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Snowtrooper
08-10-2011, 07:11 PM
My brother found one for me at Target and I got around to putting it together last night. While its not as exciting as the AT-AT or BMF, I think its a good vehicle that will appeal to collectors or kids. Its has a very solid feeling to it. I kinda thought that the detaching cockpit would be rather loose, but thats not a problem at all. The wings attach very solidly to the body(a little too well). I couldn't figure out how to move the wings up and down at first. I thought it was similiar to the imperial shuttle, so I was looking for the button. Well, there isn't one for that. You pull them up and down by hand. They basically lock(very well) into the landing, playset, and flight modes.

The playset feature I think kids will enjoy alot. I prefer to have it set up in just the shuttle mode and load it down with troops and equipment. I think it works well in both modes.

There are plenty of phrases and sound effects to make any kid happy. The only lights it has are inside the cargo bay. I kinda wished the engines would have lit up.

An assembly note: I had a heck of a time getting the wings to snap into place. It takes a fair amount of force and you're pushing it down at an awkward angle. I found that the best thing to do is loosen the screws on the wing where it attaches to the main body, push it on, and tighten the screws back up. Those puppies should never fall off.

At $80, its a decent value. The CW Y-Wing was $70 a few years back and you weren't getting the electronics and all the other features this thing has.

Mad Slanted Powers
08-11-2011, 02:38 AM
I saw this at Target last week and went ahead and got one. It wasn't something that I figured I would get, but it looked like it had a lot of cool features, and it has seen a fair amount of use in the series. So, even though I've not got much from the Clone Wars other than basic figures (and finding new ones of those hasn't been happening), I went ahead and bought it. No room to display it, though, so for now it will remain in the box.

mtriv73
08-15-2011, 12:34 PM
TRU.com is having a one day 20% off sale. I just got this for 63.99 and free shipping (thanks to also buying a booster seat.) I'm sure Target will probably have it for 49.99 before too long, but what the heck, might as well get it now from all the good things I've heard about it. The worst case scenario is I hate it (like I've hated the jedi speeder and the new republic artillery cannon) and it will go straight to my oldest son (who turns 4 today :I'm feeling old: )

JediTricks
08-15-2011, 01:50 PM
Good thinking on the 20% off. I don't have the scratch or I'd probably also pull the trigger on that.


You hate the Jedi Turbo Speeder? How come?

mtriv73
08-15-2011, 03:08 PM
Good thinking on the 20% off. I don't have the scratch or I'd probably also pull the trigger on that.


You hate the Jedi Turbo Speeder? How come?

To me, it's just way too non-detailed, stylistically (sp?) exagerated, and cartoony to fit in with the rest of the Star Wars toys I have. It just looks like it doesn't belong. I guess you can tell I'm not a fan of the Clone Wars figures either.

JediTricks
08-15-2011, 03:25 PM
I see. That's how I feel about most of the prequels too. ;) To me, the Jedi Turbo Speeder has the Coruscant aesthetic so I can allow it under that guise. Plus, it looks way better with the sides slid out. But I do understand where you're coming from.

Tycho
09-23-2011, 01:33 AM
With regards to the Jedi Turbospeeder: they should have made the air speeders that Anakin and Obi-Wan use in ROTS. They could have fired some hidden missiles, but also realistically featured that same remote control mechanism that lifts the A-wing's cockpit canopy to place a figure inside. 2 movie repaints - a good deal. That being said, I like the Turbospeeder, but as far as CW vehicles, would not have given it priority when there are similar movie vehicles.

In the $20-something vehicle category:

Hondo's flying saucer fighter Rapier-One

Hondo's pirate assault tank

(possibly) the Separatist squid troop tansport (Ventress uses this and they recently deployed aqua droids from it - an undersized toy could still deploy 4 aqua droids

the angel fish ship - with seating for 3 - Lego makes this

I haven't opened my attack shuttle yet. The Twilight needs to be made for that large vehicle category. "My uncle said my father was a navigator on a spice freighter."

JediTricks
12-05-2011, 04:27 PM
Amazon has the Republic Attack Shuttle right now for $34.99, and anything on Amazon over $25 gets free super-saver shipping. (I have Amazon Prime so mine will be here in 2 days.) Hopefully this lasts long enough for anybody who wants it to get one, I texted a few folks about it first though. www.amazon.com/Star-Deluxe-Republic-Attack-Shuttle/dp/B004SGVFBU

Tycho
12-05-2011, 11:24 PM
Yes, and thank you JT.

jpins
12-08-2011, 02:45 PM
Thanks for the heads up on the shuttle at Amazon. I just ordered one and the price is now $29.99.

JediTricks
12-08-2011, 11:04 PM
That's an amazing price! I already received mine yesterday, but get this, apparently today at 1pm it was on Lightning Deal for $22! That's insane for the amount of product you get! $30 is definitely nothing to sneeze at, but $22 is lower than a Class-2-fleet vehicle.

So, a few notes about the Republic Attack Shuttle (RAS for short):
- The nose door is attached wrong, the holes should be facing out, it's easily remedied but looks like a misunderstanding going back to the original photography and carrying through the instructions;
- Speaking of the instructions, they mention but do a poor job highlighting that the hinged guns flanking the cockpit which end up on the top of the tower, those retract to be more accurate;
- The landing legs are fairly close to "permanent" once installed, if you wish to remove (and I do), it'd be wise to round the friction stops down before installing;
- The wings are pretty tough to install, the instructions make a point of this, and it's quite necessary, so the key is to find a leverage point and angle which will work with it, then be quite deliberate (or, possibly just unscrew the wing a little, it looks like that may be going on);
- The pilot control panel is hinged, you can flip it up all the way 90 degrees to apply the inner sticker;
- There's a light gray DC-15A rifle attached to the inside of the port wing's interior, it's very easy to miss at first glance on the off-white wall;
- The sounds change from mode to mode, it's easy to miss but pretty neat.

I guess I'll give a few thoughts on it...

From a collector perspective:
The RAS is a pretty big ship, technically it's not surprising why it's $80, yet just like the Imperial Shuttle before it, there's not a lot of "body" to the footprint, leaving it feeling less than all it can be. The scale is way off, like 1:2 or even 1:3 maybe, but aside from the canopy, there's nothing terribly out of proportion to the overall design. This is not a troop transport type of vehicle, in original configuration it holds 2 in the cockpit and probably another 5 or 6 in the body, although you could conceivably double that, removing the port pop-up blaster gives you comfortable seating on a bench for 3, and the rest is standing-room-only so you can just put more figures next to each other. Oddly, there's no way to get in or out of the main body in original configuration, the entertainment has them going through the hatch in the nose but here that merely opens to access to the front pilot seat.

The exterior details are fine, lots of screw holes on the starboard but nothing I'd consider deal-breaking, and the transformation is less than obvious, with only a few little hinges in the wings and a few hexagonal holes for the movable pop-up guns. The landing legs are non-removable/retractable, they're mostly hidden by the wings when deployed, but I'd still like it if they weren't there for flight. The wings snap to flat and then past flat to flight configuration quite nicely, although the starboard gun door often will liberate itself when you do that, but those doors do indeed close which was a big worry for me originally. The wings raise to a slightly-outside-vertical position like it's signalling a touchdown, I thought this was wrong and they should be inside-vertical, but I've found enough evidence to support Hasbro's design being from the entertainment, so it's all good, and the wings stay vertical quite well, no drooping here (the hinges are independent of each other, so no mis-geared angle problems like the old Imp Shuttle). The main features if you leave the vehicle as-is are the movable wings, opening cockpit and front hatch, and the blister cannons flanking the cockpit rotate around with a missile launcher on each - unfortunately, the launcher acts as the second cannon in the pair despite being way too large, and removes the ability to swing out the way they do in the entertainment, so they only rotate on the X-axis.

The paint is ok, there's enough of what's supposed to be there that it doesn't feel like a whiff, but the lack of weathering is still a big problem in the Clone Wars line with the use of wide expanses of white in the designs. Here, the off-white plastic isn't the ugly problem it was on the V-19 Torrent, but it's still white enough that a lot of sculpted detail gets lost at first glance. There's something about CW vehicles that make them seem less authentic to the SW universe, and unfortunately the RAS is among the suffering of that issue, but it's cool in its own rite, and there are some nice SW touches like the engine nozzles. The ship sports about 20 stickers, going from pretty small to medium. The interior stickers may require a pair of tweezers and some patience, but I don't think there's a single NECESSARY sticker here, all of them are nice to have (except the one in the roof of the canopy, that one actually covers up some nice sculpted detail, I didn't use it) and the ones inside the wings do help bring that area to life, but that's not a collector-focused area anyway, so the collector could get away with only applying the ones in the cockpit and main body.

The interior is accessible in this mode via a hatch built into the top just for flight display, which is a really slick touch since they could have left it with the lift-up tower as the only access, especially with the hatch housing a pull-out missile launcher. Inside the body, the details are VERY Star Warsy, and every wall and bulkhead and even the facade door in the back would feel right at home on a Star Destroyer. It's all dark gunmetal gray plastic, but a lot of the surfaces have sculpted controls or paneling, and the few stickers inside bring it more to life. The interior also sports the only lights, a pair of red LEDs which signal the alert status, it's a nice touch but feels like there could have been another light crammed into the exterior. The interior of the cockpit is white plastic and is an oddity, it's a pair of standing seats in front of each other, you have to bend the figure's legs and knees partway to get them to fit, but they're still standing. Yet it looks alright as it is, it gets away with it, and the interior is chock full of sculpted tech detailing; that said, I did have to spread the figure's arms out to the side to keep him from rattling around in his seat.

The figure is a new-helmet, new-body phase-I Clone Pilot whose paint is essentially Oddball, except with black logos on the shoulders. I don't love the new body for pilots, the lack of mid-torso jointing and the tight hip jointing limits their sitting potential, but at least there's not much sitting required for this cockpit. As I mentioned above, Pilot here comes with a long rifle which is stored in the wing, the rifle is odd in that it's light gray.

As a collector, this thing is a hard pill to swallow at $80, it's a lot like the Imperial Shuttle in weaknesses in that it really can't hold as many figures as its large, unwieldy footprint demands since the wings really take up a lot of budget. And since it's not from the movies, it's also not as easy to find a place for in a pure-collector collection. But it isn't bad, and if you dig the Clone Wars, it's a lot easier to enjoy as a collector because it's in so many episodes, and despite its transformation potential, there aren't any significant visual compromises hampering it.


Now, as a "fun" perspective:
The RAS is big and heavy like an expensive SW toy should be, yet it also feels fairly solid in vehicle mode despite every major element transforming. It's not bad to whoosh for an adult, but I cannot guess whether it'd be possible for a kid, though I doubt it. The vehicle mode is your standard modern SW vehicle, and as mentioned above, it has space for 2 in the cockpit and another handful in the interior. But it definitely will need parental assistance with assembly, I have already seen a number of reviews online from casual consumers decrying the difficult wing assembly (although I do think they're being a bit over-the-top considering they don't want it to be flimsy junk nor do they want to spend another $40 in a larger package that will more likely result in broken parts).

Transformation is quite detailed, there's something going on pretty much everywhere. The back becomes the front of the base, the part that the enemy faces, so first you pull out the pair of white cannons out from the engine. Then, a slider built into the top releases the tower so you can pull it up. The tower uses a heavy, loud ratchet to stand upright or go past upright - there's enough play in that joint that there's never a perfect upright, but either before or past the point it'll stand well and won't look too far off - then a missile launcher hinges out of the now-front on an arm, and can be angled up, down, or straight. Out the top of the tower, the pair of cannons slide out and reveal a hinge and rotation joint on either one. Laying the wings flat is easy, each hinge has a specific stop for it, and it's flush with the vehicle's landing legs, then the face of each wing is pulled up to act as an armor plate behind which to hide plenty of troops, and at the plate end there's a flip-around cannon to aim at the enemy. Panels aside the main body are spring-loaded, pressing each one's corresponding button sends them open, and from inside spring out a large missile launcher on a long arm on either side. The cockpit can be lifted straight up and set aside to reveal the main body's fold-out boarding ramp. The cockpit becomes a scout craft, with fold-down wings and a drop-down thruster engine, and a blaster behind the canopy is hinged to be used here, as well as a hole behind it to sit a figure to act as gunner - the gunner station is simple, but there's actually a little sculpting in there despite not really being able to be seen.

So, what you are left with once the RAS has transformed is actually quite a decent operations base, reminds me a bit of the original GI Joe A Real American Hero HQ Command Center. There's the armored walls with a cut-away to shoot out of, and inside each wing-wall is some sculpted detail, a number of foot-pegs, and a wall rack designed to accommodate 6 rifles. The main body has the 2 spring-up missile launchers, which have control grips and a small platform, and they are designed to fit in any of the 4 larger holes in the body and wing-floor on either side of the vehicle. There's the main body with a wide computer panel in the command center area, and the boarding ramp can also fold up to close the small doorway leading to the command center. Then there's the tower, which has a platform in the middle to control the big missile launcher or to fire out its opening, and another right above at the top that to view the battlefield. And then you have the recon fighter, which is a nifty vehicle with its small wings and underslung engine.

Transforming back to vehicle mode is the same experience in reverse, although a couple elements have to be done in the right order for clearance, but they're obvious when you get there and nothing feels like it's going to break off or be a flimsy problem (the foot platforms on the spring-up guns can be slid out easily, but they slide back in and can be angled to catch again) - the tower even sports a break-away joint if something goes horribly wrong. The cool thing is, once you've transformed everything, the vehicle mode can now sport extra weapons, the pop-up missile launcher on the top, the cannons out the back, the big spring-up missile launchers, and cleverly enough, the cannons in either wing are designed to lay flat if deployed in vehicle mode, so the Republic Attack Shuttle really becomes a true "Attack" vehicle where it hadn't been before. So it's a lot of fun in a single package

... And that's before even mentioning the electronic sounds, of which there are many. There's buttons on the port side with icons for the various sound types they control - clone trooper, flight mode, big battle, and blasters. Moving the port wing to any of its 3 positions creates its own sounds, and changes the sound profile of the other modes, so in flight mode it's about a flying battle, where in base mode it's about foot attacks and such. Each of the springing panels holding back the pop-up missile launchers has its own sounds as well, and lifting up and closing down the tower create their own sounds too. Inside the main body, the twin alarm lights only light up for appropriate sounds and activities, not just blinking all the time like older toys would. There's like 30 different voices taken right from the show, nearly all of which are clone trooper dialog, some being Battle Droids as well. The thing can talk and talk, playing out its own battle scenarios, and it's not always clear what a button press will offer in those situations, but thankfully there's also a nice fat OFF switch on the starboard aft top. There's really almost too many lines, but there is some clever intentions going on to use them as wisely as possible what with the modes controlling which lines are allowed when. 3 AA batteries go into the underside next to the speaker grille.

The play value here is definitely more exciting in its play potential as a vehicle that lands and turns into a battle base and a smaller vehicle. While it's a very nifty item overall and great for someone with a lot of Clone Wars figures to fill up the action with, it still feels like a bit over-the-top in pricing at $80, an MSRP of $65 would have felt like a home run for the casual consumer market. The electronics are extensive, clever in the way it works with various modes, but for my tastes there's too much focus on dialog and drawn out scenarios rather than open play - I would have preferred battle sounds and dialog come more from my choices than from the designers' - and I really would have liked to see flashing cannons or engines or even a landing light on the exterior, the alarm light simply isn't enough on its own, cool though it may be. But there's plenty going on here, and it makes a meal out of an otherwise boring shuttle concept, so in that respect I think this is a strong item.

JediTricks
12-09-2011, 05:37 PM
In my comments, I neglected to mention that the vehicle exterior isn't unpainted off-white plastic, it also sports light gray paint on panels both large and small which breaks up the large expanses of white. IMO, Hasbro learned a great deal from the snore-fest that was the V-19 Torrent and applied that knowledge well here on the RAS.

Tycho
12-09-2011, 06:29 PM
Which begs the question, since they re-released the V-19 Torrent in new CW packaging, why didn't they repaint it for the new issue?

We got every color of Jedi Starfighter. Don't tell me they can't afford to repaint the V-19?

AOTC:

Obi-Wan's Jedi Starfighter

CW:

Obi-Wan's Jedi Starfighter
Ahsoka's Jedi Starfighter
Anakin's Jedi Starfighter
Plo Koon's Jedi Starfighter
Kit Fisto's Jedi Starfighter
Mace Windu's Jedi Starfighter

ROTS:

Obi-Wan's red Jedi Starfighter
Anakin's yellow Jedi Starfighter
Obi-Wan's blue Jedi Starfighter
Anakin's green Jedi Starfighter

(and no doubt, Clone Wars will re-release the above, especially the red and yellow, with ROTS anniversary re-releases being the blue and green ones)

Expanded Universe:

Darth Vader's Jedi Starfighter

Now - please refresh my memory: SaeSee Tiin and Adi Gallia are supposed to be the best Jedi pilots other than Anakin. Do they have Jedi Starfighters? Which style? SaeSee's was seen in both kinds with green and yellow effects on them.

Did Mace Windu get a CW purple type-2 (ROTS style) Jedi Starfighter?

Does Aayla Secura have a Jedi Starfighter? What type?

With all these repaints, including Cad Bane's Xanadu Blood (he actually names a common IG Droid Starfighter?), the V-wing Interceptor (Imperial colors), and even the classic Y-wing (Red Squadron decales), and A-wing (Green Squadron), not to mention the B-wing (Dagger Squadron) and remolding the TIEs in completely different coloring, adding carbon-scoring to the V-19 would be easy.