View Full Version : Question - where are the Pentagon pics of impact?

09-14-2001, 08:15 AM
While I loathe seeing the same damned footage of planes smashing into the WTC buildings and people jumping out of windows and people fleeing in terror as dust clouds cover them in pitch blackness over and over and over (MSNBC being the worst of the lot for me, every time I turned that channel on for news the first 2 days they'd be showing their "exclusive footage" of the 2nd jet plunging into the WTC from the angle of impact -- a gruesome scene), I am wondering where the footage of the Pentagon being hit is, or even pics of the 757 circling before impact which was reported as pointed at by Secret Service men on the lawn of the White House.

I mean, it took less than 24 hours for media sources to find footage of the first plane smashing into the WTC (something which, before I had seen it, I thought we'd most likely never get a look at and media outlets would simply show stupid computer recreations of that first impact), but no footage has surfaced from Washington DC from before to during the impact, just pictures after the terrible hit. I don't really want to see more images of the carnage, but were there really no videos or snapshots of the attack on the Pentagon or is the government keeping those locked down for some particular reason (possibly for intelligence or investigative reasons)?

09-14-2001, 08:30 AM
Considering how many tourists visit DC everyday, you'd think someone would have at least taken a picture of the plane before it crashed.

El Chuxter
09-14-2001, 11:03 AM
I'd think anything from a security camera would be classified, and the Pentagon is just far enough outside Washington that tourists usually haven't bothered going over there. (You've got the White House, Capitol, Library of Congress, the Smithsonian, and countless monuments in one place, or the Pentagon across the river--a lot of people don't make it over there.)

As for the first WTC tower, I got the impression from the bit at the beginning of the tape and the professional manner in which the camera followed the plane that it was a local station doing coverage on some sort of street repair.

Just two bits of speculation on my part.

09-14-2001, 11:26 AM
Its very unlikely that we will ever see footage of the plane that crashed in the pentagon, while D.C. has their share of tourists, it would never be like the big apple. Now if there is a video, it would be a camera of the U.S. government and i dont think they will share that with the media.

09-14-2001, 11:36 AM
I read in the paper that some of the professional pics of the second crash in Tower 2 were shot by the producers of the PAX show "Doc" They were in NYC for location shots.

After the first incident was noted in Tower 1, many eyes were alerted to the WTC and therefore many did catch the 2nd crash on film. I'd imagine it was planned that way, wanting to capture the atrocity on film to give the most impact of the terrorist act.

In the case of the Pentagon, it is perhaps as has been stated, official film has been held back for now, but it's also possible that there just wasn't anyone taking photos at that crucial moment.

09-14-2001, 10:16 PM
Theres probably footage out there somewhere, someone had to be filming it that day, If there was its probably being held. r2dee2, I like you picture :)

09-15-2001, 01:07 PM
GNT...yes I like that pic too. I don't know who did it, but it's been going around the net and seemed to capture the sentiment.

It's just surprising to me that if there were Pentagon pics, that they haven't surfaced yet. All the pics of the Towers were immediately shown, the Pentagon should be no different. I guess time will tell.

Rollo Tomassi
09-16-2001, 12:45 AM
A thought occured to me while I was watching all the different shots of the Tragedy at the WTC. That the terrorists knew it was going to happen and had people wating with video cameras all over the city waiting to film it at different angles for some kind of sick kick and bragging rights or something...and then turning the footage over to the different news stations. Did anybody else think of this possibility?

09-16-2001, 06:09 AM
UPDATE: On the news I saw, I saw part of the Pentagon fall down, no plane(...that I saw) but at least its different

Probably taken after the impact,I'll pay more attention next time :)

09-16-2001, 11:31 PM
I've visited Washington DC a couple times, and have been to the pentagon. Our Tourist guide told us there are secruity cameras facing all 5 sides of the building 24hours a day, there's gotta be footage, i just think they are keeping it so you cant see into the higher security rings of the pentagon

03-08-2002, 09:58 PM
The first footage has been released. These aren't full-motion video like the WTC footage, but they are shots. Seeing this ground attack here is really disturbing, and in a sorta different way than the WTC hits (not saying MORE disturbing or LESS disturbing, but definitely somewhat different), I wonder if that is why it was held back for 6 months.


03-08-2002, 10:35 PM
Of course this is pure speculation on my part, or as I like to label it, a "spoiler" :) , (sorry, couldn't help myself), but perhaps the government felt that if "terrorists" got a good look at how the initial impact actually happened, then they could concoct some way of "improving" the damage with another attempt down the road. Maybe they're releasing the photos now because they feel that that threat has disappated.

Or maybe the Fotomat just lost them until now. :D

Dar' Argol
03-09-2002, 12:06 AM
I just saw the security camera pics and this ticks me off to know end!!!These F@@@s say the USA is evil, that we got what was comming, that they will not rest until America is destroyed! Well F@@@ you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! These cowardic bast@@@@ who hid in caves and think they do everything according to Allah. Scr@@ you!!!!!!!!! SOB's!!!!!!!! I will be the first to admit that America is not perfect, we are far, far from it. BUT there is not other place I would rather live, no other place I would feel proud to call home. Then these stupid F@@@s have to come over, kill thousands of CILVILLIANS!!!!!!!!!! Not millitary, CIVLILLIANS!!!!!!!!!!!! The worst part of this whole deal right now is we do not even know if that lower the the dirt dust mites on the bottom of a roaches crap pile SOB bin Laden is alive or dead.

I hope he's alive and we capture him. Then we should bring him to Ground Zero, strap 300 M80's all over him and light each one off, one at a time. Then take salt and bleach, pour it all over him, castrate him, unleash a hoard of fireants on him, while at the same time, pulling out all of his fignernails and toenails with a pair of pliers. THEN we let the family of the victims have him. BUT they have one rule, they CANNOT kill him. You'd be surprized what people can live through. Then and only then will he begin to understand what he had done to this country!!!!

Rat Bast@@@, SOB, stupid F@@@!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!aaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrgggggggg ggggggggghhhhhaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It really ticks(insert proper word here)me off!!!
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Dar' Argol
03-09-2002, 12:10 AM
Sorry about that post, after I saw the pics it just . . . . . well, anyway, I'm sorry:(

03-09-2002, 12:11 AM
I was in NYC last June visiting and I stood right in front of the WTC. These 2 collossal buildings were awesome structures, and looking up at them from the street was truly a memorable moment for me.
I can only imagine what it was like on the morning of 9/11 when they fell to the ground. You see just standing there admiring them on a regular day in NYC was powerful enough for me, but just to think what it was like on that horrific day is just beyond my comprehension. To be there and see people jumping to their deaths, and to see the devestation and the chaos all around.
It brings tears to my eyes....
How could someone do this? What kind of sick mind thinks up a plan like this? Obviously we know who is responsible, but I just cant imagine what kind of capacity it takes to do this and not even feel remorse for it.

03-09-2002, 11:42 AM
The world is full of sick and demented people, like the guy who kidnapped that girl in San Diego a few weeks ago. It boggles the mind and, unfortunately, no matter how many laws we pass, and no matter how vigilant we try to be, these twisted beasts will continue to perform their unbelievable acts of cruelty.

master jedi
03-09-2002, 01:12 PM
I've attached an overhead view of the pentagon if anybody is interested.

Dar' Argol
03-09-2002, 02:54 PM
Master Jedi, that is a great overhead pic . . . not of the damage, just the pic is really cool. Where did you get something like that?

master jedi
03-09-2002, 09:06 PM
Originally posted by Dar' Argol
Master Jedi, that is a great overhead pic . . . not of the damage, just the pic is really cool. Where did you get something like that?

My brother found it. I don't know where he got it or who gave it to him.

I have an overhead view of the world trade center in NYC but it's too big to attach to the post. I'll upload it to my web site sometime so you can see it.

03-09-2002, 09:37 PM
Spaceimaging.com (http://www.spaceimaging.com). they're on there somewhere.

03-09-2002, 09:43 PM
found it. Media Imagery (http://www.spaceimaging.com/carterra/images/default.htm)

Dar' Argol
03-09-2002, 10:33 PM
Thanx guys, I've been looking for a site like this. A friend told me there is one where you can order free space pics of anything in the world. This isn't it, but its still cool:D

03-10-2002, 02:09 PM
hey, i heard of that site too. email or PM me if you ever find it. good luck though, ive been looking for a long time.