on the back of the card = 92
Yak Face: +1 = 93
1978 See-Threepio: +1 = 94
1978 Artoo-Detoo: +1 = 95
Artoo-Detoo Sensorscope: +1 = 96

Thus, there were 96 vintage Kenner figures that were available individually carded. Not including mistakes, variations, vinyl-capes, double-telescoping lightsabers, etc.

If you are going to include the Rebo Band, Jabba, Salacious Crumb and Blue Snags, then you should include the three-legged Artoo-Detoo from the Droid Factory as well.

Tycho
06-30-2010, 04:18 AM
If you are going to include the Rebo Band, Jabba, Salacious Crumb and Blue Snags, then you should include the three-legged Artoo-Detoo from the Droid Factory as well.

You're probably right. I had the Droid Factory Playset toy when I was a kid, too - but I didn't appreciate that as much as a kid as I do now as an adult. However, I kept it complete and mint-but-loose. I played with it a little. Still I think that Legacy's B-A-D pieces are so much better and a modern droid factory could be awesome if more parts were included that were actually used to comprise on-screen droids just as R1-G4 and WED-151, amongst others. Plus they could give us "EU parts," but make them even better and more plentiful then what Kenner did in the past. (This should really be a separate discussion, but we can have it here I suppose).

Anyway, another R2 didn't add as much to the vintage collection as Blue Snaggletoothe because while maybe a mistake, you could totally play with Blu as a separate character (R2 always looked like R2). Max Rebo et. all WERE other characters even though they weren't carded. They were action figures for certain. Only the Ewok and Droids figures belonged separated because they were done in an animated style.

My "character argument" definitely holds for Jabba and Salacious.


Here's the breakdown of my 96 vintage, carded figures count, based off of the POTF 92-back card:

Figures pictured on the back of the card = 92
Yak Face: +1 = 93
1978 See-Threepio: +1 = 94
1978 Artoo-Detoo: +1 = 95
Artoo-Detoo Sensorscope: +1 = 96

Thus, there were 96 vintage Kenner figures that were available individually carded.

Perfect list. Adding Jabba, Salacious, Max, Droopy, Sy, and Blue you get my 102.


Not including mistakes, variations, vinyl-capes, double-telescoping lightsabers, etc.

Correct. Except that Blue could be another character and not a mistake (even though by Kenner's outlook he was). But Blue could be just who he was and be as different as Luke Bespin is from Luke Jedi and still be counted - because the two Snags are far different from smiling and non-smiling Lando or the who telescoping saber bits.

But anyway, it is up to a person making this "cardback / or poster" what is included. My initial post was just to express my desire to see it - even make it - and what I'd put on it if it were up to me.

DarkArtist
07-09-2010, 08:33 AM
i'm thinking about setting up a huge display of all the figures from both the vintage Kenner Wave up to the recent Hasbro Vintage wave just not sure how i want to do it... thinking of setting them up by either movie appearence and or character (ie all the Luke's together etc) or by how they came out in waves.....

I have a large drafting table to set them up on but not sure at the moment how I'm going to attempt it. (plus all the weapons / accessories are seperate from the figures). As soon as I figure it out and set it up I'll snap some pics and post them. hopefully I can figure it all out and make it work.