This is with out a doubt a rip off of the greatest kind. Not only is this a fake, but somehow he (the seller) has it graded (faked) by AFA. Here is the link:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=1772314662
This is how I know (Taken from one of Gus Lopez and Chris Fawcett's guildline on the Vinyl Cape Jawa)
The cape should match the color of the Jawa. Many fakes are being made by cutting Ben Kenobi capes to the size for the Jawa. The Ben capes however are a deeper reddish-brown than the Jawa cape. It is good to compare the VC Jawa cape to a Ben cape and make sure they are very different colors.
The arm holes should fit very snuggly. Often on fakes which have been hand cut, the holes for the arms are fairly loose. On real VC Jawa, the arm holes are very tight.
The cape should have the same thickness as the Ben capes. Many of the fakes out there that are not made from Ben capes are the correct color. But since these capes have been made recently, the material is different from the real VC Jawa cape. Many of these capes are much stiffer and thicker than real capes. The VC and Ben capes are made from the same material, so check both the thickness and pliability against a Ben cape.
The Jawa cape has a very faint crosshatch pattern on the inside. The outside is very smooth. Check for this pattern as it would be very difficult to fake this detail.
Here is a pic of the real one, you can actually tell the difference between the color and the cut of the cape.
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The Horror!!! E-bay rip-off?
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Hmmm, I don't know man. Are you sure it's bogus? I see what you're saying, but then again it looks like the seller just took crappy, dark pics. What a terrible, terrible thing if it is fake!
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I have to think in these cases that AFA would be extra careful to determine the authenticity of the figure. Grading something that expensive in a negligent manner might get them in hot water or ruin their reputation. One of the only reasons for using AFA is getting a better sense of authenticity.
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It could be that the type of photography is distorting the image color. Question, is the serial number for the vinyl Jawa differnent than the other Jawa's? If so, wouldn't this person have to fake the whole card as well?
I'm by no means an expert on this or even a good source, I'm just curious. Looking at the 2 pictures I can't see any glaring errors as you said Brandon. Sure the cape seems perhaps a bit different and the color is also a different hue but again, it's hard to do anything like that justice with 4 pictures.
It really doesn't matter though as I think it's stupid to pay $4500 for 2.5" of plastic no matter if its real or fake."No one helped me so why should I help you?" - College professor circa 1999
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Originally posted by Exhaust Port
It really doesn't matter though as I think it's stupid to pay $4500 for 2.5" of plastic no matter if its real or fake.
Amen! I was going to say the same thing......and a $6,400 "Buy It Now"!?!?!.......Jeeez......
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Here is a comparison pic between the two, you can clearly see the difference between the cut in the cape (style) Also you can see the real one opens in the front while the one I'm sure is fake does not. Save it and enlarge it to see the difference.
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Originally posted by Emperor Howdy
Amen! I was going to say the same thing......and a $6,400 "Buy It Now"!?!?!.......Jeeez......
I can agree with that 100%, I was just bringing the news as many before have done.
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The truth is in the cape.
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I just posted this at RebelScum, they have lots of Vintage collectors who are good at spotting fakes, they should give great insight to the truth, and they will I am sure warn the bidders if it is indeed a fake which it appears to be.
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I just checked over there as well and I found the post. Do you think we should send them the comparison photo I posted as well to show the cape difference. i.e. shorter photo cape is one piece(fake) while the longer photo (real) is able to open in the front like it is supposed to.Originally posted by rynobot
I just posted this at RebelScum, they have lots of Vintage collectors who are good at spotting fakes, they should give great insight to the truth, and they will I am sure warn the bidders if it is indeed a fake which it appears to be.THANKS FOR THE AT-TE & FALCON HASBRO. NOW IT'S TIME FOR A LARGE TANTIVE IV!
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They won't need it, they are very good at spotting fakes, and just mentioning that it is one should be enough for them to spot what is wrong with the cape.
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