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Lobito
09-17-2001, 08:34 PM
while Darth Maul seems to be a better combatant than Darth Vader, Darth Vader has his choke hold. who wins?? Hmmm...i think Vader would win but just for sympathy...we all know MAUL would win that one.

Your Thoughts...

logam
09-17-2001, 08:39 PM
I'm going to agree with you on this lobito, Darth Maul definetely will win, he is younger, physically stronger and definetely cooler than the Vader
Good Post

bigbarada
09-17-2001, 09:43 PM
Okay, for starters, what is each man's motivation? Maul is driven by a sort of abstract sense of revenge, since he probably wasn't around when the Sith were silenced by themselves/the Jedi. Kind of like a fighter in a religious war that's been going on for centuries. Vader is driven by a very real, very recent hatred. The revenge he wants is of a much more personal kind, the kind that won't let him be taken out by an upstart apprentice.

Next, tactics: Maul simply has an in your face, up close and personal style that demands quick reflexes and expert skills. Plus he has the deadly double-bladed lightsaber. Vader has more of a stand back and wear down the enemy from afar style, he is not hesitant to use objects to subdue his enemy with little strain on his physical resources.

Brains: Maul has diplayed little reliance on these. Vader is cold, calculating and sensible. He pursues his goals with little regard for distractions, which is what he'd consider Maul to be.

Honor: These are Sith Lords, doesn't apply.

With this said, I believe Vader would not even ignite his lightsaber to deal with Maul. If Maul somehow managed to get the drop on him (which Ep1 established is impossible since Anakin sees things before they happen) Vader would Force Push him against a wall, pelt him with surrounding objects to wear him down then Force choke him to death.

Vader would win by brains alone. Sorry, Maul fans, the tattooed one doesn't stand a chance.

Lobito
09-17-2001, 09:54 PM
Yep, vader would choke him b4 Maul could reach his lightsaber, now if they both fought with sabers, that would turn up to be pretty interesting...

bigbarada
09-17-2001, 10:08 PM
Maul would be too eager to show off his flashy fighting style. Vader is much more relaxed and confident, he has nothing to prove to anybody. Plus, Vader knows his own limitations; Maul doesn't seem to think he has any.

master jedi
09-17-2001, 10:29 PM
Originally posted by logam
I'm going to agree with you on this lobito, Darth Maul definetely will win, he is younger, physically stronger and definetely cooler than the Vader
Good Post
Well Vader is mostly machine so this is tough to argue.


I think Vader would win because Vader is stronger in the force. If Maul comes running up with his lightsaber in hand all Vader would have to do is use the Force to crush Maul like a fly.

Brave Sir Robin
09-17-2001, 10:42 PM
Well, considering that Darth Maul was killed before Darth Vader had even gone through puberty, i assume there would have to be a certain amount of time-warping and Marvel Comic style "were both bad guys/good guys so let's fight for no reason" in such a battle. Darth Maul would probably have an advantage over Vader being younger, stronger and faster. Vader was able to beat a premature Luke Skywalker but I don't know how good he'd do against a fully trained younger Sithlord wth a double bladed saber.

Rollo Tomassi
09-18-2001, 12:21 AM
Okay folks. here is the hierarchy of lightsaber wielding bad mofos in the Star Wars galaxy.

Luke is at the top because he beat Vader.

Vader beat Obi Wan.

Obi Wan beat Maul.

Maul beat Qui Gon.

Even Piell was beat with the ugly stick.


Vader vs. Maul? Vader wins...

GNT
09-18-2001, 01:52 AM
http://www.sirstevesguide.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=53

JediTricks
09-18-2001, 08:46 AM
And on the old forums:
Who's better, Maul or Vader? (http://209.197.112.151/thread.html?dom=ss&TID=8&PID=5339)

my answer: Vader

JEDIpartner
09-18-2001, 12:45 PM
Vader in every way!

He has the brains. Maul may be faster, but Vader has strategy behind him. Vader was there to help bring the Empire to where it was. Maul couldn't even capture the teen queen or eliminate her guardians!!!

Vader had the Executor and the Death Stars... Maul had- uh...

master jedi
09-18-2001, 02:43 PM
Originally posted by Rollo Tomassi
Vader beat Obi Wan.


But Obi-Wan LET Vader beat him. Does this actually make him better than Kenobi? No, it doesn't.

Lobito
09-18-2001, 03:02 PM
In fact Obi Wan beat Vader first and turned him in to half machine. Which leads us to the question Maul Vs. Vader...winner OB1...??? hehehe

So it seems to be the situation!!:D

Rollo Tomassi
09-18-2001, 07:23 PM
Originally posted by Lobito
In fact Obi Wan beat Vader first and turned him in to half machine


That remains to be seen. I think their final conflict will be more complicated than that.

Lobito
09-18-2001, 09:08 PM
Guess we'll see the answer in the next SW movies. I CANT WAIT!!

2-1B
03-01-2008, 02:31 PM
Darth Grievous pwns them all. :thumbsup:

jedi master sal
03-01-2008, 09:26 PM
Maul would have wiped the floor clean with Vader.

Obi-wan without question wiped them both.

Just because someone is stronger or faster doesn't make them better. Obi-wan was smarter and that seemed to make all the difference when against Vader.

El Chuxter
03-01-2008, 09:33 PM
Young Obi-Wan > Human Vader > Cyborg Vader > Sidious > Yoda > Qui-Gon* > Mace > Dooku > Luke > Grievous > Maul > Old Obi-Wan

*--Barring suckerpunches, in which case he's obviously less than Maul.

JimJamBonds
03-02-2008, 02:02 PM
In fact Obi Wan beat Vader first and turned him in to half machine


That remains to be seen. I think their final conflict will be more complicated than that.

I'm putting my money on Lobito.

2-1B
03-02-2008, 02:24 PM
Lobito would pwn JJB. :thumbsup: