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JediTricks
03-21-2013, 03:27 PM
http://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/The_Clone_Wars_Team_Reportedly_Being_Disbanded_150 781.asp

I don't know how true this is, but that news really bothers me if there's any truth to it at all (and personally I believe it's likely accurate), it smacks of Disney making the cheap, corporate choices. Their TV series either are mediocre quality or are mistreated by the network and quickly abandoned. But, assuming this is true, it's pretty much the exact opposite thing from what Lucas wanted for SW, that quality should come first and foremost, it shouldn't get thrown to the same division that nearly closed the entire company a decade ago with poor quality vomiting out of every pore.

It also certainly means no Comic-Con panel for Clone Wars, no Dave Filoni dais talk and slideshow/video, since there's no product to pimp.

This is another bad turn of events, little things, that suggest this Disney purchase of Lucasfilm is going to be bad for SW in the long run, and I hope that's not the case.

Mr. JabbaJohnL
03-21-2013, 07:10 PM
Hmm, this is disappointing. I can understand them wanting to focus on Episode VII, but why not keep Lucasfilm Animation (and, from what it sounds like, Lucasarts) in business as well? It's not the same division or employees, so where's the harm in doing so? Do they seriously think we can't handle different formats of SW entertainment at once? Disney certainly has the cash. Not that Detours looked like it was doing anything for the art of animation, but The Clone Wars was continually looking better and better as the team was getting more skilled at making it. I really wonder how George feels about all of this - well, I know he wanted The Clone Wars to continue, since he mapped out the end with Filoni as the sale was taking place, but even if that one show couldn't continue it's a shame the entire company has to go as well.

Dave Filoni is apparently still scheduled for Celebration Europe II, though his appearance on this week's Rebel Force Radio was just cancelled by Lucasfilm PR so who knows if he'll even show up at CEII. Hopefully soon we'll get details on how much "bonus content" there really is, since it sounds like there ain't much. I really wonder what Dave's place at the company will be going forward - I certainly hope he has one, preferably running whatever TV show comes next.

JediTricks
03-21-2013, 08:36 PM
Hmm, this is disappointing. I can understand them wanting to focus on Episode VII, but why not keep Lucasfilm Animation (and, from what it sounds like, Lucasarts) in business as well? It's not the same division or employees, so where's the harm in doing so? Do they seriously think we can't handle different formats of SW entertainment at once? Disney certainly has the cash. Not that Detours looked like it was doing anything for the art of animation, but The Clone Wars was continually looking better and better as the team was getting more skilled at making it. I really wonder how George feels about all of this - well, I know he wanted The Clone Wars to continue, since he mapped out the end with Filoni as the sale was taking place, but even if that one show couldn't continue it's a shame the entire company has to go as well.

Dave Filoni is apparently still scheduled for Celebration Europe II, though his appearance on this week's Rebel Force Radio was just cancelled by Lucasfilm PR so who knows if he'll even show up at CEII. Hopefully soon we'll get details on how much "bonus content" there really is, since it sounds like there ain't much. I really wonder what Dave's place at the company will be going forward - I certainly hope he has one, preferably running whatever TV show comes next.I think Disney is trying to spend as little as possible, having outside animation houses means outside management they probably don't want to pay. Then again, they'd be fools to close down ILM, so perhaps it's about the perception of value and return, ILM is like Pixar while Lucasfilm Animation in Korea doesn't enjoy such cachet because it's neither a big name brand nor a big earner.

I didn't know Lucasfilm PR canned his appearance. I have a very bad feeling about this.

El Chuxter
03-21-2013, 08:39 PM
Y'all know I'm no fan of Clone Wars, but, really, this sucks. Disney's TV team isn't even their B-team, it's like their V-team, or maybe even their W-team.

Bel-Cam Jos
03-21-2013, 09:38 PM
Maybe he and some of the EU writers can create a Pixar-type offshoot company. And I suspect that the "I had a bad feeling about this" line will be trademarked by Disney, and will start every opening crawl of the SW films. :(

Mr. JabbaJohnL
03-22-2013, 01:36 AM
I didn't know Lucasfilm PR canned his appearance. I have a very bad feeling about this.
They have since rescheduled it for the first week of April, thankfully. Hopefully by then we'll be able to get some answers.

Lord Malakite
03-22-2013, 01:14 PM
I think Disney is trying to spend as little as possible, having outside animation houses means outside management they probably don't want to pay.
Whats happening now with the Clone Wars team is exactly how it began with Power Rangers. Laying off almost everyone from the old regime when given the opportunity to do so (writers, costuming, props and special effects, pyrotechnics, CGI animation team, sound department etc.), then bringing everything in house. I think the only thing they kept were the japanese wirework/stunt men team because it was the only thing they couldn't replace.


Then again, they'd be fools to close down ILM, so perhaps it's about the perception of value and return, ILM is like Pixar while Lucasfilm Animation in Korea doesn't enjoy such cachet because it's neither a big name brand nor a big earner.
Clouded in the shroud of the darkside the future is for ILM. They could keep it as is. Then again, I could just as easily see them gutting it and just using the ILM name for their in house department.

JediTricks
03-22-2013, 04:39 PM
Y'all know I'm no fan of Clone Wars, but, really, this sucks. Disney's TV team isn't even their B-team, it's like their V-team, or maybe even their W-team.I was thinking more N-team, but yeah, it's lightyears away from acceptable news.


Maybe he and some of the EU writers can create a Pixar-type offshoot company. And I suspect that the "I had a bad feeling about this" line will be trademarked by Disney, and will start every opening crawl of the SW films. :(If Filoni created his own house, I don't think it'd work out too well, right now that kind of cartoon is unpopular and not getting any support from any network, and it'd be rough going for a while without a big hit.


They have since rescheduled it for the first week of April, thankfully. Hopefully by then we'll be able to get some answers.At least that's something, please keep us updated on anything that comes from that appearance.


Whats happening now with the Clone Wars team is exactly how it began with Power Rangers. Laying off almost everyone from the old regime when given the opportunity to do so (writers, costuming, props and special effects, pyrotechnics, CGI animation team, sound department etc.), then bringing everything in house. I think the only thing they kept were the japanese wirework/stunt men team because it was the only thing they couldn't replace.


Clouded in the shroud of the darkside the future is for ILM. They could keep it as is. Then again, I could just as easily see them gutting it and just using the ILM name for their in house department.Not good at all, hopefully it doesn't get as bad as that, but it very well could.

Mr. JabbaJohnL
03-23-2013, 08:27 PM
TheForce.net reports (http://www.theforce.net/latestnews/story/Report_TCW_Bonus_Content_To_Be_Two_Story_Arcs_1508 31.asp) that the remaining team is only completing work on two story arcs, and that another arc that included Boba Fett and dealt with the fates of Cad Bane and Aurra Sing will not be finished despite being very close to completion. Hopefully the Clovis arc doesn't count as one of the two.

I hate to be that guy, but this deal keeps getting worse all the time.

JediTricks
03-24-2013, 02:35 PM
Yeesh, this really is becoming Lord Vader's incursion into Cloud City.

Mr. JabbaJohnL
03-26-2013, 03:20 AM
Joel Aron posted a link to a gallery (http://www.flickr.com//photos/joelaron/sets/72157633081982803/show/) of shots he's taking of the Lucasfilm Animation team around the time of their exit, which happened on Friday. There are many, and they are haunting, and they are sad - particularly those of Dave Filoni. Aron describes it thusly:


Over the last few days of the week, I setup a single light in my office and turned two black design boards around for a backdrop. My plan was to capture everyone I could in the building from every team. Nearly all of them were in their final hours of working for Lucasfilm. I wanted to remember all of them, and give them all something that has us all in the same place forever.

How thoroughly depressing.

JediTricks
03-27-2013, 03:23 PM
Wow, that is a serious bummer there. And Filoni's eyes have sadness in them.

Bel-Cam Jos
03-27-2013, 09:05 PM
I just stopped looking after several pics. And brought to you by... the happiest place on earth? :(

Bel-Cam Jos
04-04-2013, 12:55 AM
LucasArts has been Bambi's-mom-ized. :cry:

Mr. JabbaJohnL
04-04-2013, 12:47 PM
At least that's something, please keep us updated on anything that comes from that appearance.
According to a recent Facebook post, Dave will appear on tomorrow's RebelForce Radio (barring another cancellation, but it should be fine now). I don't know if I'll be able to listen tomorrow or Saturday but I'll post any and all relevant details when I do.

Mr. JabbaJohnL
04-05-2013, 03:22 AM
IGN (http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/04/05/the-clone-wars-dave-filoni-developing-the-next-star-wars-animated-series) reports that the RebelForce Radio interview states that Dave is staying with Lucasfilm Animation, thankfully. He said:


"At this point, I am involved in some early production discussions and exploration of what we’ll be doing with Star Wars animation in the future, which is really exciting for me and I have some friendly faces around me, of course, that are helping me on the project. So it’s a transition time, as I’ve said before, and I think it will lead to an exciting time and hopefully I’ll see things grow again."
I hope this means some of the Clone Wars team is with him as well - Joel Aron, Kilian Plunkett, maybe writers like Christian Taylor or Charles Murray. I mean, sheesh, it'd be nice to know that they didn't fire EVERYONE at the company.

JediTricks
04-05-2013, 03:09 PM
That's good to hear, albeit confusing. Disney really needs to issue a clear press release on this matter, is Lucas Animation closing or not? Is Star Wars tv going to Disney TV animation studio or not? My guess is that Disney is hiring Filoni into Disney TV animation, and are closing the Lucas Animation studio and its cutting its Korean arm adrift.

Tycho
04-06-2013, 03:28 AM
And that is why there are Koreans trying to attack the United States.

Meanwhile I would love animation with the classic characters.

They should do post return of the jedi to plug the original characters before the sequel trilogy

Mr. JabbaJohnL
04-06-2013, 01:49 PM
The interview was quite well done, and Dave seems optimistic about the future. I have to toot my own horn here, because there was only time for one listener question, and they picked one of mine and mentioned my name! It's around the 1 hour, 12 minute mark if you want to hear it. :p I asked, if you knew going into it that it would only last five seasons, would you have done anything differently? Dave said no, he always planned on making it until they told him to stop, and he hopes to be able to have a part in telling the remaining stories somehow at some point. He made the point that it would have been hard to have a better ending than the series did, and that they were indeed sort of thinking that these episodes were going to be able to also function as a series finale. He noted that he would rather have people wanting more than wishing it had ended sooner, which is fair.


That's good to hear, albeit confusing. Disney really needs to issue a clear press release on this matter, is Lucas Animation closing or not? Is Star Wars tv going to Disney TV animation studio or not? My guess is that Disney is hiring Filoni into Disney TV animation, and are closing the Lucas Animation studio and its cutting its Korean arm adrift.
They didn't really touch on how Disney's animation team figures into this, but the way Dave describes it was like any other TV show coming to an end - when it's done, the crew is disbanded. The gist that I got was that Lucasfilm Animation is still an entity, just currently a significantly smaller one (as it was when The Clone Wars was just in the planning stages) that he hopes will grow as the new project goes forward. But there were no specifics on any of this other than to say that he will remain and so will some of the other people at the company, particularly since George put them in place originally and trained them for the last eight years to be able to tell Star Wars stories. He mentioned Joel Aron and Kilian Plunkett by name, but didn't say anything about their future there, though I would assume that they're safe given their call-outs.

He didn't give particulars on when and how the bonus content would be released, or how much or what it would contain, though the Clovis arc will be released (it was originally bumped when things were moved around this season - it would have resulted in too many episodes, from what he said in another interview). The team is "making sure these stories count" and making sure they're well-produced, and while the episodes don't wrap up everything in a bow, they will answer a few big questions satisfyingly, according to him. Order 66 and how the clones' autonomy plays into that will be addressed, as seen in the preview clip (he also confirmed that the two new Jedi there were based on unused Sith witch concept art). He said the information on the bonus content will be released at the right time, when it will have maximum effectiveness. Maybe this means a convention appearance or something? It was unclear, so I hope he does it at Celebration Europe.

They also discussed the last two arcs of the season. One of the most interesting parts was how he addressed the Satine/Bo-Katan relationship, saying he developed a backstory for them that became one of his favorites. He didn't go into too many particulars, but likened it to Game of Thrones. Basically, Bo-Katan didn't agree with Satine's pacifism, but as Satine rose to power she didn't want it to be public knowledge that she had a sister who had joined Death Watch as that would look bad for her politically, so Bo-Katan wasn't in Satine's life for a time, which is why Obi-Wan didn't know of her.

El Chuxter
04-06-2013, 04:42 PM
He didn't go into too many particulars, but likened it to Game of Thrones.
So the Jedi were all constantly having sex with their sisters and b***hing about winter?

JediTricks
04-07-2013, 04:55 PM
The interview was quite well done, and Dave seems optimistic about the future. I have to toot my own horn here, because there was only time for one listener question, and they picked one of mine and mentioned my name! It's around the 1 hour, 12 minute mark if you want to hear it. :p I asked, if you knew going into it that it would only last five seasons, would you have done anything differently? Dave said no, he always planned on making it until they told him to stop, and he hopes to be able to have a part in telling the remaining stories somehow at some point. He made the point that it would have been hard to have a better ending than the series did, and that they were indeed sort of thinking that these episodes were going to be able to also function as a series finale. He noted that he would rather have people wanting more than wishing it had ended sooner, which is fair.That's cool. On the other hand, when you represent SSG at some of the upcoming conventions, please come up with harder-hitting questions than that softball. ;)



They didn't really touch on how Disney's animation team figures into this, but the way Dave describes it was like any other TV show coming to an end - when it's done, the crew is disbanded. The gist that I got was that Lucasfilm Animation is still an entity, just currently a significantly smaller one (as it was when The Clone Wars was just in the planning stages) that he hopes will grow as the new project goes forward. But there were no specifics on any of this other than to say that he will remain and so will some of the other people at the company, particularly since George put them in place originally and trained them for the last eight years to be able to tell Star Wars stories. He mentioned Joel Aron and Kilian Plunkett by name, but didn't say anything about their future there, though I would assume that they're safe given their call-outs.

He didn't give particulars on when and how the bonus content would be released, or how much or what it would contain, though the Clovis arc will be released (it was originally bumped when things were moved around this season - it would have resulted in too many episodes, from what he said in another interview). The team is "making sure these stories count" and making sure they're well-produced, and while the episodes don't wrap up everything in a bow, they will answer a few big questions satisfyingly, according to him. Order 66 and how the clones' autonomy plays into that will be addressed, as seen in the preview clip (he also confirmed that the two new Jedi there were based on unused Sith witch concept art). He said the information on the bonus content will be released at the right time, when it will have maximum effectiveness. Maybe this means a convention appearance or something? It was unclear, so I hope he does it at Celebration Europe.

They also discussed the last two arcs of the season. One of the most interesting parts was how he addressed the Satine/Bo-Katan relationship, saying he developed a backstory for them that became one of his favorites. He didn't go into too many particulars, but likened it to Game of Thrones. Basically, Bo-Katan didn't agree with Satine's pacifism, but as Satine rose to power she didn't want it to be public knowledge that she had a sister who had joined Death Watch as that would look bad for her politically, so Bo-Katan wasn't in Satine's life for a time, which is why Obi-Wan didn't know of her."Bonus content" sounds like DVDs in the season set the more I hear it. Not thrilled about the Clovis arc either.

The Bo-Katan thing really came through for me, that's almost exactly what I thought it'd be when they revealed it. Good job on their part.

Thanks for the wrap-up on this.

Mr. JabbaJohnL
04-10-2013, 04:08 AM
That's cool. On the other hand, when you represent SSG at some of the upcoming conventions, please come up with harder-hitting questions than that softball. ;)

"Bonus content" sounds like DVDs in the season set the more I hear it. Not thrilled about the Clovis arc either.

The Bo-Katan thing really came through for me, that's almost exactly what I thought it'd be when they revealed it. Good job on their part.

Thanks for the wrap-up on this.
Thanks. That was by far my blandest question - here's the full list I posted should you be so inclined to read them.

1. What will happen to all the many assets created for the series? Will Disney/Lucasfilm be able to use them for future projects?

2. What is happening to the Lucasfilm Animation production facilities at Big Rock Ranch and elsewhere?

3. It wasn't that long ago that George showed up at Celebration VI to show support for his animated series, and just seven months later they are no more. How does George feel about the cancellation of the show(s) and the layoffs at Lucasfilm Animation?

4. If we don't get to see the fates of popular characters like Darth Maul, Cad Bane, Asajj Ventress, and Captain Rex in animated form, is there any chance we would see them as comic stories, novels, or even as straight-to-DVD stories produced by Disney's own animation house? If not, will you be able to share what the plans were for the remainder of the series? Could the recent success of Kickstarter in reviving dead series be of any use here?

5. Is there any chance we could at least get the audio that has already been recorded and paid for - perhaps edited as a radio show by Jimmy Mac?

6. If you had known that the show would only make it to five seasons, would you have done anything differently?

7. We finally got to see Coleman Kcaj briefly in "The Wrong Jedi," but what were the plans for the remaining Jedi Council members Stass Allie and Agen Kolar? We know the model for Stass Allie was created, will we be able to see it? What was the plan for killing off Eeth Koth?

8. Did Tarkin's involvement in the prosecution of Ahsoka have an effect on his relationship with Anakin? Or does Anakin remain largely unaware of Tarkin's involvement since he never saw Tarkin's reports to the Council or most of Tarkin's statements in the trial?

9. Will the long-discussed (and presumably long-finished) Clovis arc finally be released among the "bonus content"?

JediTricks
04-10-2013, 01:49 PM
Yeah, they really did pick your most bland question, it's too bad but at least it was asked.

Mr. JabbaJohnL
04-30-2013, 11:34 AM
USA Today (http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/2013/04/30/star-wars-the-clone-wars-animation/2122763/) has an interview with Dave Filoni and an exclusive clip featuring Plo Koon and the Wolfpack searching through a Tatooine sandstorm in a Turbo Tank.

The most intriguing part of the interview is as follows:


One of the arcs stars Jedi Master Plo Koon (voiced by James Arnold Taylor), who finds a lost lightsaber while on a mission on a sandstorm-laden planet with a platoon of clone troopers. It's the beginning of a mystery, and one that will make the Jedi question their role in the Clone Wars and the universe itself, according to Filoni.

"The Jedi have been fighting a war with an army that was commissioned by one of their own, Jedi Master Syfo-Dias," he says. "But who was Syfo-Dias, and what happened to him? The dark lord of the Sith has woven an intricate web to ensnare the Jedi, but it is not full-proof and sometimes a small clue, and a bit of chance, can lead to the unraveling of the best-laid plans."

Hopefully we'll finally get some answers on this subject! There is still no news on when or where the bonus content will be released, but the animation is nearing completion (and Matthew Wood tweeted today that Skywalker Sound is hard at work on these episodes). It's also unclear whether the Plo Koon arc is the same as the previously-previewed "Order 66" arc or not, but it sounds like it could be separate - if so, that's the Clovis arc, the Order 66 arc, the Plo Koon arc, and Tom Kane mentioned that he was told a Yoda arc would be completed as well. So it sounds like there could be a pretty good amount of TCW still coming.

Tycho
04-30-2013, 01:25 PM
Then I want to watch this.

Darth Metalmute
04-30-2013, 10:18 PM
Hopefully we'll finally get some answers on this subject! There is still no news on when or where the bonus content will be released, but the animation is nearing completion (and Matthew Wood tweeted today that Skywalker Sound is hard at work on these episodes). It's also unclear whether the Plo Koon arc is the same as the previously-previewed "Order 66" arc or not, but it sounds like it could be separate - if so, that's the Clovis arc, the Order 66 arc, the Plo Koon arc, and Tom Kane mentioned that he was told a Yoda arc would be completed as well. So it sounds like there could be a pretty good amount of TCW still coming.

Sounds like they are getting to do more than they thought. This is good news in a year of disappointments so far...

JediTricks
05-02-2013, 12:05 AM
USA Today (http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/2013/04/30/star-wars-the-clone-wars-animation/2122763/) has an interview with Dave Filoni and an exclusive clip featuring Plo Koon and the Wolfpack searching through a Tatooine sandstorm in a Turbo Tank.

The most intriguing part of the interview is as follows:



Hopefully we'll finally get some answers on this subject! There is still no news on when or where the bonus content will be released, but the animation is nearing completion (and Matthew Wood tweeted today that Skywalker Sound is hard at work on these episodes). It's also unclear whether the Plo Koon arc is the same as the previously-previewed "Order 66" arc or not, but it sounds like it could be separate - if so, that's the Clovis arc, the Order 66 arc, the Plo Koon arc, and Tom Kane mentioned that he was told a Yoda arc would be completed as well. So it sounds like there could be a pretty good amount of TCW still coming.Now we know the real reason the show got canceled, Disney didn't want to let the cat out of the bag on that one! :D

Mr. JabbaJohnL
09-20-2013, 03:09 PM
Not really sure where else to post this, but Seth Green did an AMA (Ask Me Anything) interview on Reddit (http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1ml9cw/seth_green_here_actorproducer_writer_director/ccaba64) and had this to say about Detours:


So there's actually been quite a bit of talk about this, but Detours is just on hold currently. We have 39 finished episodes and around 62 finished scripts. But that entire show was created before the decision to make more Star Wars movies, so our show (which was created by George Lucas) is an animated sitcom in the world of Star Wars, so we had a lot of conversations with Kathleen Kennedy about Star Wars in not just the next 3 years but the next 30 years, and when you're in as privileged a position as we were to be able to work on Star Wars content with its creator, you get a great sense of responsibility to the whole. I was introduced to Star Wars as a child and it was without any ironic or comedic lens, so I saw Darth Vader as scary, and I saw all of those messages very very clearly. We didn't think it made any sense, in anticipation of these new movies coming out, to spend the next 3 years with an animated sitcom as 3 generations' of kids first introduction to the Star Wars universe.

I've had a lot of parents approach me in the last few years where they showed Robot Chicken or Family Guy Star Wars before they showed them regular Star Wars. The writers on Robot Chicken and I are seeing this a lot. The same way we were introduced to classic music through Bugs Bunny or Tom & Jerry, kids are taking our ironic interpretations of He-Man or other pop culture icons and never having the opportunity to meet them sincerely. It's a really bizarre thing to wrap your head around, and because I've witnessed it firsthand, it made me more thoughtful about what we were putting it out.

I do feel that Detours is a timeless bit of entertainment. Media distribution is changing so quickly, so dramatically, that can you even imagine what distribution of content will look like in 5 years? In a day and age when Netflix series are nominated for the top accolades TV has to offer, what is to say what it will look like when the new Star Wars movie comes out? So Detours can sit on a shelf until the Star Wars movie comes out without losing any of its lustre, because what we've created is very funny, very smart and like I said before, timeless.


Interesting that they already have so much work completed here. I totally agree with the thought process here on not wanting kids to be introduced to it right now through comedy . . . though I don't know if it would be much different than them being introduced through Angry Birds, but whatever . . .

Beast
10-11-2013, 11:07 PM
Good news! The final unfinished episodes of Clone Wars have been completed. And are coming...

From Dave Filoni's Facebook page:

"Star Wars fans - I have some exciting news! We have wrapped production on all of the remaining Star Wars: The Clone Wars episodes, and while that might be sad news in one way, it's good news in another. It means you will finally get to see them. When, exactly, is a detail I cannot yet share. I can confirm that in early 2014 you will be watching the final episodes of The Clone Wars, including one of Master Yoda's most challenging missions. So, get ready. We've got Clone Wars and Rebels coming at you in 2014. Animated Star Wars is alive and well. Trust in the Force my friends.

- Dave"

Bel-Cam Jos
10-12-2013, 10:25 AM
Can you say, "bonus add-ons to various DVD or Blu-Ray sets?" Or "convention exclusive clips?" Yes, yes you can.

Beast
10-12-2013, 10:51 AM
Can you say, "bonus add-ons to various DVD or Blu-Ray sets?" Or "convention exclusive clips?" Yes, yes you can.
Nah. They wouldn't have spent all that money finishing them if all they were going to do was show clips at conventions. Or if they they weren't going to be released somehow that makes money for them.

And if they were just going to include them as some bonus to a new DVD or Blu-ray set. They would have come with the big sets tuesday. I expect a stand alone release, probably padded out with other stuff to boost the prices.

Probably around the same time that Rebels debuts on TV. So they can do a tie-in release.

Mr. JabbaJohnL
10-16-2013, 04:27 AM
Dave Filoni confirmed that the bonus content will be available in early 2014. He didn't say anything about the format, amount, or subject matter other than it features a Yoda solo mission (which we already knew). So it seems we'll see what's left of The Clone Wars at least a few months before Rebels premieres.

Mr. JabbaJohnL
11-22-2013, 06:21 PM
TCW writer Brent Friedman appeared on the new Rebels Report podcast (http://rebelsreport.podbean.com/2013/11/22/rebels-report-2-the-brent-friedman-interview/) and revealed some info about the unproduced episodes. (The nondescript hosts talk for about 15 or 20 minutes at first, but the interview takes up the rest of the show.)

There were plans to end the series at Season Seven, but since they wrote more episodes each season than were aired, there was enough content planned for a full Season Eight. The arc he wrote for Season Six was going to be pushed to be the premiere of Season Seven. He mentioned an adventure featuring Captain Rex and R2-D2, though I'm not sure if that was the same arc.

Ahsoka's departure at the end of Season Five wasn't meant to end the series, but rather to throw a big wrench into it. It sounds like she wasn't planned to appear any more.

He said that they had interesting and unexpected plans for Cad Bane. If anyone from the show can appear in Rebels, I would think it could be him.

As for bonus content, he said he's already seen the long-lost Clovis arc and that it was meant to tie into the standalone Death Watch episode from Season Four (A Friend in Need). He reiterated what others have said in that the Yoda arc is apparently amazing - and that's the only confirmed arc we know about.

Pablo Hidalgo has mentioned (https://twitter.com/infinata) more that the bonus content "package is still coming together," and that the "Yoda arc has a profound ending." He also mentioned that Dave wanted to show a Padmé story that led into ROTS with her actually diplomatically ending the war before Grievous surprise attacks Coruscant.

It's good to know more, but it's still extremely frustrating to hear the cool plans that we'll never get to see - three more full seasons would have been amazing. :frus:

Darth Metalmute
11-23-2013, 05:39 PM
The fact that they had everything planned out that well makes Disney's decision that more disappointing. I suppose the good news is that if Rebels is a flop, which it could very well be, then they could presumably easily put the Clone Wars team together again and quickly finish the series.

Tycho
11-24-2013, 12:39 AM
Rebels is a great opportunity to show Padme did not die!

She will live in seclusion on Alderaan raising Leia, until there's an urgent mission Padme can't stay away from.

Perhaps Brea Organa needs Padme's help.

Without knowing what he's doing - perhaps Vader's actions or minions kill them both.

So yes, Darth Vader did kill his wife - just not when he believes he did.

The tragedy's preserved and Leia grows up motivated to take up her mother's cause against Bail Organa's wishes, since she's all he has left. But he is inspired by his daughter, and continues to grow the Rebel Alliance.


At Padme's funeral, the Jedi have told Padme's parents the body is one of her handmaidens actually - and they would keep it quiet to cover up for the safety of their daughter and grand-daughter (the Naberries could be told about Leia but not about Luke - as Luke was chosen for training by Obi-Wan when he was old enough).

Anyway, a ret-con scene from ROTS for Rebels would be Dorme or Sabe dying, and their faking she is Padme for the funeral and the Jedi asking the Naberries to lie about that being their daughter's body to protect Padme.

Darth Vader (as more machine than man) would be too ashamed to go back there and Palpatine could be convinced of the tragedy since the Naberries would be legitimately sad they could never see their daughter and grand-daughter again anyway. Travel by the Naberries from Naboo to Alderaan would be suspicious - though maybe Padme and Leia do get out once in a while.

Obviously, when she's a teen, Leia cannot be contained (Blockade Runner anyone?)!


This could only be one part of the story arcs in Rebels. But that's what I would do.

Padme's death in ROTS was cheap. Obviously Bail Organa would know it was faked. But that was done to fool the medical droids and the Polis Masans so the Emperor would get an official record of Padme's death.

R2D2 knows - but knows everything anyway. Bail Organa had 3PO's memory wiped.

Vader might even capture 3PO and know his access codes but find nothing and dismiss him, never revealing he was Anakin "the maker."

There could be a staged fight to get 3PO back, but only to convince Vader that Padme was dead.

The irony still being that he blows up a ship or base, or his stormtroopers kill her anyway - without his knowledge she was there.

Worse, he could start looking for a child and Leia could be in danger.

If he knew, but knew she wasn't trained as a Jedi, that would put an interesting twist on ANH. Not sure I'm comfortable with that, but it could be done well.

Mr. JabbaJohnL
01-07-2014, 11:00 PM
Newsarama revealed (http://www.newsarama.com/19979-star-wars-the-clone-wars-finale-debuts-in-comics.html) that Dark Horse will adapt the scripts for an unproduced four-part Darth Maul arc! Despite what the article says, it wasn't intended to be the series finale, but it does seem like it's the finale for Maul's story in TCW. While of course I would have preferred to see these as finished episodes, I'm at least happy that we'll get to see some stories in this fashion - especially the conclusion to Maul's story, so we can see what Sidious has in store for him (the article mentions an obsidian prison). The four-issue miniseries will launch in May.

Mr. JabbaJohnL
01-10-2014, 01:38 PM
Dave Filoni just posted this clarifying update on Facebook about Darth Maul: Son of Dathomir:


Happy New Year!

You may have seen the recent Clone Wars / Dark Horse Comics news, and I thought I would chime in and clarify things a bit. I am very excited about our collaboration with Dark Horse and this opportunity to tell an unfinished story developed for the TV series.

Before we get into the details about the Maul comic, I’d like to make clear that this storyline does not represent The Clone Wars series finale. I’ve seen some confusion about that online and want to set the record straight. There are additional Clone Wars episodes on the way and one arc in particular marks the series finale in my mind. We’ll have fun discussing that in the not too distant future.

Allow me to reveal in more detail what the story “Darth Maul, Son of Dathomir” is, and where it came from. As I have mentioned in previous interviews, for us to create the rich and incredibly complex stories that we were telling during The Clone Wars, we would be working on around fifty episodes at one time. This is from rough outline form, all the way through final sound design and picture lock. There were several stories that had gone through a substantial amount of development when the series was ended. We realized that this meant certain character arcs would go unfinished, but the Story and Publishing teams at Lucasfilm approached me with a unique way to continue Maul’s story for everyone who had been faithful to the show. The idea was to tell the story in comic book form, and knowing the great work that Dark Horse had done over the years, I thought it was an excellent plan.

The story of Darth Maul had become an important one for the series and it was only fitting that we chose him for a comic adaptation. The comics will be based on four finished scripts that were written for Season 6 . These scripts came out of one of our story conferences with George Lucas. As they moved through the production pipeline, they became finalized scripts with a great deal of the actual design work completed. The designs you will see, the plot lines, and character development in these comic books are all coming directly from the TV production. I turned over all of the art to Dark Horse so they could create an accurate representation of what we were planning for the show.

I am thrilled with the result, and thankful that we could partner with Randy Stradley and his team on this project. As I have always said, the stories told during the Clone Wars era will live on, and we are eager to share Darth Maul’s storyline with you. Is it the final story for Darth Maul? You will have to read the comics to find out.

Tycho
01-11-2014, 12:48 PM
That's cool. We've had fun with him since he came back, but his living cheapened Obi-Wan's ascendancy to Sith-Killer and full Jedi Knight.

I hope Obi-Wan finishes what he began 12 years ago and cuts down the "other half."