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Super BattleFisto
05-22-2002, 09:26 PM
Jedi Master Obi-Wan Kanobi is locked in a duel with a black masked Sith Lord in a hanger high above a run down sector of the city-planet Corusant. Senator Padme Amidala is watching the fight from a distance, her eyes struggling to keep pace with the movement of the two lighting-fast combatants.
After a long and fierce back and forth battle Obi-Wan manages to knock his black clad opponent to the ground. Both Padme and Obi-Wan stare in shock as the Siths' helmet falls off to reveal her husband and his former apprentice, Anakin Shywalker. Anakins' face is almost unrecognizable to them, as it is twisted in the sickening smirk of a man corrupted by the Dark Side of the Force.
Anakin Force-pushes his dumfounded former master to the edge of the landind platform. Obi-Wan lands hard on his back with a thud. His lightsaber falls out of his hand, slides acrooss the floor, and falls over the edge of the platform. Anakin wills his own red-colored blade into his hand and runs over to the prone Obi-Wan. He raises his weapon over his fallen mentors' head, ready to deliver the kill blow.
Obi-Wan- (Looking up at Anakin) I'm sorry I wasn't able to give you the guidance you needed, Anakin. (He lloks into the tempast raging in his once pupils visage. He closes his eyes.) I forgive you.
Just as it looks as if Anakin is about to slash Obi-Wan in half, Padme pulls her blaster from her holster and aims it at her crazed mate. Sensin this, Anakin turns to look at her. His face is a mask of hate and anger, bearing only a passing resemblance to the man she pledged her love to. Tears welling in her eyes, she closes them and pulls the trigger, hitting the disbelieving Anakin Skywalker dead center in the chest.

Super BattleFisto
05-22-2002, 10:12 PM
Anakin is knocked over the edge of the hanger by the force of the blast. He is aboout to fall to the surface of the planet many stories below, but Obi-Wan manages to catch him by quickly grabbig his right arm. Anakin is still clutching his lightsaber in his left hand.
Anakin looks down to see a pool of molten lava at the end of a miles long drop beneath him. He looks up at Padme, her blaster still in her hand. Realizing that she was willing to shoot him makes him understand how much he has changed since he embraced the Dark Side and became a Sith Lord. His face goes from one of anger to one of regret. Seeing this gives Obi-Wan hope that ther is somne good left in Anakin.
Obi-Wan- Anakin, listen to me. It's not too late. Let me help you up. Together you and I can defeat Palpatine and end thais madness. We can restore the Republic and bring order back to the galaxy.
Anakin- It's too late-
Obi-Wan- -It's not too late-
Anakin- -It's too late for that. Take Padme and hide somewhere where they won't find you. Don't come back.
Obi-Wan is struggling to maintain his grip on Anakins' arm.
Obi-Wan- Anakin, I won't let you fall.
Anakin looks down to the lava below and then back up at Obi-Wan.
Anakin- You're too late to stop that. (Looks over to the teary-eyed Padme.) Ialready have
Anakin takes the lightsaber in his left hand and svers his right (human) arm at the elbow. He plummets into the lake of fire below as Obi-Wan looks on in horror.
Padme- Anni! No!
Padme rushes to the spot where her lover fell. Obi-Wan restrains her to stop her from going over the edge.
Obi-Wan- Padme, stop,he's gone. I'm sorry.
Padme buries her face in the Jedis' tunic and begin to sob. Obi-Wan holds her close and he, too, starts to cry.
Obi-Wan- I failed him.
Padme- No. He failed himself.

Eternal Padawan
05-22-2002, 11:04 PM
Can you see something miles below (or above) you? His right arm is the mechanical one.
The dialogue is nice though. "He failed himself." Sounds a bit like something Yoda would say. I like the parallel between Anakin letting go and Luke letting go in ESB. I've always thought thats how the battle will play out.

For other theories how Episode III will play out look at Tycho's "Story for Episode III" thread and the gargantuan "Mace's Death" thread (specifically post #106)

Tycho
05-23-2002, 06:08 AM
Nice work SuperBattle Fisto!

I liked what you wrote. I could see it played out this way, but why is Anakin wearing a mask before he's requiring the life support Vader's helmet gives him?

A Crimson Guard's helmet? To be invisible yet close to protect Palpatine?

What made him go to the Dark Side? If Padme is safe (obviously she's at least armed) what motivates Anakin to be pushed to the brink? Where's Palpatine while this is happening?

These are the questions we have to answer while speculating I suppose (if that's what you wanted to do) and ultimately, George has to answer while he's finishing the screenplay.

If you just wanted to script the scene though - great job! I was visualizing this in my mind like a comic book sequence and it just seemed to flow right.

Thanks for sharing.

Super BattleFisto
05-23-2002, 04:53 PM
The mask idea is something I swiped from 'Braveheart'. The way I seee it, Anakin keeps his identity of Anakin Skywalker, Jedi Kight after thowing in with Palpatine so he can spy on the Jedis location and plans and report back to his master. He wears a black mask and uses a different fighting style as Darth ____ (I don't want him calling himself Vader till after he has to use the like support armor) when he makes his rounds as a Sith Lord. I think its more dramatic if Obi-Wan finds his pupil has gone over to the Dark Side after he's seen his actions as Sidious' right hand man.
The miles up part might be an exageration. Ithink they're about as high up as they were in the chase sceen in AOTC. You could see some lava on the surface onf the planet once when the camera paned down. Maybe super telescopic vision is a Jedi power? I just want it there sa Anakin can be cast alive into a lake of fire (Revalation 20:20). This is supposed to be Armageddon, after all.

sith_killer_99
05-23-2002, 05:09 PM
I would change the location. It's difficult to find molten lava on a city-planet. Heck, they don't even have oceans on Coruscant.

I like the way you played it out though. ;)

MikeAndTheBots
05-23-2002, 05:15 PM
Originally posted by sith_killer_99
I would change the location. It's difficult to find molten lava on a city-planet. Heck, they don't even have oceans on Coruscant.

I like the way you played it out though. ;)
but there is lava on the surface, we saw it in ep2.

Tycho
05-23-2002, 06:19 PM
OK, we did not see lava on the surface.

First off, on Coruscant's surface - which we have never seen,
there is no power. No generators, nothing works down there. It is ruins that the newer stuff has been built over for thousands of years. Subhuman creatures live down there which are only half-intelligent.

In fact, it is many levels up from there that is the underworld that we still haven't seen. We saw the hidden scandalous side in the nightclub - but there was mostly humans in there, as well as some Twi'lek and other upperclass aliens that went to hide while they were sleasing it in the 'red light district.' This was the Gary Condit / Bill Clinton part of the underworld, not the Charles Manson / David Koresh level.

The surface is much darker than any of that - and like I said, intelligent life doesn't exist down there - or it doesn't survive. There are giant mutated granite worms - think Tremors or some of the large stuff you saw in the preview for Men in Black II, etc.

Now at the inner core of most planets, there is molten lava. At the center of the earth there is, that makes volcanos. So maybe Darth Sidious has a secret passage down there, to the firery depths of Hell, below even the most vile underworld, with demons and mutated beasts guarding an another underworld beneath that - beings so instinctively primal that not even the Sith can govern them.

UNDERNEATHE THAT, physically under Coruscant's earth, there is a molten core. There you will find lava.

I'm not making this up. Part of it is material from any basic geology class in high school, the other part of it is all the collected work from Essential Guides, the Official Site, and everything else EU that describes Coruscant. The lowest any of the novels took us was Darth Maul: Shadow Stalker. In the Jedi Academy Books, toddlers Jaina and Jacen Solo did not even get that low - as no two-to-three year olds, even Force-sensitive ones could've ever survived THAT!

So even if one were to fall off a building in Coruscant and have a clear path down to the surface, they would not hit lava. (Just look like a puddle of it when they landed).

Now there are the firery refinery flares we saw during the speeder chase sequence and when Darth Tyranus returns home to Coruscant. But I like the firery depths of Hell like in the original Ralph McQuarrie pictures much better.

Finally, I do not believe Anakin will run around practicing subterfuge and spying on the Jedi after he's allied with the Sith.

Anakin is a character who tries to do good and it ends up bad. He's motivated to save his mom, can't, so he's emotionally distraught and takes revenge. He will pledge to protect his wife, fail (likely because he goes on a Jedi mission) and then further blame the Jedi and specifically Obi-Wan. Since he's most likely disciplined by the Jedi for breaking his oath and taking a bride, he's either quit or kicked out. Palpatine offers him a job so he can stay close to his pregnant wife who refuses to leave the Senate. I'm pretty sure that some self-blame for the war is on Padme's chest, and she wants to be there to set things right again - pregnant or not. She knows what's important. So Anakin will lose loyalty to the Jedi (but maybe not Obi-Wan yet) and stick by Palpatine and Padme's side. Take Padme away from him and give Obi-Wan a reason to be blamed for it (like Anakin going to rescue him from Dooku) and then all Anakin has left is Palpatine. Then have Obi-Wan claim to want to take down Palpatine (once he knows the truth), and Anakin will fight Obi-Wan with all his pent-up anger. Palpatine will be there during the fight. Padme must be absent and believed to be dead (by Anakin). The loss of his 1) mother, 2) Wife, 3) unborn child (don't think they know there's twins) and 4) trust with his mentor (Obi-Wan) and 5) innocense as killing Dooku may mean killing his own father (MAY mean that) - would all drive Anakin over the edge.

See my Episode 3 - the complete story thread for more details (this forum).

That's how I think it will all play out.

Anakin acts on emotion and rage. He has no ability to be subtle and to spy or act covertly. He wears his heart on his sleave and that's a big part of his troubles.

While he might wear a Royal Guardsman mask in his service to Palpatine, I see him employed more as the Chancellor's Force-sensitve advisor and protector (like Sly Moore assists Palpatine now). This way Palpatine can patronize Anakin's ego and lure him into ends-justify-the-means thinking, and dark knowledge.

chewie
05-23-2002, 08:26 PM
Something happens to ruin the jedi and senatorial careers of Padme and Anakin.... Anakin goes in league with Palpatine as a body guard or royal guard. Obi-Wan is framed by Dooku for the apparent murder of Padme (who doesn't die). Obi-Wan confronts Anakin, and beats him, fatally injuring him. Palpatine plops Anakin into a robo-suit. Dooku is betrayed by Palpatine and now faces Anakin again. Anakin, filled with dark side rage over the faked death of Padme, his defeat by Obi-Wan whom he thinks murdered Padme, and for his sliced off arm by Dooku turns good ol' Tyrannus into sliced ham. This fully makes Anakin the new sith lord and he goes about killing all the jedi at the very tail end of the movie.

I honestly think that we will see the transformation or nearly full transformation of Anakin into Vader in the last movie. Its what the prequels have been created to do. Like it or not.

Darth Nihilus
05-24-2002, 09:58 AM
I like the idea of Padme saving Obi-Wan's bacon, but there's no way you can show Anakin showing regret before he 'dies' as it would clash with the Darth characterisation of the OT. I'm also not a fan of this idea of Obi-Wan and Anakin fighting over a lava pit. That's just ridiculous. There are other ways for Obi to mangle Anakin. I should also add that I like the idea of seeing a new Sith parading around as Darth Vader early in the film then being revealed as Anakin at the end.

jblodgett
05-24-2002, 12:09 PM
I think Obiwan has to battle Anakin, not a "dark masked jedi" Because as of the end of EpII, Anakin has not "turned" yet....

The lava pit has been reported for decades-- i.e. Vader has to use special breathing devices because of injuries he sustained when he fell into a lava pit after fighting Obiwan.

And Vader does say, "We meet again at last, when I last left you I was but the learner, now I am the master." So that would seem to me to mean that when Anakin and Obiwan last met, Anakin was still the padawan apprentice of Obiwan.

Of course, Lucas hasn't exactly followed any type of continuity since this whole movie series began... why start now?

Jedi Clint
05-24-2002, 12:20 PM
Originally posted by jblodgett
I think Obiwan has to battle Anakin, not a "dark masked jedi" Because as of the end of EpII, Anakin has not "turned" yet....


I agree. His fight with Kenobi is what really destroys "Anakin Skywalker" and allows Darth Vader to rise from his ashes.