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    Why doesnt Owen Lars remember C-3PO?

    When anakin goes to tatooine 3po is there with owen, now how come when owen buys 3po from the jawas in ANH he doesnt remember him or r2? same with obi wan not remembering r2. makes no sense.
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    There's been some talk of it already, but here's the synopsis of what we've discussed. Protocal Droids are fairly commen in the Star Wars Universe. And most of the universe treats droids like nothing more then power tools or toasters.

    Most people don't even give them a second thought. They are just machinery. Infact if you look at the OT, only Luke really treated C-3PO and R2-D2 like they were worthy of being called friends. Would you remember the same toaster that was in your house over 18 years ago?

    Plus C-3PO did not have gold plating in Episode II. So his form is not instantly recognizable either. Add in the fact that he was Shmi's droid, not Owen's. And also Owen tells C-3PO to shut up in ANH, when he's babbling on. The droid's name probably didn't even register with him.

    Add in his intention of mind whiping them to Luke, proves that he doesn't consider droids worthy of much respect or acknowledgement. And if he did recognize them, it was fairly obvious they didn't seem to remeber him or Tatooine. So why alert Luke to the hidden past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JarJarBinks
    There's been some talk of it already, but here's the synopsis of what we've discussed. Protocal Droids are fairly commen in the Star Wars Universe. And most of the universe treats droids like power tools or toasters.

    Most people don't even give them a second thought. They are just machinery. Infact if you look at the OT, only Luke really treated C-3PO and R2-D2 like they were worthy of being called friends. Would you remember the same toaster that was in your house over 18 years ago?

    Plus C-3PO did not have gold plating in Episode II. So his form is not instantly recognizable either. He was Shmi's droid, not Owen's. And also Owen tells C-3PO to shut up in ANH, when he's babbling on. And his mention of mind whiping them to Luke, proves that he doesn't consider droids worthy of much respect or aknowledgement.

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    thanks that pretty much answers it
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    Also, 3PO doesn't even tell Owen his name. Maybe if 3PO had gotten the chance to say "I am C-3PO..." Owen would have remembered, but 3PO isn't given the chance to introduce himself.

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    I agree with Pendo's idea that Owen doesn't initially recognize the droids because they never introduced themselves.

    However, I do think he remembers them when Luke brings up the droids' mentioning of Obi-Wan. That's when Owen orders Luke to get their memories wiped at Anchorhead. He's probably trying to ensure that nothing gets brought out into the open.

    As for Obi-Wan failing to recognize them, I think he does. He frequently gives the droids looks that seem to indicate a past with them, such as when Luke's explaining why they're out in the Dune Sea and when R2 plays Leia's recording. He stays silent because he knows that Luke's not ready to know the truth about the droids and their relationship to Anakin.
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    Heck, according to the Essential Guide to Droids, there are of course many C-3PO model droids, just like there are, say, many '97 Mercury Sables...and every Threepio unit is apparently given the same prissy programming fit for a protocol droid.
    So I'm thinking, even if Owen truly and deeply knew and loved Threepio, when he saw him again years later, he would have dismissed it as an identical model, whether or not Threepio got to say his name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anakin2121
    Heck, according to the Essential Guide to Droids, there are of course many C-3PO model droids, just like there are, say, many '97 Mercury Sables...and every Threepio unit is apparently given the same prissy programming fit for a protocol droid.
    So I'm thinking, even if Owen truly and deeply knew and loved Threepio, when he saw him again years later, he would have dismissed it as an identical model, whether or not Threepio got to say his name.
    Good idea Anakin2121, but the only problem I see with that is that Anakin made 3PO ! I would go with your idea if 3PO's "maker" wasn't revealed, and it could have been persumed he was created in a factory with thousands of other 3POs. But because Anakin made him, it's harder to think of him as an identical model, but some personalised unique, one-of-a-kind droid .

    I know Anakin used old droid parts, and probably could have used the "C-3PO software" to program 3PO, but I still think that with 3PO being hand made and not factory built that he's not part of the 1000 identicle models of droids.

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    That is true, Pendo, and most droids are only used for a limited time, while according to EU C-3PO went 110 or so years before being picked up by Luke and the Larses. EU also tells us that Threepio went all those years without a memory wipe, and yet IIRC Lucas has said that R2 and 3PO would be getting memory wipes in this movie.

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    I'd like to also point out that thus far in the trilogy Obi Wan has not met C 3po.....and there is every reason to suspect he will not.....

  10. #10
    I agree with Sith lord and Overlord on their take on Obi Wan! In ANH Ben definitely gives the impression that he is trying to avoid letting luke know of his past with these droids! He even goes as far as to say, "I don't remember ever owning any droids". Sure, he didn't own them but he sure as hell knows of them! Comments like, "Now, lets find out who you are my little friend, and where you come from"(Which is actually the second time he refers to R2 as "friend"); are meant to steer luke away from an emotional path, that Bens knows would lead him to the dark side! Luke must discover the truths about his families' past himself, if he is ever going to grow and mature into a real Jedi Knight!

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