Yes. I "liked" the above post by OC.
OK, the Mayans are Mexicans, as are the BizLats.
But the BizLats (Nero's guys) are more local than the nomad Mayan bikers.
So when Marx's black people (1-Niners) hit the Mexicans, Nero's BizLats will suffer as the blacks will just shoot any Mexicans, especially with the blacks having the Irish guns.
The Chinese? Hmmm.
OK - so with my thoughts above....
If the Chinese sit down with the Mayans, they could just propose that the Mayans let the BizLats take the fall-out from the blacks' being shot.
I don't see that Alvarez (Mayans) has to do anything the way things lie.
Now Juice knows the truth and he's half-black.
Here's my strategy for Jax trying to make things right with Nero and the BizLats:
Re-establish the truth the (Mexican) Mayans - a rival biker gang to Samcro - shot the blacks. The BizLats (Mexicans) were innocent of that. Put it back on Alvarez and use Juice to get them to listen. Juice owes Jax again and there's no one to protect him (if the 1-Niners would shoot the messenger). So why not send Juice to broker the peace for the BizLats? That'll make things right with Nero.
Jax is in business with Nero and his mom (who he doesn't know killed Tara) is tied to Nero (BizLat O.G.) Samcro has no love for the Mayans and Alvarez really.
So SoA clears the slate for the BizLats and sets the 1-Niners after the Mayans.
Maybe Gemma spills it to Nero, that Juice covered for her in Tara's death.
Then Nero (through with Gemma and business partners with Jax) spills the beans.
Maybe a BizLat connection in rehab gets Wendy after Gemma since everyone learns the truth about how Tara died. Wendy takes out Gemma - the price for getting her son back (theme is SONS of Anarchy) and Jax plans to finish Juice for the death of his wife (since Marx and the 1-Niners probably won't kill Juice.
Of course this is the characters' strategy, but I'm sure Kurt Sutter will write everything going wrong.
Maybe Gemma, furious with Nero, kills her last chance at love, perhaps because she learns Nero conspired to set Wendy against her?
Then the Mayans finish the aging Sons of Anarchy (Charming Original Redwood Chapter)?
Then Gemma still loses everything, and with Wendy in place to get custody, she takes the kids away from Gemma and runs the same way Tara had planned to?
My theory starts to get weak, but it's still possible. Feel free to shoot holes in it.
Is it just me or is this season a mixed bag? It's all over the place. It's interesting but there's so many different storylines, new and old, that are going on it makes you wonder if everything will be wrapped up by the series' end in December.
Gemma's detachment from reality is interesting. Her imaginary talks with Tara. More and more shades of Lady MacBeth.
Hello, OC, my clone brother ;) And on to the show...
Gemma needs to die.
I so hate her now!
This show is so twisted that I hope Clay was Jax's real father (he didn't know) and he is the one to eventually kill both his parents.
Thank you SoA. I'm into fratricide now.
The season's action packed and building. Last night was only sort of a slower episode. They shot all the blacks in some gun action.
I wonder what the point of that waitress was?
She heard Gemma confess - sort of. She said Tara's death was her fault. Open to interpretation, but we know the truth. Jax doesn't.
Also, in the preview, it looked like Jax was handing Juice's cut back to him. Jax seems suspicious of Unser, too.
I wonder if "the favor" Jax told Juice he would once owe him, was actually to go under cover and be Jax's eyes and ears when everyone thought Juice was an outsider?
I've wondered if Jax is so na´ve that he trusts his mom? The show started with John Teller's letters, but that stopped many seasons ago. Did Jax learn something from them that he's kept secret all this time? Did Tara before she died?
My friend thinks Gemma is going to get everyone killed and die a sad, lonely woman - maybe pathetically hooked up with Unser, living in his trailer and smoking pot because everyone else dies.
It will be sad if Nero dies. Not just because he's Bail Organa, but I really like Nero's character. Jimmy Smits is a great actor and I hope we get to see him also return to Star Wars. With the British accent, he is a polar opposite to Nero, but a good guy character of a different stripe in each. I love his work.
*BTW, "Clone," checking in since apparently our DVR's are also cloned most of the time:
Agents of SHIELD (tolerating and happily surprised once in a while)
The Goldbergs (too funny to pass up)
The Flash (has been good so far, but can't see Barry running for endurance ;)
Arrow (awesome! Better than Gotham, not surprisingly)
Hell on Wheels (been a great ride, but Elam's fate was a real shocking surprise)
In a later announcement, before it airs, and with pictures when I'm allowed to post them, I am also in a TV show I'm recording (as of only recently) - a network detective show, but I'll make the announcement when I am contractually allowed to.
I also record and study a lot of American Heroes Channel and Military History Channel programs. Recently studied Iraq and I have Afghanistan and WWI Russia on cue.
At this point, the only person walking away with no blood on his/her hands is baby Thomas. I thought Abel had a chance until the hammer incident last week.
At this point, we don't know how much Nero really knows after his time in the janitor's closet with Juice. Juice made a comment about a death chamber or something and I interpreted the closet as his confession. Or was it?
With it being the final season, it's like 'let's see how many guest stars we can cram in!' Any actress could've been Lea Michele's waitress. The same with Courtney Love's teacher. Marilyn Manson has a little juicier role.
Tig and Venus will ride off into the sunset together. LOL.
Love the Goldbergs. Go Big Tasty!
Loved Rebels: Spark of Rebellion. Went out and bought the DVD. Haven't caught the show. Don't have Disney XD but I will find a way to watch.
Haven't caught the Flash or Gotham.
There's a DVD for Rebels already?
Gotham you *should* be watching. It fits your taste. It's a Mafia / gangster show that might as well be Boardwalk Empire with "other" familiar faces. It's worth your while. It has a touch of Hannibal to it, too. (Can't wait for Hannibal to return!)
Glad Marilyn Manson isn't screwing up SoA.
Conan was on Talking Dead. Is he next for SoA? If he plays a guy who the club holds down, beats up, and shaves his funky hair off, then I'm all for it!
On Goldbergs, I'd like to see Erica do porn. Seriously. <3
The mother on Goldbergs will come back as Gemma Teller-Morrow without a doubt.
The Flash? Interesting racial choices in the casting. It's refreshing actually. A white kid with a black father. I hope they explore that. The father figure, also he's a cop that knows Flash's secret and is trying to protect him, is a very cool character.
Originally Posted by Tycho
Yep. Spark of Rebellion was out a day or two after it first aired on Disney at the WM. It's now at Target this week. Enjoyed watching it uninterrupted.
At one point during the ep, when Chibs, Bobby and Tig were standing together on the roadside, I thought, they might survive all this chaos unscathed. Boy was I wrong! Jax just digs a deeper and deeper hole for himself and the club.
And will little Abel squeal on Grandma Gemma? Gemma's grasp of reality is slipping further and further away. It's only a matter of time before she slips over the edge and can't come back.
The whole 'we need Gemma at the cabin' storyline was different. I know it's part of the plot and stuff, building tension, but it all could've been resolved if one of the guys said Gemma's help was needed to get the preacher's wife off the smack. But it wouldn't have been as interesting.
Drea Whatshername has really filled in the surrogate mother role nicely.
I don't remember Jax looking so defeated as he had in this latest episode after You-Know-Who's death.
Thought this week's ep was the best of the season so far. Everybody getting a little luvin' in the beginning and a big reveal at the end.
Supposedly there are three eps left. There's a lot to wrap up.