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    The GIJoe Thread, take 2

    Okay, since the one I started yesterday got fried and is now deader than Quick-Kick, I'm starting a new thread to discuss the Joe comics: Marvel, Devil's Due, and the Reborn line.

    Both GIJoe #26 and Cobra Reborn (the first one-shot in the "Ultimate" style alternate continuity) hit shelves today. From the little I've seen of them, they look pretty wicked. I posted links to some info on them yesterday, and I'll try to track 'em down again.

    Here's a question I thought of after the original thread got lost: the new series kept the fact that Mindbender is a clone. But there are no Transformers, since Devil's Due doesn't have those rights. So, uh, how do they explain that?
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    GiJoe 26. Jerwa's 1st issue. He had to do the whole obligatory "New Writer. Let's recap and catch up the new readers" thing.

    I totally didn't see Cobra Reborn on the rack. Now I'll have to hunt it down. i hope they aren't sold out.

    I also picked up TF/GIJoe 5. haven't read it yet, but this series is wayyyyy better than the DevilsDue version.

    Since Snake-Eyes is a member of GiJoe and GiJoe has had intermittent contact with Transformers, and the Transformers (Gears mostly) have hung out with Spider-Man, and Spider-Man and the rest of the Marvel universe have from time to time crossed paths with the Dc Universe, and Batman has done a one shot with Spawn. Why oh why can't Snake-Eyes lay on a can of smack down on that tool of an undead anti-hero?

    Remember kids. Snake Eyes. Cool. Spawn. Lame-o.
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    I dont know if i am going to fellow the new reborn series. I guess image comics did not what to have their flag ship chacter get his butt kicked.

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    I'll buy it if I see it, but I'm not driving 2 hrs. to get a copy. The plot synopsis seemed fine, but I haven't peeped the art anywhere. Still need to fill in the few issues I missed of the regular series (Serpentor arc).

    In unrelated news, I'm not loved at my store. I've spent over a grand there so far, and they don't even know my name. I bought comics there less than 2 weeks ago and explained to the lackey that I'd be in in 2 weeks to clean up my file - they called yesterday saying they hadn't seen me in a month and that I needed to come in to clear some up. Jackasses.
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    Either Cobra Reborn was delayed or I read the ship date wrong. I asked the dude who runs my shop and told him he was breakin' my heart when he said it would be next week.

    I don't give a rat's you-know-what about Ultimate Marvel characters, but Ultimate TF and Joe I can't pass on. (Dreamwave's is the "Ultimate" TF. Marvel's version is still canon.)

    Jerwa did a much better job than I'd anticipated. Nice art throughout, and decent fill-in. Hopefully we'll see more "downtime" and character development than we did during Blaylock's run. Either this Scanner dude will be huge in his stories or fade away next issue. We'll see about him.

    So, just for trivia fun, who can name all the crossovers between Transformers and GIJoe during Marvel's run, as well as crossovers between either with the 616 Marvel Universe, as JJB refers to it?
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    Well, most of the "616" crossovers happened in the original 4 issue limited series. The most obvious being Spidey's duet with Gears in issue 3. But Nick Fury also showed up for a panel or two dismissing the "giant robot threat" in the pacific NW as hokum. Dazzler got some radio play. The Dinobots and Shockwave crashlanded in the Savage Land.

    Unconfirmed reports of Circuit Breaker showing up during the Secret Wars and JJJameson popping up in later issues of GIJoe have not been confirmed.

    There's such a complex backstory between Snake-Eyes, Cobra Commander, Stormshadow, Zartan etc in the current canon, i wonder how they'll strip all that down in the Reloaded series (ugh. what a lameass name...)
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    How do we know if they are even going to use the whole cc, storm shadow, snake eyes and zartan.

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    Well Crikey. I love Ninjas as much as the next heavy metal fan, but why in the hell did everyone have to be a Ninja or ninja trained in the old continuity??? Firefly just wouldn't have been badass enough if he was determined to be Russian ex member of Spetznaz? Come on. There's only so many wicked "flying V" style guitars to go around. Too many ninjas = too little time for each to wail.

    And besides, the old continuity is ninja-hokey for another reason: with 6 or 7 Ninjas rocking the house (lets count: Snake Eyes, Billy, Jinx, Firefly, Zartan - not really, but he mimicked one?????, Storm Shadow, the Cobra Ninjas....) no civilians could POSSIBLY be left alive in the entire midwestern US let alone the town of Springfield. They'd all be sliced and diced or skewered by throwing stars by now. Ninjas aren't a frigging dime a dozen.

    Im ready for a fresh kick at the can. I hope they use a fairly small, tight group of characters, and that they make it at least a little more like the first batch of 80's Joes. This has all the potential in the world to rock, and even more to suck.
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    You got most of those, EP. A few others I had in mind:

    The GIJoe/Transformers comic series and later crossover by Larry "I write Joes better than anyone, but don't have the hang of giant alien robots" Hama (with follow-up early issues of TF Gen 2) definitely cemented those two together.

    A Wolverine tank appears in TF #4, not standard military issue, methinks.

    As Stalker says the line in my sig, Snake Eyes is walking past a wall in NYC with the graffiti, "Decepticons rule!" or something like that (from the godawful debut of the Battlechargers).

    The NeoKnights were clearly mutants.

    Death's Head hung out with the TF's in the British series for quite some time.

    I can't confirm Circuit Breaker in Secret Wars, but JJJ appears in chapter three of the Snake Eyes Trilogy. Stalker, undercover in a newstand, informs him that "We don't sell that trash rag," referring to the Daily Bugle.
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    I got Cobra Reborn yesterday. Fairly straightforward introduction to all the main villains. Not a whole lot of "Ultimizing" of anyone. The story did make Cobra Commander a little more sympathetic, with his fight with the government and his wife running off with her lawyer. They should have him kick a dog or two, just to be on the safe side. They were kind of hit and miss on the recruiting side, too. Stormshadow? The twins? Baroness? Maybe I read it too fast but they all seemed to be on board from the start. Maybe theres a back story in there and it will all make sense a few issues down the road.

    looking forward to the GIJoe Reborn. Then we'll see if the regular series is worth it. It will also be hard to keep up with both series. Cash is becoming a problem...
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