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kevfett
05-05-2002, 12:32 AM
I have been collecting StarWars toys for 25 years and now thanks to Jorge Sacul, I'm calling it quits! I work anywhere from 40 to 60 hours a week with little chance for much vacation. I am supporting myself and my fiance while she is in Med school. There is NO WAY I could make it to Celebration 2. Now I find out that the exclusive Jorge Sacul will never be available any where else (except Evil-Bay). Well that is a hard slap in the face by whoever is the "think tank" in charge of putting off fans. I'm sure I'm not alone in thinking this. I guess those of us who can't make it to Indy aren't good enough fans to own a truly unique figure. Maybe we have pay our way into Fandom by paying outrageously high prices on E-Bay. I imagine 70% of those figures will end up on the secondary market. So for those of you like me who are getting "shut out" of Jorge Sacul and can't afford secondary prices, let Hasbro, Lucasfilm, and the Fan Club know!

AmanaMatt
05-05-2002, 01:03 AM
I share your frustration. An exclusive to a retailer is one thing, an exclusive (or exclusion to the rest of us) only available at one location for a 3 day period... that S-U-C-K-S!!!!


It's an ebay w**dream come true!

bigbarada
05-05-2002, 01:32 AM
I understand your frustration; but i've given up on having a complete collection. So this piece of crap rehash, doesn't interest me in the slightest. Besides, since when has being a fan been a quantitative thing? You must have all the items on this checklist or you're not a true fan? That's a load of crap. Once you give up the "completist" metality, you'll find that collecting can be fun again. Set yourself free. ;)

kevfett
05-05-2002, 03:34 AM
I by no means have a completist mentality. I just really like the Jorg Sacul action figure and feel slighted by the the way this figure is being released. I buy what I like and move on. My whole problem with this figure is Hasbro, Fan Club or LFL (whoever is sponoring it) knows darn well there is a market for it outside of the 25,000 people who can be in X city on X date. I personally don't feel like less of a fan without it, I just feel whoever is sponoring it is treating me like less of a fan because I can't go to the celebration.

LTBasker
05-05-2002, 05:34 AM
I'm a completist but I do have limits. I couldn't care less if I have the Sacul or Toy Fair Vader or not. IMO, the TF Vader wasn't worth the money and neither was Sacul, I'd grab them for the regular prices of them if I could but definitely not anymore than that, it's just a cheap way to make a buck.

Only thing new on the TF Vader is the packaging and the vac-metal, the mold was re-used.

Only thing new on the Sacul was the packaging (minus the design of the card), the head mold, and the paintjobs on the helmet and the X-wing. Even the blaster isn't new - it's Typho's.

Wolfwood319
05-05-2002, 11:02 AM
I for one am glad that many people are getting out of the game, thanks to these "Ultra Rare" exclusives that some people want in mass quantities. These figures are supposed to be exclusives, that's what makes them special. If they were everywhere, no one would care.

They wanted to make the Jorg Sacul figure a special exclusive to the fans that went to C2. That's what their intent was all along. People with that "completist" mentatlity obviously don't do this for fun anymore. They're just toys...:rolleyes:

DaneSolo
05-05-2002, 11:24 AM
I agree with Kevfett. This whole EXCLUDIVES thing is sickening. I'm tired of trying to hunt down this crap. It's gotten so bad that if I see it I buy it otherwise I forget it. There's no way in hell I'm gonna get gouged on Ebay. I've been a fan for 25 years and have bought alot of the crap BUT I couldn't afford to go 1500 miles to Indiana although I wanted to. I feel a little left out of the excitement as it is and Lucasfilm and Hasbro just made it worse by releasing stuff I'll never be able to get. It sucks and they better wake up and realize how they segregate people.

JangoTango
05-05-2002, 11:34 AM
All of this is quite understandable, as l was just on e-bay trying to bid on the Sacul fig. He started at 19.99 and by the time l could begin to place a bid it was up to 33.00. This in a matter of minutes and with only six bids. I think they should have set about a thousand on the side for fan club members; but if they have leftovers, hopefully they will.
The other side of the coin is, what if celeb lll is in a city closer to those of us who couldn't make ll, and then WE get an exclusive? What are those feelings?
Anyone remember the movie theater edition Luke jedi from the release of the special editions??

snakeplkn
05-05-2002, 12:52 PM
With the news of Hasbro losing so much money, it's no wonder considering the company's behaviour. Imagine if Ford released a new car and it was only available in Indianapolis for 3 days. Or Paramount came out with a new movie but would only show it 50 theaters in the entire country, on purpose. Or Nabisco decided to sell cookies only in selected speciality cookie shops despite huge demand.

Hasbro doesn't understand the simple truth ... we are willing to part with our money for Star Wars merchandise pretty easily. Maybe too easy. Instead of putting everything online so the real target market, forum members or visitors of any Star Wars website, can use credit cards to instantly buy all what we want without having to scour store after store, Hasbro has made it difficult, and in the case of Jorg Sacul, extremely difficult for others to collect.

Don't get started on that "kids are buying Star Wars." Ever since 1995, I have seen a total of 2 kids buy Star Wars. That encompasses over 10 states in 7 years! The target market is us, right here, right now. It defies explanation what motivates them to sell only Sacul at Indianapolis since if we make a very simple assumption that they make $5 profit per figure at $10 a piece, and say 50,000 people who couldn't go want him, that's $250,000 lost already.

Anyone knows of Hasbro margins? How much does it cost per figure? Shipping? How much actual profit? I would interested to know.

Snake Plissken
"A little human compassion"

InsaneJediGirl
05-05-2002, 08:42 PM
Jorg didnt make me stop collecting.Jorg is just a Jek Porkins body with a GL head and a Mirco Machines X-Wing.Its just a toy..everyone breathe.It isnt like its the Imperial Shuttle.Now thats something to be mad about;)

Neat Stuff
05-05-2002, 09:10 PM
Ya know what else sucks...even if you went to Indy today, you probably didn't get one!

I loaded the wife (who already questions my sanity for playing with little plastic men) up this morning and made the 170 mile one-way trip to Indy. Got there about 9:30 AM, stood in line, plunked down my $60 for the two of us (again, wife is REAL impressed with this!).

My receipt is time-stamped 10:21 AM. Got directions to where ole Jorge was to be sold. Got there and was told, "Sorry...all sold out."! :mad:

I guarantee you I'll NEVER fall for this Bull***t again!

Lord Tenebrous
05-05-2002, 09:12 PM
I don't blame Hasbro or any other company for this. I blame member of the Star Wars collecting community who are in this purely to speculate and skew interests. The ones who jump the guns on rumors, the ones who fuel the secondary market, the ones who make us all worry if we'll be able to find the figures we like and want.

Hasbro put forth a fun figure to celebrate C2 - something that isn't needed to complete the set of figures from the movies. Something unique for fans to KEEP.

So blame the buyers, blame the sellers. This is the reason our little hobby has exploded into an orgy of greed. :(

SithDroid
05-05-2002, 09:52 PM
I for one DO blame Hasbro. They say they want to pleae the fans, then why do something like this. Hey if I had $1,000 to go to Celebration II I'd probably do it, but I don't so I didn't go. Does that make me or anyone else who doesn't have enough money to go any less of a fan? This is a huge slap in the face to all the fans that were unable to attend. Perhaps if it were in Kansas City which is more centrally located, then I probably could have gone since that is not that far from me. I am sick of the exclusives and Hasbros little explanation of why they do them (in the SSG news section) is just plain ridiculous. Why don't they think that fans will buy these if they were available everywhere? There are millions of Star Wars fans and many of them are completists. Set the product at a resonable price that is easy to find and I guarantee that they will sell. I for one am glad that this whole shuttle business limited to 5,000 has finally been announced as just a rumor and not confirmed. So far this year we already have two exclusives that are going to be nearly impossible to find.

Jorg Sacul and 25th Anniversary Darth Vader.

Hey Hasbro stop with the exclusives. If you really want to know if something is going to sell, then I suggest you start hiring people that are fans of the figures you make, heck I'd be willing to work in your division. Who do I call for a job like that? I have a pretty large knowledge of Star Wars, Transformers, and G.I.Joe, which the latter two have suffered within the last couple of years. Hiring fans is the best way to go.

Beast
05-05-2002, 09:59 PM
Sithdroid, they know that they won't sell at regular retail because they tried for years. Starting in 1995 with The Millenium Falcon, X-Wing, Landspeeder, Tie Fighter, AT-ST, and continuing on thru all the ships afterwards.

They sat on shelves and most people didn't buy them, until the stores basically told Hasbro that they didn't want anymore vehicles clogging shelf space. Everything was pretty much cleranced out, and smaller retailers stopped ordering anything outside of figures, at all.

The stores won't take the gamble on the ships like they did at the start. The one ship they took a gamble on was the Queen's Royal Starship and that one didn't sell well, and ended up getting cleranced. So it's either exclusive for most of the vehicles, or make none at all.

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

QLD
05-05-2002, 11:27 PM
I agree with Jar Jar. They don't sell at the store level. ANd honestly, I would probably buy less of them if they were sitting on the shelves everywhere. I mean, the only reason I bought a lot of vehicles is because they were on clearance. And now, the only reason I buy them, is because they are in extremely limited quantities.

And the reason they don't hire fans is simple. They are a business. No matter what they say, or we might want to think, they are not out to please us. They are out to make money, which is what businesses do. A fan would go in there and ruin the company in a year. It's not the cool or popular answer, but it's the truth.

Wolfwood319
05-05-2002, 11:44 PM
Originally posted by Neat Stuff
Ya know what else sucks...even if you went to Indy today, you probably didn't get one!

I loaded the wife (who already questions my sanity for playing with little plastic men) up this morning and made the 170 mile one-way trip to Indy. Got there about 9:30 AM, stood in line, plunked down my $60 for the two of us (again, wife is REAL impressed with this!).

My receipt is time-stamped 10:21 AM. Got directions to where ole Jorge was to be sold. Got there and was told, "Sorry...all sold out."! :mad:

I guarantee you I'll NEVER fall for this Bull***t again!

Now that does suck. I think poorly of Hasbro when they can't even keep up with demand this Jorg Sacul figure. Everyone that attended C2 should've been able to get at least one.

But I do agree with JJB and QLD on this one. If the TF Vader and Jorg Sacul figure were everywhere, people would complain that all that sits on the shelves were these 2 figures and that it prevents stores from ordering more figures.

The TF Vader was a promotional item at Toy Fair for those in the business. The fact that collectors wanted them to the point where they'll spend hundreds of dollars on them, was a bit shocking to say the least.

Then they try to do something for the collectors, by selling them on the web site, and then they get crap for that. The same thing would happen if they sold the Jorg Sacul figure on the web site. If Hasbro mass produced these 2 figures, more than likely, we would get 2 less figures in the regular line.

There are many people that work in Hasbro's Marketing department that spend their entire days thinking of what will sell, and what won't. The fact is, a TF Vader and Jorg Sacul figure won't sell that well in the mass market. I'm sure there are a lot of fans out there that don't even know about them. Most of the people who whine about them are the internet savvy fans that are a little more hardcore then most.

Just look at JJB's example. This stuff actually didn't sell. For every one fan that's a completist, there are maybe 25 that are just casual collectors.

You also have to remember that Hasbro listens more to retailers than fans. If Hasbro made a product that didn't sell, the retailers will tell them, and that will make it harder for them to come out with a similar product.

Some people will never understand this, I know, but its the reason why Hasbro does these sort of things.

SithDroid
05-06-2002, 12:37 AM
Originally posted by JarJarBinks
Sithdroid, they know that they won't sell at regular retail because they tried for years. Starting in 1995 with The Millenium Falcon, X-Wing, Landspeeder, Tie Fighter, AT-ST, and continuing on thru all the ships afterwards.

They sat on shelves and most people didn't buy them, until the stores basically told Hasbro that they didn't want anymore vehicles clogging shelf space. Everything was pretty much cleranced out, and smaller retailers stopped ordering anything outside of figures, at all.

The stores won't take the gamble on the ships like they did at the start. The one ship they took a gamble on was the Queen's Royal Starship and that one didn't sell well, and ended up getting cleranced. So it's either exclusive for most of the vehicles, or make none at all.

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

The ships I can underestand, but figures, come on now. How hard is it to mass produce these? Besides figures usually sell way better anyway because they are cheaper. The problem with the vehicles when they came out was that they were way too overpriced. Who wants to pay $80 for and AT-AT or $100 for a Queen Royal Starship? Not me. These things are made out of plastic people and the cost to make these things is quite minimal compared to the mark-up that they get put at for sale. That is why people wait for them to get clearanced down. They are just too expensive. That is what I am planning on doing with the AOTC vehicles. The Slave I and Jedi Starfighter are everywhere here. They are definately goiing to sit on the shelves until they get clearanced. I for one don't collect many vehicles, mainly due to the large amount of space they take up, but for figures, they should be more accessible to everyone.

bigbarada
05-06-2002, 12:49 AM
I think the primary reason these figures are so popular is because they are so exclusive. If Jorg Sacul was released at mass market everybody would be complaining about the rehashed body and overall crappy quality. Same for Toyfair Vader, who I would only want because of his exclusivity and that nifty vac-sealed finish, otherwise he is simply a regurgitation of a hideous mold.

kevfett
05-06-2002, 02:19 AM
I never said Sacul or TF Vader should be at mass retail. I just think that there could have been a better way so everyone could enjoy these items. I have to say DC Direct does it right. Solicate an exclusive figure for a month and 4-6 months later that toy comes out. Everything is made to order so it is up to comic shops how many are produced. Hasbro could EASILY do this through the fanclub. It would cost a little more but wouldn't this help everyone? Hasbro could reuse old molds with retooled heads. They could even do vehicles this way. Hasbro knew damn well that these two figures would be highly coveted by certain collectors. That's the whole point with Toyfair giveaways anyway. Create a "buzz" around your product. As far as Sacul is concerned Hasbro probably did it to "brownnose" with ole Georgey. Why not release Sacul in different packaging?

icatch9
05-06-2002, 08:39 AM
It is sad that every fan could not go, but that is the breaks. Consider this. Even if you could of went, the price of the ticket, the cost of gas, and accomidations, and food (ect.) would be well over the price you may pay for one Jorg figure. So, your are actually saveing money. Plus the hour and a half wait to get the figure and battleing the 28,000 other fans there deserves a little bit of a price hike.

If anyone does buy one on ebay, then just think of all the money and stress your saveing.

chenlembec
05-06-2002, 12:04 PM
I just got back from C2, and would like to chime in here. I live in Massachusetts, and I am poor. I could not afford to go to C2, but I scraped up some dough, and My girfreind and Grandparent's gave me the plane tickets, and the Three day Fanclub pass (Member for long time, ..since oh before you were born) and I went alone and stayed in a crappy hotel for $60.00 a night pretty far away from the convenion center. I got in line at 6:30 am on Friday morning, and I would say I was around 200th in line. Once entering the building I was directed to where people were picking up passes, instead of the store, which I found shortly there after. The line to get in the store was incredible. But after a while I got in and got my 2 Jorg's allowed per person per day. a couple hours later I said what the hell, and got 2 more. Lucky for me because when came back on Saturday at noon they were sold out for the day. On Sunday I tried to get there earlier, but I got there about 7:30 and was approximately in the thousand range in line. But patience paid off and I did get in while they had plenty left and I got 2, and went into another line just in time to get the last 2 on the table. It may not have been "Fair" but as I said before, I am poor. I am not an e-bastard. I spent my last $40 that morning, gave one to my friend at $10.00 and almost immediately sold 2 of the for $50.00 each. Know I had money to eat, and buy more toys! All I'm trying to say is, if you needed Jorg Sacul that bad, so bad that without it you would give up this hobby (which I did for a time after I couldn't get TC-14 or R2-B1) Then you should have come up with the dough to go. My girlfreind is an expert at getting cheap airfare and accomadations. I couldn't even afford to take a taxi anywehre, I used the hotel's shuttle to get back and forth from the convention center. All in all the total cost of going (including the prices of my birthday gifts) was about $1,000.00 well spent.Exclusive figures are part of this hobby, and I hope they wil be for some time. I thought the TF vader was cool, but not my cuppa tea, But Jorg is. I just hope that I don't find them on the shelves at TRU for $1.97, Wuher style. All I'm tryingto say is if you want something bad enough get of your *** and do something about it. Kevfett, you say your supportingyourself and your fiancewhile she goes to med school? what are you complaining about? Having to wait until your rich doctor wife can buy you one? I support my girlfriend and our 7 year old son, and I could manage to go, because I love Star Wars more than anything. I went to C1, C2, and next time the whole family is going to C3. Ihope to see some of you there,as I did not see a single one of the SSG "passes" Sirsteve made. Also Kefett you are cleary a member of this communtity, why didn't you make a friend of someone who was going and get them to get one for you? My Tru contat asked me to get him one, and I did. I would have been more than happ to help out anyone who asked if I could get them one, but alas only one person did, so he is probably one of the few people who dod not go C2 who will get one cheap. Take care, ad MTHFBWY!

kevfett
05-06-2002, 11:13 PM
You know, now that C2 is done and over I have simmered down a little. In answer to chenlembec. I just didn't know anyone who was going to C2, or I would have. I have a little bit of a problem shopping around, mainly because it just feeds the madness. Personally I would have no problem paying a fan who had to stand in line for a Sacul. My whole problem now is finding out about those fans who traveled all of that way to get shut out. I will now put my tail between my legs and get a Sacul from the "Bay". I just hope it will be from a fan who actually appreciated going to the celebration. I'm going to start saving now for C3. What can I say? I love Star Wars. I do think Hasbro needs to rethink how they distribute exclusives. I think a DC Direct approach would be perfect. Maybe we would even see more expanded Universe fig. Those are my favorites. But anyways, thanks for putting it into perspective for me chenlembec!

Monolith
05-07-2002, 12:10 AM
I have one word for all of this anti-Sacul sentiment....PERSPECTIVE. The only reason everyone has their panities in such a tizzy about this is because it's a FIGURE. Would we all be ranting and raving about the Celebration II exclusive key chain, bottle opener, or toothbrush? Yes, I was forunate enough to live within 3 hours of Indy and yes I patiently waited in line for an hour to spend twice the normal retail value for an imaginary figure (and a Cel. II program, which no one seems too upset about not being able to buy). But it is simply a novelty item, not an integral character to the line. They didn't even put them on special cards, just the same Ep. II theme card with some different printing on the back.

Sure I wanted this figure since I had the opportunity, but if it wasn't feasible then so be it. I personally am more disappointed in missing out on TC-14, Sio Bibble, R2 with Hologram, Admiral Motti, & Hooded Leia in the stores and must submit to scalpers prices to add these to my collection. And let's face it, as immoral as we want to paint the scalpers, it is the people that pay the prices that fuel the whole thing! The $100 "Buy it Now" postings are nauseating, but it looks like most of the other postings have bids legitimately driven up to $60-$80. Simple supply & demand...if someone wants the thing bad enough then the scalpers are rewarded. Just echoing the point that Lord Tenebrous made above - we all want to be part of the solution but unfortunately we (collectors) are the reason for the problem!

To me a reasonable compromise would be to reissue the figure through the fan club on a different card without the Celebration II printing so that all collectors at least have a chance to add it to their collection, and those that did attend at least have the (somewhat) unique card.

2-1B
05-07-2002, 02:55 AM
chenlembec, that's just silly. You mentioned twice that you are poor, I don't know any poor people who can spend a grand on a vacation. :crazed:

Look,

All I'm trying to say is, if you needed Jorg Sacul that bad, so bad that without it you would give up this hobby (which I did for a time after I couldn't get TC-14 or R2-B1) Then you should have come up with the dough to go.
wouldn't it be fair to respond to that with, "if you needed 'money to eat and buy more toys' shouldn't you have come up with the dough ahead of time ? Instead of scalping 2 Jorg Saculs that other attendees didn't get?"

I can't believe such controversy arises from a toy sale :D

Beast
05-07-2002, 03:10 AM
Originally posted by chenlembec
I support my girlfriend and our 7 year old son, and I could manage to go, because I love Star Wars more than anything.
Amenaman Caeser, poor does not equal blowing $1,000 to go to a convention. If you were really poor, you would be worrying more about buying food and a place to live then spending that kinda cash on a convention. You realize with that 1,000 you blew you could have easily picked up your TC-14 and R2-B1 figures and had around $950 bucks left. :p Oh, and this is not an attack, it's just a message on your priorities. But I am sure the fact that stating you love Star Wars more than anything, which includes your girlfriend and son, makes you a real super guy. :D

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

DaneSolo
05-07-2002, 09:12 PM
As so many "masters of the obvious" pointed out YES they're just toys (absurd all on their own.) The toys aren't the point--the stupid shuttle or crappy Jek Porkins with Lucas head--the point is that Hasbro and Lucas treat their fans like ****!
HE expects us to support him in order to make his movies; yes, a business, yet consistently finds ways to exclude or alienate his fans in little ways like what happened at Celebration II or making Decipher cards obsolete etc...
Just keep this in mind . . . What is going to happen to Hasbro after Episode III and there is no promise of more movies to come??? It'll be like 1984 all over again. Figures will drop through the floor as well as demand and everything else Star Wars will become uncool again. Does anyone else have stories of yard sale figures 3 for a buck???
[It's all garbage] George is getting his money while it's hot!

SithDroid
05-08-2002, 12:34 PM
Originally posted by JarJarBinks

Amenaman Caeser, poor does not equal blowing $1,000 to go to a convention. If you were really poor, you would be worrying more about buying food and a place to live then spending that kinda cash on a convention. You realize with that 1,000 you blew you could have easily picked up your TC-14 and R2-B1 figures and had around $950 bucks left. :p Oh, and this is not an attack, it's just a message on your priorities. But I am sure the fact that stating you love Star Wars more than anything, which includes your girlfriend and son, makes you a real super guy. :D

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

I agree with you. Having food and a place to live is more important than a $1,000 3 day so called "vacation."

I honestly would have gone had I had the kind of money to blow. Unfortunately I'm still fresh out of college and saving my money up for more important things, not that SW isn't important to me, but sometimes other priorites come first.

OriginalBryGuy
05-09-2002, 01:32 PM
I don't think you guys are getting it...these figures were made for those that attended the convention. On the back of each card it says Indianapolis, IN. The idea was hundreds of thousands made there way to Indy for the event. This figure was meant for them!

Was there a severe loss of communicating that...yes. Did HASBRO make enough...hell no, however, if you were told you couldn't get one at the Celebration II Store, there was a form you could fill out to have the figures sent to you later, so anyone who was there could have gotten them, end of story.

Jorg Sacul is a cool figure, but come on...it's JUST a figure. If you stop collecting because of one exclusive figure, you're just nuts, and will miss out on alot of great figures down the road.

As evil as Ebay might be, the Jorgs are out there if you want one that bad. From here on out there's no way you'll get one for the 10 bucks they were selling for so suck it up and pay big or forget you ever heard of Jorg Sacul.

Anyone who got to Indy and stood in line at the Celebration Store first thing after getting in had a chance to get figures. I was there, all three days, all three mornings before 12 noon, and they still had them in hand. Just check out my pics from the show. You can see where the lines were and how it was set up.

Celebration II Pics (http://www.originalplots.com/digital/050302/)

evenflow
05-09-2002, 03:12 PM
I totally agree that it is ridiculous and that it sucks about Sacul only being available for 3 days in one part of the country. I hope they never do it again.


Unfortunatly, I am weak. Ebay calls, damn myself for being a completist.

Taichi
05-09-2002, 06:04 PM
The way I see it, I hope C3 has another exclusive that I can get ahold of, in enough quantity for me to have one, and to barter the rest for the other exclusives (Sacul, TF Vader), but not at the expense of shutting out other fans......that'd just suck

aikman
05-10-2002, 11:15 AM
Exclusives arent good for our hobby, period.

The few the proud, the lucky ,the pennyless can get these figures or ships or whatever.

But its a sad state when people that would love to get an item are shut out because they arent near a particular store, cant make a particular event , or dont have the time to scour the state for certain items.

eliwankenobi
05-10-2002, 06:07 PM
I think the whole Sacul thing made only available at C2 is a bunch of bull****. This is a figure that I think EVERY SW fan would want to have. If they didn't want to release this one thru regular retail, than it should have been offered thru the FC or another direct-order source (i.e. Muftak & Kabe, B'Omarr Monk).

If they wanted to make an 'exclusive' for the show, it should have been something like a previous fig in special packaging (i.e. TF Vader, SE Luke Jedi). I think most collectors who couldn't make it to C2 wouldn't be as offended as they are over a figure they could otherwise have, just in a different package.

I have always thought that Hasbro's SW exclusives are a rotten thing to do to the collectors. No matter what it is, there will always be a group *****ing about not being able to get/find this or that. I have recently been one of these because I had to resort to eBay to get a TIE Bomber; and I just may go back for the Sacul and be happy that it only cost me $60-70 instead of a $1000 trip.

I understand that Hasbro is just looking to cover their own *** by not losing $$ on any product, but I think there are much better ways of offering 'exclusives' that could satiate the majority of fans and collectors, while at the same time discouraging scalping of their product.

Pschtyckque
05-13-2002, 05:27 PM
So, how do you really feel about this... ;)

Mnkyskater
05-14-2002, 09:42 PM
In response to comparasions made about other items, this sort of thing happens all the time. Movies are released in about 10-15 theatres at the end of each year so they are considered for oscar nods. I sort of feel that Sacul was something memorable and special people got for going to C2. I didnt go, so i dont want one. He was never in a movie so, i dont really consider him a character or a star wars figure

I think that Hasbro should do exclusives directly through their website. Collectors would pre order an item and then Hasbro would make only enough for those orders, thus eliminating over shipping or low demand for an item.

Figurestasher
05-14-2002, 10:06 PM
I agree with you mnkyskater, since I couldn't go to C2 I don't want a Jorg Sacul. If I did buy one off ebay( which I wouldn't) instead of thinking about C2 everytime I look at the figure or show it off to someone, I would be thinking of how much I had to pay for this stinkin figure and how I couldn't go to C2! No offense to any one that bought or wants to buy one of ebay or somewhere. This is just my opinion.

sunblind
05-22-2002, 10:40 AM
You know...I don't like the idea of this exclusive figure buisness and I also dont like the high prices on the ships and large items Hasbro puts out. If they only knew the true power of pricing lower than higher, the items would sell.

OriginalBryGuy
05-23-2002, 09:57 AM
Well, I'd say get your money together and go to Celebration III for the next exclusive figure.

May, 2005, Indianapolis, IN

OriginalBryGuy
05-23-2002, 10:00 AM
I went to the convention all 3 days and ya know what? Jorg Sacul wasn't even my biggest score. Some hapless vendor sold me a Darth Vader (Retooled Shadows Version) for 5 bucks! I about lost it. That was the highlight buy of the entire trip.