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  1. Poll: Re: Who is at fault for Anakin's fall to the Dark Side?

    Very well-said, Caesar!!

    I too voted for Anakin Skywalker being to blame for his own fall.

    The Jedi Council's constant mistrust and downright belligerent rejection of Anakin had a hand in...
  2. Poll: Re: Was Obi-Wan Lying to Luke about Anakin/Vader?

    No, I REALLY didn't. I truly was amused.





    I'm sorry. You're right. You were not "proving your point" with the Seinfeld reference. You were MAKING your point by using the Sienfeld reference...
  3. Poll: Re: Was Obi-Wan Lying to Luke about Anakin/Vader?

    Whoa, lighten-up, fella. I didn't take the Sienfeld reference "seriously". I was simply AMUSED by the fact that you would use one of the most decietful, underhanded, and dishonest characters in all...
  4. Poll: Re: Was Obi-Wan Lying to Luke about Anakin/Vader?

    The controversial nature of this topic has made it very clear, at least to me, that the definitions of WORDS, and the precise usage of LANGUAGE are of paramount importance when determining if someone...
  5. Poll: Re: Was Obi-Wan Lying to Luke about Anakin/Vader?

    There is NOTHING "wrong" with Ben thinking that... except the fact that HE DIDN'T think it (back on Tatooine), he does NOT stand by it, and it DIDN'T HAPPEN that way, "basically" or otherwise. It is...
  6. Poll: Re: Was Obi-Wan Lying to Luke about Anakin/Vader?

    Sorry, but it's NOT that simple. When George Coztanza said those words on "Seinfeld", he was (as usual) trying to get away with something DISHONEST. He was splitting hairs and trying to come up with...
  7. Poll: Re: Was Obi-Wan Lying to Luke about Anakin/Vader?

    Jaff,

    I want to be the first to publicly CONGRATULATE you on what is (in my opinion) one of the best written posts that I have ever read on this or any other STAR WARS forum.

    Your points are...
  8. Poll: Re: Was Obi-Wan Lying to Luke about Anakin/Vader?

    Most (if not ALL) of the key players in this whole Anakin / Darth nonsense share the PERSONAL VIEWPOINT that Anakin and Darth were ONE MAN.

    Let's take them one by one:

    1) OBI-WAN KENOBI

    Obi...
  9. Poll: Re: Was Obi-Wan Lying to Luke about Anakin/Vader?

    My "interpretation" of Luke's question was shared by Obi-Wan. This is why he fessed-up in Return of the Jedi and told Luke the truth.

    My PREFERENCE for how the question should be ANSWERED was not...
  10. Poll: Re: Was Obi-Wan Lying to Luke about Anakin/Vader?

    Kidhuman, I think we've already established that Obi-Wan is likely NOT a schitzo.

    And there is no evidence anywhere in the trilogy that Darth Vader himself is a schitzo. Besides which, Vader...
  11. Poll: Re: Was Obi-Wan Lying to Luke about Anakin/Vader?

    Ummm... No.

    It seems to me (and I think to MOST reasonable people) that the matter of someone's (physical) DEATH is really NOT debatable. One is either dead or NOT dead. There is no in-between....
  12. Poll: Re: Was Obi-Wan Lying to Luke about Anakin/Vader?

    Some interesting points there Stillakid.

    I'd like to respond, if I may:

    You say that the word "sell" “… denotes a connotation implying a manipulative scenario…” I contend that Obi-Wan DID...
  13. Poll: Re: Was Obi-Wan Lying to Luke about Anakin/Vader?

    My two cents:

    From my own "... certain point of view..." Obi Wan Kenobi LIED, LIED, LIED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    This is real simple:

    Did Obi-Wan Kenobi know (at the moment that Luke asked his...
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