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Mr. JabbaJohnL
09-23-2011, 08:43 PM
Some sites are reporting that Target and Walmart are both being visited by Hasbro reps so they can get rid of old figures from wave 1 and 2, like 4-LOM, Dengar, the Cloud Car Pilot, and the ROTS Clone Trooper. Has anyone seen any of this? A few months back, I though one of my Targets had gotten rid of some of the figures, but it sort of seems that they might have sent them to another store, or something. At any rate, hopefully this should finally get figures flowing better.

Snowtrooper
09-23-2011, 09:40 PM
Something needs to be done. All the stores I make runs to have had the same figures for at least a month, maybe longer. I normally purchase alot of figues online, but for most of this year, I've almost entirely relied on the internet to get my figures since little to nothing seems to be showing up at stores. I hope this report is true and that it doesn't apply to just waves 1 and 2.

Bel-Cam Jos
09-23-2011, 10:10 PM
I still see 4LOM, Dengar, and Cloud Car, but it's more of Clone Trooper, Rebel Commando, Obi-Wan, or Sandtrooper now.

JediTricks
09-23-2011, 11:14 PM
I noticed that at Target today, they were replaced by a mountain of Wooof and Sandtrooper and Anakin ROTS and Rebel Commandos. It seems the pegwarmers brought reinforcements.

Blue2th
09-24-2011, 04:45 AM
Hopefully they'll make it down to one particular Walmart here that still has 18 or so ROTS Clones. Heck even the Sandtroopers, Anakins and Obi-Wans thinned out a little but not the Clones.

It's good they're possibly doing something, and started listening to us? I pretty much gave up looking for anything new there for a while and missed whole waves of TVC figures I never did see because of this. It really was a downer for collecting. They killed my motivation to look. We'll see.

JediTricks
09-24-2011, 08:55 PM
I don't think they listened to us on this, I think they saw their sales going in the toilet and retailers complaining about a mountain of unmoving product (which they themselves partly caused by overordering).

LTBasker
09-26-2011, 02:19 AM
I'm hoping the Cloud Car Pilot glut is eventually solved by shrinkwrapping a pair of'em to Cloud Cars at $35 or something similar to that. The Cloud Car has been surprisingly rare around here...

Actually they should do that with more, I'm sure it'd be big for Christmas. Like...
2x Cloud Car Pilots w/ Cloud Car
2x ROTS Clones w/ Swamp Speeder
1x Dengar and 1x 4-Lom w/ Xanadu Blood
2x AOTC Clones w/ Republic Fighter Tank
1x Wedge and 1x Dak w/ Snowspeeder >_>

mtriv73
09-26-2011, 12:34 PM
I don't think they listened to us on this, I think they saw their sales going in the toilet and retailers complaining about a mountain of unmoving product (which they themselves partly caused by overordering).

With the ordering at most brick and mortar stores being automated and tied to inventory, I'm not sure you can blame it on over ordering. Maybe (well definitely) the distribution centers seemed to get stuck with a whole lot of certain waves and almost none of others. I still think the problem is the really awful assortments. If Hasbro had learned anything from the Yarna debacle, figures like Wooof wouldn't ever appear in a refresh wave (assuming good saturation of the first wave) and even potential army builders like the Clones and sandtroopers shouldn't be in more than a couple refresh waves (especially if something almost identical is currently being sold for less money in the legends line.) To add more insult to the injury, most of the first clones, sandtroopers, and even the newer stormtroopers have obviously yellowing plastic in the bubble and often atrocious paint jobs causing them to back up even more on the pegs. Also, if I had a say in case distribution (which I obviously don't) new figures would be shipped at 2 per case in the initial waves. I still don't think this would have gotten out enough Gamorreans, Wedges, Fordos, and possible rebel fleet troopers to sate demand, but it would be a lot closer and we wouldn't have as many unwanted pegwarmers keeping new stuff off the shelves.

bigbarada
09-26-2011, 01:59 PM
Wooof and the Cloud Car Pilot haven't really been a problem in my area at all. We haven't even had that big of a problem with 4-LOM and Dengar. Even the Sandtroopers are beginning to thin out. Aside from the ROTS Clone, Rebel Commando, and R2-D2, it seems that AOTC Obi-Wan is the only other figure piling up at an alarming rate.

Snowtrooper
09-26-2011, 02:13 PM
Yavin ceremony Han is probably the worst around here, especially at one WM in particular. Waves 1 and 2 sold through fairly easily around here. Some of the later waves are the real troublemakers.

JediTricks
09-26-2011, 05:01 PM
With the ordering at most brick and mortar stores being automated and tied to inventory, I'm not sure you can blame it on over ordering. Maybe (well definitely) the distribution centers seemed to get stuck with a whole lot of certain waves and almost none of others. I still think the problem is the really awful assortments. If Hasbro had learned anything from the Yarna debacle, figures like Wooof wouldn't ever appear in a refresh wave (assuming good saturation of the first wave) and even potential army builders like the Clones and sandtroopers shouldn't be in more than a couple refresh waves (especially if something almost identical is currently being sold for less money in the legends line.) To add more insult to the injury, most of the first clones, sandtroopers, and even the newer stormtroopers have obviously yellowing plastic in the bubble and often atrocious paint jobs causing them to back up even more on the pegs. Also, if I had a say in case distribution (which I obviously don't) new figures would be shipped at 2 per case in the initial waves. I still don't think this would have gotten out enough Gamorreans, Wedges, Fordos, and possible rebel fleet troopers to sate demand, but it would be a lot closer and we wouldn't have as many unwanted pegwarmers keeping new stuff off the shelves.Inventory re-ordering is automated, but initial orders are not. Ordering on the first 3 waves of any line, like TVC, is not automated, but done by buyers who have to make assumptions about what their customers will want. They have to frontload orders or risk running out of product early, and they get so jazzed about lines like Star Wars that they order WAY too much of wave 1 cases.

You are right though that Hasbro is to blame for being so woefully short-sighted about their case assortments. The idea that SOME collectors might want 4-LOM and Dengar on vintage-style cardbacks doesn't mean those shouldn't be quickly swapped out while wave 1 is still in full force. But there's a flawed mentality with Hasbro SW on that sort of thing, they try to offer older product hoping that kids and certain collectors will be attracted to it, but that sets the budget for the wave lower so it seems safer to just stick with that through the whole wave rather than thin it out and make it a rarity. It's the type of thinking that might work for a line that's going to be big with kids and casual consumers, but considering they themselves chose to make TVC a collector-focused line which meant lower sales and thus higher prices to compensate, playing those "kids will love it" games is totally backwards.

Mr. JabbaJohnL
11-22-2011, 05:33 PM
While most stores in my area have cleared out these old figures, I did see a Dengar and some ROTS Clone Troopers with the original Boba Fett stickers at a Walmart today.

Figures seem to be flowing a lot better now, it seems that the bottleneck is finally being resolved; unfortunately, it's the bottleneck from almost a year ago, as wave 4 and 5 are hitting almost everywhere I go now. I've seen remnants from the wave 8 and 9 cases at every Target I've visited lately, but I've also seen a ton of R5-D4, and several of Mace. Endor Capture Luke, Death Star Escape Luke, and Yavin Ceremony Han are taking over the pegs at several places, especially the Lukes, since they're in the wave 8 and 9 cases as well. I've seen that other people are reporting this as well. I don't want the yellow-helmet Utapau clones to just be the replacements for the yellow-helmet white clones. The yellow-helmet, bug-eyed, no-stomach-paint stormtroopers are also sitting alongside their superior replacements from the current cases. Hopefully the product moves, and soon. If nothing else, I hope the January 30 launch resets the line.

bigbarada
11-22-2011, 07:22 PM
Nothing is moving here and we still haven't gotten in a single case of new TVC figures at my Walmart since June or July. It's not that we're bottlenecked either. There is easily enough empty space on the pegs for 1-2 cases of figures. There just aren't any figures coming in.