• "Bring on the Barge" Fan Site Petition!

      We have partnered with several other fan sites to solicit support for a 3-3/4″ scale Jabba’s Sail Barge Vehicle/Playset.



      Hasbro has shown interest in building such a vehicle but we need to let them know WE WANT IT by gathering as many signatures as possible and presenting them to the Star Wars brand team at Toy Fair. Head on over to show your support by signing the petition at BringOnTheBarge.com and thanks to all of our colleagues for working together in this collaborative effort.

      What features would you like to see in this vehicle/playset? Let us know in the comments section below!
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      Comments 17 Comments
      1. Mr. JabbaJohnL's Avatar
        Mr. JabbaJohnL -
        Very cool. I signed! I'm #25, what do I get?
      1. JediTricks's Avatar
        JediTricks -
        I signed it, but I'll be honest, after Derryl's comment, I think this is the wrong timing and a questionable use of the fan movement. Hasbro already knows the fans are passionate about this piece, yet the mainstream market is basically shoveling dirt onto the idea in an open grave - the MTT hasn't been a runaway success (around here it's been immobile on shelves), the Republic Attack Shuttle bombed despite being a fun toy, for some reason TRU still has a bunch of AT-ATs. So Hasbro already seems to know what we think and has already complained about being inundated by that message.
      1. Darth Metalmute's Avatar
        Darth Metalmute -
        I have never even seen the MTT, much less anything since the Phantom Menace Line.
      1. bigbarada's Avatar
        bigbarada -
        I signed it, but I didn't donate any money to the petition website. I'm assuming my signature will still count, right?
      1. Mr. JabbaJohnL's Avatar
        Mr. JabbaJohnL -
        bigbarada, I didn't donate money to it either, and my signature shows up.

        JT, I know what you mean. When they focus on it, collectors have been able to get other items made before, but it was usually just basic figures and not something of this magnitude. I don't think most collectors realize the enormous investments required for this line, especially in huge, pricey items like the Class III ships. But the fact that they're looking for 10,000 signatures is perhaps showing that this petition is more designed to display how widespread the fan interest is, not just the fact that it exists - something like this could potentially maybe be more persuasive than random guys walking up to them at conventions. Then again, I also don't think that collectors realize that the Hasbro SW team is (largely) made up of fans that are truly as passionate about SW as we are and that they are probably already actively trying to get items like these made. Maybe the team will pass it on to Hasbro corporate - I don't know. At any rate, I don't think it will hurt or anything.
      1. El Chuxter's Avatar
        El Chuxter -
        10,000 signatures?

        You reckon the production run on such a huge honking vehicle is anything close to that ballpark? Just seems like an insane requirement to get to possibly consider producing what they should recognize as probably the most-requested ship in the modern line's history.

        I didn't give two craps about the Clone Wars mega-vehicles. The Juggernaut came well after my interest in ROTS had shot straight to hell. The BMF, BAT-AT, and Slave-I while I recognized as bloody amazing, I couldn't justify re-buying (especially having bought two different Slave-I's). But I'd be first to buy a Sail Barge, even not getting hardly any figures anymore. Even if they inflated the price by including six different-colored Yarnas and twelve Neimoidian Warriors.

        But the petition? It seems like a slap in the face. "Just wanted to see if you noticed we really weren't paying attention." C'mon, they know. They're not asleep. Unless there's a guarantee to this, there's no point in my opinion.

        </Jargo mode>
      1. Mr. JabbaJohnL's Avatar
        Mr. JabbaJohnL -
        I mentioned this elsewhere, but in case anyone is confused as to who's putting on this petition, it's the fan sites, not Hasbro. It's meant to show Hasbro the level of support for the vehicle, not just the fact that it exists at all.

        I believe I saw the 10,000 number put forward by Paul Harrison from JediTempleArchives, who writes in a very hyperbolic, overly emotional, sometimes confrontational, always whiny style. (Just a few hours after the petition went up, he was berating people on Facebook for not having signed it yet.) They'd like to hit that target by the time they present the results to Hasbro at NYTF in February, but I don't think it's necessarily a defined goal.

        Leaked documents showed that the USA runs for some current TRU exclusives were 30,000 - including the upcoming Endor AT-AT, which is the second paint scheme for the AT-AT and the third packaging style overall (after the normal one and the TRU exclusive Vintage box). The only time Hasbro has officially released a production number was for the 2005 Target exclusive lava reflection Darth Vader figure, which the packaging said had a run of 50,000. That was an exclusive, but it was one a lot of people probably didn't want, even though there was probably a much higher number of collectors and casual buyers at the time than there are now for a number of factors. Obviously the tooling and development costs are wildly different for a giant, brand-new vehicle than they are for a repainted figure (or any figure), so I really don't know how many Hasbro would want to sell to turn a profit on it.
      1. Neuroleptic's Avatar
        Neuroleptic -
        I know I'm in the minority here . . . and I'm almost afrade to say it. But this vehicle just isn't a priority to me for a few reasons. 1. is cost. To do it justice it would have to be BIG. at least the size of the at-at and then some without legs, and I have a feeling most people would be angered by that. Given what people are demanding it will fall well outside the $120 price range, putting it outside of what I'd be willing to pay for it. And lastly, I love return of the Jedi and Jaba's palace. However . . . to me that whole first part of the film is mostly about Jabba's palace, which I find more iconic and interesting than the barge. I'd have to pass.
      1. Tycho's Avatar
        Tycho -
        I'll be signing the petition. I want to thing 3 to 4 feet at least. So it fits Jabba of course, and all the figures that fit in the scene. I'll pay up to $300 but for this to be successful they need to have the price be lower than that.
      1. Darth Metalmute's Avatar
        Darth Metalmute -
        I'm with Neuroleptic. I saw the MTT for the first time today. I got excited until I saw the back. Here are the action features: There's a flip down panel for battle droids to have coffee, a side ladder for battle droids to climb, a flip up missile turret that's EU, and a distributing droid rack which is the whole reason to make the MTT. All of this for 180 dollars. The "action features" is not worth the price. Now the BMF is back, and 100 dollars more expensive that the original. What exactly do you think a Sail Barge would cost? 500 dollars with no action features? For it to be worth buying, it could not have a scale where Jabbas head hits the the bottom of the deck. But that's the only way it would be affordable and cost effective for Hasbro to do. And thats not even including the weight of the "toy".

        Secondly, you could submit Hasbro with a petition with a million signatures, and they wouldn't make it. Hasbro is a business and making the Sail Barge could potentially bankrupt them if it fails. Why would they risk it, especially with all the financial troubles around the world? They know that even if 100,000 people sign this petition, 100,000 people would not buy it if they had the opportunity.

        It will take more than a petition with 100,000 signatures on it for Hasbro to even consider the idea. It would take a pre-production presale where full payments would need to be made before production even starts. The payments would have to be money orders only so no one could cancel there orders or demand a refund. The fans that are clamoring for this vehicle would be required to make an investment too, so Hasbro isn't the only one sticking their necks out. This petition is just that. fans demanding the Hasbro risk their very lively hood to appease a small minority of their consumer base, while fans get to sit back and "wait and see" if they will actually pay.
      1. JediTricks's Avatar
        JediTricks -
        I think if you had a million people pledging to buy it, that'd probably convince Hasbro to pull the trigger. The risk is really about interest, if you got 1/300th of the US population to pay attention to the Sail Barge, that alone would tell Hasbro there's enough recognition of the item to warrant the risk.

        I think at the $150 pricerange they could probably pull off a passable Sail Barge with a lift-off top or a fold-out design, all it really needs is 1 big chamber inside for Jabba - you can fit Jabba in the BMF and AT-AT interior, he's not terribly tall, only about 5-foot without his throne, and in the movie his head is near the ceiling of the barge anyway since he's on a throne - and space for some minions (that set is pretty tight in the movie, there's room for maybe a dozen characters), some stairs leading to the top, maybe a jail cell in the front ahead of those stairs, and some shutters. Everything else would be on the top surface - a big gun, 2 sails with lines, some railings (perhaps a few with break-away gimmick or something) and some railing-mounted guns, a Boba Fett spring-mounted launch platform, that's all fairly simple stuff and either very thin or plug-on accessories. Volume-wise, I'd say it shouldn't take up more space than the AT-AT body in height and length, and only a little more in width. All that should make it more appealing than the MTT, which I definitely agree is a limited execution, especially the "coffee break area". The only thing holding Hasbro back from making the sail barge is the belief that not enough of the audience is familiar with it and that it's not exciting enough to warrant a new mold, and they're probably not wrong.
      1. El Chuxter's Avatar
        El Chuxter -
        Well, simple. Convince Disney to put it in Episode VII. Problem solved!
      1. JediTricks's Avatar
        JediTricks -
        Quote Originally Posted by El Chuxter View Post
        Well, simple. Convince Disney to put it in Episode VII. Problem solved!
        They put it in the Clone Wars movie and it didn't help.
      1. Mr. JabbaJohnL's Avatar
        Mr. JabbaJohnL -
        It was only in TCW for like three seconds, and it would need a de-exploding feature in order to appear in Episode VII.

        With the Disney partnership, I wonder if they will be able to do more Starspeeder-type items from other media now (in terms of being compatible with Hasbro's line but not made by Hasbro)? They could even put in a Jack Sparrow and call it good.
      1. Darth Metalmute's Avatar
        Darth Metalmute -
        Quote Originally Posted by JediTricks View Post
        I think if you had a million people pledging to buy it, that'd probably convince Hasbro to pull the trigger. The risk is really about interest, if you got 1/300th of the US population to pay attention to the Sail Barge, that alone would tell Hasbro there's enough recognition of the item to warrant the risk.
        The problem with interest is this, I would love to see them do a Sail Barge; but there is no way I'm buying one. And I'm sure I'm not the only one in this boat. I believe Hasbro knows this as well.

        Quote Originally Posted by Mr. JabbaJohnL View Post
        With the Disney partnership, I wonder if they will be able to do more Starspeeder-type items from other media now (in terms of being compatible with Hasbro's line but not made by Hasbro)? They could even put in a Jack Sparrow and call it good.
        Ugh, but then it would be Disney quality toys... For as much detail Disney puts in their movies and theme parks, they certainly cut corners on their toys.
      1. JediTricks's Avatar
        JediTricks -
        Quote Originally Posted by Mr. JabbaJohnL View Post
        It was only in TCW for like three seconds, and it would need a de-exploding feature in order to appear in Episode VII.
        It could just be a DIFFERENT sail barge in the movie, someone else's.


        Quote Originally Posted by Darth Metalmute View Post
        The problem with interest is this, I would love to see them do a Sail Barge; but there is no way I'm buying one. And I'm sure I'm not the only one in this boat. I believe Hasbro knows this as well.
        That obviously is a big problem. Why wouldn't you buy one?

        Ugh, but then it would be Disney quality toys... For as much detail Disney puts in their movies and theme parks, they certainly cut corners on their toys.
        It's always different, actually, because Disney always uses different vendors for each item. I like the Starspeeder 1000/3000 we got even though it isn't quite Hasbro quality because it's also not Hasbro price.
      1. Darth Metalmute's Avatar
        Darth Metalmute -
        Quote Originally Posted by JediTricks View Post
        That obviously is a big problem. Why wouldn't you buy one?
        Honestly, if it's not absolutely perfect, I don't want it and really don't have room for it. That being said, I have a feeling what I consider absolutely perfect would cost me a car payment.
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