View Poll Results: How much would you pay for exclusive Episode III content on StarWars.com?

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  • $0.00 - It should all be free!

    395 86.81%
  • $1.00 per month

    24 5.27%
  • $2 -3.00 per month

    22 4.84%
  • Over $5.00 per month

    7 1.54%
  • Over $5.00 per month as long as I got an e-mail account or forums over there

    7 1.54%
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  1. #31
    Originally posted by Darth Jax
    to me the easiest way to look at this is to look back at pro wrestling as an example. wrestling's big events were not always pay-per-view. but they realized there was more money to be had by charging those that couldn't get tix to watch the event as well. there were still the weekly matches you could watch on your regular cable channel but to get these exclusive matches you had to pay to see it.

    starwars.com is taking the same approach. you can get your regular information, but if you want additional it will cost you. no one can force you to pay and visit the site. can you live without the new 'exclusive' content on hyperspace, SURE. can you miss a wrestling pay-per-view, ABSOLUTELY. but there are enough people out there that feel its a valuable enough way to spend their money and will purchase a membership for hyperspace.
    There's a huge difference between the Hyperspace content and a wrestling match apart from watching sweaty guys in tights roll around and embrace on the floor together.

    The Hyperspace content isn't an "event" with limited seating. It's just information. The wrestling match is a limited time sporting event...it exists for a specified amount of time (live), and then it is done. Of course we're talking about WWE so it is scripted, but ignoring that for a minute, no one knows how it will turn out so there is an element of immediacy for the audience. The Hyperspace content is just there, and it will always be there as long as the webmaster wants it to be.

    Apples and oranges.

  2. #32
    They do have the right to charge for whatever content they want to put out on the web. We also have the right to not subscribe. So be it.
    What will I miss out on? Seeing the pyrotechnincs guys pushing buttons? Watching camera man #3 scratching his butt? They already said that we won't see anyting that is actually being shot. What's the point? And with NO SOUND whatsoever, it gets really annoying really fast.
    So I miss out on seeing the unfinished scene from Episode II. Darn. I won't get to see Ewan McGregor and Sam Jackson swinging metal rods in front of a blue screen. I can watch my nephews do that in the back yard with sticks. Once in a while, they'll whack each other really good, too, which makes things more exciting.
    Anyway, my point is, if you want to pay, pay. If you don't want to pay, don't pay. Check out the free preview and decide for yourself. Don't just sit here and gripe about how "Uncle George" is lining his coffers. Nobody ever said he had to be a philanthropist, did they?

  3. #33
    Originally posted by Unkle Mike
    Nobody ever said he had to be a philanthropist, did they?
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  4. #34
    originally posted by stillakid
    Apples and oranges.
    would you prefer i reference it to a porn site on the net. content there just sits there, but if you wanna look, you have to pony up a buck (or two...). the message being the same. you can find similar info (even the same pix) elsewhere on the web for free, yet paysites must make money or they wouldn't stay in business. the exclusive content on hyperspace will leak quickly enough and be available on other web sites, you just may have to search for it.

    the argument i was making concerning wrestling was that if you will let viewers watch for no fee matches every week, why charge them to see matches once a month. same with starwars.com, if you're going to have some info available at no charge, what makes certain information then valuable enough to justify pay-per-view versus being available for free on their site. why pay to see the rock take on a particular opponent when the following week will be a return match you can see for free?

    if someone wants to charge for their intellectual property fine. i don't have to subscribe, neither do you.

  5. #35
    Originally posted by Darth Jax
    would you prefer i reference it to a porn site on the net. content there just sits there, but if you wanna look, you have to pony up a buck (or two...). the message being the same. you can find similar info (even the same pix) elsewhere on the web for free, yet paysites must make money or they wouldn't stay in business. the exclusive content on hyperspace will leak quickly enough and be available on other web sites, you just may have to search for it.
    No, because that isn't a fair comparison either. Unless the porn site is advertising for another event, like a love festival that you have to pay admission for, like a movie.

    Originally posted by Darth Jax
    the argument i was making concerning wrestling was that if you will let viewers watch for no fee matches every week, why charge them to see matches once a month.
    That wasn't your original statement. You wondered about a match in which people who can't go to the actual live event have the option of paying for a televised broadcast. Now you're talking about something else.

    So, your new situation is:
    Originally posted by Darth Jax
    the argument i was making concerning wrestling was that if you will let viewers watch for no fee matches every week, why charge them to see matches once a month.
    I don't know. Ask them. Maybe those pay per view matches are supposed to be inherently better with better actors, er, um...wrestlers or something. I suppose maybe you're taking the view that the "free" matches are merely advertisement teasers to get you hyped up for the big "pay" event later in the month. If that's what you mean, you've made my case for me. Those early matches are FREE to entice you to PAY for the bigger main event.

    Originally posted by Darth Jax
    same with starwars.com, if you're going to have some info available at no charge, what makes certain information then valuable enough to justify pay-per-view versus being available for free on their site.
    Right. Exactly. What will be the magic line of demarcation which justifies pay per view vs. a free press release? Good question.

    Originally posted by Darth Jax
    why pay to see the rock take on a particular opponent when the following week will be a return match you can see for free?
    Right. I have no idea. Although, I will say that the general human attitude toward "free" stuff is that it somehow isn't as good as something you have to "pay" for. It makes no rational sense, but then again, who ever said that humans are rational?

    Originally posted by Darth Jax
    if someone wants to charge for their intellectual property fine. i don't have to subscribe, neither do you.
    Right! Vote with your wallet. That sends the message faster than anything else can.

  6. #36
    Originally posted by stillakid
    Anyhow, this begs the questions: Are the toys (et al) marketing tools to help sell movie tickets or are the movies a marketing tool to sell the merchandise? It could be a chicken/egg thing, but in my opinion, it's all one big grey glob of financial opportunity for Lucasfilm. Each entity helps sell the other.
    As of ROTJ, the toys and other merchandising was the key moneymaker for Lucasfilm, far outweighing the income received from ticket and home market sales.


    As I've said before, I've bought tons of books and several videos that should have had the non-Ep3 content in them, but for whatever reason, they didn't. Paying to get webcontent from sw.com is not the equivelent of a book or magazine or video/dvd - they are hard copies I'll have forever and have the highest possible quality images and videos on them, this is part of why I continue to buy these books, magazines, and videos. Web content is often inferior to this, and it requires I have web access just to see it in the first place - and almost certainly needs high-speed web access at that. As for the Ep3 content, apparently most isn't even exclusive and even if it were, I wouldn't care much anyway - I didn't really love the AOTC images or the web documentaries, neither of which were as good as the Ep1 versions. If this non-Ep3 content were being offered in new hard copies, I'd consider paying to enjoy them. However, subscribing to the site is akin joining a 2nd official fan club and I don't like it, the first one is struggling enough as it is without a competitor.
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  7. #37

    Thumbs down

    Where is the choice:

    $0.00! I want to be surprised when the movie comes out.

  8. #38

    If you want it so bad you'd pay for it

    then you are the typ eof star wars geek that makes the rest of us Star Wars Geeks look bad!!!

  9. #39
    Ooooooh don't get me started on this one. How much have the fans given to Lucasfilm? We buy all the merchandise, we go to see the movies, we bought the videos when they were "last time ever" and then we bought the special editions. Then, we'll all buy the DVD's.

    And the people that do pay? Are they really going to find out anything really cool? NO! Who cares about Rick McCallum saying "Oh, I can't wait for this *bleeping* movie. It's so much fun, I wish I could tell you more but I can't. We'll be finishing up filming some scenes in a few weeks". Who cares that they're filming. It's not like they'll tell us anything cool.

    The best thing to do is monitor www.theforce.net for spoilers. And also, the only things on starwars.com worth viewing - the making of documentaries will eventually show up anyway.

    I never visit StarWars.com, I find it useless, and what about those select images, how crappy were they? Oooooooh it's a boot! Wow! Oooooh it's a green screen and someone flying in the air. GROUND BREAKING!!!

    It's just a way of kicking the fans in the teeth. Bad Lucasfilm. VERY Bad.
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  10. #40

    Thumbs up

    Originally posted by sexybith74
    I don't want to get too nerdy here, but isn't this how al that crap in Episode 1 started with the Trade Federation?
    I was thinking the exact thing! Maybe Lucas is going senile and needs $$ for experimental/alternative treatments. First Greedo fires at Han and now this hyperspace BS.

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