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Battle Droid
05-09-2002, 03:26 PM
This comes from www.theforce.net , some of you may already seen it, some not.

You may be interested to note some scenes that were cut from the film:


- Anakin no longer says he was looking for a speeder with a “gonzo” color.

- Padme’s dramatic entrance into the Senate after the assassination attempt is gone.

- The scenes with Padme’s family are still gone.

- The scene of Padme and Anakin riding off on a shaak from the meadow is cut.

- The trial of Anakin and Padme on Geonosis is cut out.

- Jocasta Nu’s speech about Count Dooku and the Lost Twenty was cut.

This being noted, there's an excellent chance that we didn't see the final version of the film tonight. The version on May 16th could easily be slightly different.

Hopefully all of them are on the DVD.

pthfnder89
05-09-2002, 03:32 PM
There is also the scene with Padme and C3PO on Tatooine that was cut out.

The only one from that list that I think they really need to leave in is Jocasta Nu's speach about the Lost Twenty. I haven't read the book, but I would assume this is a pretty important nugget of info for the audience to know in order to understand where Dooku comes from.:)

Battle Droid
05-09-2002, 03:34 PM
I wish the Court Scene would've been left in, Dooku isn't in the movie much as it is.

Beast
05-09-2002, 03:47 PM
Originally posted by Battle Droid
This comes from www.theforce.net , some of you may already seen it, some not. You may be interested to note some scenes that were cut from the film:


- Anakin no longer says he was looking for a speeder with a “gonzo” color.
Good, horrible bit of dialogue. Thankfully it went the way with most of the utterances of "Wizards" from E1. :p


- Padme’s dramatic entrance into the Senate after the assassination attempt is gone.
Good scene, but rather talkative. And for the audience, pretty useless since we know she didn't die. Hope it's on the DVD as well.


- The scenes with Padme’s family are still gone.
Good, I like her family but they drag the book out. Hopefully we see some of them, but nothing as much as occurs in the book. The Lars family is tons more intresting.


- The scene of Padme and Anakin riding off on a shaak from the meadow is cut.
Good, sounds silly anyway. The romance part of the story is good, as long as it's not bogged down with scenes like this.


- The trial of Anakin and Padme on Geonosis is cut out.
What!? They cut this scene out? It was great in my opinion. I definatly hope that Lucas restores it for the DVD. It's just a great little scene, and nothing that Christopher Lee is in should have been cut.


- Jocasta Nu’s speech about Count Dooku and the Lost Twenty was cut.
Another bad cut, back story on Dooku is important. I hope they mean that only parts of the speech have been cut. We get alot of info about Dooku in her speech, and it's very very necissary to the charecter. Say it ain't so. :(


This being noted, there's an excellent chance that we didn't see the final version of the film tonight. The version on May 16th could easily be slightly different.
Hopefully all of them are on the DVD.
Hopefully so, but Lucas was editing editing E1 up until almost the day it was released So anything can change between now and the 16th. Besides, if the E1 DVD is any indication, we will see most if not all of the cut scenes on there. :D

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

Jargo
05-09-2002, 04:07 PM
But Lucas says it's not about the dialogue it's all about the visuals. So it's okay for the story to be messed up and for us not to know anything about the characters because the visuals are all that matters.... hmmmmmmmm................

corporal AMF
05-10-2002, 11:53 PM
Wow, I was hoping that Jocasta Nu's history was staying in the movie......I really like things explained in the movie, not left off to EU or visuals dictionary or novelizaiornz :(

Lord Tenebrous
05-11-2002, 12:33 AM
The Lost Twenty concept brings up more questions than it answers in the movie. Focusing on Dooku leaving the order is more important than who else left.

I like the cuts. It gets rid of a lot of redundant material, but whether that material was better here than in the finished movie, that is yet to be seen...

bigbarada
05-12-2002, 04:06 AM
Looks like we are in for one heck of a special features disc on the DVD. Either that or a 4-hour version of AOTC, not saying that's a bad thing.

As long as the scene where Padme puts on Threepio's coverings stays out, I am happy. I'm just a little concerned that all these cuts will make the movie seem disjointed.

2-1B
05-16-2002, 06:33 AM
Lines that I noticed were absent:

Anakin, "I've heard this lesson before"

Bail Organa, something about how "they must stop them before they are ready"

I'm trying to think of more trailer dialogue that was cut, but that's all I have for now . . .

Tycho
05-16-2002, 06:47 AM
Padme's family scenes should never have been cut!

We lose some of the sense of who she is and where she comes from, plus her mother and sisters press her to accept Anakin's affections.

The kiss by the lake seems too sudden without that. She was resisting him before.

Plus, she lives on Coruscant now, but just happens to have a lodge on this beautiful lake? She returns home after all this and nobody but a new Queen she's unrelated to cares about her?

She's 24 and has no family left? She just has a flashy ship and a lodge by the lake? So she's a rich b c h and lives in Theed 90210?

We know there's more to Padme than that. While she gave a better performance than Anakin or Obi-Wan in Episode One, she fell far behind them in some character background in Episode Two. Her performance with what she had in the relationship was excellent though!

They could have let her have more though and take on Count Dooku in the Trial Scene. Why was that cut?

But "no action" so what? I don't think her family scene should have been cut. Developing their love was important to the plot and led to that great argument between Anakin and Obi-Wan when she fell out of the ship!

Jargo
05-16-2002, 09:47 AM
From all that I've heard has been cut I get a sense that the characters have been dehumanised so that there's a lesser feeling of empathy for them which is no better than the cold soulless feeling I got from TPM. As one reviewer over here said, George is an excellent producer and visionary but he should leave the directing to someone else. Or just do the technical direction and leave the actors to someone else. This isn't to say that my opinion won't change when i see the movie, I'm just going on what I've been reading everywhere that's been written from differing points of view. I never read just the one side but good and bad reviews and find the middle ground. I genuinely feel that George has had some fantastic opportunities to do something real with the saga and fluffed them in favour of effects shots to wow the audience and pander to the hollywood way of moviemaking instead of actually doing it his own way. If he filmed the scenes then he must have wanted to have the movie go that way instead of cutting the characters out to shorten the movie to Fox's tastes. I'd rather sit through a long character driven movie than a shorter special effects showcase. Leaving out the scene where Anakin breaks down to Padme on Tatooine is unforgivable IMO. Leaving out the court scene is a bad move. Leaving out the family completely is dumb when just a little of that would have finally given Padme some identity. The 3PO coverings going on wasn't needed and seemed too contrived even for star wars which is held together by contrivance and coincidence.
I guess like Ricky McC said just recently, George is going hell for leather at the complete saga being together on one huge archival set of DVD's with everything on it. He's filming more scenes to insert into the OT to link the whole thing together.maybe we will get the whole four hours of movie at a later date. maybe George will do what he did with ANH and re-edit the movie for a re-release in a year or so.
As of now though I feel that the edit of AOTC is fumbled. I think there are too many in jokes creeping in and too much reference to now - the 21st century and modern life. It's detracting from the story, causing ripples in the credibility of the saga.
That's just my thoughts for the day. Probably completely change my mind tomorrow. :)

Dave_Cameron
05-16-2002, 10:36 AM
Is there a DVD in the works already? I heard rumors that it would be coming out in the Fall. I didn't know if that was true. It would be nice, though. I'll have something new to put into my laptop on those long flights!

pthfnder89
05-16-2002, 10:54 AM
Originally posted by EMPEROR JARGO
From all that I've heard has been cut I get a sense that the characters have been dehumanised so that there's a lesser feeling of empathy for them which is no better than the cold soulless feeling I got from TPM. ...

Leaving out the scene where Anakin breaks down to Padme on Tatooine is unforgivable IMO. Leaving out the court scene is a bad move. Leaving out the family completely is dumb when just a little of that would have finally given Padme some identity. The 3PO coverings going on wasn't needed and seemed too contrived even for star wars which is held together by contrivance and coincidence.

After seeing it last night I totally agree. I'm very glad he left out the Padme/Threepio scene as it doesn't make much sense anyway. But After seeing it, god I wished theyd left in Padmes family. She needed SOMETHING to make her a little more human. (this goes for almost all the characters, not just Padme. She actually has a little more depth than the others, but in this movie, that's not saying much:()

Dexter
05-16-2002, 01:12 PM
Despite having an action figure, R3-T7 is rumored to have been cut from the final movie. Bah.

evenflow
05-16-2002, 01:21 PM
Originally posted by pthfnder89
The only one from that list that I think they really need to leave in is Jocasta Nu's speach about the Lost Twenty. I haven't read the book, but I would assume this is a pretty important nugget of info for the audience to know in order to understand where Dooku comes from.:)

I was really looking forward to this, i hope that it gets restored for the DVD release, whenever it may be.

Taichi
05-16-2002, 01:59 PM
Okay, at the battle of Geonosis, I thought that Plo Koon and Ki Adi Mundi were s'posed to be flying a mission in space OVER Geonosis, where they tried to knock out a droid control ship (Believing the droids were controlled from space), and then realizing that they were controlled from the ground.....

what happened to this scene?

CrossWizard
05-16-2002, 02:10 PM
Destroyed.........by the empire!!

Actually it was just cut to put more emphasis on their presence in the Arena Battle.

Sith Worm
05-16-2002, 02:19 PM
I never could see plo or ki fighting all i ever sall of them was when they hopped on that ship with Yoda, there was alot of mayhem so i could have missed them...

pthfnder89
05-16-2002, 04:14 PM
Originally posted by Sith Worm
I never could see plo or ki fighting all i ever sall of them was when they hopped on that ship with Yoda, there was alot of mayhem so i could have missed them...

Well I remember Plo being seen in the circle, but I didn't see him actually fighting before then. Ki Adi is one of the first Jedis you see leap into battle when they are all igniting their lightsabers.

BanthaPoodoo
05-16-2002, 04:16 PM
Yep, when Dooku calls off the fighting, you see Plo milling around behind either Obi or Mace, I dont remember which.

Lord Tenebrous
05-16-2002, 04:53 PM
Ki, Plo, and Aayla were not in the 14 surrounded, but they were some of the first to light their sabers. They were fighting in the interior, then escorted out to the arena with the other Jedi.


Originally, the control ship was supposed to be close to the arena, but that was scrapped for multiple core ships and a merged Separatist battle droid army.

Pendo
05-16-2002, 05:58 PM
I always thought the apple scene was cut, but it was in the movie... Was I wrong in thinking this was cut or did I just see a directors (extra one scene) cut?

Also, the cut of the Jango headbut was obvious. I don't know if its because I knew it should have been there, but Obi-Wan flew backwards without even being touched.

PENDO!

sleth
05-16-2002, 06:16 PM
First of all, I thought the film was great. After it was over I couldn't figure out why I felt it was missing something. Then I realized all that I expected to see that didn't end up in the film. Some things I just read about, others I saw in pictures and videos.

1. Flag that gets stuck on speeder
2. More to the Jango/Mace fight
3. More to the Anakin/Tyranus fight
4. 3P0 w/o coverings
5. Saber tracers from super jedi speed
6. I know there's more, but I just can't think of them now

I do realize a lot of footage was cut for length reasons. Also I heard the versions on digital projectors would differ some how from the regular versions (not just quality wise). Can someone whose seen both tell me what's different?

Pendo
05-16-2002, 06:18 PM
Boba flying away from Geonosis on Slave 1 with Jango Helmet.
Boba removing Jango's head from helmet (only joking).
Check out the cut scenes thread (http://www.sirstevesguide.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7845).

PENDO!

SplFrcsCWO
05-16-2002, 06:18 PM
Originally posted by Dave_Cameron
Is there a DVD in the works already? I heard rumors that it would be coming out in the Fall. I didn't know if that was true. It would be nice, though. I'll have something new to put into my laptop on those long flights!

Yes. It was reported Wednesday. They said the first trilogy won't be released on DVD until after Ep 3.

Battle Droid
05-16-2002, 06:37 PM
I thought I saw Jango head butt Obi-Wan.

Hellzer
05-16-2002, 09:38 PM
I don't understand how the cut scene with Padme putting on C-3P0's coverings fits into the movie when he already had his coverings on when Padme and Anakin first arrived on Tatooine. Am I missing something here?

I was also disappointed that we didn't get to see the supposed assault on the droid control ship with Ki-Adi and Plo Koon. I was really looking forward to seeing Plo Koon in some featured action. The only time I spotted him was after Dooku called off the battle, and he just kinda waltzed in from off screen like he missed all the fighting and was bummed out about it.

I'm pretty sure I saw Jango headbutt Obi-Wan too.

Hellzer
05-16-2002, 09:44 PM
And another thing, wasn't there suppose to be a scene in the arena battle where Jango fires off his flamethrower, but misses whomever he was aiming at and accidentally kills either Nute Gunray or Lott Dodd? I don't remember that happening.

JediTricks
05-17-2002, 01:14 AM
The headbutt was only cut for the UK version, from what I've heard.

I saw SO many spots where Lucas could have trimmed this film down, the opening sequence alone had at least 45 seconds to offer (which is a lot in the desparately-trimming-for-time editing process), yet stuff like more background on Dooku in the Jedi library, including a mention of Qui-Gon being Dooku's former padawan is cut?!? That's dumb, they could easily have kept that part and ditched everything after Obi-Wan looking at the map for the first time, instead the scene with Yoda and the younglings would have provided all the exposition on that issue we needed.

Some strange cuts were in this movie.

Battle Droid
05-17-2002, 01:18 AM
No Dooku says Qui-Gon was his padawan to Obi-Wan on Geonosis.

stillakid
05-17-2002, 01:40 AM
Originally posted by JediTricks
The headbutt was only cut for the UK version, from what I've heard.

I saw SO many spots where Lucas could have trimmed this film down, the opening sequence alone had at least 45 seconds to offer (which is a lot in the desparately-trimming-for-time editing process), yet stuff like more background on Dooku in the Jedi library, including a mention of Qui-Gon being Dooku's former padawan is cut?!? That's dumb, they could easily have kept that part and ditched everything after Obi-Wan looking at the map for the first time, instead the scene with Yoda and the younglings would have provided all the exposition on that issue we needed.

Some strange cuts were in this movie.

I did get a sense that some very important puzzle pieces weren't there. As you know, I'm not up to date on the "spoilers" so I don't have specific info on exactly what was missing, but it is painfully clear throughout that crucial information giving, emotional buildup, and simple transition sequences were cut. I'd prefer a longer movie that makes complete sense to a shorter one that isn't quite as coherent as this was.

JediTricks
05-17-2002, 01:50 AM
Originally posted by Battle Droid
No Dooku says Qui-Gon was his padawan to Obi-Wan on Geonosis. I know he says that there, but I heard that Jocasta Nu discusses that same issue with Obi-Wan in the library in a cut scene.

I think Dooku could have used a little more fleshing out early on.

Stilla, I know what you mean, it's like the Sifo-Dyas issue; everybody was scratching their heads over that one after the film let out. I don't know if there was a piece of the puzzle made, but there SHOULD have been. I don't know if I could have sat through a longer version of this film unless it was WAY more rewarding, but I certainly can think of a ton of worthless stuff I could have cut to make better stuff fit.

Battle Droid
05-17-2002, 01:53 AM
Oooooh, ok got yah. :D

2-1B
05-17-2002, 05:09 AM
I liked most of what I saw, and I would have loved more footage on top of what was there. I literally could have lasted 4 hours in the theater if it meant seeing scenes like the Lost 20/Dooku, Geonosis Trial, and Padme's family.

Croaker
05-17-2002, 08:17 AM
I don't know if you meant cut from or cut for the UK version, but there was no head but in the UK version. (Seen it twice.)

The lost 20 bit is an unfortunate cut.
And does anyone know where the r3-?? (preview fig) scene was supposed to go and what happened in it?

JediTricks
05-18-2002, 03:36 PM
There's a scene on Kamino where Jango head-butts Obi-Wan, this scene was cut for the UK version.

Lman316
05-26-2002, 08:01 PM
Yesterday I picked up that book with the screenplay and all the artwork of Attack of the Clones (cost me $35 too - but I didn't care. I wanted it, so I grabbed it at Media Play...but, uh, that's not the issue at hand here :D) and I read the first couple pages of the screenplay.
Right after the ship blows up and kills Amidala's decoy, there is a session of the Senate, with Palpatine saying how saddened he is by Amidala's death and whatnot. And then Amidala shows up, everyone is gasping and cheering, and then they start arguing about the creation of the army.
Was the filmed and then cut? Or did they just decide not to film it?
I'm sure JJB knows.

Mr. JabbaJohnL
05-26-2002, 08:10 PM
It doesn't seem like it was filmed, but I don't know. Palpatine being sad is in there - "it would be *sniff* unbearable" - and the clone discussion needs not take place. I doubt it.

jedibear
05-26-2002, 11:55 PM
Out of all the scenes that were either rumoured or actually filmed that hit the cutting room floor that I missed are:

Padme's family....but not for the usual reasons everyone's mentioned up to now. I think they would have further established part of the temptation Anakin feels with Padme. Here is the woman he's thought of for the last ten years & she has something he never imagined...a reall family that loves one another, that cares deeply for her & most significantly, opens up to him so easily. From her sister's encouragement to her father's easy acceptance of him, Anakin experiences something he hasn't even experienced at the Jedi Temple...true family.

It's established well in PM that Obi-Wan really only takes on Anakin to fulfill his master's dying wish....Anakin himself heard Obi-Wan argue with Qui_Gon over Anakin's merits, fueling Anakin's need to prove his master (Obi-Wan) & the council "wrong"...always labouring under the idea that he may be the "chosen one"....and when he meets the more "down to earth" (relatively speaking..or "down to Naboo, if you'd like) family of Padme', he sees another alternative to his "duty" as the chosen one or as Obi-Wan's charge.....

Jek Porky 2002
06-09-2002, 08:45 AM
This'll probably get merged now.
But, I noticed that there where alot of things in the final cut of AOTC that we heard of in production, that weren't there such as, Tyranus using two lightabers, C-3PO starting off as he did in Episode I and Padme attaching his coverings while Anakin is away and Padme's family on Naboo they where on the cast list on starwars.com for over a year before release but not in the film, if I remember rightly they where called Pooja, Jobal, Ruwe... ah I cant think of the rest, but you catch my drift. Oh yeah, and Owen handing 3PO over to Anakin as they leave.

If there are any more, which there more than likely are, I'd love to here about them.

DarthMaulSithLord
06-09-2002, 08:59 AM
I just read somewhere else on this board that there was a shot on Kamino where Jango headbutts Obi-Wan.

:)

Jek Porky 2002
06-09-2002, 09:03 AM
That was only cut from the British version but I think it's still in the American version.

MikeAndTheBots
06-09-2002, 09:24 AM
Some of Obi-Wan fighting Dooku had to have been cut. There's no way that was the entire fight with that choppy of an editing time. Since it was the longest of the movies (so far) Lucas probably didn't want anything too long. Although duels are some of the coolest parts of the movie.

On a side note I also heard that we see more of Anakin slaying the Tuskens but I just heard that, no clue if it's true.

Lman316
06-09-2002, 11:50 AM
There was also to have been another Senate scene towards the beginning of the movie. However, I don't know if this scene was actually filmed or not.
I've brought this up before, so someone tell me if they're tired of hearing it :crazed:, but the scene happened right after Amidala's ship blew up. There was a session of the senate called and Palpatine was explaining what happened to Amidala. He expresses his sadness for her death and then he brings up the notion of the army again. Orn Free Taa interjects, saying that the Republic needs an army and then Amidala shows up. People are gasping, some are cheering that she's still alive; Palpatine says how happy he is to see her still among the living and then Amidala goes after Orn about the creation of the army. She brings up some points and I think the screenplay said that some booed her and others clapped.
Once I get a chance to go through the entire screenplay, I could post some other scenes here. If they already haven't been mentioned by that time.

End :).

Exhaust Port
06-09-2002, 12:21 PM
Lman316, that would have been quite a twist to add to the plot. The movie would have been totally different with the addition of that scene.

LTBasker
06-09-2002, 01:07 PM
I think there was also a scene during JJB's senate scene where he was trying to put it all like a regular human speech but slips some gungan style in there and everyone starts laughing at him then he grasps the railing and finishes off his speech like he started.

2-1B
06-09-2002, 01:27 PM
Obi-Wan pulling the wires from the assassin droid and then having to reactivate it. If you watch the droid, you'll see the wires hanging down in some shots. They should have digitally painted those wires out, IMO. :)

LTBasker
06-09-2002, 01:40 PM
Oh yeah, wasn't there that whole sequence of Plo Koon leading a team on a control ship and the droids deactivating for a little in the Arena and then reactivating?

Jek Porky 2002
06-09-2002, 02:19 PM
That's still in there, Dooku does it for a while but when he finds out the Jedi won't co-operate he reactivates them.

saladin
06-09-2002, 05:58 PM
Jek the scene when padme putting coverings wasn't shown cause it wasn't done, in the book it was shimi who put coverings on him.

LTBasker
06-09-2002, 06:41 PM
Originally posted by saladin
Jek the scene when padme putting coverings wasn't shown cause it wasn't done, in the book it was shimi who put coverings on him.

That's an obvious earlier script change after that part of the book was written since Shmi was gone from the beginning so it would've had to of been Padme putting the coverings on 3PO which was supposed to take place while they were waiting for Anakin.

JediTricks
06-10-2002, 12:40 AM
3PO was filmed as a "naked" puppet as well as a "dressed" one, so the scene has at least SOME footage existing somewhere.

2-1B
06-10-2002, 12:43 AM
Yes, I recall Anthony Daniels talking about having to learn to work as a puppeteer with the uncovered Threepio.

Jargo
06-10-2002, 08:28 PM
Anthony Daniels can be seen talking about how they filmed the coverings going on in one of the making of documentary segments. There's footage of him in the garage set with most of the suit on and George says we won't see the mask going on but we'll go from the puppet Anthony manipulated to the suited Anthony just like the way the shooting script has it laid out, padme puts the coverings on while Anakin is out looking for Shmi because padme is bored and anxious about him so she passes the time doing 3PO's coverings and then Owen tells her she should take 3PO almost like he believes Shmi won't be coming back for him. Or that he sees the burgeoning romance between the two lovers before it actually happens and assumes that Anakin and Padme are a couple so the droid would be a joint owned thing and its ok to give to padme what should by rights be Anakins.
Either way, they filmed the scenes but my reckoning is that it looked crap because the puppet was too heavy for Anthony to handle (he did fall over under its weight while filming) or the edit of the movie was such that it took too long and they simplified the sequence.

LTBasker
06-10-2002, 09:25 PM
Or it made them fall asleep during the test screenings... :D

Jargo
06-11-2002, 03:47 PM
the fact that the cardback for C-3PO protocol droid says that he gets his coverings when padme and Anakin visit Tatooine kinda gives the game away that the scenes were filmed otherwise hasbro wouldn't have invested so much time and money into developing a useless toy would they? There must be some stills somewhere that hasbro used to make the toy, including the crate for the spare parts.

Tycho
06-11-2002, 04:35 PM
Don't knock that figure though! (I couldn't tell if you were).

C-3PO is one of my favorite E2 figures and it is Threepio's best 3 3/4" one.

Jargo
06-11-2002, 06:48 PM
Actually i bought it today, just for the crate it packs with. i threw the figure away. The panels didn't fit and the plastic looked cheap and nasty. The deluxe 3PO is so much better looking. Plus it can actually hold things which makes it the best 3PO ever in my opinion. now all we need is for 3PO to come with knees and I'll be set. :) it'll be interesting to see the complaints about 3PO start when Hasbro starts making episode three 3PO's out of the horrible plastic that the chewbacca cloud city capture pack in 3PO is made from. Sort of yellow green vinyl instead of chromed hard plastic. That's not good and doesn't bode well for future 3PO releases.

But that's a side note to this thread. here's a pic of Anthony operating the puppet threepio and then filming in the garage set, or rather preparing to film. it's a bit grainy but I can't think of any other scene they'd be filming in the garage but the coverings going on. :happy:

Tycho
06-11-2002, 07:08 PM
You know, personally I think the SuperBattleDroid isn't really that great of figure, but I need about 9 more of them for my Battle of Geonosis scene I'm making. They're easy to come by, but if this figure is as crappy as I think it is, maybe you should open one to see if you agree. Then when you're ready to throw it out, please just send it to me :happy:

Now, let's talk about other figures you may throw out...

Wait just one second and let me get out my want list....

Jargo
06-11-2002, 07:21 PM
Tycho, I love the super battle droid even though it's made of cheapo plastic and falls apart. And won't stand up straight and won't stand with the big gun arm attached. It doesn't use the big gun arm in the movie so trash that straight away. The super battle droid is cool in a diorama. I have four right now and plan on getting another six. The only other figure I'll be throwing away is Anakin OPD. I just want the box thing that packs with him. The figure is pants. Oh, and the Anakin deluxe with slashing action. That's poopy but the slice and dice Geonosian is excellent. :)

Perhaps this should move to the saga section hmmm? ;)

LTBasker
06-11-2002, 07:58 PM
The SBD can stand with the huge gun arm, you just gotta posistion his feet. Frankly I think it's pathetic they couldn't articulate him better, he's got the perfect joints! Just like the Battle Droid and his non-articulated knees. The SBD could've been jointed at the knees and ankles, which would've made it a great great figure IMO.

Darth Yambag
06-16-2002, 11:38 PM
I'd like to see any scenes from Plo Koon and Ki Adi Mundi on a droid control ship. I believe these were filmed and we see them lead to the circle in the arena with the other Jedi.

It may not go anymore with the plot, but I'd like to see how these guys fight.

Plus, More of the Mace v. Jango fight. from the leaked story boards, it seemed like a longer fight but there wasn't much to it.

Maybee more Yoda v. Dooku with dooku's 2 lightsabers...

Tycho
06-17-2002, 02:40 AM
You know, while we do see Dooku's ship leave Geonosis and there is a Federation freighter ship, there are a lot of the center section ones (the balls) on the ground.

The droids could be controlled by one of those grounded ships and perhaps that's where Plo Koon and Ki-Adi Mundi were supposed to have been. (as in they traced the droids' homing signals to one of those grounded ships.

However, the SuperBattleDroids I think are "wireless" and can receive commands from many locations. If the old BattleDroids can now as well, how could Plo and Ki even begin to determine which of the grounded ships to hit?

If the ship was in space (that was controlling the droids in their initial reading of the situation), why were they captured and not just killed outright? Furthermore, why were they brought down to the surface with all the trouble that would involve (containing and controlling Jedi while transporting them when they would most likely be executed anyway).

Finally, if it was during the time that Dooku offered Windu a chance to surrender, Mace refused to cave in and was determined to fight his way out in a lot less time than it would take to transport Ki and Plo Koon down to the surface from space.

So therefore, if they were on the surface, how the heck could they think that hitting one of 12+ Federation balls would knock out the droid control signal?

The Federation's set up is bad from the get-go though, I'd point out. Suppose they double-cross each other? If droids can receive signals from multiple sources, somebody else can take control over them - probably including ones aboard Nute's command ship even. - They'd thank the Federation for providing them with a commandeered army and Niemoidian hostages!

Remember, the Trade Federation included Sullustan, Gran, Corellian, and Duro invested owners as well (according to official backstory). To win their allegiance, Sidious had Maul eliminate Nute's rivals in the Federation so he'd rise to power if he did exactly as Sidious said. Furthermore, if Naboo signed the Treaty, the Trade Federation would represent them in the Senate. They could be instructed by Sidious to support Palpatine for Chancellor (during TPM). Nobody seems to have thought about that in threads I've seen on that subject.

Anyway, that's not what this thread is about. It's about lost scenes in AOTC, but it just prompted me to think about the other stuff.

2-1B
06-17-2002, 01:33 PM
I'm so glad they didn't go with the "droid control ship" part of the battle, I think it works better that Ki and the boys are seen igniting their sabers with everyone else and going at it.

Were those shots added later? We don't see too much of them in the arena
battle . . .

JediTricks
06-17-2002, 06:18 PM
Tycho, in Ep 1, there were a bunch of Trade Fed battleships, but only ONE of those ships was the droid control ship. That was the one with all the antenna dishes on the outer ring. So it would only take knocking out the ship with those dishes to kill the droid control signal.