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    Are Midichlorines Sperm?

    I know this may sound like a stupid question but how else can a woman be impragnated. Why does Anakin have so many Midichlorines? Why are the people with the highest concentration of midichlorines male? Are those femlaes on the Council really females or just look like it or were they mutant females? Just some questions to pose. So what do you think are midichlorines sperm or what?
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    No, the sperm are cells and are about as big as any other cell. I don't think they mean sperm cells living in other cells.
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    I still think the shooting script leaves this whole issue vague enough to allow assumption that Qui-Gon is wrong about the midichlorians conceiving the child. The underlined part of the following passage is what was in the script but not the film:
    QUI-GON: Who was his father?

    SHMI: There was no father, that I know of... I carried him, I gave him birth... I can't explain what happened.
    Heck, even in the film, Qui-Gon is not claiming he's sure whether the midis did or didn't conceive the child:
    YODA: A vergence, you say?

    MACE WINDU: Located around a person?

    QUI-GON: A boy... his cells have the highest concentration of midi-chlorians I have seen in a life form. It is possible he was conceived by the midi-chlorians.
    My theory is pretty complicated about all this, intertwined with Qui-Gon being totally wrong about midis and other stuff, but even with all that out, Shmi was a slave since before Ani was born, it's entirely possible she's blocked out the memory of Ani's conception or it was blocked by an outside source or it got lost in the horrors of her life from that time among a sea of miserable things she was made to do as a slave.
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    JediTricks, you forget that Anakin is the "chosen one". He is the one that brings balance to the force in the end. If he is the chosen one, the prophesy must hold true that the chosen one will be conceived by midichlorians. If Anakin was not conceived by midichlorians then he is not the chosen one, which is not true.
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    We don't know he's the chosen one, the dialogue in the script from everybody but Qui-Gon only says he "may" be the chosen one.

    [font=Courier New]
    MACE WINDU:
    He is too old. There is already too much anger in him.

    QUI-GON: He is the chosen one...you must see it.

    YODA: Clouded, this boy's future is. Masked by his youth.
    [font=Courier New]
    OBI-WAN rushes over to QUI-GON, who is dying.

    OBI-WAN: Master! Master!

    QUI-GON: It is too late...It's...

    OBI-WAN: No!

    QUI-GON: Obi-Wan promise...promise me you'll train the boy...

    OBI-WAN: Yes, Master...

    QUI-GON: He is the chosen one...he will...bring balance...train him!
    [/font]

    [font=Courier New]YODA: Confer on you, the level of Jedi Knight the Council does. But agree on you taking this boy as your Padawan learner, I do not.
    OBI-WAN: Qui-Gon believed in him. I believe in Qui-Gon.

    YODA: The Chosen One the boy may be; nevertheless, grave danger I fear in his training.

    OBI-WAN: Master Yoda, I gave Qui-Gon my word. I will train Anakin. Without the approval of the Council if I must.

    YODA: Qui-Gon's defiance I sense in you. Need that, you do not. Agree, the Council does. Your apprentice, young Skywalker will be.
    [/font]
    [/font]
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    Funny how those that believe Luke is the chosen one have no script evidence. No one in Star Wars ever says, "The chosen one Luke may be." Because he is not the chosen one. Yoda never tells Luke about the prophesy or tells him he is the chosen one. Nor does Kenobi does ever tell Luke either of these. Anakin is the chosen one. Luke is never discussed in the movies as even a possibility of being the chosen one. And I am one of those people who believe that Anakin is the one.
    That being said, he was conceived my midis. Because if one is true, then the other is true. Oh! Luke was never conceived by midichlorians. He is a product of Anakin and Padme. Notice this line:

    Qui Gon: It is possible he was conceived by midichlorians.

    Mace: You refer to the prophesy of the one who will bring balance to the force.

    There is my evidence of why Luke can not possibly be the chosen one (deductive reasoning).
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    I didn't say anything about Luke. Maybe there is no chosen one, maybe the prophecy is just weapons-grade balonium. I think it's odd how some SW fans put all this faith into "the prophecy" and "the chosen one", yet have zero details on what either mean.


    Your deductive reasoning is suspect because it's taking the lines out of context of the scene, it actually goes:
    [font=Courier New]QUI-GON: I have encountered a vergence in the Force.[/font]

    [font=Courier New]YODA: A vergence, you say?[/font]

    [font=Courier New]MACE WINDU: Located around a person? [/font]

    [font=Courier New]QUI-GON: A boy... his cells have the highest concentration of midi-chlorians I have seen in a life form. It is possible he was conceived by the midi-chlorians.[/font]

    [font=Courier New]MACE WINDU: You're referring to the prophesy of the one who will bring balance to the Force...you believe it's this boy[/font]

    [font=Courier New]QUI-GON: I don't presume[/font]

    [font=Courier New]YODA: But you do! Revealed your opinion is. [/font]

    [font=Courier New]QUI-GON: I request the boy be tested.
    [/font]Qui-Gon doesn't mention the conception of the boy initially, he first mentions a vergence, when asked, he confirms it's around a person, then he says the kid has the highest concentration of midis, and only then does he offer an opinion about the boy possibly being conceived by the midis. It seems to me that the empirical data is what Mace is responding to when he mentions the prophecy, and Yoda even refers to Qui-Gon's comments as opinion rather than evidence.
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    Probably gonna have to see what happens in episode three. Might be a twist shedding more light on the whole thing ... I'd (like to) assume that it was all left sort of vague for a good reason.

    A prophecy is simply a prediction and I'd think that any prediction can be open to literal inaccuracies. In a manner of speaking, I suppose you could say that Anakin does bring balance to the force ... I guess. If getting rid of all Jedi and Sith except for Luke means balance, then I suppose that's it.

    As far as the Midi-conception thing goes ... perhaps that's not meant to be taken quite so literally.
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    OK. Now maybe someone else can post in the "Episode I: The Phantom Menace" area so that my name isn't forever parked under the word "sperm" on the index page.
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