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TheBigSloppy
05-14-2002, 11:43 AM
Has anyone else thought about this?

What I mean is that if EPI and II predates the trilogy, then one would imagine that we would see a step back in technology and design.

Look at the X-Wing for instance - extremely geometric in design - rather crude looking machine (but freakin cool though!). Yet in the prequels we are introduced to its predecessor, the Naboo Fighter, which is sleak, aerodynamic and finely designed. Same goes for the Royal Starship.

Let's face it, these things should have been clunkers - the Yugos of rebel ships. Instead, the designers chose to give a fresh, updated look and break the continuity between the prequels and sequels.

A REVERSE CASE IN POINT
Imagine if the upcoming Star Trek: Nemesis film used the Enterprise from the original 60s series. Heck, that would probably make for a pretty cool story line though!

bigbarada
05-14-2002, 11:50 AM
Look at the sleek cars and trucks made in the 1950s and 60s compared to the boxy designs of the 1980s.

In any case, the OT takes place during a period of SW history equivalent to our middle ages. Where technology and learning actually start to move backwards. If you would take the time to study our own history, then you will see that technological advancement rarely moves at a constant rate forward as we have seen in the last century. In fact, in many cases it takes great leaps backwards then slowly creeps forward along a very different path.

IcebergSlim
05-14-2002, 11:59 AM
My dad keeps saying the same thing. "It's supposed to be before the original ones, but everything looks more advanced."

Masterjedi73
05-14-2002, 12:00 PM
You'll remember, though, when Obi-Wan gave Luke the lightsaber that he said it was "an elegant weapon, from a more civilized time".

I think that the technology probably was more crude in ep 4,5,6 on purpose.....besides, who knows how much money the Rebellion had in their budget for streamlined vehicles!

Dryanta
05-14-2002, 12:09 PM
I see the apparent backwards movement of the technology as a very evident effect of the being under the iron fist of the empire.
The rebelion is a rag tag group of thrown together people and technology.How much of the streamlined and modern equipment gets wasted in the Clone Wars?Don't know yet.

TheBigSloppy
05-14-2002, 12:09 PM
Originally posted by Masterjedi73
...besides, who knows how much money the Rebellion had in their budget for streamlined vehicles!

Or how much LucasFilm had in their budget for that matter. Twas piddly compared to todays blockbuster standards.

Beast
05-14-2002, 12:09 PM
BigB is as usual, correct. The 1950's and 1960's design sense for everything was much more artistic and streamlined then stuff we see now adays. Exactly the same thing is clearly visible in the prequels in comparison to the OT. And it's starting to move twords that in E2.

Beauty and Artistic influence during the time of the Empire is somthing that is against the ideal of a vast cookie cutter army. You can start to see that by comparing the Naboo uniforms with the CloneTroopers. And the rebellion ships are built to just get the job done, produced in mass quantities to keep them flowing. No time and need for the ships to be pretty, they just need to get the job done.

MTFBWY and HH!!

Jar Jar Binks

JEDIpartner
05-14-2002, 12:11 PM
This point has been explained over and over again by the designers at LFL. There was a little more care and craftsmanship in the period we are seeing in the prequels. Creating a "beautiful looking" ship was an artform. Ships made during the time of the Rebellion were supposed to be prudent and purposeful. They were designed to get a job done, not to be aesthetically pleasing.

Also, if you compare a luxury sedan to a military vehicle you'll see a huge difference in design. It's really not that difficult to see.

Landspeeders certainly haven't changed much. So it really is relative to the type of vehicle and its purpose.

aaaaand... this thread needs to be moved to the "Episode II- films" section.

bigbarada
05-14-2002, 12:16 PM
It also has a lot to do with culture. Naboo, Cloud City and the Mon Calamari were all very cosmopolitan, artistic cultures; that is why their designs are so similar. The Rebel ships were slapped together like a galactic episode of Junkyard Wars. The Empire was concerned with simple, cold efficiency; which allowed no room for artistic stylings.

pthfnder89
05-14-2002, 12:51 PM
Originally posted by bigbarada
It also has a lot to do with culture. Naboo, Cloud City and the Mon Calamari were all very cosmopolitan, artistic cultures; that is why their designs are so similar. The Rebel ships were slapped together like a galactic episode of Junkyard Wars. The Empire was concerned with simple, cold efficiency; which allowed no room for artistic stylings.

Very true. Plus the economy propably has a lot to do with it.

During the Old Republic, there is pretty much a free economy, where buisnesses hold a lot of power. when the Empire takes over, all the buisnesses must answer to them.

A lot of the ship designers probably have military contracts with the Empire and so all of thier new designs and inventions have to cater to the Empire, not the civilian consumer. That means new designs are more practical, less beautiful.

mark2d2
05-14-2002, 01:14 PM
Again, as said by many already. Just look at our own automobiles. The vehicles from the 1940s are Rounded and Sleek with Tons of Chrome. By the 1970s they had all become hideously unstylish boxes.