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muskrat
08-30-2001, 12:01 AM
I am relativley new on the vintage scene (only been collecting for 1 year). Scanning Ebay, conventions and comics stores some of prices for vintage are too say the least....high. Now talking to a few collectors here and there I keep hearing stories about people finding POTF Luke Stormtroopers, Han in carbonite and the harder find figures MOC at conventions, comics stores etc... for $60 and this was only like 7 years ago! Other people getting 12 backs for less than a $100. My question is when did the massive jump in prices really take place? was it gradual or did EP1 really cause a huge market stir?? or are these people simply lying to make me feel bad for what I keep doshing out now.....:p

stillakid
08-30-2001, 01:02 AM
I'm sure that others no better than I, but when I started looking into completing my vintage collection around 5 years ago or so, the prices that you seem to be looking at were around then. I don't think the Ep I influenced things that much. For instance, I paid about $70 for a vintage Death Star Gunner loose at a show in Pasadena. I think I paid around $50 or so for the Death Star playset. Some guy had an incomplete Endor Tree thing and let it go (not to me, bummer) for $14. I look casually, but while high, the prices don't seem to be climbing too much.

evenflow
08-30-2001, 08:54 AM
I think that the prices for vintage figures have actually gone down. I remember when most stuff was untouchable, now things have calmed down because of all of the new products that come out.

Sith Worm
08-30-2001, 10:25 AM
I think that all the new stuff is pulling down the prices at the convetions here (TX.) they are coming down abit. I sall twoo Amanamans go for $45.00 each a few months ago. I wish the Yaks and Snaggs would come down they are the last two I need and don't really feel like spending $100.00 each.

Bel-Cam Jos
08-30-2001, 12:58 PM
I completed my collection (minus some rare variants- Vinyl Jawa, wind-up R2, etc.) in 1993, with the only figures I paid over $50 for were Han in Carbonite ($95) and Yak Face ($64). I think the big jump in prices came the year before the Special Editions, as sellers prepared for the hype. That would make it about 1995-96 or so. I see many a place that drops its prices now because no one wants to pay inflated rates on merchandise that's been on display for years, only getting dusty and faded by the sun!

bigbarada
09-05-2001, 01:57 AM
I think Hasbro re-releasing old molds for vehicles has caused the value of vintage vehicles to drop. The A-Wing is a prime example, I remember seeing a loose one selling for $400 and boxed ones around $800; but when the POTF2 version came out the prices dropped to around $200 loose and $600 MISB. The same thing happened with the Falcon, TIE Fighter and X-Wing.

evenflow
09-05-2001, 03:30 PM
Thats what i am saying. Only a few things have remaned high price, you can almost nything now, really cheap. Of course the stuff i need is still expensive. DAMN YOU VLIX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bel-Cam Jos
09-05-2001, 05:43 PM
evenflow, I sense some emotions in you, if only I could determine what emotion that is. ;) This is why I never decided to collect Droids or Ewoks figures, because they'd be too much, and cause my hair to fall out.

sith_killer_99
09-05-2001, 05:47 PM
Actually, I just picked up a MINT Carbonite Han complete with coin for around $50.00! Tight limbs and ZERO wear, it belonged to another collector and was only used for display.

Prices are a little high, but patients...and LUCK...can pay off.

I suggest checking out classified ads, like here on SSG, and talking to/ e-mailing other collectors. Trades are another option for reducing costs.

I'm just happy that I don't collect CARDED vintage figures!!! My wife would probably leave me!

TeeEye7
09-06-2001, 06:27 AM
SK99:

Welcome back! It's about time you showed up!:D

evenflow
09-06-2001, 11:02 AM
I couldn't really withstand buying the Droids and Ewoks cartoon lines. I ended up getting my complete set on the card for 200.00. Every one is MOMC. Boba Fett, A-wing Pilot, Wicket, all of them.

It just gets a little crazy when you are only missing like 5 figures/coins and they are all so rare and expensive. :

1. Vlix
2. Telescoping Ben
3. Telescoping Vader
4. Lili Ledy Tusken Raider
5. 63rd Up-Lifted Light saber

(I still need a Bib Fortuna coin and a Leia Boussh coin. I am also looking for a vinyl cape Jawa, I have one but am not sure if it is real. I didn't pay for it, so I don't mind but it would be cool to know for sure.)

It would also be great to get the Droids and Ewok prototypes, but again I would go crazy getting the money and trying to find them. There are alot of cool prototypes I would love to get my hands on. EX: Droids, Ewoks, Wookie Family, & Yarna D'al Gargan. :D

Mandalorian Candidat
09-06-2001, 04:18 PM
I really can't comment too accurately on the price jump/decrease for carded stuff since I just started recollecting vintage stuff this past summer. To me it seems like some stuff like 12 backs and other items from ANH are just so dang high while ROTJ figures are much lower. Does it have to do with age or availability? I sure don't know.

My impression is that some items seem to be relatively cheap, like loose complete figures from ROTJ and ESB, to a lesser extent. However, ANH figures are going for a higher price and are in less supply from outlets such as ebay. I'm just taking things on an item by item basis right now. If it seems to be a good deal compared to what's out there and the condition is decent, then I'll snatch it up.

bigbarada
09-07-2001, 08:13 PM
I think the reason ROTJ stuff isn't holding it's value is because by then everyone had caught on that these toys were going to be huge and ordered bazillions of them. Thus there are more of them to go around. Kind of like Ep1 toys.

GNT
09-08-2001, 01:05 AM
Another reason for ANH carded figures are going high is because back then people were opening their toys and now everybody wants them,they are in demand which can cause high prices!

evenflow
09-08-2001, 09:22 AM
Well, thatswhat I am saying. The demand has gone down for alot of things.

Bel-Cam Jos
09-08-2001, 11:01 AM
However many Vintage figures there were, that number has stayed the same. Where as POTF2 or POTJ semed to increase all the time, therefore making collectors want these "new" ones. Some of these "new" ones are simply variants. There aren't many Vintage variants, and new ones seldom appear anymore. So (take a deep breath), once collectors finish what they're looking for, that's it. Or, like me, they just start looking for doubles or ones in better shape. But if that's the case, then the demand isn't so high.
I also realize I may not have stated that my collection is probably 95% loose, which made it much cheaper to build. You carded collectors have your wallets endangered!

bigbarada
09-08-2001, 03:24 PM
I think the vintage SW line is what tipped everyone off that toys could be collected and resold for lots of money. Kind of like comic books. Anybody remember the variant and deluxe covers craze for comics in the 90s? How much are those worth again? Meanwhile truly rare and milestone comics still climb in value. Last I checked Amazing Fantasy #15 (1st apearance of Spider-Man) was selling for over $40,000!!

Of all the SWAF lines, I believe only the vintage ones will hold their value.

Bel-Cam Jos
09-08-2001, 03:50 PM
When E1 toys had been out for about a month, I had several adults (who realized I was a SW collector) ask me which ones would be worth the most. I always said within the next 2-5 years, probably none of these, but in 20 years, probably the main characters like Anakin, Maul, Qui-Gon, or Padme. This always received the same response of "oh." Star Wars = money money in many people's minds. bigbarada's right; the vintage line had a 20+ year jump on the E1 line.

So, BB, what comics are you kicking yourself for not buying at pre-1990s prices? I missed out on some like X-Men #1 ($300), Amazing Fantasy #15 ($500), Spiderman #14 ($75), or Fantastic 4 #48 ($50). D'oh!

bigbarada
09-08-2001, 04:01 PM
I almost bought the first appearance of Wolverine in Incredible Hulk #181(??) for $150. But I didn't.

Although if I was a little more dishonest I could've scored an Amazing Fantasy #15 for free!! Here's the story: I was in my favorite comic book store as a kid (circa 1990), it was just me and the shopkeeper, when in walks this guy with a copy of AF15 in his hand. No bag or protection of any kind, he slaps it down on the counter and asks, "How much will you give me for this?" The shopkeeper's eyes widened as he said, "I couldn't give you less than $2000, but that would break me!" They talk for a minute and then they both go to the back to check out the adult comics, which I wasn't old enough to look at yet. Leaving me and AF15 alone, I looked at the comic and looked at the door, for some reason decided against stealing it and went home.

What do you think? Did I make the right choice?

GNT
09-08-2001, 10:47 PM
Originally posted by bigbarada
I almost bought the first appearance of Wolverine in Incredible Hulk #181(??) for $150. But I didn't.

Although if I was a little more dishonest I could've scored an Amazing Fantasy #15 for free!! Here's the story: I was in my favorite comic book store as a kid (circa 1990), it was just me and the shopkeeper, when in walks this guy with a copy of AF15 in his hand. No bag or protection of any kind, he slaps it down on the counter and asks, "How much will you give me for this?" The shopkeeper's eyes widened as he said, "I couldn't give you less than $2000, but that would break me!" They talk for a minute and then they both go to the back to check out the adult comics, which I wasn't old enough to look at yet. Leaving me and AF15 alone, I looked at the comic and looked at the door, for some reason decided against stealing it and went home.

What do you think? Did I make the right choice?

You should have taken it,man! What were you THINKING!?!?!?!

Were there any camera's in the shop???

bigbarada
09-08-2001, 11:26 PM
No, but the shop owner knew me by name and where I lived and I think he would've caught on that I was the only one in the shop when it disappeared.

GNT
09-09-2001, 12:47 AM
Originally posted by bigbarada
No, but the shop owner knew me by name and where I lived and I think he would've caught on that I was the only one in the shop when it disappeared.

Too bad then :(

evenflow
09-09-2001, 08:58 AM
Well, if he didn't know you, you should have taken it.

Lobito
09-18-2001, 07:39 PM
When did prices got like this? After the line got canceled there was nowhere to found the figures, thus they made them more desirable, it was until yrs. later that SW figures were seen in hobby stores, every time they got more expensive. Until 1997 that SW conventions started to get an impulse and prices went to the roof.