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    Transformers: Energon & Beyond

    Our original Transformers thread has gone missing, apparently eaten by Unicron (or, more precisely, by the wonked up server which our host was SUPPOSED to have gotten us off of by now ) so we'll have to start anew. I personally feel very bad about this both as a staff member and as a forumite, I put a lot of time into posting in that thread and now it's completely disappeared. But anyway, nothing I can do about that now, maybe in the future once we're moved...


    So, the TF:Energon line is on sale at Target right now, it wasn't marked at my store but I picked up Scorponok for $19.99 instead of his normal $24.99 (which is $30 at TRU and $27 at WM); they also have basics for $5 instead of $7, deluxes for $8 instead of $10, and megas for $15 instead of $20 - I found it interesting that this is the 2nd significant sale Target's had on the Energon line in 6 months.

    Scorponok wasn't a figure I really wanted, but with the recent addition of Landmine, my poor Energon Decepticons were so badly outnumbered and outgunned that the lower priced Scorponok was a vital addition to the enemy ranks. I didn't realize how similar he and Landmine were in size even though they're not really in the same scale, though Scorponok is much heavier. As I was advised on the old thread, Scorp's US colors are less awful in person than in photos, it's still not as nice as the Japanese version, but it isn't so bad. Vehicle mode is ok, I wish the tail were more articulated so the crane was believable, and I don't really know what to do with the "claws", but the sculpting on this figure is undeniable with lots of details everywhere you look. The various clear yellow bits are pretty bland for me, especially those blades that can be moved out like 10 degrees, they should have been cooler as removable blades or blades that went further out or stowed completely or SOMETHING. The electronics are pretty annoying in vehicle and bot modes, mainly that tail noise that goes off all the time and it's funny, both Landmine and Scorponok feel like they need 1 more noise even though I don't like the idea of sounds at all... I guess 1 more noise would help justify the extra cost and addition of bulky electronics.

    Transformation is fairly simple but not terrible, there's enough to do to keep one busy even if it's all quite basic. Bot mode needs a mid-elbow rotation badly, the only way he can hold weapons without looking weird is to have his shoulders re-transformed into hoverjet mode. There's a lot to see and do in bot mode, but he's also kinda basic. The tail not stowing nicely, the head being too easy to accidentally de-transform, and him always leaning forward slightly in a normal stance are my chief negative complaints. Hoverjet mode is ok, but more of an afterthought than anything else. All in all, he's not too bad for $20, but I am glad that I didn't pay more as he's not super amazing.

    Gah, when is Wave 3 getting here? I'm going through withdrawl already.
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    NOOOO! My baby! He was only one and a half years old!


    Anywho. I've heard that King Atlus has finally started showing up. 'bout time.

    Speaking of sales, its a pretty damn good one. Deluxes were like, eight bucks? I read at tfw2005 that wal-mart is having one as well, with even lower prices. Crazy.

    The last TF I bought was Megatron.. waiting for Mirage.. where is he?

  3. #3
    Oh man... all of that gone. Geez.

    Hmmm. I was gonna break with my Trans-fast and get Scorponok, but now I'm not sure. Hmmm. Only $20 huh? Hmmm.
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    Yeah, I'm really very bummed about that thread disappearing, I'm really sorry about that to everybody who participated in it.

    Yeah, Dlxs are $8 at Target, I read the same thing about WM's even-lower sale prices and their new TF megasection going up at figures.com's boards, but WM is significantly further away from me and gas is around $2.20 a gallon here, so there was no way I was going to WM just to save another buck on Scorpo.

    King Atlas, huh? I've already forgotten what this Universe version looks like. IIRC, wasn't he white and red or something? I have MW Starscream so I'll almost certainly pass, but it's nice to see they're getting this out there.


    I just thought of something, what IS the nature of energon in the current series? Bots don't seem to run on it, and neither do their regular weapons, so what is this stuff?
    Darth Vader is becoming the Mickey Mouse of Star Wars.

    Kylo Ren - came from Space Brooklyn, although he moved to Space Williamsburg before it was trendy.

    The use of a lightsaber does not make one a Jedi, it is the ability to not use it.

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    Just saw your post PF, if you have the money, Scorp is not a bad $20 to spend. He bolsters the Decepticon ranks, he has some neat stuff going on, and of course has play gimmicks for the kiddies (though I have a feeling some parents will quickly remove those 3 button cells from this guy ), and his missiles are surprisingly well-hidden. If you've been on the fence like I was, consider this $20 sale an omen (or WM's $19 price if that's closer to you), and plus right now while it's early, you have really good chances of finding one at these prices.
    Darth Vader is becoming the Mickey Mouse of Star Wars.

    Kylo Ren - came from Space Brooklyn, although he moved to Space Williamsburg before it was trendy.

    The use of a lightsaber does not make one a Jedi, it is the ability to not use it.

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    Cool, i hope to find a few basic figures at either Walmart or Target on sale. Im more into Transformers that look like animals so a few of the Decepticons in the Energon line look appealing. But my brother really likes the Energon (no suprise, he did like Armada too) toys and with his birthday coming up soon i could pick him up a few cheap. Anybody gotten Optimus Prime? I have a hard time feeling that my brother needs this version of him, he doesnt impress me at all.
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  7. #7
    I am pretty sure one of the two other major contributors to the previous thread bought Fatimus right before Hasbro announced the mouth change.

    Kool-Aid, when you look for Battle Ravage figures, look for the ones with the more recent datestamps, they have been modified to hold their bot modes better. Can't go wrong with Divebomb though, he's the man!!!
    Darth Vader is becoming the Mickey Mouse of Star Wars.

    Kylo Ren - came from Space Brooklyn, although he moved to Space Williamsburg before it was trendy.

    The use of a lightsaber does not make one a Jedi, it is the ability to not use it.

  8. #8

    Re: Transformers thread, pt 2

    Well, I saw yesterday that Target was having a big sale on Energon figs that was on its last day, $7 for dlx, $5 for basics, $14 for Mega, $20 for Ultra, and $34 for Supreme or whatever it's called. Mega was the best deal IMO, and they had lots of Ironhides and Jetfires in stock, but after about 20 minutes of consideration, I came to the conclusion that the stuff on top of Ironhide's alt mode was too ugly for me to bother with, and passed. I also thought about getting another Prowl or Hot Shot, $3 off on dlx was really impressive, but I ended up passing there too because I'm low on funds and already have 'em both. Finally, I picked up an extra Skyblast because of the wing problems on mine, and this version is definitely much strong with the wing energon pieces, so that was money well-spent. Also, I saw a bunch of pointy-version Divebombs, that seemed pretty weird after all this time.

    Oh, and Hasbro sent me a prepaid label to return my busted Battle Ravage (they'll only exchange the WHOLE figure, not just the busted accessory), but no box or envelope or anything, so I'll have to figure out how to deal with that.


    So, let me ask you guys, which Energon figure do you think integrates its energon weapon into alt-mode the best? How about the worst? How well has the line overall integrated these accessories into the alt-modes?

    As for best, I think Rodimus's gun/jet engine w/flame missile go very well with his alt-mode. Skyblast's stuff is my second choice because it makes his alt-mode change from a jet into a starfighter.

    As for worst, I'm leaning towards Starscream's, it just doesn't look too nice, not balanced, and oversized on his nimble jet fighter form. Second choice would be Ravage, who doesn't have 'em integrated at all, they're just plugged onto his shoulders.

    As for the whole line, I dunno yet...
    Darth Vader is becoming the Mickey Mouse of Star Wars.

    Kylo Ren - came from Space Brooklyn, although he moved to Space Williamsburg before it was trendy.

    The use of a lightsaber does not make one a Jedi, it is the ability to not use it.

  9. #9

    Re: Transformers thread, pt 2

    Gentlemen... behold!

    Alternator Bluestreak in box

    TFU Blurr

    aaaand a redeco Landmine already ( who clearly is meant to mirror Armada Hoist like Landmine mirrored Smokescreen. )

    http://2005boards.com/showthread.php?t=42658

    Bluestreak looks damn good.

    Blurr I like. It's unusual for a Universe release to be so... hesitant with colors. He looks bright, but I suspect that is just the lighting.

    I like this Landmine. The pastel blue has got to go though. This shouldn't be available for awhile... Christmas maybe?
    Last edited by Adam; 04-07-2004 at 01:42 AM.

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    I realize that they love to re-use molds and make twice the money on them, but repainting the 20th Anniversary Optimus Prime and calling him Ultra Magnus is NOT cool.

    1) Needs the car carrier trailer
    2) The trailor needs to transform into the armor
    3) The head has to be Ultra Magnus' not a Prime repaint
    4) They'd have the opportunity to do an awesome transformation technique here if only they get creative and make the trailer permanently attached to his body and part of the transformation and not an add-on to it.

    If the car carrier could tow alternators, how cool would that be?

    Anyway, I'm also all for Magnus getting a realistic color scheme (in line with tradition) but use a darker blue instead of that turquoiz light blue, and if they make a white cab, make it silver-steel or "simulate it being dirty," to keep with the realism on the Alternator line.

    I'll keep my eyes open for Grimlock I guess. Still might skip this figure until I can get Wheeljack.

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