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  1. #71
    Has it been over 2 years since this thread last got love? I swear we had a hobbit thread that was more recent!?!? Anyway, things are looking REALLY good right now. Stole this from coming-soon.net:

    As for The Hobbit, Sloan confirmed that MGM was in advanced talks with Peter Jackson to make two movies based on JRR Tolkien's "prequel" to "The Lord of the Rings."

    The first would be a direct adaptation of The Hobbit, and the second would be drawn from "footnotes and source material connecting 'The Hobbit' with 'Lord of the Rings,'" he explained.

    An MGM spokesman emphasized that negotiations with Jackson are still in progress, and that production isn't likely until 2008 or even 2009.
    Nice. And here's to hoping for same cast for reoccuring characters. Ian Holm, Sir Ian, etc.
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  2. #72
    i'll believe it when it happens!

    time to keep the fingers crossed. so this second film would be a watered down mishmash of the silmarillion and other Tolkien works?

  3. #73
    It's consistently my opinion that these guys really need to get together and stop bickering. Together, these guys have all the necessary parts for some very special movies, just like the main trilogy. Apart, they have a children's book with all the inherent flaws. Beyond that, it seems financially advantageous for them to get together on the same page too.

    Just based on that I have to imagine it's a foregone conclusion that these movies will be made and they will be made by Peter Jackson and Weta. Of course, people are seldom that rational, so I keep imagining MGM giving the job to some idiot who will make a terrible movie that entertains people only by way of the jokes they can make about it.

    Ah, the Silmarillion. If a movie were to be made of even part of that story I would be ecstatic. Just the Fall of Gondolin would be enough for me.
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  4. #74
    Quote Originally Posted by Jedi_Master_Guyute View Post
    Has it been over 2 years since this thread last got love? I swear we had a hobbit thread that was more recent!?!? Anyway, things are looking REALLY good right now. Stole this from coming-soon.net:

    As for The Hobbit, Sloan confirmed that MGM was in advanced talks with Peter Jackson to make two movies based on JRR Tolkien's "prequel" to "The Lord of the Rings."

    The first would be a direct adaptation of The Hobbit, and the second would be drawn from "footnotes and source material connecting 'The Hobbit' with 'Lord of the Rings,'" he explained.

    An MGM spokesman emphasized that negotiations with Jackson are still in progress, and that production isn't likely until 2008 or even 2009.
    Nice. And here's to hoping for same cast for reoccuring characters. Ian Holm, Sir Ian, etc.
    That could be incredibly awesome. Maybe we'd get to see the White Council and their confrontation with Sauron as the Necromancer at Dol Goldur! No doubt the diehard book fans would find plenty reason to complain about that though.

  5. #75
    I think the Hobbit would be best done spread over two movies. That would enable most of the book's important parts to be shown on film. Either way, i dont think the diehards will ever be satisfied if it isnt an exact replication of every single line written. Good to hear that the Hobbit has possibilites (and given how much money it would make, ive never doubted that it would be done) of happening relatively soon. I just wish things were happening now rather than later, i want to go back to Middle Earth.
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  6. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by kool-aid killer View Post
    I think the Hobbit would be best done spread over two movies. That would enable most of the book's important parts to be shown on film. Either way, i dont think the diehards will ever be satisfied if it isnt an exact replication of every single line written. Good to hear that the Hobbit has possibilites (and given how much money it would make, ive never doubted that it would be done) of happening relatively soon. I just wish things were happening now rather than later, i want to go back to Middle Earth.
    KAK- Excellent point. The diehards aren't going to be pleased until their vision, word for word, scene for scene is up on on the silver screen and that won't happen. PJ won't ruin his LOTR films and since he's been awnting to do the Hobbit for a while, he'll take care of things. I just hate the diehards who are like, "wait wait wait, Frodo's hair isn't that dark! BLASPHEMY!"
    "Woke up at 9.55am. Soon as I woke up, I looked at Suzanne and she looked at me. I said, 'Did I tell you about the immune system?' Suzanne starting laughing, I said, 'it's amazing.' She said, 'Not now.'"

  7. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by Jedi_Master_Guyute View Post
    I just hate the diehards who are like, "wait wait wait, Frodo's hair isn't that dark! BLASPHEMY!"
    But it's not! It's BLASPHEMY!

    Tommy, close your eyes.

  8. #78
    PJ sent this e-mail to the One-Ring.net. Detailing info about the film which he is NOT INVOLVED with directing. Basically, it's all due to this damn MGM/New Line lawsuit. Read on:

    Dear One Ringers,

    As you know, there's been a lot of speculation about The Hobbit. We are often asked about when or if this film will ever be made. We have always responded that we would be very interested in making the film - if it were offered to us to make.

    You may also be aware that Wingnut Films has bought a lawsuit against New Line, which resulted from an audit we undertook on part of the income of The Fellowship of the Ring. Our attitude with the lawsuit has always been that since it's largely based on differences of opinion about certain accounting practices, we would like an independent body - whether it be a judge, a jury, or a mediator, to look at the issues and make an unbiased ruling. We are happy to accept whatever that ruling is. In our minds, it's not much more complex than that and that's exactly why film contracts include right-to-audit clauses.

    However, we have always said that we do not want to discuss The Hobbit with New Line until the lawsuit over New Line's accounting practices is resolved. This is simple common sense - you cannot be in a relationship with a film studio, making a complex, expensive movie and dealing with all the pressures and responsibilities that come with the job, while an unresolved lawsuit exists.

    We have also said that we do not want to tie settlement of the lawsuit to making a film of The Hobbit. In other words, we would have to agree to make The Hobbit as a condition of New Line settling our lawsuit. In our minds this is not the right reason to make a film and if a film of The Hobbit went ahead on this basis, it would be doomed. Deciding to make a movie should come from the heart - it's not a matter of business convenience. When you agree to make a film, you're taking on a massive commitment and you need to be driven by an absolute passion to want to get the story on screen. It's that passion, and passion alone, that gives the movie its imagination and heart. To us it is not a cold-blooded business decision.

    A couple of months ago there was a flurry of Hobbit news in the media. MGM, who own a portion of the film rights in The Hobbit, publicly stated they wanted to make the film with us. It was a little weird at the time because nobody from New Line had ever spoken to us about making a film of The Hobbit and the media had some fun with that. Within a week or two of those stories, our Manager Ken Kamins got a call from the co-president of New Line Cinema, Michael Lynne, who in essence told Ken that the way to settle the lawsuit was to get a commitment from us to make the Hobbit, because "that's how these things are done". Michael Lynne said we would stand to make much more money if we tied the lawsuit and the movie deal together and this may well be true, but it's still the worst reason in the world to agree to make a film.

    Several years ago, Mark Ordesky told us that New Line have rights to make not just The Hobbit but a second "LOTR prequel", covering the events leading up to those depicted in LOTR. Since then, we've always assumed that we would be asked to make The Hobbit and possibly this second film, back to back, as we did the original movies. We assumed that our lawsuit with the studio would come to a natural conclusion and we would then be free to discuss our ideas with the studio, get excited and jump on board. We've assumed that we would possibly get started on development and design next year, whilst filming The Lovely Bones. We even had a meeting planned with MGM executives to talk through our schedule.

    However last week, Mark Ordesky called Ken and told him that New Line would no longer be requiring our services on the Hobbit and the LOTR 'prequel'. This was a courtesy call to let us know that the studio was now actively looking to hire another filmmaker for both projects.

    Ordesky said that New Line has a limited time option on the film rights they have obtained from Saul Zaentz (this has never been conveyed to us before), and because we won't discuss making the movies until the lawsuit is resolved, the studio is going to have to hire another director.

    Given that New Line are committed to this course of action, we felt at the very least, we owed you, the fans, a straightforward account of events as they have unfolded for us.

    We have always had the greatest support from The Ringers and we are very sorry our involvement with The Hobbit has been ended in this way. Our journey into Tolkien's world started with a phone call from Ken Kamins to Harvey Weinstein in Nov 1995 and ended with a phone call from Mark Ordesky to Ken in Nov 2006. It has been a great 11 years.

    This outcome is not what we anticipated or wanted, but neither do we see any positive value in bitterness and rancor. We now have no choice but to let the idea of a film of The Hobbit go and move forward with other projects.

    We send our very best wishes to whomever has the privilege of making The Hobbit and look forward to seeing the film on the big screen.

    Warmest regards to you all, and thanks for your incredible support over the years.

    We got to go there - but not back again ...

    Peter Jackson and Fran Walsh
    Well, New Line and MGM both shot themselves in the foot with this one. I don't foresee ANY director showing as respect to the LOTR novels as Fran & PJ did. And they just lost my ticket sale, DVD sale, etc cos i won't see a LOTR flick PJ hasn't been involved with. He made those flicks work due to his love of the material. This new prequel won't be good.
    "Woke up at 9.55am. Soon as I woke up, I looked at Suzanne and she looked at me. I said, 'Did I tell you about the immune system?' Suzanne starting laughing, I said, 'it's amazing.' She said, 'Not now.'"

  9. #79
    Can you say "Lord of the Rings, Episode I: The Revenge of the Phantom Clones"?
    Tommy, close your eyes.

  10. #80
    Interesting read, unfortunately, im dont like what ive read. Whoever directs "The Hobbit" is going to have high expectations to fill. But its too bad it had to be this way, Jackson had already proven he has the chops to get it done well.
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